Topaz Gigapixel AI CHANGES The Game! (Gigapixel 8 Update)

[@travisfosterart]

Thanks for the update, Wade! Nice presentation.

[@WadeMcMaster]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it, I had fun making it :)

[@59Marcel]

Thanks for doing this tutorial. I've have had Gigapixel for a few months now and it is ok but did not impress me to much. Now with this upgrade and the well demonstrated tutorial that you've provided it is a much better upscaler. Thanks once again.

[@WadeMcMaster]

This was the icing on the cake, especially for AI Art upscales. Redefine can take a lot of time to upscale though, but adding that High Fidelity upscale afterward works quite well after a redefine upscale to enhance the details.

[@iXzenoS]

How is all this different from Photo AI? I thought they were going to deprecate the standalone products like Gigapixel and combine everything into Photo AI? So confused with their product strategy.

[@WadeMcMaster]

I thought that too, then they did this so no idea why. Topaz Photo AI used to have all the gigapixel options but with more - but then they added Redefine to Gigapixel only, not sure why. It does say Beta so maybe it'll be tested here before being added to Photo AI, maybe?

[@mkingscott]

Absolute gold here, thanks for the extremely detailed breakdown 👍

[@WadeMcMaster]

Thank you so much mate! I appreciate the feedback and constructive feedback on some of the other comments. Have fun with it!

[@wilhelmvongloeden]

I'd like to highlight two tips you provide in this tutorial, that I found critical to refining my results: (i) if you're working on a Midjourney-generated image, use the same prompt on Gigapixel; and (ii) reprocess a Redefine-improved/upscaled image using High-Fidelity 👍👍

[@WadeMcMaster]

I'm glad you like those! I work that way and think that it really does help keep the quality under control and maximize resolution without spending hours or days just to upscale an image. Thank you!

[@wilhelmvongloeden]

Extremely useful! Gigapixel 8's Redefine feature is a step forward. Thanx for sharing! I'll keep an eye on your tutorials 🤜🤛

[@WadeMcMaster]

I agree! Redefine is similar to existing upscalers out there, but coupled with the other tools, putting it in one place makes it very solid.

[@pedxing]

now, we get back to basics and use the Redefine model and the original or regularly upscaled image in photoshop with layer masks and blending modes and start painting in the details that you want in the places and spaces that you need. This is the best way (for now) to use your tools to create the most impactful images with the most control.

[@WadeMcMaster]

Totally agree. AI art + good upscaler + Photoshop = limitless potential. For pro artists, designers or any visual creative it's a solid stack and skillset.

[@JasonParkers]

​@@WadeMcMaster yep, all those need to be in our toolkit.

[@WadeMcMaster]

It's a visual creative's superpower :) I'm so happy to hear someone else say it haha

[@pedxing]

@@WadeMcMaster Putting the FUN back in Fundamentals. =)

[@alecubudulecu]

VERY excited to try this out. I’ve been working with diffusion models for years now, and have developed upscaling workflows that can match Magnific in comfyui (in CERTAIN photos. Namely people and human portraits) ….. and I’ve been generally let down by gigapixel thus far. This was what I felt was missing. I’ll try this out tonight and comment here with how it compares.

[@WadeMcMaster]

I agree that this is what was missing! I hope you enjoy it mate :)

[@S....]

Very good and informative video, thank you.

[@WadeMcMaster]

Glad it was helpful! Thank you :)

[@rasserfrasser]

Topaz Gigapixel is phenomenal. I only use 7, don't dare use 8 cuz I'm on a 2015 MBPro which is akin to baking bread with this thing, but I pretty much ignore MJ updates on upscaling for POD. It's so bizarre to me that we now rez up instead of working from large format. Thanks Wade!

[@WadeMcMaster]

Haha yes the industry is flipped on its head in that way! I remember creatign massive photoshop files so I could half the size for the final product. Now we need to constantly upscale lol Honestly, 7 is still amazing without redefine and I would have kept using it even without this feature!

[@gbdr_ps_fan8656]

Absolutely top-notch explanation! Thank you.

[@WadeMcMaster]

Thank you mate!

Great video - did you miss the low res setting on your gen 2 face filter which did morph your right ear (left) into a larger pointy ear of an elf? 😀

[@WadeMcMaster]

I did.. haha man that looks funny. There you go, I'm still learning stuff, thank you

[@umbertomenasci]

You render the upscale locally or in the cloud? Which g. card you use? thanks in advance

[@WadeMcMaster]

I render locally, I tend to do batches when using Redefine due to the longer upscale times. Here's the essentials of what I'm running: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-14700 / 2.10 GHz 64.0 GB Ram Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Running Windows 11

[@nathanarditti9793]

Amazing video, well done !

