TOP % SWF BREAK DEAD BY DAYLIGHT. PROVE ME WRONG (without insults lol)

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[@michealmyerstier3350]

“On a game balanced around people who can’t look behind them.” Lmao so true

[@kaikemattos2420]

Why?

[@professionalhater2211]

@@kaikemattos2420 new survivor usually dont look behind them

[@Syzio_Bruh]

FACTS

[@TenThySelf]

@@professionalhater2211 definitely looking behind you is the most important thing in chase. Killers love to cut you off

[@niterush361]

Yep.

[@CommanderBlaze66]

2 kills, 2 escapes. Exactly what the devs want... Depip.

[@Trigger__Happy]

*Entity displeased* ok guess I should have just played better against the tournament skill level swf.

[@Eli_PC137]

He even got like 22k BP, really messed up that its a depip.

[@luv2ruck770]

He only got 2 kills cause the survivors stopped trying at the end

[@luv2ruck770]

They could've saved one of them from cage. And that other survivor could've ran to the other 99'd exit gate

[@CommanderBlaze66]

@@luv2ruck770 Yes. Thats part of the point, 2 kills and 2 escapes is NOT what killers/the game should be balanced for because it doesn't tell the story of what happened in the match properly just as Tru3 said.

[@CrimsonPoseidon]

I can’t be mad at swf just for playing it’s just the clicky teabag ego bullshit most of them do. It’s crazy that people don’t recognise they play the game on easy mode whilst they literally type EZ EZ after every game.

[@ahkilewashington8270]

Suvivor isn't always easy mode just depends on if your teammates are good or not

[@TheKaiserSiege]

@@ahkilewashington8270 That's why he mentioned "swf". Swf's and solo are two completely different universe's. A decent swf mimicks that of a good/great solo squad. That alone is telling enough.

[@justmonika2345]

The funny thing is people who play like this are literally shooting themselves in the foot. These sorts of survivors are stressful to go against and the anxiety of going against these asshole teams will cause some to stop playing which increases queue times. Whenever I would get a team like this in my games I noticed that I would play meaner in my next few matches. (Slugging, camping, tunneling more often just because I feel like I need to let off some steam and not empathize with others for a while)

[@Trigger__Happy]

@@justmonika2345 So true, even if that next team isn’t doing anything to deserve it and are playing like pepegas. I feel like often the reason why we get “toxic” killers is because they were likely dealing with a toxic tbagging clicky clicky swf in a previous match.

[@CheeseDBD]

@@Trigger__Happy ya it's a vicious cycle, sometimes in solo que I'll get really bad teamates but then the killer gets triggered and hits on hook, force bleed out for no reason, sends messages after the game saying ez(console). Then I'm like fuck it I'm just going to play swf and shit on killers. This games tough to keep your composure but I'm working on just trying to have fun as both killer and survivor.

[@angjiapheng]

This match happens without a key involved. The part that pisses me off is the players with high skills and coordination decide to be rude. These people should be playing with toxic killers mains, so that they can annoy each other and leave us a clean community

[@scottelliot8240]

Yea it's be cool if there was some system like the one in GTA online where if you are consistently "toxic" then you get put into lobby's with others the same

[@flashtaeo]

Naw those players are low god tier players. If true used wraith he'd prolly 4k or 3k. Hit and run will work on these type of players. These players would lose in tourneys.

[@thisguyisgreat1]

Hopefully when mmr kicks in they'll only go against crazy nurse mains and spirits so that'll be funny

[@flurry7439]

How is a key rude? Its Part of the game. Rude is when people are unfriendly in postgame chat

[@flashtaeo]

@@thisguyisgreat1 ikr bro . I'm a survivor main but i hate cocky ego freaks.

[@rabbitman7736]

Where I'm from, there are certain times of day where killer queues are incredibly short but you get matched against extremely good players nearly every match. I struggled to rank up as killer for so long due to not realizing if I played killer 4 hours earlier, I'd wait a little longer for a queue, but I'd get matched with players about the same rank as me much more consistently, and have been pipping up way more often as a result.

[@Rumson21Trib]

I experienced exactly the same on South East Asian servers.

[@q2boydlegend]

yeah as a person playing on se asian servers i can confirm

[@katie.met1]

Probably because in the morning, solo queue is more common and more people play killer so killer queue times are longer. Then in the evening the majority of people you face will be SWFS because it’s the end of the day and people play games together. It’s also why queue times are quicker in the evening for killer.

[@updatedotexe]

@@katie.met1 Good analysis.

[@TrU3Ta1ent]

I had a 4 gen and because of their coordination it didn't matter. They pushed around me, and got the gens so efficiently. But let's pretend you all could do better and live in ignorance. Did I make some mistakes? Sure we all do, but hard to read movement and efficient gens isn't exactly easy to beat if anything these are the teams that end win streaks...so again prove me wrong without having to insult a player who most likely is a lot better then you at killer and survivor as I have played for fuck loads of hours. I know people get all emotional when you talk about how swf creates a platform to break the game, but can you really deny what you are seeing? PS You guys should be grateful I upload this shit, 99.9% of content creators dont. Couldn't care less about losing to a impossible to win team via swf.

[@johnbuchanan7676]

True you should know by now how ignorant people are. I got a guy who thinks you should have gone across the map thinking they wouldn’t just communicate to get behind you and do one of the other gens

[@TrU3Ta1ent]

I had a 4 gen (strongest gen position in game) Also seen people exaggerate the first chase time. She was downed in 1 min. But yeah talk about the obvious fact swf can break the game people get all emotional. O guess they see it and it scares them how obvious it is?

[@qoughitup]

@@TrU3Ta1ent what do you think should or could be done to change the Gen efficiency of swf teams?

[@johnbuchanan7676]

@@TrU3Ta1ent just keep up the good work. I’ve only played this game about a year and I try to model my gameplay after yours. I do play some swf but tbh only for the fun of playing with my friends, I do agree it’s broken except most of them aren’t very good. I also grind solo killer and survivor rank 1. Rams cowboys my name on twitch I catch streams when I can. You got me on that windows perk and now I can’t play without it. Just ignore the haters

[@hamzashoaib3159]

I def agree with u. The only people who disagree are the surv-mains who bully killers and ignores everything that does not affect them. You will most likely see ignorant people now saying how you "cry" about swf, but in the reality you speak 100% facts about the game. When did speaking facts become "crying"? In todays society, in some cases when u speak facts u will be seen as the "bad guy". Such a f****d up society today, anyways keep up the good content :D

[@datsuarcade7617]

pyramid kill 2 against torunament swf devs: NERF TRIGGERED

[@CheeseDBD]

He's a top tier killer, not surprising you can kill good players with him especially with his tunneling potential.

[@jamesgarter9340]

@@TheAlburp but people say spirit is annoying but look at this tho😂

[@CheeseDBD]

@@TheAlburp ya I'm pretty sure most people including some of the top killer main streamers would disagree with you. Not saying Executioner is the best killer in the game but he's definitely top tier alongside Blight.

[@CheeseDBD]

@@TheAlburp I never said pyramid head was better than Nurse or spirit. I said he's top tier as in he is a killer that can compete with good players. What are you getting so tilted for lol?

[@CheeseDBD]

@@TheAlburp I never mentioned Oni don't know where you got that from. Also if you don't think Blight is a top tier killer then prayers, don't know what to tell you.

[@chengchiu957]

The point is there is no fun playing against good players because they finish generators fast and the game ends quickly. The maps are varied so are builds but the nature of generators is definitely too fast. There is also the point of 4v1, the tricky bit is you can't have killer bullied but you can't have him bully to much either. The scales right now are either tilting one side or another, so in essence, doesn't feel balanced.

