FIRST DRIVE: Alpine A290 - New Hot Hatch Champion?

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@TopGear
@TopGear 6 күн бұрын
What do you think: is the new Alpine A290 the car to save the hot hatch?
@JaapRood
@JaapRood 6 күн бұрын
I sure hope so. Either this or the Mini. I’m ready for a way more engaging drive after years in something with double the power and way more range, but also so boring.
@neelsduplessis1591
@neelsduplessis1591 6 күн бұрын
Nope.
@burkaanc
@burkaanc 6 күн бұрын
stopped being interested after "front wheel drive" not interesting in wrong wheel drive cars, there is no reason for evs to be wrong wheel drive and only 0.3 sec faster to 100kmh than my volvo estate
@wiggly1
@wiggly1 6 күн бұрын
Do you just say the car is "well priced" in the video conclusion?! £38k for a relatively weedy 217hp. That's hardly affordable fun for the masses, probably the most key characteristic of a hot hatch.
@notjoevaping9600
@notjoevaping9600 6 күн бұрын
@@burkaanc use your brain, it's a hatchback. Front wheel drive is very much standard for hatchbacks.
@BenGoodbrand
@BenGoodbrand 6 күн бұрын
38K? They'll sell tens of these!
@thejfg7741
@thejfg7741 6 күн бұрын
People buy on finance and monthly affordability. The actual price of the car is rarely what people pay. You’ve been slightly caught out in not understanding that.
@BenGoodbrand
@BenGoodbrand 6 күн бұрын
@thejfg7741 come back after these have been on sale for a year and tell me who's been caught out.
@thejfg7741
@thejfg7741 6 күн бұрын
@ but that’s not what I am saying. People don’t walk into a dealer and pay the asking price… lease or PCP is how they own the car. That’s the crucial point. If it’s 40k but the monthly price is affordable, then people will buy it.
@BenGoodbrand
@BenGoodbrand 6 күн бұрын
@@thejfg7741 my comment stands. They will sell so few of these that any argument over paying upfront or through finance is moot. A sale is a sale regardless of how or when the payments are made. People are not as silly as you think...they can still see value, or lack thereof.
@thejfg7741
@thejfg7741 6 күн бұрын
@ but your original point was about the actual entire cost. Which is not how most people buy vehicles. You can for example lease an ID Buzz for relatively reasonable monthly payments because the lease is based on residuals. And the Buzz is a 60k vehicle potentially. If you’re now saying they won’t sell many of these, that o don’t know. I’d buy one personally but the real world range will be below 200 and that would be my main gripe
@paulhancock
@paulhancock 6 күн бұрын
Would I take one over a GR Yaris? Absolutely not but it's a step in the right direction and it's a really cool and desirable object... Not just a soulless electrical appliance. Good job!
@ll01dm
@ll01dm 6 күн бұрын
GR yaris has a huge waiting list and is 11k more tho. I'm not sure if they are in the same category
@thedirtyscotTV
@thedirtyscotTV 6 күн бұрын
@@ll01dm Agreed, not the same category. I do think this particular car is priced a wee bit too high, and it's not a hot hatch. If this is a hot hatch with 150hp per ton then an MX-5 is fast in a straight line with 145hp per ton.
@Ellis01234567890
@Ellis01234567890 6 күн бұрын
If it's electric it is most definitely NOT a step in the right direction. The futre should be efuels. Not electirc cars that have less than 10 year useable lifespans. Not saying that electric cars don't have a place, just saying they cn't possibly be the future.
@heyanewsunset6713
@heyanewsunset6713 6 күн бұрын
​@@ll01dmFor the price of a Yaris GR you can even buy two Alpine A290's in my country so buying a hot hatch on petrol is hardly an option anymore.
@martinogold
@martinogold 6 күн бұрын
@@heyanewsunset6713 That's a sensible country. EVs are the way to go.
@dominicrusho
@dominicrusho 6 күн бұрын
ABSOLUTE GARBAGe it should have a V12 with 1000BHP and cost £8k max 👎
@magnustan841
@magnustan841 5 күн бұрын
@@dominicrusho haha! Dream on
@mikedelicus
@mikedelicus 5 күн бұрын
…and it should offer 3.000 km range and 5 tons towing capacity
@GolfGti-g8x
@GolfGti-g8x 4 күн бұрын
😂😂
@existentialselkath1264
@existentialselkath1264 6 күн бұрын
So it's power, 0-60, and weight, is comparable to a Nissan leaf, but it's almost 40k! How is this a hot hatch?
@thesupremekai1980s
@thesupremekai1980s 6 күн бұрын
This is accurate.
@magnustan841
@magnustan841 6 күн бұрын
I don't know, how about trying to chuck a Leaf around some bends at speed? I don't think it'll be very nice and does it have the brakes to cope?