[@WadeMcMaster]

Thank you for checking it out, I'm glad you liked it!

[@ashutoshgupta8508]

What GPU & VRAM you are using for local rendering? will be helpful in judging the performance as you said it takes 15-20min for local render.

[@WadeMcMaster]

No worries mate, redefine is the main one that seems to take time. Here's the essentials of what I'm running: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-14700 / 2.10 GHz 64.0 GB Ram Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Running Windows 11

[@scitechaiutopia]

Which diffusion model upscaler is the best to locally upscale all the Flux landscape images? I made like 5K+ Flux landscape images so far, but they are too small and I want them to be upscaled to my 4K monitor. All of these upscaling online AI services would cost a bank in many places. Please guide through landscape upscaling locally. For some reason, no upscaler works well for landscapes. Only good natural looking one was Leonardo, which was again heavily paid service. There are many upscaling models but none are producing satisfying results. Should I upscale directly by 4x using a model, or do in steps, or do some combination of models? If so which models? Can you make a local upscaling video in future?

[@WadeMcMaster]

I'd love to help there mate, But I don't run Stable Diffusion locally. With my business & schedule I haven't invested the time to learn it. Have you played with Upscayl? It's free and local

[@MabelYolanda-c9i]

Thanks for the excellent video! A few questions: 1-does it have a seed to use in a batch sequence? 2-have you tried it in a batch sequence to see the consistency? 3-do you think Topaz will bring this diffusion model into the video app? Thanks!

[@WadeMcMaster]

Thank you! To answer your questions: 1-does it have a seed to use in a batch sequence? - no seed option I can find right now 2-have you tried it in a batch sequence to see the consistency? - I haven't but that's a great idea. I have noticed minor difference between the prevew and output though, nothing concerning though. 3-do you think Topaz will bring this diffusion model into the video app? - that would be AMAZING - however I don't believe it will happen anytime soon, although I could be wrong. Thanks!

[@alecubudulecu]

@@WadeMcMaster it’s too low denoise to make seed matter much.

[@WadeMcMaster]

Defintiely true for photos, AI Art rarely has noise. They used to have Topaz DeNoise, that was awesome.

[@eriklauritz]

Great demo! Just what I needed to know.

[@WadeMcMaster]

Thank you!

[@MrPeculiar]

Great presentation, Thanks mate

[@WadeMcMaster]

Appreciate you watching mate! Thank you :)

[@TashaCaufield]

Fantastic!! Normalize Topaz tutorials 🥰... You did a great job. Thanks 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@WadeMcMaster]

I always intended on doing many but just get caught up lol. Thank you very much, I will make sure I create more :)

[@TashaCaufield]

@@WadeMcMaster Thanks 🥰

[@eyewisdom6973]

Can you do comparison between Gigapixel and Photo AI?

[@WadeMcMaster]

That is a plan! I have a few topaz videos lined up (that being one of them)

[@youMEtubeUK]

So this won’t fix faces from ai generated images ? Like upscale in Leonardo ai or KREA ?

[@WadeMcMaster]

It does in that way. But for fixing faces made with AI, I'd also consider GFPGan

[@danthadon87]

What are the min computer requirements so it doesn't take 10 min or longer to generate?

[@WadeMcMaster]

Not sure sorry mate. Redefine and Recovery take about 15 mins on my computer, which is: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-14700 / 2.10 GHz 64.0 GB Ram Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Running Windows 11 So it may need to be a pretty high level computer with top range NVidia Graphics card. I know it will speed up over time as hardware improves. For now, I recommend setting up batches when you can leave your machine if you find it's a bit too slow.

[@MrWanted000]

I am trying the Redefine feature but the image doesn't finish:/ I am on a Mac

[@WadeMcMaster]

I've had it happen few times where the progress bar sits at full for a decent amount of time before actually finishing. It may need more time. How long have you left it?

[@MrWanted000]

@@WadeMcMaster like 30-40min, how long usually an image would take if using the redefined feature? and btw I am doing 8x upscale, I am trying it on a very low image.

[@WadeMcMaster]

Ah yeah fair enough. I run 4x mostly, takes 15 minutes or so. once the images if at at least 4000 x 400px (or similar, depending on aspect ratio), I run a basic upscale (High Fidelity) on the new image and it does a great job. 8x is a tough one to get through with redefine unfortunately.

