Top end carnage! How was this TS185 even able to run? Fuel tank and seat repair also.

Want to see how robust these engines are? Wait until you see how the top end looked when I opened it up and it was still able to run! I also dig into repairing the nasty fuel tank and seat. Its coming along now!

[@regnor166]

Your image quality is excellent even in close ups. Good choice of bikes, thanks for the videos.

[@Garage2Trail]

I appreciate the feedback! I’m just using my iPhone which has a good camera. Thanks for watching!

[@theburger_king]

these old bikes are so cool compared to whats being released now

[@paulbudford]

Amazing that it ran. But even more so no damage to the cylinder. Very lucky. 🤞

[@mflres43]

Thanks for making the Videos, I look forward to every bike you revive ❤

[@Garage2Trail]

Thank you for tuning in and I’m glad you are enjoying them!

[@cainbeeping8480]

Well that part of saving these old bikes. Good job brother.

[@Garage2Trail]

It’s addicting! Thank you 👍

[@hickokaviation2249]

Your videos make me want to find a project bike. 👍

[@Garage2Trail]

I recommend it! It’s easier than you’d think with a little patience. No special tools needed and bikes don’t take up too much room. Very gratifying when you get any life out of them.

[@TS50ER]

The TS185ER was still in production somewhere in South America the last time I checked. I have only seen the bikes in white, so blue plastics may not be available, but engine parts should easy to get.

[@Garage2Trail]

Good point, thank you!

[@andyshondaxlsrestorations4733]

Great video m8 I love Ugly it shows it added a life. M8

[@Garage2Trail]

Thanks Andy, I agree….the ugly shows character and originality. I don’t feel bad getting them muddy when they are ready to ride too lol

[@jeffferguson899]

love your videos, great work

[@Garage2Trail]

Thank you Jeff! I appreciate it

[@marsvenusplanet]

great build..lots of love

[@Garage2Trail]

Thanks!

[@Mac_Simiser]

You gonna get a new manifold, probably cracked? Carb rebuild... amazing that this bike still ran. Reminds me of my old 78 yz125. Don't know if that ever had an filter, let alone a clean one, transmission oil 😂 anyway, I like what you Re doing here,nice tank repair!

[@Garage2Trail]

I won’t need the manifold boot between the carb and cylinder but I did get the boot between the airbox and carb. Carb is clean. Did that in part one and it was pretty crusty. Thanks for watching and the feedback!

[@GoldenBoyGarage]

Wow that piston is toast

[@Veryfastslowcar66]

Coming along so nicely, i’ve had several bikes with piston damage and all of them had damaged the cylinder. Very lucky to be in spec. If possible you should definitely burn the exhaust and muffler out if possible as i’ve had the exact same exhausts one burnt out and one not weigh significantly more then the other, cut open a badly damaged ts pipe once and had easily 5-8mm of carbon build up throughout! Keep it up, absolutely brilliant videos with no shortcuts taken and everything done properly, very nice to see for once.

[@Garage2Trail]

Thanks! I’ll keep that in mind about the exhaust. I couldn’t believe there wasnt one scratch that my fingernail could grab…like you said…VERY lucky considering the metal that was bouncing around in there! Really appreciate the feedback too. Glad you are enjoying the vids!

[@Veryfastslowcar66]

I’m honestly someone thats suffered deeply from mental illness and seeing you put really thorough effort into these rough old nuggets (rough old nuggets are all i’ve ever chased lol) really helped me come back to seeing the beautiful side of giving old things new life and showing them love most people would never care to. It’s a labour of love and every challenge beaten is a new experience/skill learnt, and knowledge is power right? My first project bike was a 185er and since then I have had dozens of others from all the Jap makers. I currently have a 74 Kawi F11 250, 74 Suzi Tc185 and two early orange tank Yami Ag175 (Ag bikes based off a Ct175) all very difficult stuff to come across in Aus. Cant wait to see this one all cleaned up and the rest to come:)

[@donaldcameron8909]

Suzuki from this era made a DS-250 , we had no compression, head comes off and the piston edge was touched off on the exhaust side from a leaking base gasket, replaced everything that needed repairing and to this day the bike runs fine that was 17-yrs ago bikes are cool from this time and had the look that's appealing.