[@djekdozovitch3679]

The builds are varied? So, 4 DS Unbreakable Soul Guard DH. Every game. Is it fine?

[@soleo2783]

@@djekdozovitch3679 Unbreakable dh is def too common, but i haven't seen soul guard for very long time. And ds is fine after the nerf

[@djekdozovitch3679]

@@soleo2783 its fine but not in combo when you literally are invulnerable whatever you do for like 40 seconds cause survivors can get healed and still have DS.

[@soleo2783]

@@djekdozovitch3679 I mean, just leave them until you see them close to a gen or smth, chances are, they won't stand around doing nothing just to ds you.

[@JM-bb8iz]

@@djekdozovitch3679 if you STILL get hit with ds you most defintley deserve don’t know what your talking about 😂 they literally can’t do anything with out losing it sooooo yea

[@spencerbowden2979]

Makes one wrong read after a survivor uses dead hard to fix a looping mistake = loses two gens.

[@BradJonesGoKarting]

They smash out all gens in less than 5 minutes with ruin up for over half of that time. The people being chased had good mind games with their movement, for example, deadharding to the TL window vault and faking it. Not many survivors would do this here, maybe a few out of 100 players would do this in the heat of the moment. He may have just got unlucky by taking 2 chases with the stronger runners and the other 2 were just smashing gens together. Either way, nobody really benefits from a game that ends so fast.

[@JackAssSquirrel]

dbd has pushed itself this way we can't blame the survivors for this. if they don't smash the gens then the killer will get the upper hand and put on enough pressure to where the survivors can't finish the gens and eventually die. it's boring for both sides but realistically, at top level you kinda have to play like this to win. look how much pressure tru3 put on them towards the end. if that had happened at 2 gens, he definitely could have slugged for the 4k, which would also result in a 4 minute match (and this is often the case if you look at rank 1 killers). if you want to blame anyone, blame the devs.

[@billyjoelbeans]

Okay, but suffo pit is horribly designed, he had 0 pressure on anyone on gens for the first 3 minutes, completely ridiculous map

[@johnbuchanan7676]

@@JackAssSquirrel but you saying he would slug for the 4K is exactly the point. If they balanced this game more around hooks and slowed gen speeds then killers wouldn’t feel like they had to slug.

[@lucidlaughlin3035]

You can do all 5 gens and open the gates in sub 3 minutes if the killer doesn't achieve pressure. This team was way slower than a lot of what I see.

[@BradJonesGoKarting]

@@lucidlaughlin3035 that's just stupid fast though. Like nobody will benefit from the game, they'd make minimum bloodpoints with scores and maybe even depip

[@tunafishpond2445]

Absolutely love it when he plays these players! This is what I subscribe for. Nice work!

[@IndranilRC]

I know I might get hate for this. But if you are up against a very strong and formidable swf team, it's always good to focus on a single survivor at first. Some might call it tunneling. However, in that way you get a more fair chance at winning. Although, it doesn't necessarily mean you have to facecamp. This game always gives an edge to the survivors specially when you are playing in a usual way. So you need to use certain strategies to make the game much less frustrating for killer mains.

[@9d7fish]

In my opinion you shouldn’t have to do that if the game was balanced but it’s favored as we know so until that changes then yah kind of have to sometimes.

[@chaosflash912]

@@9d7fish Pyramid Head is the best killer for getting away with that imo - if you torment the survivor and want to avoid DS, the most efficient way to deal with them (while getting the most hook states as possible) is hook -> gulag -> hook.

[@roslishirlinshoots5846]

I totally agree.....the devs are playing against each other when they test the game.....and they are average at it.

[@rangerfc1307]

@@9d7fish You are correct about the game being unbalanced and favoured towards a particular side but it is valid when it is strong (experienced) 4-man SWF vs Killer. So many players out there play solo queue or 2/3 man SWF so when it comes to those matches, going up against a strong (experienced) killer will probably make the game favourable towards the killer. My point is, the devs have to take all scenarios into consideration and try to come up with a situation that will be balanced in 'most' of the cases. So yes, it is unbalanced at the moment but very hard to balance, that's what I think.

[@qoughitup]

You’re wrong and that was tru3s problem here. He spent the first 90 seconds or something chasing one guy and then, by that point, games over. These guys are good survivors but you can’t complain about losing when you’re not spreading pressure and harassing multiple survivors.

[@juanc.torres3132]

My problem with the game is that as rank 1 survivor I get matched with 3 rank 18/19 (for real) with no perks that only crouch in a corner vs a rank 1 killer. And when I play my killer, I get rank 1s as soon as I turn purple

[@Rgak05]

I can't relate to this more.

[@JackJester21]

And now to scroll through and read all the salty comments about how killer is actually OP.

[@updatedotexe]

There are none such comments, are you okay?

[@UMCorian]

It's been awhile since I played. I regressed back to Rank 20. Fired up my game - went against 4 purples. MMR has got to be on.

[@Rumson21Trib]

I think that's just a lack of killers playing so they fill you in unfortunately

[@Rumson21Trib]

Also, I actually screen captured games a few months ago when I was yellow and I was going up against red ranks more often than not. I sent an email to BVHR, the reply: We're sorry that the game isn't living up to your standards. 😐

[@UMCorian]

@@Rumson21Trib lol

[@thirsty4souls]

@@Rumson21Trib Wtf they actually replied with that? Bunch of clowns lmao

[@MrPotato-]

@@thirsty4souls I reported an actual speed hacker, sent a link to video proof, got back an automated response saying it’ll be looked into. 1 week later I face him again. Useless devs

[@lyndetuvasa]

Welp this is what high MMR will be.

[@leaha2357]

Yep, I think thats why its been like 9 months since MMR was announced and it is still nowhere to be seen, they are afraid of what it will show

[@leaha2357]

@@milesbennettdyson555 You dont get it do you, the main problem isnt going against good players or getting everyone killed, the problem is playing a game where the opposition has an unfair advantage you can never get, then you have to deal with the toxicity of those players who think they are gods, they go out of their way to annoy you for the hell of it, and then the game is over in minutes, is unfun and you question why you bothered queuing just for that terrible experience. Maybe if the devs balanced the game so it wasnt over so quick and people could be decent human beings, then there wouldnt be an issue and we could all enjoy the game, but sadly the devs are incompetent, and people are ass holes who like to have a laugh at someone else's expense

[@lyndetuvasa]

@@milesbennettdyson555 MMR for this game in my opinion doesn’t work especially since the devs tend to balance around low rank survivors and killers. If they actually find a way for it to work high rank MMR will be boring and it will become a sweat fest. Killers and survivors will mainly run the same perks. The variety of killers at super high MMR will result in some survivors only seeing a small amount of the killer roster. Spirit, Nurse, Hag, and maybe Blight.

[@LordMorltha]

@@milesbennettdyson555 God forbid Killers have fun in matches that last longer than 4 minutes. God forbid Survivors get some balls and use anything but the same handful of meta perks. I run Second Wind, Small Game, Borrowed Time and Inner Strength; and do quite well.

[@malachai533]

@@LordMorltha nobody cares what your build is bro this ain’t about you 🤣🤣

[@popdacorn7949]

SWF: KILLER OP Killers: .-.

[@alpha9528]

More like KILLERS WHEN THEY LOSE: SWF BULLIES RANDOM SURVIVORS WHO ARENT QUEUE TOGETHER: .-.

[@popdacorn7949]

@@alpha9528 nah mines better

[@timeusthenotverycleverguy3375]

I’m pretty much a survivor main and Someone I know is also a survivor main who complains about the game being too killer sided apparently, he said that according to research if someone is good enough they could easily control all of the gens with any killer even against tournament level swf which I considered to be complete bullshit

[@firasnajjar7003]

There's one way to settle the argument whether it was Tru3's mistakes or not that made him lose (although I personally think it was a combination of the two, mostly the SWF part) : Tru3 has to do some type of showcase on stream. For example, he can bring the same exact SWF he went against in this video, and put them up against a top% PH main on the same map. That's one idea for it, but I am sure Tru3 could think of something better, like an event or something.

