Top Secret Laddergame Banger

Hello KZbin, the other day i noticed a lenghty Ladder Clash between the 2 European Superstars. Since I got very interested in seeing what happened in the game itself, i asked for the replay and figured this might be of interest for you guys aswell!
I hope you enjoy :)
#Serral #Clem #LamboSC2

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

That ililili guy seems to be quite good, we should pay attention to him in the future

[@kiratt77]

well he lost badly, it is very unlikely that he ever win a word championship or anything....

[@demonkoryu]

I'm really not sure what he excels at@@kiratt77

[@danielbn317]

You are amzing casting!!

[@ryanmcom]

Love this content and love your casts Lambo. I came back after being away from the game for awhile and any harambo cast has been must watch for me since I did. Literally watched every C stream game you guys did for Katowice. Yall truly bring something special with the analytical style of commentating that I don't think other casters can match (tho I'm a big pig fan too). Keep it up and know that you are appreciated!

[@princess_love9929]

This was very cool, I love seeing an epic lategame sprinkled in now and then. Especially when it's so close.

[@bigprank3964]

Thank you for this great cast, the game was lovely and the commentary, observing and insights were perfect imo I'll watch every single one of these types of casts See you "next year" :D @53:53

[@mattanonysaurousrex]

Serral fan boy here. The way Serral moved his ground army and left it for a good portion of the game makes it look like to me that he just wanted to practice his broodlord micro :)

[@TheStracky]

A great match, from great players, with a caster that has the knowledge to explain the situations those players find themselves in. What's not to love! You asked us if we want more content like this. Yes we do!

[@hiramrichmond3341]

Awesome content. I will like subscribe comment share all your videos like this! Love love love the best ladder games that no one else has casted like this.

[@124horst]

wow this was pure starcraft theory in action. I think I learned a lot from this!

[@felipelagos1292]

Wonderfull cast !! Thx

[@AudreyandmeAu]

love when you upload

[@gulash86]

you're truly a top tier caster. You and harstem by far have the best casts nowadays. Really love it when pro players such as yourself take the time to properly explain the intricacies of a matchup like you do. Hats off to you man. big props.

[@RD-uk6wt]

u mean the top talker for the will of talking? is starcraft really that boring for watchers that "castesr" need a nonstop float of talk without any breaks?

[@mikeiscoo2]

No winter is the best caster by far lol

[@Leeway4434]

banger cast of a banger game. As a zerg player, I like your casting style it is educational for me

[@Umiale]

Very nice job not spoiling the ending, I had no idea who was going to win from your casting I also would definitely have slipped up and gave it away if it was me lol also good casting brother 10/10 content

[@Uksidorgje]

Good video, great analysis! Please keep asking your friends for replays and cast them,! :) 43:17 you rarely see the hour marker plopping up in the timer above the minimap with clem

[@threee1298]

nice, love it, would love more of it

[@dfsdsfsdfsadfdsfa223]

This is great!! I love the analysis. Maybe a maxpax vs serral next?

[@troyhawkins8264]

Great analysis. A few questions or points for discussion: You, Serral and Reynor have been mixing in 20 overlord as in this game. Is this more optimal if we’re planning on playing speed before 3rd hatch rather than 27 overlord? I’m assuming it’s also to do with a possible Scv block on the third too? Do you think Serral should have committed to killing a base at 85 drones? It seems like massing army at that drone count should be about aggression. If the T assumes a defensive posture and takes a fifth, the response in this game is to take 8 bases including some of the T’s: if this posture is adopted is the correct play to drone to 95 to mine out the bases faster? Having a larger army seems less optimal if the Terran isn’t pushing, so was part of the problem this game not identifying that defensive posture earlier and droning harder? I imagine you could drop that ten supply of srmy for more drones so long as you engage on creep?

[@troyhawkins8264]

Additionally, if Serral had given up the left at the timing you suggested and rotated to push the right side with broodlords, would it have been a good play to push the spores onto the high ground in front of the Terran fourth? I wonder whether you could defend the middle right base and prevent the liberator/ghost/tank push that happened in this game that way.

