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@stripes88126 жыл бұрын
I once chaos warped a winter orb. He shuffled and I cut... into a winter orb.
@Words-of-encouragement.-.5 жыл бұрын
Ouch.
@acidity89125 жыл бұрын
My opponent chaos warped my omniscience in to omniscience. They cut the deck.
@mshevy98295 жыл бұрын
My opponent once chaos warped ulamogs crusher, and I got ulamogs crusher
@Sucrose_Mother5 жыл бұрын
My opponent chaos warped my blightsteel collossus into blightsteel collossus
@kinkajuu15 жыл бұрын
i chaos warped my wifes serra avatar in when she had wall of reverance. she shuffled then i cut and revealed serra avatar :(
@shawnthornton79716 жыл бұрын
Asking my opponent if they're gonna pay 1 every time they cast a spell is one of the main reasons to play rhystic study
@generalawesome72795 жыл бұрын
Especially when they forget why
@JpDubbed5 жыл бұрын
"This is borderline harassment by the way" 😂😂
@ejedwards9885 жыл бұрын
I never pay for the study and cast a lot of spells, then traumatize the player, pop tormud's crypt. When you lose half your deck drawing more cards is unfortunate.
@ertai2224 жыл бұрын
Most play groups just opt no
@elitemaster6666 жыл бұрын
Damn Blood Moon man, that card should be in this list.
@Illusionmaker_MTG6 жыл бұрын
If you mention Kismet you also have to name Frozen Æther, as it is Kismets blue, timeshifted version. Loxodon Gatekeeper is Kismet on a stick so It should not go unmentioned, too!
@Ceilio345 жыл бұрын
Good video. I was really surprised that Blood moon didn't show up. Also contamination is brutal too
@AffinityForCommander6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have a personal hatred of authority of the consuls - especially when it's dropped turn one!
@brianwillson66796 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it matters but the Null Rod/Stony Silence also turns off equipment which in EDH is kind of a thing.
@d9_10566 жыл бұрын
I recently threw together a zur deck with various cards i had in my collection...the two games we played were games of arch enemy. Won them too. Might upgrade it lol
@datboi74916 жыл бұрын
Surprised Choke wasn't in here. Threw it in my Karametra deck the other day, the merfolk player played Scoop on the stack in response, and it was one of the best feelings I've had playing commander.
@das2s4s6 жыл бұрын
Lets add "tangle wire" with any repeatable proliferate ability to the list too while we are at it.
@deviantsid185 жыл бұрын
Proliferate the counters
@EliyaSelhub6 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace should get an honorable mention for graveyard hate
@bigchief64956 жыл бұрын
With stasis if you keep 6 mana two blue 4 colorless you can capsize with buyback at the end of your opponent turn and you can play magic while everyone else doesn’t lol
@jayfeather76765 жыл бұрын
The way i learned Magic was by playing against an old deck full of plague rats, will o wisps, nightmares, fireballs, winter orb, rack AND vice, royal assasins and extermates. I didn't win a single game for about my first 20-25 games. "Hate cards" ceased to phase me long ago
@talentless48386 жыл бұрын
For torpor orb I have a ixalan card that does the same thing (-something- honor guard, 1/3 for 1 mana of any color and 1 white mana)
@jonathantillian65286 жыл бұрын
Also with Null Rod you can have the ever not-so-fun Mycosynth Lattice combo. Because who want's a game where no land can tap for mana!
@TombiDTA6 жыл бұрын
Could you please do a deck tech for sen triplets, pillowfort, no stax ideally, emphasize political gameplay perhaps? Although I think some hatebears are probably warranted some slots in the deck. At the moment my current list has no wincon outside of azors elocutors and my opponents decks, but I built it with the idea that they can't call my deck boring or unfun because I'd be playing theirs. Please help as I'm not sure if I'm doing it right
@CoverofWinter6 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can out-politic people hating you for playing with their stuff and shutting them out of your turn. I have played a deck like that, that mostly focused on stealing other people stuff and I invariably became the target after a few turns of trying to ramp up some mana.
@basketfullofholes98675 жыл бұрын
Humility prevents etb effects which has been amazing whenever I have played.