[@yaboiigyro9286]

Hopefully he hosts a tournament where a lot of these conceptions about the game can be settled through finding top % survivor teams and killers.

[@soIzec]

At the 4:33 mark, all gens are completed. Sure, you might get these kinds of teams once every 50 games, but keep in mind that Tru got a 2k because he's a good killer player. This does not excuse the fact that top SWF is OP.

[@roslishirlinshoots5846]

exactly

[@maddog130]

it looked more like he got a 2k because they left the other two to die. no save attempt was made. but he did try that match either way.

[@SwuaveWEB]

Umm right, a good killer should get a 2k against good survivors. What are you suggesting?

[@Tanspartan1]

Yeah Tru3 isnt bad but I don't think hes on the same skill level as these players or others in the top % so its not really a fair criticism maybe he just needs to get better at the game? He's claiming the way the game worked out was unavoidable but he missed plenty of hits that doesn't prove that SWF is truly OP because if it was he could've played perfectly and still lost but he didn't play perfectly.

[@jgravemans6076]

You definitely has the odds stacked against you and even with a good killer. It's super difficult to try and be at 20 places at once, which is what a good SWF will make you feel like you need to be. Gotta give them some props for some of the moves but then take them away for the cocky attitude. And honestly, if they hadn't been so cocky that could have easily been a 3 or 4 man escape

[@TheOneAndOnlyZN]

Id like to add that this problem definitely scales beyond just the top .1% of players. I would consider myself maybe top 80-85 percentile at the game as killer and trying to get back into the game is extraordinarily difficult for me. I honestly am just going to quit playing killer because survivors that actually try and have communication between eachother is almost unbeatable for me. A balancing issue is very clear and something needs to be done to make killer fun again

[@IYIosefu]

There's a reason why survivor queues get pretty long

[@updatedotexe]

Not really. Killer queues are the ones that take ages most of the day

[@dimentioo]

@@updatedotexe not at all lmao i get killer games in seconds even when i play with friends survivor q takes forever

[@KirkPwns]

@@updatedotexe at night killer queue is instant. which is when most of the playerbase is in the game

[@spencerbowden2979]

@@updatedotexe killer queues are instant The only time they aren’t is when there’s a new killer out

[@danielward8645]

“Once again we got high caliber” *proceeds to waste god pallet 90 seconds into the game* 😂

[@astralfrost6626]

I keep saying the same thing and survivors don't want to hear it. They don't want balance in this game, they want to keep bullying the killer under this pathetic ruse of "just wanting to play with friends" as though that means that we have to ignore the ludicrous advantages they receive.

[@nwey6151]

im rank 1 with 300 hours and im only this rank because i play with a lot of friends around rank 8-13. To be honest i dont even play this game if it isnt to play with friends its just boring and a lot of people think this way.

[@updatedotexe]

@@nwey6151 I agree. Playing survivor solo is the most boring thing you can do with your time.

[@slashy9472]

@@FlowersOfAmity are u fr? lmao

[@slashy9472]

@@FlowersOfAmity so you dont play with friends? Bruh its the most fun thing to do :/ solo q is boring most all the time

[@AttorneyGamer]

@@slashy9472 your subjective opinion doesn't apply to everyone.

[@CheeseDBD]

Getting Scott Jund vs True Talent vibes

[@maximo88able]

nah that top survivors with friends break the game is not an opinion is a fact

[@jamesgarter9340]

@@maximo88able true and people saying spirit breaks the game which is funny but look at this team

[@adamknri11]

@@maximo88able no one cares tru3 and his fanbase are ignorant and act like this is a competence esports game. There’s like 1% of the games population that plays comp. the game isn’t going to get balanced around the top 1% you idiots. Grow up 85% of people in this game just do it for casual they balance around the majority. Y’all are so ignorant and think your so smart you just ignore the fact the game was never meant to be balanced in a competitive standpoint. Fuckin Reddit killer mains

[@rinreborn7364]

@@adamknri11 stfu if you are not a red rank killer and cannot 4k red rank swf

[@capsoap68]

@@adamknri11 Why are you even here lol? If you think True and his ENTIRE fanbase (bold statement) are ignorant then why are you here?

[@brianhildebran4351]

As a killer main with less than 300 hours. I am constantly going up against survivors with over 2000 plus hours sometimes over 3000. If it's a swf I get wrecked about 50% of the time. If not I usually 3 or 4K 75% of the time. And I am not on a Smurf account. Nor do I have one

[@12stepsbeyondtheeventhorizon]

The game is balanced towards the survivors because from a statistical standpoint, more hours are played as a survivor than a killer; i.e. time played as survivor, divided by 4, is much more than time played as killer. That's why the survivors have so many crutches. I'm not saying killers don't have any, but in most cases it's a hex totem that can either be broken, or activates at the very end of the game, while survivors on comms have the crutches all the time. And that's likely never going to change.

[@Agony-co4pd]

As a rank 1 killer i play against this kind of team a lot more than not. I tell you it is stressful and i have not played killer ever again because of it.

[@JackAssSquirrel]

same here. about every 4th game looks like this for me at rank 1 and if i play at night it can happen multiple times in a row. really takes the fun out of the game if matches don't last longer than 4 minutes

[@angjiapheng]

Me too. I play with a rule where I hooked every twice, downed them the third time, and let everyone go. Now I stay at green ranks. Player at that rank is usually still behave nice and polite. If some decide to be toxic, it is manageable to handle those situation. And my killer experience improved tremendously compared to red rank experience.

[@UMCorian]

@@angjiapheng This is an interesting idea.

[@q2boydlegend]

@@angjiapheng that is a interesting way to play indeed

[@VFG204]

I find it hard to believe that there are Killers out there who face these kinds of Survivor squads every game. That just doesn't happen and the game's statistics back that up. I've been at rank 1 for like 2 years and I really don't get these kind of teams often at all. Maybe you've gotten unlucky days every once in a while, or you just remember those horrid games more. I'm not gonna speak for others experiences per se, but it just doesn't seem possible. I'm not trying to start drama or anything but these are just my thoughts.

[@GooseWitDaJuice]

I can deal with a swf IF there was a 100% guarantee there was no way for them to use comms in-game. I wish there was some code to block 3rd party chats (like discord) while in a match. If you recognize a swf, you can actually switch your playstyle and usually end up with an extra kill due to the higher altruism of the team, but NOT when they are allowed to constantly say, "he's on me, do gens." "he pulled off me, he's heading to ____ gen". Those type of call-outs are what MASSIVELY separates an efficient SWF from a solo queue. In solo, you have to run bond, kindred, or object to get even close to that level of information, which then ties up extra perk slots that a swf has available to use on meta perks. The game is NOT fair with that level of information being used against a killer who doesn't have enough free information for himself. Sincerely, a guy who plays both sides.

[@mikemac1298]

Survivor hasn't changed in 4 years. No new objectives. No new abilities. Nothing. Of course people will master something in 4 years. They need to make survivors learn a new skill. It's just too many people have mastered that side of the game.

[@nickiplay395]

Your argument is only one sided. What about the Killer? Killers can master all the skills too. And what is the end result? In Top% of play if you dont play spirit or nurse you get smacked. That unbalance. It has nothing do to with survivor masterin skills. But i wanna agree with you. Because i think one new object in the game that you need to do as survivor would be refreshing and maybe gives the killer more time. The main problem is, everything below Top% Killers are powerfull so its hard to balance.