@VictorioLopes
@VictorioLopes 6 күн бұрын
​@magnustan841 unfortunately "enthusiasts" nowaday only care about power and 0-60.
@ChR0nos_7734
@ChR0nos_7734 6 күн бұрын
better (stiffer) suspension, better brakes, better standard tires,....
@GreatistheWorld
@GreatistheWorld 6 күн бұрын
yeah but you’re leaving out the leaf kinda sucks and is a Nissan
@homiefizzle5260
@homiefizzle5260 6 күн бұрын
217 HP for £33k is ridiculous, I know power isn't everything, but it's not like it's offering a super engaging experience either...
@shittysolutions
@shittysolutions 6 күн бұрын
38k for 217hp, not 33k :(
@wiryantirta
@wiryantirta 6 күн бұрын
I mean 217hp would've been plenty in a hot hatch that weighs like an actual hot hatch from ten years ago.
@matthewcoleman8267
@matthewcoleman8267 6 күн бұрын
You only get 178bhp for the 33k, you need to spend 38k for the 'full' 217bhp.
@thedirtyscotTV
@thedirtyscotTV 6 күн бұрын
​@@wiryantirta Yep, it needs more power as it weighs 1500kg. With that weight, this is luke warm at best due to poor power to weight ratio.
@JaapRood
@JaapRood 6 күн бұрын
You buy an engaging and fun drive, not a horsepower figure, with this Alpine.
@oskar6661
@oskar6661 6 күн бұрын
You hinted at why in your first sentence...the "affordable" part. No modern "hot hatch" approaches being affordable. Companies all got carried away with performance, expensive seats, huge wheels, expensive tires, tech, fancy lighting/interiors, power figures, etc.
@TheImperfectGuy
@TheImperfectGuy 6 күн бұрын
The death of Suzuki Swift Sport absolutely demolished the lasting bastion
@Giuliana-w1f
@Giuliana-w1f 5 күн бұрын
I'd trade off all of the fancy stuff for lower weight and price. I don't want electric adjustable heated/cooled seats, i want a sporty car
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 3 күн бұрын
It amazes me how many people completely forget about inflation. Guess what a 2003 VW GTI started at? $19k. Guess what a 2024 GTI starts at? $32k. Guess what $19k in 2004 is in 2024? $32k. The prices have literally only followed inflation. They are just as affordable now as they were 20 years ago. Sounds like you should be complaining about your job? Real estate, on the other hand, has NOT followed inflation, so in that sense, it does affect what cats you CAN afford.
@TheImperfectGuy
@TheImperfectGuy 3 күн бұрын
@billymays7210 you addressed the cost of housing problem already and hinted at wage usually not being up to speed with inflation. Both of contributes that the "if you account for inflation cars are technically cheaper now" argumentative falls apart from average Joe's perspective. If you can't afford it be you're already getting screwed up two ends, you don't care that the higher price technically represents less value! It's still not affordable
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 3 күн бұрын
@@TheImperfectGuy First of all, I didn’t say they are cheaper now. Second, I am an average Joe, and a brand new GTI was a massive purchase for me in 2004, but a brand new GTI in 2024 isn’t too bad at all. My wages have kept up with inflation, which any good job should do at the very least. Where I live, the GTI went up roughly 70% in the last 2 decades. Minimum wage has gone up roughly 140% in the same span. Housing affordability is a different story as it is really dependent on timing. (Luck) Where I live, houses were the same price in 1990 as they were in 2000, with massive fluctuations in between. Houses were the same price in 2007 as they were in 2017, with massive fluctuations in between.
@LorenzoTuratti
@LorenzoTuratti 6 күн бұрын
If there was an Alpine version planned since the beginning, why wasn't the R5 built with a rear-engine/rear-wheel drive? With an EV, everything is simpler, and the Alpine would have made much more sense
@chenille28
@chenille28 6 күн бұрын
They did that with the Twingo, and it's shitty to drive. In Europe, 99% of the people have no idea how to handle a rear wheel driven car. So it was a more sensible choice to stick with the front wheel drive. Which is sad, because I'm looking for a fun affordable sport car with rear wheel drive and there is... only the Mazda MX-5. And it is now about as expensive as this Alpine, with 40bhp less (but 400kg lighter)...
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 6 күн бұрын
@@chenille28 But VW ID.3 and Cupra Born are Rear Motor RWD. Quite sure those are for Europe, they don't even sell them in North America.
@boazspronk3819
@boazspronk3819 6 күн бұрын
The original renault 5 alpine was fwd as well, so it makes sense imo
@yousausage
@yousausage 6 күн бұрын
Imagine how many people would die with that being RWD?