[@LamboSC2]

Going for the 20 Overlord is better specifically vs 2 rax reaper or a blocked 3rd hatch. If you want to go speed in a normal game, going for 27 overlord 28 hatch is still more efficient theoretically, but vs 2 rax reaper you'd lose that hatchery. For your second row of questions, as long as you mine the exposed bases with optimal saturation, a higher dronecount is not necessarily better. A higher army supply can let you take more effective trades and hold the Terran bases for longer, that's also why we transfer drones from our safe bases over. Usually Terrans will try to splitpush vs a Zerg trying to take exposed bases on both sides, so an extra 10-15 armysupply can be very usefull. I think in this game in particular a higher drone count initially would've been better, but it can be difficult to know how quick and commited a Terran will try to attack said bases, so I don't fault him for keeping a more competitive army supply.

[@JosepPi]

Lambo comin' clutch with those replays

[@kostyantynhoncharov493]

More of these plz :)

[@MrBulya]

Great video

[@ceropowa8099]

"I'm not going to spoil it for how long" me scrolled down the video for how long 😂jk

[@ashleyalexander7388]

Jesus, only a god can kill another god

[@interarma8044]

Great analysis.

[@mydeskfriend]

These guys are machines... 45mn in game and they are still doing out this world micro at 300+ APM... this is nuts

[@Zoocsgo]

@lambosc2 In 2018ish terrans used wall in with 3rd cc at natural then it changed to in base is it time to return to making it at natural to wall in so Serral and Reynor can't constantly get scv vs factory openings? Or is the knowledge of fast cc or not worth 3/4 worker dying?

[@LamboSC2]

You always put the 3rd cc in the natural wall if you go for 2 cc openers with a late 3rd base. If you go for quick 3cc you never make the cc in the natural, it has been this way for as long as i can remember. I believe 2cc openers were just more standard back then, which is probably why you remember them making the 3rd in the wall.

[@Zoocsgo]

@@LamboSC2 it was when 2 1 1 was popular with fast 2 medivacs and 16 marine you'd move out and drop cc in your wall that might have been earlier than 2018 tbh.

[@checkmatenate]

So this is how Terran beats zerg. Turtle Terran

[@blessyou3999]

Thanks for the cast and the analysis of the game. From a casual point of view and experience, TvZ late game is just boring because it is very one-sided. it looks and feels like zerg has no tools.

[@flameone4705]

This felt like who could throw the game harder.

[@Uksidorgje]

Will we hear your take on the new patch?

[@AndrewSternkern]

Thanks for covering the match. One tiny request, could You turn up volume on the game sounds?

[@LamboSC2]

Yes, I will try to adjust the sound levels for the next one :)

[@georgeclark2868]

I know Serral is making all this stuff look amazing but what do you think of Broodlords and Zerg late game Lambo? For a lowly diamond Broods are very hard to use now against Thors and I'm finding it very difficult to beat them with infestors or vipers when Thors supplemented by Vikings or something to keep the Infestors back...what would you suggest?

[@LamboSC2]

I believe at a level below top GM it is best to use Broodlords only as a surprise switch type of unit against Terran. If your opponent has too many tanks and no thors, you can try to hide 8-12 broodlords, attack with them and trade them out without intending to make them again afterwards. So i suggest to play your normal ground based army composition and use broodlords as a one time punch when your opponent is ill-prepared.

[@user-qy3pk5no2h]

Good video. Next time you do this remember to set HP bar to "damaged"

[@LamboSC2]

Will do 🫡

[@Chris-si9in]

14:48 I always send a pack of lings to patrol all drop pathways but always miss it on the mini map smh

[@rivershy]

I want to see Serral's reaction to this video. Lambo coaching Serral?

[@rustytaco8412]

I love your casting, but bro, you have got to allow the games audio to be played. We want to hear the units making sounds and attacking. It's part of the experience. Only hearing the audio from your voice is actually really boring. If you mix in some Ambient sound from the game, it would really increase your level of casting experience.

[@LamboSC2]

I had the sounds on, they were just really loud for me and not on the recording. That is because i play with really loud sounds and have them lowered in OBS so they are not as distracting if i play, however they were too loud and distracting for me during the cast so i lowered them. I'll try to remember boosting them up on obs next time i cast.

[@xela6349]

Lambo, if you mine a base that "originally" belonged to your opponent, your opponent needs to do 36k better for one base alone if we assume 18k minerals on one, since you gained 18k while he lost 18k.

[@Buttersman]

Yeah not enough likes 😂 thanks for the upload lambo.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

I couldnt even hear the game at the start and then you lowered the volume again. Please do some sound balancing.