[@djekdozovitch3679]

@@nickiplay395 you dont need skill to press m1 and gen rush to oblivion as survivor. It has nothing to do with Nurse or Spirit bud, it happens even to players that play these 2 killers.

[@kaya5168]

@@nickiplay395 If someone is playing the same killer for 3000 hours then you are right but usually people don't do that, there are 23 killers with unique abilites that you need to master. But all survivors run the same loops do the same gens so mastering with one survivor is same as mastering all survivors

[@LordMorltha]

This. With the grind and how unforgiving this game is at first, this game has a decently high turnover of new players. Meanwhile, experienced players keep coming back. As such, the percentage of Survivors who have surpassed the Killer skill-ceiling is consistently increasing.

[@soleo2783]

Just make the survivors not be skins, i never got why it is like that. All the survivors have their own lore and shit but in gameplay they are all just skins, it's so weird.

[@tylercook6983]

Nobody: Entitled killer mains literally every game: MUST GET 4K....

[@TheMymimi100]

Reaching that perfect balance of 2 K and 2 escapes and the game rewards you with: *ENTITY DISPLEASED* o.k.

[@poepplays4489]

Balancing the game around people who play once a week with their mates on survivor is what's killing this game. Devs really need to employ people like yourself Tru3 who are on the game all the time and know what they're talking about.

[@VFG204]

Balancing around tournament squads will break the game too. DbD would become balanced like an E-Sport and we all know what would happen if it came to that.

[@poepplays4489]

@@VFG204 which is why I said to employ people like Tru3 who would be offering suggestions for the medium.

[@VFG204]

@@poepplays4489 But he's of the opinion that the game should be balanced towards the top %. Unless he recently changed his views which is guess is possible, he has always wanted this game to be balanced towards great players.

[@donyates7300]

@@VFG204 what you said.

[@poepplays4489]

@@VFG204 again..... Like Tru3. And multiple. Not so much Tru3 himself.

[@alexmax3502]

While these survivors are shitty human beings, I hate the devs more, because they did this... they created a system for these people to thrive in... no good developer creates their game around being easy for new players, that just plain bad design... because when you place a good player in that field he will just take advantage of the system and then when there's 4v1 and the game heavily leans in favor of survivors... there's no way for a killer to do well. It's bad games like DBD that remind me of how older games like Left4Dead were fun... the game was challenging and it rewarded skill... for example, in L4D the game didn't just gave you the best weapons and items when you first started, you had to walk around and explore... sometimes by yourself which would put you in risk but you could find better weapons and items by doing that... and if you're skilled, you can find yourself with all item slots full and a good weapon.... but in this shitty game, the devs are like "Let's nerf the killers so that new players who play survivors will enjoy it more, let's make it nice and easy..." And then they wonder why so many people complain about the game.

[@TrU3Ta1ent]

SWF takes advantage of its imbalance solo is getting to a good place imo.

[@JM-bb8iz]

@@TrU3Ta1ent Solo is nowhere near in a good place imo but I respect yours but totally disagree.

[@TrU3Ta1ent]

@@JM-bb8iz how so? You mean people are playing badly? I'm talking about the balance of solo.

[@JM-bb8iz]

@@TrU3Ta1ent I mean I think solo q was actually really good when mmr was a thing but I genuinely think people play in 4 mans including myself because solo q is just not fun and there’s a good amount of reasons why idk if you want me to like go into full detail why solo q is just really annoying but yea, that’s just what I think btw.

[@TrU3Ta1ent]

@@JM-bb8iz bad players make you lose yeah. That's kinda normal for a team game. Mmr will fix that. If done well.

[@ForsakenMemories45]

DBD: *uncoordinated Survivors can still be a hassle just by doing gens, coordinated Survivors make games incredibly difficult, SWF makes it nigh-impossible, all of it tracing back to gen speeds. Best Killer players have been running gen-progression-hindering perks for years, only changing to add either defense for those perks or more than one in the same build. These perks are constantly nerfed in some way, forcing Killer players to switch things up or try to make use of these nerfed perks because of how big an issue gen speeds are. Really good Killer players with short chases, lots of pressure, getting downs and hooks consistently still seeing the gens fly because of how fast they can be done and the nature of being one against four. Best Killers are the ones least inhibited by terrain and able to cover distance quickly to simulate being in more than one place at once and keep Survivors pushed off gens or try to give them something more important to do than gens to slow the game down.* BHVR: wElL wE aReN't SuRe LeT's RuN sOmE tEsTs AnD tHeN wE cAn CoLlEcT tHe DaTa To SeE iF gEnErAtOr SpEeDs MaY bE aN iSsUe.

[@Chacho131]

This is like a top % 4 man and you still got two. That's basically a win and the devs really need to look into the pip requirements for killer. The devs aren't going to balance the game around the top % when they make up such a small part of the player base though. They are going to balance for the majority and that's what makes sense as a developer. This isn't a esports symmetrical game no matter how much people think it is. At most it's a competitive-ish, casual, asymmetrical game. Once MMR is a thing maybe they can introduce conditions based on the MMR. Maybe at high ranks they can reduce gen speed, or increase the gen regression. However as the game is currently, it just does not make any sense to balance around such a small % of the player base. Especially with matchmaking being all over the place. Can the developers do better at fixing the game? Yes. Should they nerf survivors because of a very small % of players? No.

[@matkomilic201]

The only smart comment here.

[@hiimgnar8683]

it was not top% just basic swf with experimence why is that TOP% ? They played well against you and u did some mistakes so ye how is that top %

[@AkkirOrihsam]

why would you pick up ace instead of just putting him o nthe cage so you avoid DS. instead you picked him up and ate his DS

[@epiksar]

It was by accident. You can hear him say he didn't mean to pick him up

[@maddog130]

in my opinion it looked more like the 'breaking' part lies in the fact they were SWF. they weren't bad players by any means but at the same time none of them really had the best looping and i feel like tru3 just wasn't using his power in the right direction sometimes. the thing that made that match really hard was or would be the fact that everyone knows they are safe to sit on their gen and they just repair repair repair because they get to communicate, assuming they really are a SWF.

[@Rumson21Trib]

They're were pretty decent at looping. Tru3 had to leave them 2-3 times to not waste time.

[@maddog130]

@@Rumson21Trib thats kinda what im saying. they werent bad players but it wasnt like they were running him for minutes on end. i believe the power of that match lied in the fact they got to be like "he isnt near you keep doing gens". also the map bad

[@MadaraUchiha-ty4rh]

They were very strong loopers and if you cant see that then I'm afraid you're just not up to par. They were making solid reads and baiting really well. This kinda thing you only really see when it's high skill vs high skill, these subtle mind games occur often when two skilled players are in a chase. You realise they're good, so you bait, or they bait, and then they bait their bait etc lmao its all mindgames

[@giles7721]

Pop instead of corrupt intervention, my mistake.

[@Travsice]

I feel as if the people who say they don't face these teams all that often don't play killer all that often. Depending on the time of day (or I should say night) I play, I get teams that are around this caliber. For every 10 matches I play at this time more than half will be a sweat squad. They aren't the tip top % but they aren't that far off either. A very strong SwF team isn't that difficult to assemble. You need 4 survivors using comms, having above average game since (most rank ones fall under this category), and 2 strong loopers. Finding the strong loopers is the difficult part but really how hard is that you only need 2. Bam you have a SwF squad that will dismantle 85-90% of the killers that que up. Also having a 3 man that has 2 strong loopers and an average solo will be just a little less difficult on the killers side. Still pretty hard. Yes there is a weak link but as long as the weak link isn't awful and the survivors are efficient you won't get but maybe 2, or 3 max. Strong SwF groups will only have trouble with 3 of killers in this game the rest will be dealt with quick, fast, and in a hurry. If I play early morning I know I can only use, Spirit, Nurse, or Blight. If not the best I can normally shoot for is black PIP. I have about 2000 hours in the game. I'm normally rank 1 on both side. I know I'm not a god but I am pretty good if I do say so myself. These teams will at the very least stress me the fuck out, and just make me want to switch to survivor. Not fun at all.