@tiagobelo4965
@tiagobelo4965 6 күн бұрын
​@@yousausagenot many, its an EV with TC, ESC, all the fancy shmancy stability stuff smarts were extemely short, rear engined and rear wheel drive, and they weren't dangerous in any way
@IncoG8
@IncoG8 6 күн бұрын
Not a bad looking thing, but i like the look, of the front, of the normal Renault 5, way better. Those X running lights on the Alpine, just looks off, and the missing Renault badge too. The normal wide daytime running lights on the stock Renault 5 is spot on.
@TheImperfectGuy
@TheImperfectGuy 6 күн бұрын
those X lights might work if you they'd have to a round frame, but I guess no one dares to put some as outwardly cute as round eyes on a perform version these days
@pipimontana
@pipimontana 6 күн бұрын
6.5 seconds? 😂 Numb steering? 😂 High floor? 😂 I think the i3 was ahead of its time
@ThaDutchDK1989
@ThaDutchDK1989 6 күн бұрын
Wow a EV geek I see only obsessed with 0-60 🤦‍♂️ you to clock you re on the toilet ? And a i3 has bicycle size tyres . These are 2 the size in width . Who wants a i3 anyway 🤣
@pipimontana
@pipimontana 6 күн бұрын
@@ThaDutchDK1989 the i3 came to market 2013... DK? dumb kiddie? 1989? You clock coming too early?
@pipimontana
@pipimontana 6 күн бұрын
@@ThaDutchDK1989 your fathers could have raised you better
@blanchimont5587
@blanchimont5587 6 күн бұрын
@@ThaDutchDK1989 actually the i3 was a pretty good car for what it was, it was not trying to be a sports car. watch jayemm on cars review on it, he covers it well
@pipimontana
@pipimontana 6 күн бұрын
@@blanchimont5587 mass produced composite, 2013, now ancient battery technology, designed and decided 2010, great door design. the dutch boy from '89 doesn't get it.
@kindface
@kindface 6 күн бұрын
And its little brother, the Renault in yellow absolutely nailed it in aethestics too for 10 grand less.
@deadkemper
@deadkemper 6 күн бұрын
he said that at the end.
@magnustan841
@magnustan841 6 күн бұрын
Can’t wait for solid state batteries, but i think Renault and Alpine did a very nice job from everything I’ve seen. It’s looks great, is a good size, not too expensive for 2024 and power figures are just about right. 220hp doesn’t sound like much but I imagine that electric torque will make it feel very fast. The Corsa-e that my family rents using car sharing from time to time feels mega quick for a small hatch and it only has around 140hp and 250Nm.
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 5 күн бұрын
It's stupidly overpriced and not very.... hot. Hardly even lukewarm.
@SayakMajumder
@SayakMajumder 6 күн бұрын
hate to say it but .. .small and fast might be the ideal combo for hot ev hatch in future but wish they did an ICE Alpine hot-hatch
@albertperks3476
@albertperks3476 6 күн бұрын
Love the sound, it looks great to. That must be the first EV I've seen that I thought I would actually like to own.
@ifirebolti2789
@ifirebolti2789 6 күн бұрын
*So:* - It costs similar to a 2023 Audi S3 (8Y) w/
@dirtyfl0w
@dirtyfl0w 5 күн бұрын
new S3 costs way more than the alpine, so you cannot compare it
@ifirebolti2789
@ifirebolti2789 5 күн бұрын
@dirtyfl0w to be perfectly honest, new for new, you’re right, and I didn’t realise how expensive they’d been priced for this model year! I’ll requalify my statement with the caveat of a 2023 S3 w/
@lptomtom
@lptomtom 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, but then you should wait to see depreciation on the A290 too: how much will it cost after 4000 miles?
@GolfGti-g8x
@GolfGti-g8x 4 күн бұрын
😂😂
@UKTopGun
@UKTopGun 3 күн бұрын
You can buy a Ferrari for £35k This post is dumb
@Flared
@Flared 6 күн бұрын
I still think making this the hot version of the new R5 instead of an homage to the mid-engine Turbo seems like a missed opportunity to me.
@ThePedroDB
@ThePedroDB 6 күн бұрын
Agreed. The 3 seat prototype with mid mounted Battery and an engine on each rear wheel could have been very special. The A290 isn't much more than a cosmetic makeover. Fit an R5 with a set of coilovers and you're pretty much there...
@Flared
@Flared 6 күн бұрын
@@ThePedroDB I'd forgotten about the Turbo 3E concept! It was also co-developed with Ligier if I remember correctly. Apparently the Renault boss has mentioned that they could make a limited run of road versions if it made financial sense, which usually means that it wont happen.