[@xesentertainment]

I have it yet tried this I'm curious if this is similar to magnifica or Krea

[@WadeMcMaster]

I think this upscaler is a response to the upscalers like Magnific, so it is similar in nature. I want to add thought that basic upscalers, coupled with this make it the best stack imo - as you can add a tonne of detail, get a decent sized image, then use high fidelity or another basic upscaler to get it up to that next level size which doesn't require insane intricate details. So the total package is what sells it for me - until then I used to use Leonardo Ai's universal upscaler (simialr ot magnific and krea, and sometimes I still will use it), then Id bring that image into topaz for the second step.

[@simont733]

What is your computer specification to render the pictures fast

[@WadeMcMaster]

Hey mate, here's the essentials of what I'm running: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-14700 / 2.10 GHz 64.0 GB Ram Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Running Windows 11

[@chariots8x230]

6:53 As far as the creativity level goes, it would be helpful if we could use masking to be able to apply different levels of creativity to different parts of the image. Some parts of the image might look better with a higher level of detail, while other parts like the eyes in this case don’t look so great with so much added detail. For example, the eye in this image looks distorted on the generations that have more detail. On the higher detail version, for some reason, the iris size has been made smaller, and there are these strange striated lines on the white part of the eye that appear to be radiating from the iris. There should be no lines like that on the white part of the eye.

[@armondtanz]

I do this all time. I place them on layers in photoshop then delete the annoying parts that have gone tol far. There may be free alternatives to photoshop. All you need is an app that has layers and an erase tool.

[@WadeMcMaster]

I had the same thought! I wonder how difficult it would be to do that. At the moment I've accepted I'd have to Photoshop different upscale together but hopefully in the future this gets sorted.

[@gotenks157]

Could this all not be done for free with stable diffusion and upscale models?

[@WadeMcMaster]

The redefine model could be with Stable Diffusion, if you have the time and patience to set it up and learn it then definitely! I lot of professionals however are too busy and a program like this is a lot more efficient, even when paying. When I was younger I used to bootstrap everything but now I'm a lot older and busier, in my business it's more profitable to just pay for someone to simplify this process in an easy interface. However, the Basic models and recover model, which have particular uses that Redefine just doesn't work well for, are exclusive to Topaz Gigapixel & Topaz Photo AI

[@gotenks157]

@@WadeMcMaster IDK, Stable diffusion can literally be installed with a script and 2 clicks, upscale installed and ready. And for simplicity, just choose InvokeAI.

[@mattc3510]

Nice video thanks, if I buy gigapixel 8 I get gigapixel AI for free?

[@WadeMcMaster]

Yeah definitely. I use both terms in the description for KZbin search, but Gigapixel AI / Gigapixel 8 are referring to the same program.

[@nectar75]

Is this available in Topaz Photo AI? or just Gigapixel. I just jumped from Gigapixel to Photo AI, but I wonder if I should ahve just stayed with Gigapixel.

[@CPUGaming]

Photo AI is better other than not having this.

[@WadeMcMaster]

Yeah photo AI has more features except it doesn't have this one upscaler (yet?)

[@brazzilianboy]

Impressive, but boy, you will need a high end videocard for this AI feature. Nice video!!

[@WadeMcMaster]

Yeah definitely. I ran a few overnight batches for this video haha. But results are insane. Thank you mate

[@Patrick-vi9xr]

Is this possible to do at local machine or all this effects only in cloud?

[@WadeMcMaster]

Local is possible, takes a chunk of time tho. Full images are 15mins for me (going from 1080x1080 roughly, using 4x)

[@Patrick-vi9xr]

​@@WadeMcMaster Testing it, recover mode is super slow and effect is rather bad in most cases, but refine mode is not bad, with 1080x1080, for refine it takes 2-3 mins mostly(on RTX 3090), giving acceptable results.

[@scotthjohnson1558]

Very helpful...thank you for this.

[@WadeMcMaster]

You're welcome, glad it helped!

[@swhib]

Excellent video

[@WadeMcMaster]

Thank you very much!

[@Emulives]

and "focus" a blur image? Any tool recomended?

[@devnull_]

Topaz puts those features in their other product, i.e. Photo AI

[@WadeMcMaster]

You could experiment with sharpen setting under advanced or as devnull_ pointed out, photo AI has a focus function - but you miss out on the redefine upscaler

[@syntheticfauna]

Excellent video!

[@WadeMcMaster]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much!