[@joaohenriquerocha3425]

I go against this all the time too, and 9 times out of 10 I get wrecked. Every time this happens I think "I didn't sign up for this" or "this is impossible". It's funny how, despite being a Rank 1 killer just like you, I don't have nearly as much game experience, but the game puts us against these same ultra powerful survivors. Matchmaking at it's finest.

[@josephturner9920]

To make it more realistic, They should have the communication when you SWF only work where you are near each other in the trial. Like if you on the other side of the map, then your teammates can’t hear you talking.

[@mishikoquartz4574]

it'd be a good idea, although they can always just use discord and disregard that

[@andrewwillmer3862]

This, in fact, was painful to watch

[@TrU3Ta1ent]

well don't get high MMR when mmr is in lol this is all you'll get untill your mmr lowers.

[@butWhyDad]

Truetalent you need to accept the fact huge percentage of dbd player base is not even near this good and if they balanced the game for that small percentage of people who play so good then this game would most likely lose its player base because game becomes too hard and new players and casual players and solo players never get to win ever. It is already hard to win for them.

[@djekdozovitch3679]

Its the fact that you dont need skill to do gens and you mostly get 2 - 3 gens pop during first chase. That alone breaks the game.

[@LordMorltha]

So instead of balancing a game around skill, we just make it so the game basically plays itself? That kind of "balance for casual play" mindset is what killed games like F13 and Last Year. Balancing around skill is what has allowed DBD to survive so long. The most noticeable bit of casual balancing the devs have done is the Ruin and Undying nerfs (God forbid Survivors learn how to hit great skill checks or find totems), and Killer matches have been far more stressful as a result.

[@Random-yg1fi]

It’s actually surprisingly easy to balance for both. Most new or uninformed survivors don’t abuse or know how to abuse some of the more broken things in dbd that experienced survivors do. For instance, looping. Making slight changes to jungle gyms can have huge ramifications for the top 1% while the rest of the player base won’t even notice. Dbd needs that kind of balance changes

[@sylorknag]

I said in scotts video, I'll say it again here. The fact that people playing the the game the well is so broken, makes the balance team of this game nothing but a joke. No wonder survivors in this game have the biggest god complex I've ever seen in any multiplayer game. The devs basically hand it to them for free.

[@sylorknag]

@@omarelgendy2821 no really. Thousand hours killers don't stand a chance, and that's the joke of the matter. Bad players will eventually get better, thus, this idea of balancing for noobs is the most stupid shit ever. Any multiplayer game strives to have both sides at equal chance of winning when both players/teams are playing at about the same skill level. There's no defending this. Not trying to be rude or anything, but their balance team is the worst ever, and it shows in flying colors. Just imagining if one class in starcraft 2 was completely busted when playing at high level. People would never take it serious, the same way that Tournaments in this game are a joke for the single fact that coms literally break the entire game. You're also assuming any killer is god tier no matter what, when playing killer as optimal as possible is way harder than survivor. Idk why ppl keep forgetting that there are also NEW players that play killer.

[@lierx.agerate8230]

Ironically, if there wasn't such a thing as video game content creators, there would be far less good players especially in a game like this

[@Herbster0]

I mean a Fact is that their have over 30% of perks for free by just being in coms so yeah

[@Boko888]

I agree with you that the top %1 can be extremely annoying to play against and the game is nowhere near fair for killers against them. But that's just it, the top 1%. Most of the ppl playing won't get there or see it. If they balance the game for the 1%, killers in lower ranks will be even stronger and I believe make ppl quit. It's just not a viable strategy to balance around the top players. However we could have different tiers of playing. With different balancing for each tier.

[@chengchiu957]

But the problem is the games has been tilting one side or another for a long time, which is to say in a 4v1 games its difficult to balance, and the balancing changing has always been off on the scale. That is the main point, which is to balance they make killer stronger or weaker, and vice versa with survivors. Not many people has solution but we know one side isn't satisfied at all times.

[@yng_louie6367]

They have to learn. Every other game balances around the top players and the low tier players just have to adjust, thats how it is.

[@JackJester21]

Most of the top tier survivors dont want to fave good killers. Theyre happy to just blast out gens as long as they get to click their flashlights and teabag in the exit gate

[@mikemac1298]

There are WAY more than 1%. I go against teams like this 1 in 6 games. I tracked it for 50 games.

[@dusty0559]

Why does Pyramid even have the slowed turning when in his power? If you have the slowed turning you can predict where he will shoot already, and then you ALSO get the shockwave warning displayed again so you can dodge. Such a waste imo.

[@scarletgod3146]

4:40 not even Frank's prank. Actual exit gates

[@daspitty5872]

Top % should just go play Civilization 😜

[@PUNKSBR]

Swf is not the problem, the real problem is the DISCORD (VOICE CHAT THEY USE), cause if there are perks to have info of each other and the killer, they should not allow players tobuse voice apps while in the game, it is like do a test in school with google opened to have answers... I think the game should be reformulated to have a diferent mode where u can actually use a in game voice chat and in other (normal) players who use should be pumished or not allowed to find matches. Cause there is no point in play a game with no voice chat and still use it...

[@Silverstone_Myth]

This is why we stay at green ranks. Sure you'll still get these squads but once every 10 matches or so. I never bothered to pip to purple let alone red. When I do get to purple I just afk to depip back

[@marcherrera9364]

Even playing at red ranks you won’t get this type of squad every 10 games. Definitely some swf but it’s rare to have some where all 4 know what they’re doing

[@leaha2357]

@@marcherrera9364 Its rare, but its such a boring and unfun game to play, I mean why increase the odds of not having fun in a game?

[@leaha2357]

@@milesbennettdyson555 Its hardly a good solution, far from it, but if the devs didnt make the game so unfun in some cases then people wouldnt do it in the first place, try to think about why something is happening Not that I agree with this approach, but if you love a game when it works, why would you choose to make it unfun much more often, plus anyway half the people who play this game basically do this anyway so it just sounds like having a standard teammate

[@username3471]

So these are the guys I played against in the green ranks? Interesting

[@lucidlaughlin3035]

I don't know if "top %" as you are calling this is an example of people breaking Dead by daylight. There are MUCH better teams ie Oracle / Agony and such. I think a big part of what went wrong is that you're not slugging correctly and wasted a lot of time carrying to hooks and playing "Nice". This isn't a point scoring game, you win if you do a good job and 4k and you lose if someone escapes. Killer isn't about finding a chase then ending it as quickly as possible, it's about building a relationship with all 4 survivors and stopping them cold. You won't outrace 5 gens for 12 hooks, you have to win suddenly (but even trickster and trapper can do this vs the best teams so PH doing it should be not even a question!) You also are wasting a lot of time making power usage a mindgame, PH needs to drag his knife and M1 survs or punish an animation lock, all those wiffs really hurt you. You are also just chasing / tunnel visioning on what is in front of you. You have to figure out where everyone is and where they are spawned and chase one into the rest of the team, 4 man slug or if they kite you away from the gens that have progress on them, THEN you can start hooking and give an ultimatum. I eat teams like this for breakfast, lunch and dinner and I don't think I am THAT much better than you at general map knowledge, mechanics and mental but I don't play as nice and I understand my win conditions and that makes all the difference.