[@christianhornlimann3079]

lambo casting? aliv gmae

[@whynow4306]

Havent finished watching bu: In the mid game why Clem just did not push with the 1 ball army? Instead seperating the armies into smaller groups. Positioning vs roach ravenger? If he pushed It would be probably over. Respecting ling run-bys? Base trade would go in T favour anyways

[@LamboSC2]

He tried for one big push but lost too many tanks while dealing with the big runbies from serral. I think Serral outplayed him for a bit there to stay alive with an inferior army.

[@nickcole6682]

Bagged the first like and comment! It's Lambo time

[@guyperson6527]

i like how despite all the balance changes the best players still win the big tournaments

[@SN.LurkinG]

Hey Lambo, just fyi I was trying to find this video of yours by searching "Clem vs Serral Lambo" and it wasn't even showing up XD. You need to be using that big brain of yours on these video titles man haha

[@LamboSC2]

I infact used their names on my initial Title, and the video performed significantly worse than it does with the new title. So my brain did a fine job i believe :D

[@SN.LurkinG]

@@LamboSC2 Wow that’s crazy! KZbin algorithm are truly a mystery

[@tyrellwreleck4226]

170 supply of broodlords, corruptors and infestors lost to ghosts and vikings. This is ridiculous. They nerfed broodlord range and fungal range but did nothing against ghosts. I'm not complaining 'cause most ladder matches doesn't reach endgame. But man, this game is literally joke to watch.

[@realNaniByte]

my favorite part is when lambo showed up on the screen and said "it's lambo time" and lamboed all over the non believers (terran players); will watch later

[@abyrvalg_]

Broodlords are just useless. Damage output is just too low. They are OK only when there are no "Vikings" in the air. Compare the effectiveness of corruptors to broodlords in this game. Corruptor - infestor - ultra - lingbane seems like the answer in the late game. Or even corruptor-queen. Am I wrong here?

[@largemargeog1023]

This match makes Terran seem OP. Feel like there was so little Serral could do towards the endgame. (I’m at 44 minutes but I just don’t see what Serral could reasonably do.)

[@shadowpriest2574]

I disagree, its the other way around , Zerg had more than half the map by the 17 minute mark and then decided to play it defensively...for some reason, despite the fact that playing it offensively is 100% in his favour and he was not gonna trade effectively anyway. The best move would have been to just keep attacking. Delaying Clem would have been in his favour yet he failed to do that . In effect, the reality is that Zerg autowins any such scenarios if they don't stop attacking, but Serral just stopped attacking. In his second match at Katowice against Maru(the one that seemed most likely for Maru to stand a chance), he never stopped attacking and what do you know.... he won.

[@mikeiscoo2]

@@shadowpriest2574tell me you’re a silver player without telling me you’re a silver player.. I love how you say Zerg is OP and not Terran when the win condition is to out mine 4 extra bases than the Terran and your army is so much weaker than terrans that trading 20k minerals behind is considered normal. Ghost/LIB Beats everything teehee… unlimited scan with no counter play to that vision, unless you feel like diving super backline bases against lib ghost 😂 ghost over here one shoting every unit Zerg has “balanced” and they can go invisible. Lib’s 1-2 shot everything and have no the same range as siege tanks hehehehe

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

​@@mikeiscoo2You really gonna sit there and say that Terran OP despite Serral just wiping out Terran in Kato? Really? The only race that can remax DURING a fight is Zerg

[@mikeiscoo2]

@@malekiththeeternityking5433 and Zerg gets nerfed again by nerfing infesters because Terran players are too shit to just make a fucking raven so they cry until Zerg gets nerfed more.. even harstem and winter and pig think Zerg is the weakest race. You have one players who is a total outlier and because of him you think a race is op. You are the definition of stupidity.. if serral played Terran and was as good at Terran as he is at Zerg he would never lose a match ever again. There would be no contest at tournaments.. nerf scans for Terran, change infestors back, reduce snipe damage by ghosts to half.. and reduce liberator range by 2 and reduce damage by 2 reduce snipe range by 2 as well.

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

​@@mikeiscoo2Banes A move win Truly, what game mastery it is to just Shift spam Z, and a move banes. Truly the pinnacle of skill, I love how you first had to disrespect the guy for no reason at all

[@AhOhITzXray]

That was the worst game I’ve seen in a while…

[@Waradmiral238]

Top tvz is maru vs serral not clem