@thijsvisscher72316 жыл бұрын
Nice list! Stax is not called after Smokestack though. It's actually called after a deck called $T4KS, Which stood for The 4k Solution. A deck made to counter the Gro-A-Tog deck in the Vintage format.
@hawkeye1371376 жыл бұрын
Nice list, but I wish you listed Void Winnower at least as a honorable mention. Since it is colorless it can go in any deck and there are lots of good cards it hoses that are even cmc. All the 2 mana counterspells, 4 and 6 mana wraths, Cyclonic Rift, many good commanders, all the 6 mana powerful creatures, etc.. If you can protect it from odd cmc mostly single target removals, it will win you the game probably.
@Hrafnskald6 жыл бұрын
Good choices. For honorable mention, I would also suggest Leovold, Emissary of Trest, for all the flavor of "you don't ever get to draw again" combos.
@CommanderVoid6 жыл бұрын
He would’ve been if he wasn’t banned
@Hrafnskald6 жыл бұрын
Built in Hate from the Judges ;)
@El_ultimo_Guille2 жыл бұрын
i love torpor orb righ the moment went out, it make Phage the Untouchable so enjoyable
@shawnbellville69786 жыл бұрын
Does Gaddock Teeg affect your own creatures as well?
@mrmahga60045 жыл бұрын
Great list! Wish Elesh Norn could have made it for token hate...
@TheMatthew0015 жыл бұрын
as a person who only has rainbow commander decks (it wasn't intentional the five color commanders just call to me) i laugh at iona as she removes one color but i got 4 more.
@thewitchsfamiliar5 жыл бұрын
For you it is. For everyone else who does not, she is still a living nightmare
@andrewhoward69465 жыл бұрын
I was expecting Sphere of Resistance to make the list. It's like a Thorn of Amethyst that also works on commanders!
@InfernalWheel6 жыл бұрын
Ive actually only played one game where my Static Orb actually had a significant effect on the board. I felt bad about it...but not bad enough to where I wont do it again. Lol
@manaraider6286 жыл бұрын
What if you used muldrotha the new dominaria legendary with Smokestack
@Reavermyst6 жыл бұрын
Humility is a pretty rough card, but I like the added flavor of Overwhelming Splendor which targets a particular player for a very similar effect. Great way to get your friend with a huge board to hate your guts
@Drengade6 жыл бұрын
winter orb or static orb? Why not both?
@Aiswful6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes... After a looong day... I play with Iona as my General in my Angel Tribal Commander Deck .... Against my friends monocolored deck... He always tries to... But never succeed...
@NoBody-ro3xj5 жыл бұрын
Aaannnd play helm of the host on it. So it makes multiple and stop everyone
@briangentry37145 жыл бұрын
I was playing Unesh, Criosphinx Sovereign. Mono blue. My opponent managed to get Iona, Shield of Emeria to stick. Of course they named blue. My turn rolls back around and I managed to top deck a Mycosynth Lattice. The look on his face was priceless.
@thewitchsfamiliar5 жыл бұрын
Are you sure he is still your friend after that?
@brian_sipe6 жыл бұрын
6nd Also I'm liking Deathgrip / Lifeforce just because it gives black and green counterspell abilities
@dillonp6184 жыл бұрын
In my play group we used to have a person that would play Stasis, Winter Orb, and Static Orb. Needless to say we banned his deck into oblivion(the person had other problematic cards, and the deck was just to powerful for our playgroup)
@dirtyblonde10116 жыл бұрын
Would Panharmonicon effect Iona's etb ability too? Everyone in my playgroup is saying different things on the matter -_-
@themagicbadgerman6 жыл бұрын
No, there's a subtle difference between 'when X enters the battlefield' and 'as X enters the battlefield'. So in her case, the order of events goes Cast-Resolves-Trigger-Enters, compared to ETBs which go Cast-Resolves-Enters-Trigger.
@Lukluklukable5 жыл бұрын
would mention freezin aether with kismet as is its pretty much the same just in blue :D
@darksorra6 жыл бұрын
Winter orb or stactic orb Why not both? You can untap 2 things but only one can be a land.