[@baang8229]

I agree with you about what you're saying but I don't think you can balance the game around this type of team atm

[@NxChillNick]

I agree entirely with top % of survivors ruining the game. I rarely play with a SWF and just SOLO queue but when I do it's such a blow out even against very strong killers and players with knowledge of the game. Then when playing SOLO it's so much more difficult for the survivor because the killer is sweating so hard to win due to them playing these types of matches on the regular. There should be a SWF and SOLO gamemode or just extra time on everything because you can finish anything 2x quicker with a great team. It also makes red rank survivor boring/annoying to play since you usually play the same 4 or so killers within the game with no variety in their builds.

[@Yuri-xj6tm]

The vision of balance the game around low level gameplay is what is truly ruining it

[@eudaimonia97]

5:12 LMAO

[@ryzacraft]

The game is balanced for solo survivors with no communication. The moment you Chuck 4 survivors that know how they all play, with communication, 4 good perks and good items, the killer doesn’t have a chance

[@Yuri-xj6tm]

In that situation, people are gonna say: oh, you did this and that wrong, you could've played better bla bla bla. Honestly... Yes, this is not wrong, the thing is, we are human, we can't play on our apex skill every match, but how many mistakes a killer is allowed to commit and be able of overcome in comparison to how many of this in the side of the survivors?

[@KingsNerdCave]

I don't think swf should be just outright removed from the game, but crap like this is BS. Was Ace good in chase? Most definitely. But then he brags about how great his is with teabagging and clicky clicky but without telling his 3 team mates "HE'S ON ME DO GENS. HE'S TRASH DO GENS ON ME, LEAVING ME GOING TO YOU, GONNA HEAL, DO GENS" then they wouldn't be getting as far. Good lord is balance garbage sometimes. With swf allowed then killers should be designed to handle it as a challenge but fairly, but if killers wre designed to be that strong then yellow and grey ranks would be nightmares. I'd argue for just how you can say whether or not you want crossplay, as killer you should be allowed to say whether or not you want to play against swfs.

[@cuper3000z]

Man so dose he only want to go against bad player or dose he get salty easy because the game he just played are 50% of my games and i just say good game for how fast the won sportsmanship is not around anymore

[@darkmax4872]

Lol the thing is whenever you are in a swf and you play to win like this it gets kind of boring unless you're going for a streak. That's why you'll see a lot of survivors doing stupid shit. It's not very fun gen rushing.

[@furiouscartman5338]

2 person SWF only for public games. That's it. You can dominate as 4 man in KYF against the best Nurses in competitive games.

[@MightyJabroni]

"You can dominate as 4 man in KYF against the best Nurses in competitive games." No ..... just no. Nurse breaks every interactive mechanic in the game between survivors and killers. Top nurse players with aura reading perks/Add Ons just have to engage in an excercise of well established muscle memory, until everybody hits the dirt. There objectively is no counterplay to this. Not once the top skill ceilling is reached. It's like a god mode, that you have to learn .... but a god mode nonetheless. Jeez, there are videos of supaalf, where he lets teams do all five gens on purpose and does absolutely nothing (other than pissing off to a hiding spot) before the gates are powered. Then he goes on and murders them all anyway. At a point, where they just need to open the fookin' gates.^^ I am not saying that it would work out like that everytime. But the fact, that this is even possible at all should give you a good idea about how absurdly strong a top notch Nurse is. It is stupidly OP!

[@soleo2783]

@@MightyJabroni I mean, it's the same survivors side. That's the problem, the game's core mechanics are so survivor sided when played at the highest level that the only 2 consistent S tier killers are the ones that ignore basic chase mechanics and map size, by having an entirely unique style of chasing and a shit ton of map presence.

[@MightyJabroni]

@@soleo2783 ".... the game's core mechanics are so survivor sided when played at the highest level ...." Yeah, but only on paper. Because optimized squads with this playstyle are so rare. And there are two reasons for that: 1) Playing like this, for the most part and for most players (especially the very skilled ones), is boring af. In many games you will just end up staring at gens. 2) The game doesn't really incentivice that playstyle. Lack of alturistic plays and lack of chases will cost most team members blood points. You can actually de-pip, while winning with ease. So it's boring AND punishing. I always find the doom and gloom butthurt around this to be fabricated. Because in an average DBD session, you will run into drastisally different squads. These elite gen jockeys are not representative for the entire DBD experience at all. Yet, everybody acts as if it is these unicorns, that the balance should be centered around .... which is insane.

[@soleo2783]

@@MightyJabroni And i guess you see god tier nurses every other game yeah? It being uncommon doesn't make it feel any better to play against does it? And gen jockeys are very common, it's not hard to do, the harder part of survivor side is looping.

[@MightyJabroni]

@@soleo2783 Was I bitching about Nurses? Nope. I am just of the crazy opinion, that balancing a game with a very big, mostly casual playerbase around what happens at the top 1 or 2 percent ..... is a bad idea. Yes, these sweat squads may grace you every second full moon. But at the same time, a guy like Ryuga can go with Legion from rank 20 to 1 in one sitting. No perks and add ons needed. And not a single game lost. So how bad can it be? Balancing this game is a matter of looking at the playerbase as a whole. Not just some unicorns like elite Nurses and sweat squats, who enjoy playing in the most M1 centric way possible ..... and then de-pipping.

[@hewmanbeing]

5 gens in about 4:30 seconds give or take. In a game that takes about that long to get into a match and often longer; the game should never be over that quickly.

[@zackthunder_5911]

The thing that none of y’all really understand is that’s not his preferred setup for that killer he takes build request from his twitch community and it’s 10 times better the the KZbin seeing all the comments so if he had a killer he like and had his build things would be in his favor and he definitely would of done better y’all would knew this if you would stop assuming and go look into it instead of saying dumb shit and it’s is really impossible to play agents a 4 man even a 4 man that’s not that good at looking they be on coms and tell them who’s get chased and what gen to get on and rush and gen regression is a lot slower then the survivors doing the actual gens so next time use your brain and think and stop being one sided.

[@HyenaBlak]

So the problem with this video is he was playing against a 4 man but still got 2 kills but doesn’t acknowledge his own mistakes on the chases and doesn’t consider the map he was on? I mean he tried his best could have done better if he didn’t let his frustrations ruin his judgment making in those chases. I would say he just got unlucky with the map the ones with 3 gen on one side and 4 on the other is one of the hardest maps to play on In general, you’re forced to stay on one side so there’s not much anyone can do in that situation against red rank survivors in general not just top %.

[@HyenaBlak]

@@TheAlburp 1. You don’t go against survivors like this every game and I already said he did his best on a bad map. 2. Swf is only broken when the survivors are actually rushing the gens or lasting really long in chases. Again he got unlucky with the map not much he can do. You don’t play against these kinds of survivors that much anyway and even then he still killed 2 of them Dbd isn’t designed to play like a professional tournament not every match is going to have a team of people with 4k-5k hours. There’s only a small % of swf that make the game busted if it happened every game nobody would play.

[@HyenaBlak]

@@TheAlburp his ruin also didn’t do anything for him because again look at the map he’s on the survivors literally did all of the gens on the other side of the map with no distractions. It’s only useful if you keep them off gens hence why I said he got unlucky with the map it’s extremely had to pressure gens on those maps with 2 separate sides with gens you are always force to 3 gen on those maps.

[@mikemac1298]

survivor main here...

[@maddog130]

one of the things that annoys me about tru3 is he will constantly say things like he does in this video that usually go along the lines of "im used to this high tier stuff so i know how to face it" he always says this and things like it so much it starts to feel like he needs to prove it to himself by saying it out loud almost every video/match. and like you said he always says stuff like these guys are good but never says he messed up something. like not to be rude but sometimes a survivor will do a seemingly basic thing and he will messup and say like the second after "yeah these are high calibre players i can tell" when it really didnt look like it. i just feel like he puts up a front.