[@simont733]

Magnify vs topaz which one you choose and why

[@WadeMcMaster]

I do need to try magnific more indepth, however I like that topaz runs locally so I dont have a limit on number of upscales ( plus the basic upscales are great for getting that maximized image). Also, I can't remember my PC specs and am not going to be near it for a couple of days so I'll let you know. Also the upscaling in the video is edited so people dont have to watch it. Each redefine upscale is 15 mins or so

[@moserphotoworks]

I decided to upgrade from version 7 after watching the new generative models-really impressive results on display. But when I tried it on my own setup, it was a huge letdown. Even using the 1080x1080 Midjourney image, I couldn’t get past the preview to do anything remotely creative. It’s just not usable. I haven't tried the cloud-based option yet, but honestly, I’m not looking for another pay-as-you-go setup just to process images. The Basic models here are fantastic, but the generative models feel half-baked-Topaz still has some work to do.

[@WadeMcMaster]

I'm sorry to hear that mate. It does take some time to render the previews and final images, it's shame it takes so much processing power to do. But if it helps, I've had luck copying the base image a few times and just setting it up multiple times (same prompt) with suffering creativity levels and just left it while I did something else. If it takes a long time on your computer that's a potential solution. I also wouldnt go over 4x using redefine if you have trouble also

[@moserphotoworks]

@@WadeMcMaster Thanks for the tip, Wade. I contacted their support and they mentioned there is a Beta bug with Radeon cards (Mac user) and Redefine so they are currently working the issue. It's great Topaz are constantly updating the program.

[@fabianoperes2155]

​@WadeMcMaster What is your GPU and low long does it take for one upscale? this information would help A LOT!

[@WadeMcMaster]

That's awesome! Glad to hear that :)

[@WadeMcMaster]

No problem: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-14700 / 2.10 GHz 64.0 GB Ram Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Running Windows 11

[@megadigitalart-d4s]

Redefine takes a long time to render images. 6144x6144p/x. PNG. It says the file size is 998.6MB at 300dpi. My PC is very fast but this does take a long time, so beware.

[@WadeMcMaster]

Yeah, I definitely recommend batches, let it go overnight if rendering locally. I run 10 or so images overnight if I need to

[@megadigitalart-d4s]

@@WadeMcMaster Wade, I have run into a problem with version 8 on the redefine. Placing a PNG with a transparent background, it either comes back with a white background or a strange looking background. Maybe you can try to use a transparent background using redefine?

[@WadeMcMaster]

Oh that makes sense tho, as most AI generators can't generate transparency. Hopefully they can work on an alpha mask solution in the future.

[@ScadooshGoat]

I don't understand the difference between Photo AI and Gigapixel? I've got Photo AI but Gigapixel looks way better and is half the price...

[@CPUGaming]

@@ScadooshGoat Photo AI is better because it incorporates all of the individual tools like upscaling, denoiser, deblur, etc. Only thing it doesn't have over gigapixel is this new AI upscaler. Hopefully it'll come to photo ai at some point.

[@WadeMcMaster]

I agree with @CPUGaming it is better, they just need this upscaler which I think is only a matter of time.

[@AntoniosArampatzis]

Does redefine use internet?

[@WadeMcMaster]

You have the option for local or cloud. Cloud does cost, local takes a bit of time (15 mins an image on my end)

[@peterson61]

so..Photo AI or Gigapixel? Unsure here

[@WadeMcMaster]

This is currently only in Gigapixel, so if you were choosing today, I'd go with Gigapixel.

[@zacharyshort384]

Photo AI does upscaling but it's a general purpose app. If you just want upscaling then Gigapixel without a doubt. Photo AI is lovely though...especially if you don't have Nik Collection and other Topaz plugins ;)

[@shaunhines875]

@@zacharyshort384 I've got Nik collection so will see if it needs updating and, if so, what's been addd. Gigapixel looks great though (might even save some awful results generated by my iPhone's RAW files?)

[@WadeMcMaster]

Do it! give it a go mate :)

[@1Know1tHurts]

It is fascinating how Australians say "Peower", "Draring", etc

[@WadeMcMaster]

How drare you.

[@scitechaiutopia]

Way too expensive and inefficient though, like many AI tools.

[@WadeMcMaster]

If you're in a creative industry the prices are nothing. I pay $80 a month (not per year) for adobe creative cloud - and many professionals do who could add this into their workflow

[@andydragonfisher6900]

Haters gonna hate 🤷‍♂️

[@zacharyshort384]

What do you mean by inefficient? In terms of comparing it to other AI upscaelers.

[@aashay]

@@WadeMcMaster Exactly 💯💯

[@ModulerDrone]

We’re using this professionally with zero issues. The tool is amazing and this update is fantastic. It does alot on it s own but like everything in life you have put your own weigth to get the best results

[@theworkofjar]

This might be a Magnifique killer!