@p1k3r_offical5 жыл бұрын
Woo like number 700, lol great information
@lycanthropize18786 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Zu Zu the punisher do the same thing as ankh of mishra
@StormofCrows695 жыл бұрын
I just use both orbs, why not right? I have no friends...
@rickwilley13855 жыл бұрын
Winter orb in a mono colorless eldrazi deck that has a ridiculous amount of mana rocks, boulders, pebbles, dorks, etc
@phyrexiahive94405 жыл бұрын
Winter orb and mana web are must haves against mana decks
@michaelmorris45156 жыл бұрын
Not sure I agree with what your concept of "hate" card. Most of these are grief cards that don't single out a single color or strategy to "hate". What I've always heard called "hate" cards are fairly narrow. Things like Boil, Perish, Blood Moon, etc. that punish a specific color or a specific strategy (non-basic land use). Your list are cards that attack pretty much everything and aren't narrow in the slightest.
@lanan1016 жыл бұрын
Damping Matrix is a nice one
@drewhoffman166 жыл бұрын
Any eldrazi with annhilater, especially emrakul
@willmatheny67554 жыл бұрын
Rhystic Study in my Locust God Deck; strap on the Wheels and go nuts!
@cobra_commander22556 жыл бұрын
This is more of a top Stax cards list than a top hate cards list. Hate cards are things like Rest in Peace, Containment Priest and Stranglehold. You have a few of them, but I wouldn't say things like Winter Orb are hate, they're Stax.
@zenmaster88265 жыл бұрын
They are hate cards because everybody hates em.. :3
@Words-of-encouragement.-.5 жыл бұрын
Saying these cards "aren't hate, they're stax" is like sticking your hand in a fire and saying "it doesn't hurt, it burns". If it's hateful, it's hate.
@54m0h76 жыл бұрын
The Orbs and Stasis are definitely the worst hate/tax cards. Especially painful if they also have an Unwinding Clock or Seedborn Muse as well.
@mattblankenbaker64566 жыл бұрын
Does the Prophet of Kruphix counter those cards
@MrMaxtremo6 жыл бұрын
It seems odd to see Humility receive an honorable mention immediately followed by Kismet which has negligible impact in my opinion. Many decks cannot win through a Humility whereas there are nearly no decks that I know of that are bricked by Kismet. Kismet is a pest to most, causing delay, often nothing more. Humility is absolutely backbreaking to any creature-based themes as well as wincons (such as Lab Man). I have yet to see a Gaddock Teeg meaningfully impact a game. Most decks that favor noncreature spells sport ample spot removal and the decks that favor creature-based strategies remain virtually unaffected. I imagine him being difficult for some mono-blue or Simic builds I suppose, but I personally have yet to see his effect hold any relevance in a game. Rhystic study is a powerful card, but I wouldn't consider it a hate card as it only presents an avenue for a player to be enabled. It isn't a preventative card on its own.
@draxthemsklonst5 жыл бұрын
Solemnity, Song of Titania, Root Maze, Trinisphere, Nether Void, Douse, Thrull Wizard, In the Eye of Chaos and Invoke Prejudice
@dakotamcintire74194 жыл бұрын
Iona, shield of emeria plus helm of the host. 5 turns and the entire table, short of colorless decks, are completely hosed
@chrismarlow95855 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised no one is mentioning Overwhelming Splendor. It's 8 mana but completely disables all their creatures, any artifacts/enchantments with annoying activated abilities, enter battlefield triggers on creatures don't work and they can't even use abilities on spells like cycling or kicker. I guess traditionally commander is a 3+ player format but in 1v1 it's basically a game winner as soon as you play it. Another one I love to use is Sphere of Safety. 5 mana makes it a bit costly for a normal game but in commander that's less of an issue and you only need a couple more enchantments before you start slowing down your opponent lots. Add another enchantment or two and to attack they can't play any spells and can only attack with one creature. It may seem like there's less pay-off for all the work to have enchantments compared to these other hate cards but from my experience playing with it I've found it's incredibly effective at defending you and its ability to go beyond (2) cost makes it far better than ghostly prism for commander.