[@HyenaBlak]

@@mikemac1298 not a survivor main but whatever fits your narrative.

[@suneelkumar555]

4 min 37 seconds all gens done, crazy

[@CynicalScientist261]

That ace ruined it for the the team. Sick of toxic survivors.

[@TandarenBGR]

They won the game at 4:35 even after searching and cleansing ruin and unhooking 2 times... He got 2 kills just because they were screwing around. Survivors are the broken power role.

[@peridoott]

Next time dont do ANY mistakes and pressure gens. Some of these comments are delusional

[@danielward8645]

Also you can’t call this the real power roll when you go out of your way to avoid killers strongest tactics(aka camping, tunneling and slugging). I get WHY you don’t do those things. But most red rank killers have no problem abusing bull shit tactics to get the cheapest 4k imaginable.

[@hjalmar1112]

he started to be toxic when you tunneled him

[@epiksar]

Really, dude? After the DS, he hit 2 other survivors, the Ace got healed and tried to open an exit gate, and that is still tunneling? Tru3 needed a kill. The game was at its end.

[@hjalmar1112]

Epik Faith I didn’t say ace didn’t deserve it. Gen rushers are dirty

[@MissSir]

@@epiksar the tunneling was when he went straight after ace even after him taking a borrowed time hit immediately after being unhooked. you just are confused when the tunneling started lmao.

[@epiksar]

@@MissSir I'm saying if Tru3 was tunneling and that was the reason why that Ace was t bagging, then the Ace would've stopped being toxic after he wasn't being tunneled. Tunneling wasn't the reason the Ace was being toxic. You know that. I am well aware of when the tunneling started

[@brubbo6565]

hi

[@kaikemattos2420]

The problem is that Tru3 does not recognize that he made countless mistakes in that match and the survivors won several chases. The duxe missed 90% of the punishement of the dammed attacks and still thinks he should have caught them.

[@TheGman_24]

Dude they had the movement of really strong survivors which means they are not predictable he played at his best would you have done better is that what you are saying?

[@stoneblood9864]

They did 3 gens in 3 minutes. It doesnt matter what true was doing at that point. That would have been gg for 95% of killers against a team like that.

[@kaikemattos2420]

@@TheGman_24 Not necessarily,what i mean is that the survivors winned a lot of the chase plus Tru 3 maked a few mistakes. Pyramid is not my greatest killer,so probaly i would do worst.

[@0_0-k4r]

@@kaikemattos2420 I know what you mean. So it is about which killer True would use to against this team. It depends on the killers. If True use top tier killer like spirit , he might have a bigger chance to 3 to 4k. However, True might not be very experienced with Pyramid Head plus this team is really good at looping then it leads to True losing chase.

[@TheGman_24]

@@kaikemattos2420 ah okay I understand now

[@harriselites]

Is there ever a day where you don’t complain about the game . Ortz rarely ever complains

[@flegmaniac3462]

Well, I don't really see the problem here. The devs were right. You got 4:30 minutes to down them, hook them 12 times, and win the game. All they got are some loops to run around and Clicky lights. Simple...

[@EyeOfTheDevil23]

It’s so cringe when killer mains cry over SWF like you have literal ANTI-LOOP killers, stealth killers, one-shot abilities & dumb perks & items like Franklin’s n like iridescent heads that take away literally the only things survs have to defend themselves against the power role (loops/heartbeat/items/healthstates) and on top of all of that you want to take away communication? Come on bro if you get clapped by SWF when you have all the advantages you could ever need I’m sorry but you need to start looking inward and taking some accountability for your mistakes instead of blaming your L’s on four microphones 🙃.

[@squillvfx]

I do think that corrupt would’ve helped you a lot this game but in my opinion it should be base game. A SWF like this is very unfair without rules although both sides made some notable mistakes. You could’ve opted to use your power and tunnel the Claudette, but nevertheless what they’re doing is extremely unfair. DH is already a bullshit perk but when there is 4 of them that’s just straight up insanely unfair. They also have purple and green items which is unfair. If you were to vs them and say 16 perk rules (1 of each perk) it would be fair considering that you are playing one of the viable killers. Also if you were playing like Myers here there would’ve been straight up like nothing you could’ve done.

[@suneelkumar555]

No one saved claudette 😂

[@saveloy4295]

Shame bout the clicking it was winnable with a different killer Clicking really does make you look childish and loses all respect

[@dminusflamingo7168]

its more like dead by map rng. when u master the game, maps are the reason u win or lose. and if u complain about swfs, then u can complain about nurse.

[@szabobence3236]

No respect for gen rushing and this cocky playstyle idc how good they are at looping

[@BlazerExists]

Gen rushing is their objective, you can't blame the survivors for the fact that they can be repaired so fast. Cocky toxic playstyle on the other hand...

[@choklomba]

to be fair just look at how many times you missed your power and you still got two kills. you should just take what you got. you played poorly and you should focus on your mistakes not on complaining cause you lost.

[@MadaraUchiha-ty4rh]

LOL Get your head out of your ass 😂😂 He didn't play poorly, it's just that the survivors played optimally. The only mistake Tru3 made was picking up the guy who DS'd him instead of sending him to a cage.

[@choklomba]

@@MadaraUchiha-ty4rh Man used his power 15 times and it only hit 5 times, are you sure you're watching the same video as me? if you think he should get a 4k with that effort you're like every killer main who wants to 4k everygame and screams "survivor op" after losing one game cause he played badly.

[@MadaraUchiha-ty4rh]

@@choklomba Why are you talking about 4ks? Yeah he missed his power but so what? That's not playing badly, it's taking a shot and missing. It's different than getting 360'd to fuck and whiffing all day because of it. That's just the nature of Pyramid's power when you use it outside of situations when survs are animation locked. You see, its often worth the shot because of what you can get from it. One of his hits actually got two people through a wall. Just because he missed attacks doesn't take away from the point of the video being SWF is VEEEERY strong, which is something I'd hope we all know is true by now.

[@choklomba]

@@MadaraUchiha-ty4rh I do agree high-level swf is strong and I do know that tru3 is a good killer. I also didn't mean that he played like a baby killer he just played Pyramid badly. him taking all these shots and missing them wasted a lot of his time and in 1v4 one killer mistake is like 4 survivors mistakes. a killer without his power stands no chance to win with basic killer knowledge vs a team like this. Just imagine if he hit like 10 of his shot. this match would've been way different.

[@MadaraUchiha-ty4rh]

@@choklomba The thing is though, in order to have hit 10x, he would have had to try his power 10x. Nothing ventured, Nothing gained. You say he took 15 attempts and only hit 5. I wonder what you would say if he had hit 15/15? It's unfortunate that he missed so many, and I personally wouldn't have even attempted quite a lot of those, but to say he played badly because he missed... I have to disagree. Its only "bad" because of the result, if you get what I'm trying to say? It's hard to describe. If someone committed to vaulting a window and Tru3 had charged his power up and missed, then I would say yes, he played badly. But the way he was using it was more predictive, almost a gamble, so I feel like it's just whoever makes the right read or plays better comes out on top. I do believe they outplayed him, plain and simple, but just because someone is better than you doesn't mean you are bad

[@lilgamerguy]