[@Garage2Trail]

Such robust engines. I agree, the lines and colors on these old bikes is what draws me to them.

[@bugsbigone]

Very cool from France

[@Garage2Trail]

Thank you!

[@brianbaird3]

What kinda happy little tree a birch tree an evergreen tree or an oak tree lol

[@Garage2Trail]

I was hoping someone would pick up on my Bob Ross reference! 😆

[@wattie1050]

Great to see it running ! And as you said god knows how 😮😁😁 coming along nicely , tank was a bit of a state but hopefully that's it leakproof and solid for a few years use 👍 previous owner must have had a wee stash of spares under seat at some point and all falling out the spare plug and spring 😁😁 getting there and great work as usual .👍

[@Garage2Trail]

Thanks Wattie! I’m just buttoning up the top end today so hopefully this weekend you’ll see it running much better and no leaky tank😀

[@wattie1050]

👍🤣

[@edwardkaminsky8142]

Great video. I had a TS 185. 75 I think. Maroon color I believe with a split shifter to achieve high or low gearing.

[@Garage2Trail]

Thank you! Those bikes that had the high/low range are cool. I hope to find one sometime to see how they feel when riding.

[@edwardkaminsky8142]

@Garage2Trail It didn't work when I owned the bike. I've been searching and apparently I believe the TC was split shift so more researching. When you started your bike briefly before the rebuild...the sound and smoke OMG. Reliving the past.

[@bananabrooks3836]

Stuff some rag in that crankcase mouth BEFORE you take the cyl off especially after seeing that piston! Looks like the top ring wore too much and the gap got so large the top ring got snagged in a port on the way down and took the chunks out of the piston above it, then as you say all the debris was exhausted after some rattling around the combustion chamber. VERY LUCKY with that cyl condition. It will be interesting to compare how this bike performs with the '72.

[@Garage2Trail]

Right on…after I slipped the piston out of the jug I said to myself I wish I had put rags in there when I saw that ring fall out! I can’t believe the condition on the cylinder. I got extremely lucky! That will be a cool comparison for sure. Thanks for the input!

[@laurencehastings7473]

Well that was certainly an eye-opener. I thought maybe rings or power valve but destroyed cylinder dome, one piston ring gone and the oil ring very questionable. As you so correctly said "I'm amazed that this thing even ran." Tank isn't too bad for a quick fix but having said that why waste time, effort and resources on a job you know you're not satisfied with? I can understand not wanting to source rare, expensive parts until you're convinced that everything is really okay but you could have just slapped on a plastic tank or a bottle in the interim period. The time, effort and resources invested in a good tank repair would be rewarded either way. As I mentioned earlier these bikes are rare as rocking horse pooh so there is a market for good spare parts and they're expensive.

[@Garage2Trail]

The biggest thing with the tank was price…it cost me less than $20 for a petcock and JB weld. Had the paint on hand. There is a good tank on eBay for $300. Rest of the bike isn’t perfect so they choice was easy. Final product isn’t much worse than a lot of eBay tanks that are not perfect either but are all over $100. Main goal with most of my stuff is getting it running and riding and as close to original as possible for the least amount of money. I like that they aren’t perfect as well because I don’t feel so bad getting it all muddy when I’m done and want to ride them lol

[@laurencehastings7473]

@@Garage2TrailDon't get me wrong, I agree . What prompted my comment was the impression I got from your dialogue that you weren't satisfied with the quality of the repair you made.

[@Garage2Trail]

@@laurencehastings7473 oh I gotcha…I’m just being overly self critical of myself lol.

[@porceder]

Tank repair looked good. You can always add a skim coat of Bondo or filler later & pull the dent. If you have pin hole leaks, gas tank sealer for Stoddard Porsche or Bill Hirsch work really well, better than Por15 sealer. I have had long-term success on 3 VW tanks with those sealers. No future rust inside rust on the coated tanks. Agree that we don't feel as guilty getting mud on bikes when they aren't perfect to start with. Ride on.