@TheIhplodur5 жыл бұрын
I agree. In Magic Duels I played against a scarab god deck and he had a full board. Then I played that card and won with one life.
@thomasomstead82366 жыл бұрын
No contamination or Serra ascendent?
@eddieb.85986 жыл бұрын
Serra Ascendant is oppresive??
@Words-of-encouragement.-.5 жыл бұрын
@@eddieb.8598 Nope.
@joshuarobinson8455 жыл бұрын
i took winter orb out of my nath deck, cuz i after awhile thought it was a little to mean
@justinhamm98195 жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite hate card is Sire of insanity. Especially turn one or two it can be devastating
@Jman15646 жыл бұрын
One of my friends used to run Meren of Clan Nel Toth, but he moved away from her when the rest of us started running ALOT of grave hate. And then he made Xenagos infect.....
@54m0h76 жыл бұрын
Meren is a lot of fun but she can be dealt with. She's one of my favourite decks, but mine has some silly things in it like Deranged Hermit. :D Last game I got to play Gray Merchant of Asphodel 3 times in a single turn, killing 2 players and taking the last to 6 life. (Who then died my next turn.)
@TheBlackdragon9365 жыл бұрын
Number 6 should be humility, is does the exact same thing but also makes them 1/1s. That behemoth become a 1/1 with no triggers. With the orb it’s still a 5/5 haste. And void winnower instead of Teeg for number 4 as it turns off all even spells, makes creatures unblockable and it can’t be shocked and killed.
@mitchviele75486 жыл бұрын
Less decks can run it, but contamination is brutal in any black token/recursion builds.
@nakr1236 жыл бұрын
Mitch Viele gets me a win almost every time with my Meren
@jeanegreene3746 жыл бұрын
Would you like to pay (1), or let me draw a card?
@bryanarmstrong89106 жыл бұрын
Magiester of worth is mt favorite hate card but my commander as well
@koboldbiopellet5 жыл бұрын
Now we just need Decklists
@paulziemba78906 жыл бұрын
Humility is easily a better hate card the torpor orb because humility stops creature etb effects(they have no effects as it enters) and nutters most create strategies
@Shadowlink45466 жыл бұрын
Is Iona's third ability permanent?
@54m0h76 жыл бұрын
For as long as she is on the battlefield, yes. She enters, you pick the color, that color can't get cast until she leaves the battlefield. Last time I saw her it was a 1v1 and I was playing mono-green elves.. yea that's a scoop.
@twostepz49824 жыл бұрын
Ensnaring bridge, sanguine blood, all of dmg per draw or 8 rack cards like the rack, ghostly prison, properganda, mind over matter, the lists goes on...
@dandyx126 жыл бұрын
I think older sets are the best sources for hate cards, design have thankfully moved away from it recently, my favourite old school haters are, Eye of Singularity is fun, ruins token decks, usually nukes a handful of mana rocks, Primal Order, stings those fancy $$$ manabases and even nibbling 3-4 a turn adds up, Mana Breach is a fun alternative to Stasis, Contamination is more or less the Iona effect, kind of liked Power Surge till the manaburn change, now Stranglehold is the red hate of choice, honorable mentions for Mana Web and Sands of Time, not particularly potent but like Rhystic will cause the hate to flow
@Shadowof1ife5 жыл бұрын
I made some what hated red green commander deck
@Veiwer775 жыл бұрын
If I sit down and my opponent puts Gaddock teag on the table I'll scoop right then on principle. I and everyone else wants to play commander, not not play. The kind of people who play these kind of decks usually only play once at my LGS, and I never see them again thankfully
@Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God6 жыл бұрын
6:40 Tocatli Honor Guard
@avijeu36 жыл бұрын
I was going to say it but I see someone already mentioned it - how on Earth is Contamination not on this list? If you are ot playing black and cannot respond immediately, you are in big trouble
@MatteBl6kGoat3 жыл бұрын
Humility makes me instant target 😅
@yoitsgunattack6 жыл бұрын
i love hate cards
@r_valkyrie76356 жыл бұрын
I personally hate Insurrection. I have a good board state with lots of creatures, maybe my opponent does too, and with one card he/she steals it all away and I have nothing to block with.