Alright tru3, I love your content but it does get tiring hearing you blame the game as much as you do for your losses. So, I'm gonna go through and explain every single mistake you make in this video because you definitely could have won this had you played more efficiently. For reference: I've been playing the game since 2016, I play both roles, I've got 3k hours in the game and play the majority of the killers in the game, I'm not some baby player, I know how the game works. 0:34 you fall for a bait here instead of waiting for a window vault prompt and reacting, which leads to wasted time chasing her 1:11 missing this hit is crucial as this would have been the down and leads to even more wasted time, roughly 20 seconds until you down her, and you know just as well as I do that against efficient teams like this every second counts, very big mistake there not getting that hit near the pallet 1:58 you see a survivor in the distance running for the unhook, but instead we go after the Jake who is in a strong position. Had you switched targets you could have forced the survivors into a position where Jake would have had to leave his gen to avoid having Claudette hit second state on the hook, or Ace would have had to run across the map to get to her in time once again slowing their generator progress and funneling the team towards your side of the map. 2:30 pointless knife plant. Few seconds of wasted time. Very small nitpick but once again, every second counts. 2:40 falling for this bait once again leads to another unnecessary loss of pressure. Some patience here would have helped you. In this situation you could have simply waited and reacted to what Ace did and downed him no matter what, but you were impatient and he punished you for it, missplay 2:58 another missed punishment of the damned. Pretty obvious mistake to point out but had this hit it could have been big for you when you're in a situation where you've got no pressure on the map. 3:44 we could have slugged Ace here and gone after the other survivor which would have generated more map pressure by forcing another survivor to come get Ace off the ground. At the very worst he has unbreakable and we force it out of him. 4:24 once again pretty obvious but this was a serious blunder that probably was the nail in the coffin in terms of having a chance to win this game. Caging Ace here could have lead to a lot of pressure. And at that point the final gen was done so not much left to point out. Now once again, I'm a fan tru3. I've been watching for years, I appreciate the constant uploads and variety in different killers and survivor matches, the channel has a ton of great content! And this comment is not meant to be a personal attack or a takedown on your character/your skill at the game, you're quite a good player, an amazing player actually, you just played this game pretty poorly. And that's okay! We all mess up and make mistakes, it's human. I just wanted to play devil's advocate and make some points, had you played this differently this game could have looked much different. Definitely are right about them being irritating though, gotta love the constant clicking and teabagging whenever they do anything whether or not it was actually an impressive play lol. (And I definitely don't think the game is perfect either, there's a lot that could be changed to make the experience/balance of the game better)

[@LordMorltha]

1. Missed punishments are just as much Survivors dodging the obvious orange "DANGER" light, as Tru3 making a mistake. 2. You expect Tru3 to play perfectly while the Survivors don't have to? Even if he'd played perfectly, these Survivors would likely still have gotten the gens done ridiculously quickly.

[@Travsice]

You shouldn't have to play a literal perfect game to beat a group of survivors considering they can make 10+ a game and still escape. I get what you're trying to do but it just isn't right. Even if he did play a perfect game there's a strong possibility he wouldn't even gotten a 4k. He got the 2 kills the game is balances around but still de piped? That shouldn't be right as said by the devs. It honestly isn't even that difficult to assemble one of these squads as well. All you need is everyone to have good game knowledge, comms, and 2 very strong loopers. Boom, you have a team that will take care of 85-90% of the killer players that you'll encounter. Im also rank 1 on both sides too. I've played on one of the squads for less than a week. It's not any fun, I don't get why people even do it in the 1st place.

[@epiksar]

You guys are misunderstanding what OP is saying. He never suggested Tru3 should have played a perfect game. He says that in his last paragraph. He was just pointing out ways that the game could have tipped in his favor.

[@lilgamerguy]

@@epiksar Exactly. Nobody is gonna play a perfect game ever. But had tru3 done just a few things different this game could have had very different results.

[@justchickenstrips]

Im rank 1 survivir and killer and its easier to pip as killer.. im a telecamp hag

[@flurry7439]

Doubt that anyone is ever gonna argue with you about that^^

[@lucidlaughlin3035]

PH should hit at pallets 100% of the time, I notice you are dragging your knife to guarantee a hit when you come up to a loop and have visual feedback that you are chasing a survivor but when you have clicky girl and hear her behind you you don't start your trail where you can M2, get pallet slapped and lose a free hit. You have to use your ears more as killer, and you have to figure out things that you can't see yet / track what you didn't meet yet, ESPECIALLY at the start of the game. Spawns in this game are predictable and you can reliably identify where all 3 other survivors are or can be when you find 1. They are either on the gens they spawned on or split first and if they aren't they split in cardinal directions. That type of predictive reading is one of the most fundamental (and neglected) skills in the killer toolbox.

[@animestuff6779]

Swf should be ilegal

[@forgivn3ss]

Shit I felt this game on a whole other level 😅😩 It aint ever simple to go against a swf who play like they did...it’s tough af but least you got 2 of em. De pip but ah well... that’s Dbd for you.

[@spencerbowden2979]

Swf was never intended for this game. The devs only implemented it because the game was dying at the time.

[@forgivn3ss]

@@spencerbowden2979 I mean there ain’t nun wrong wit people playing wit friends.. it’s always fun doin that... it’s just difficult af for the killer if it’s a team of good players on coms lmao wish more people understood that instead of toxic players talkin shit like it’s easy lol

[@spencerbowden2979]

@@forgivn3ss the only thing wrong with it is that they allow you to do it in ranked play which flat out is not fair to the killer. This is one of the hugest reasons why rank is not an accurate depiction of a players skill it’s too easy for survivors to cheese. It should be restricted to custom games.

[@KN-592]

Kawai smol chibi tru3

[@krouster2629]

Tru3 you are my inspiration to keep playing

[@HK-fi1cf]

They simply dont break the game. You may face a 4 man swf 1 in every 50 games. It might be very hard to win against a team but that doesn't mean they should balance the game around them

[@kimmici5676]

But feeling helpless as killer shouldn’t exist... hard ? Yes, makes you feel like anything you do won’t matter? Nope 5 gens in 5 mins or even 4 mins and a half wtf

[@sigmatst]

1 in every 50 games? your matchmaking is way luckier than mine lmao

[@daemonblackfyre8306]

Stop using psychdelics that often my dude ur opinion is straight outta trippy land. Red rank killer matchmaking is full of 4 man swfs, im always dodging them. I need light 9 to weak asss 10 minutes to play the game in the evening (west europe timezone) They are breaking the game, as u can see truuu chases that guy for 2 tiles, 1 normal pallet and 1 shack and BADABOOOM 2 gens done. u are high af stop consuming that shit. I NEED TO DODGE FUCKING ten parties of 4man swfs to play against a 3man swf. laaaame

[@MaxMustermann-qu3kr]

@@kimmici5676 If you balance the game around these survivor teams, then 4 random solo survivors would feel just as helpless.

[@HK-fi1cf]

@@daemonblackfyre8306 You are sad, there is no way to tell they are 4 man swf unless they have the same names or something. You just love the victim mentality. Lets pretend you dodge 10 4 man swf's and lets also pretend you arent terrible at the game. You can still win those games if you werent so whiny

[@bryank4166]

I'm glad people are on board when a streamer gets hit with this garbage. Now get on board the rest of the way.

[@martinprice6526]

losing to swfs feels like im there for there fun but my fun doesnt exist like it should be fun for both sides plain and simple however there is some anoying shit on the killer side the balance is just shit and the meta of perks gamemode is stale

[@BillyMakeGames]

😂 you did make some mistakes in the beginning of this match

[@evilxposse4145]

I never understood why you bring numbers into discussion whenever the ranking system on this game doesn’t even matter. Of course a good player could break any game. Dbd for example requires communication and a good headset lol. I go against swf’s with rank 13-16 teammates all the time at rank one killer and some of them are just as good as people that play all the time because of ‘communication’

[@Thomx13]

A PvP with two good players shouldnt be broken like shown in this match

[@Agony-co4pd]

More than likely a smurf. I know someone who does that.

[@ryannem1216]

Ranks don't matter in SWF but it does in solo.