[@theriderdtm8650]

Lucky Son of Gun ✅

[@WFSDNO]

That's not a broken piston... that is backwoods porting!! :)

[@Garage2Trail]

😆

[@upchuckchops]

Where do you get your fuel IV bags? I found some on Amazon, but not sure about them.

[@Garage2Trail]

Hey Chuck! I got mine off Amazon. Works good.

[@upchuckchops]

@@Garage2Trail Thanks! Good video. I can't believe that thing ran either. the piston wow! Have a good one.

[@Garage2Trail]

@upchuckchops thanks man, I was baffled when I opened that up lol

[@alphonsocruz6948]

Got the same exact one i don’t know if I can adjust my clutch it uses the same gear actuator but do you know how to adjust if we can for this type of motor

[@Garage2Trail]

I actually haven’t even tried yet lol…I want to get it running good first but I’ll be tackling that in the next video I’m sure. It’s adjusted on the right side under the cover. I’ve got a new cable coming for mine so I’ll know soon.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

You adjust the engagement angle of the bottom lever. And have correct amount of freeplay.

[@agee8322]

Best to check the 2t oil pump output - or think about using just premix.

[@Garage2Trail]

For sure..I’ll be making sure it’s adjusted correctly but it is pumping. I can’t use straight premix because these Suzukis have a line from the pump that is solely for lubricating the crank bearing along with one for the piston/rings.

[@agee8322]

But doesnt a normal premix 2t get lube to the crank via the premix?

[@Garage2Trail]

@@agee8322 the rod bearings would be ok but the left side crank bearing I believe needs that line.

[@agee8322]

So it does! Something on thumper talk about it. One person did a complete delete and it goosed the left bearing and someone else kept line to the bottom end only and used premix ........ that seems a bit nuts - two lots of 2t oil to think about then. 2t oils - like the motorex one - are good for the more recent bikes, so a decent injection oil would be much better for your pump than the stuff from when the bike was new :-)

[@Veryfastslowcar66]

You can be a crazy man and drill out the crankcase and do a few little things to make them (probably) run ok on premix but at that point just get a Pe bike instead. When properly maintained with good oil these bikes will last a stupid amount of time without needing any sort of engine work.

[@tbounds4812]

wow i just got a ts185 today and this video was only posted a couple days ago!

[@Garage2Trail]

Awesome! What year is yours and what kind of shape is it in?

[@tbounds4812]

@@Garage2Trail its a 1982 and its in rough shape but a bit better than yours but the best part is i got it for free!

[@Garage2Trail]

@@tbounds4812 you can’t beat free! 👍

[@marcnissen578]

My ts185 had two spark plugs in the head did the 250 have that also on the older ones mine was a 73 model and I really wish I had it back I rode the living crap out of it and I couldn’t kill that engine for nothing , it ran like a streak shit , to me the ts,rm were the best bikes they ever made

[@Garage2Trail]

Yeah my ‘72 has two spark plug holes as well as my DT250. Some guys run a decompression lever and some put an extra plug in just in case the other one fouls out

[@marcnissen578]

@@Garage2Trail yea that extra spark plug saved my ass a few times

[@lawerncemiller6557]

Your fooling yourself if you don't bore it over size with new piston

[@Garage2Trail]

It’s still well within spec

[@lawerncemiller6557]

@@Garage2Trail the top edge of the piston was broke because the top ring caught in the ports in the cylinder that happened because the fit between the piston an cylinder was to loose I've had this same happen with 2 stroke engines , it will rattle an won't last long if you put it together with a stock piston I'm sure. Been there done that

[@Garage2Trail]

@lawerncemiller6557 I appreciate the heads up! This is why I like when people chime in…I learn something new with every bike. I’ll size up the tolerance again with the new piston and ring gap after I hone the cylinder out to be sure. Thank you! 👍

[@truthboomertruthbomber5125]

The problem you have is your measuring tools and skill level. The ends of snap gauges are rounded. You have to be certain to be on the highest part of the radius or you measurements will be smaller than the actual size. - Also, calipers are not accurate enough for measuring the very fine clearances involved. You need micrometers.

[@porceder]

Usually a couple of $ to get it measured at a machine shop, so you have peace of mind knowing it doesn't need a rebore & oversize.