[@WadeMcMaster]

I reckon so. The fact you can upscale locally, in bulk and are therefore not restricted by the credit system is a big one.

[@TPCDAZ]

@@WadeMcMaster But it does cost $99 with an additional $64 yearly renewal cost if you want updates to the software

[@WadeMcMaster]

Yeah, which is still a lot cheaper than magnific. Plus you only pay the renewal for upgrades, if you're happy with the version you download you don't need to renew.

[@TPCDAZ]

@@WadeMcMaster That's very true.

[@wholeness]

Remember Magnific adds latent noise and changes other elements such as blob in the background that is supposed to be a face into a decent face. Gigawill not do this it will only upscale the blob.

[@TrunxKraft3000]

This may act strange on an M3 running Sonoma. Also, Upscayler is way better than Topaz Giga pixel, and it’s free.

[@WadeMcMaster]

I've tried upscayl indepth, I don't see how it can be conaidered better other than cost

[@TrunxKraft3000]

@ Again, maybe it’s just the M3 or Os I’m on, but Gaga pixel acts very buggy on my machine, and though there are more “presets” than Upscayl, the basic job of upscaling seems to be more noticeable.

[@WadeMcMaster]

Could be, there's so many variables though too. To be fair against my response, Upscayl may also produce results preferable to you and/or the types of images you upscale. Nothing is every quite that black and white.

[@TrunxKraft3000]

@ True.

[@Jamie-666]

Available for Topaz Photo AI?

[@WadeMcMaster]

I have the latest version of Photo AI and it's not in there. They probably will in the future but not right now unfortunately.

[@Jamie-666]

@@WadeMcMaster Fingers crossed then!! Thanks for the reply😁

[@meady200]

It'd be useful for me from time to time. If they sold tokens for its use I'd buy. But no, its has to be locking you into a subscription model doesn't it? And not even monthly, but annually. Screw them.

[@mkingscott]

I've just got $54 for the year, $4.50 a month...

[@xesentertainment]

It's not that expensive and being locked into a subscription basically means if you don't buy the monthly pass you don't get access this you actually get the version you buy for the year and if you're happy with the current version you don't have to keep buying a monthly subscription you can keep using the software so this is a much better deal

[@WadeMcMaster]

100%, I never use cloud and my computer is nothing special. I pay once a year and to be honest, most years I haven't needed the renewal - I just have anyway because it's really not much per year, especially ifyou're running a business. However, there are alternatives if this isn't for you. Upscayl is free - qualtiy is nowhere near the samew as this but incredibly useful if you are budget conscious.

[@k3nl4w]

Enhance!!

[@WadeMcMaster]

I can imagine some NCIS episode or something where someone gets convicted over fake AI upscale artifacts haha

[@avileximacdaddymemes]

If only it wasn’t 100 dollars

[@WadeMcMaster]

Yeah I get it man, not everyone can had that money over. But the funding of the program is what makes it possible too. Have you checked out Upscayl? Its not the same level as this, but it is a powerful free alternative.

[@LouisGedo]

👋 hi

[@WadeMcMaster]

Hey mate!

[@jeffkingston67]

Looks disgusting though

[@WadeMcMaster]

That may just be my taste in images ;) haha

[@edwardferry8247]

This uses about 20GB of RAM even generating a small preview. you need minimum 32 gig even on M3 pro Macs to make this remotely bearable locally. If you have very powerful hardware it works, like running Flux 1.1 locally but without it you are going to be paying a lot to process these via the cloud. Topaz are charging a lot to run redefine via the cloud. Although the models do what they say you need serious hardware or else the $99 is just the entrance fee to the new features. Magnific have set the price bar and Topaz look set to follow.

[@WadeMcMaster]

It does take some processing power, but you can line a few up and process them overnight or plan it out . I do agree though, a good computer is what will make it more usable. If you're in a creative business that uses this technology its not massive cost. I remember many times charging $75ish just to upscale an image in Photoshop for a client, trying to tidy up the process and get it looking decent and this is way better and faster

[@zacharyshort384]

I do AI upscaling every day with diffusion models on a 1070Ti ;)

[@WadeMcMaster]

That's awesome! I have no doubt I could work my way around those tools, as it would be extremely convenient and low cost to do. As I (and many others) have gotten older though with business, kids, staying fit, etc - dedicating time to learn those things can be not worth it and these platforms simplify the entry. Everyone's needs are different, and this is literally built on that technology. Do you use ComfyUI?