@folferjon4 жыл бұрын
Storm cauldron is a pretty fun hate card
@samuelbanks84996 жыл бұрын
Time to play blue white hate
@jbour8756 жыл бұрын
i think you forgot one. there is a creature that is worse then Iona, and that creature is Void Winnower gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=void%20winnower it does so much more hate then people realize. just call it a Honorable mention I suppose.
@Patchwork_Panner6 жыл бұрын
Galecaster colossus is a frustrating card
@morganleonard81746 жыл бұрын
should have add vorinclex voice of hunger, jin gitaxias core augur, and void winnower. look up that lock out combo. lol. no one can do shit but sit there and watch u win with ease.
@Kilbo3886 жыл бұрын
Humility is better than torpor orb. Humility shuts off *all* abilities, TO only stops etbs.
@srt4tj046 жыл бұрын
Rudy Viner this is true, however torpor orb is easily slotted into more decks than humility can be.
@austinchuilli36525 жыл бұрын
Brago also makes stasis broken with sky diamond
@soontm10325 жыл бұрын
Stasis is broken in quite a few ways my guy. But brago stax is certainly a good deck.
@nickjoseph776 жыл бұрын
I don't think Hall of Gemstones should be lower than Thalia or Kismet. It literally says players who play multiple colors cannot cast more than one color of cards on their turns. Kismet is merely annoying and Thalia is only a tax. That's it.
@Collisto24354 жыл бұрын
Calling Rhystic Study borderline harassment made me laugh too hard.
@josephsmith89474 жыл бұрын
Ritual of the subdual is a big hate. I use it and its way better than hall of gemstones.
@Mythicalreign226 жыл бұрын
Humility ruins slivers
@adderall36766 жыл бұрын
What about altar of the brood?
@schwarzertee75866 жыл бұрын
ok you just can't win against a graveyard strategy if you don't run graveyard hate. unless you go super fast and reliable combos or whatever. as soon as the game goes into turn 5, 6 without you being within winning range then you just can't do anything against all the value commanders like sidisi and meren accumulate.
@thesarcasticliberal4 жыл бұрын
Stasis +Wilderness Reclamation is absolutely degenerate. It essentially locks down the opponent completely while simply moving your untap step for lands to after your end step.
@williamoldaker53485 жыл бұрын
Null rod is stony silence
@noelcactus91786 жыл бұрын
stasis seems broken in a mulldrotha deck
@The_Nerd_King3 жыл бұрын
I Miss iona! Come back Bae!
@josephsulaiman99595 жыл бұрын
wheres leyline
@jambostringo6 жыл бұрын
It's brutal so yeah, very brutal.
@johngutteridge47356 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you have to remind your opponent when you have rhystic study
@wackywong6 жыл бұрын
Yes, you do! As the owner of the trigger you need opponent's permission to draw a card.
@miru0215 жыл бұрын
Hate cards or hated cards ....?
@imGrisky6 жыл бұрын
Humility is zo much worde then torpor orb
@nicholasjohnson69195 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is anyone else annoyed that it's pronounced Thalia(Ta-li-a) and not Thalia(Tha-li-a)
@gageemerson42165 жыл бұрын
he didn’t include Flash/Hulk...haha I piss everybody off with that deck and it’s millions of tutors...
@vantain206 жыл бұрын
Gaddock Teeg plus Void Winnower....
@themagicbadgerman6 жыл бұрын
So, I guess just 3 and 1 cost spells? Where'd I put my vindicate and path...
@Durgenheim4 жыл бұрын
I've always found it interesting that winter orb shuts off lands being able to be untapped, but snow lands exist, and can be untapped each turn as a normal land would.
@Hentai_Akuma6 жыл бұрын
Use Child of Alra as a commander and use them all
@Words-of-encouragement.-.5 жыл бұрын
Easy there Satan
@Zeb19046 жыл бұрын
Let me hit that young “first”
@Supsup5166 жыл бұрын
Orb of dreams > kismet as its artifact and hits all things even yours lmao