@Razormindsplace
@Razormindsplace 5 күн бұрын
The original "sport" variant of the R5 was the R5 Alpine, from an "heritage" stand point it makes sense (even if they just went full Alpine this time). Beside, the EV R5 and by extension the A290 both use design cues from the Turbo, and Renault current CEO wants to bring back the Turbo anyway.
@marcakko2010
@marcakko2010 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for thr review nice to watch . For perspective the cupra born 230eboost weights is 1840kg so this alpine is 340kg lighter so Renault have done well to save that much weight thats like 4 medium adults lighter so definitely going in the right direction . The bmw i3s weights 1365kg and that has skinny tyres and very thin seats and full carbon fiber structure so Renault have done well . I do think though once the 4wd version of this alpine comes out with around 300bhp+ that will be the one to watch for sure as this front wheel drive version doesn't seams spicy enough for most people spending thet kind of cash.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 6 күн бұрын
There is the awesome Cupra Born VZ which is 320 hp just to the REAR Wheels. You don't need AWD BEV to have fun in the corners. That seems like the best recipe for a Hot Hatch. I don't care it's correct wheel drive, it doesn't need to be FWD to be a fun Hot Hatch.
@CoppertopFPV
@CoppertopFPV 6 күн бұрын
​@@Neojhun but its a cupra so itll try to crash every 5 seconds with its idiotic safety features and if it doesnt youll crash trying to reset the infotainment that has died or from looking at what the latest bong warning light on the speedi is telling you. Modern cupra is as far from a fun car as is possible
@SabotsLibres
@SabotsLibres 6 күн бұрын
The first Clio RS was a 138PS sub 1-tonne, sub 8-second hot-hatch. Now over thirty years later, the A290 GTS weighs over 50% more, and therefore needs nearly 60% more power to drop the 0-62 acceleration another 1½ seconds...
@junkfoodeater
@junkfoodeater 6 күн бұрын
Really cool car for 10k less than a GTi i only wish it wasn't an EV. They could have put the old Megane RS engine and dif in this that would have been lovely
@liamjohnhawkins4212
@liamjohnhawkins4212 5 күн бұрын
A Golf GTI doesn’t cost 10k more though, it costs about the same.
@neilwheel
@neilwheel 6 күн бұрын
It's battery powered. It will NEVER, EVER be "hot" - unless the battery catches fire.
@luistiago5121
@luistiago5121 6 күн бұрын
lol
@ewadge
@ewadge 6 күн бұрын
Yawn. Closed minded much!!??
@neilwheel
@neilwheel 6 күн бұрын
@ewadge No. Quite the opposite in fact. That's why I'm able to call bullshit on the green agenda, the SDG scam & other assorted climate grifters and not be brainwashed
@r6scrubs126
@r6scrubs126 6 күн бұрын
boomer spotted
@neilwheel
@neilwheel 6 күн бұрын
@r6scrubs126 yeah, you'd better get back into your climate fallout shelter...
@westwalian1018
@westwalian1018 6 күн бұрын
I drive a Polo GTI (2023) which has the same performance as the Alpine, and looks very similar in shape and size. The Polo too has that level of refinement for normal driving conditions as well as the grunt factor. Mine cost £28k last year, and the Alpine is £38k. I think for £38k I'd want something extra - perhaps more acceleration. EVs need to get cheaper.
@russhawker1718
@russhawker1718 3 күн бұрын
what car give the Polo GTI just 2 stars. Has grunt but doesn't drive like a hot hatch. This Alpine would eat the Polo for breakfast in the twisty stuff.
@YanalFanio
@YanalFanio 6 күн бұрын
The music slaps, great choice!
@Kenneth-1900
@Kenneth-1900 4 күн бұрын
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@richardwagner6359
@richardwagner6359 4 күн бұрын
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@BrianWMoore
@BrianWMoore 4 күн бұрын
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@andrewtingate6658
@andrewtingate6658 2 күн бұрын
As far as being a hot hatch goes, it seems like it does it well. The days of 1.6 turbos are gone sadly but this and the ioniq 5 N are only the beginning of electric hot hatches and im actually happy they're trying it, instead of just killing them off.
@richieduck67
@richieduck67 6 күн бұрын
38000 quid? No way Jose
@helipeek2736
@helipeek2736 6 күн бұрын
Surely it’s no way “Nicole”?
@peterdevreter
@peterdevreter 6 күн бұрын
Why not? The golf 3 VR6 was also very expensive and nobody complained back then.
@GolfGti-g8x
@GolfGti-g8x 4 күн бұрын
You are joking?? The vr6 was an absolute beast back in 1992 sounded amazing it was worth 19 grand back then. Tbis libtard piece of junk needs to be put in the bin.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 3 күн бұрын
@@peterdevreterThe Golf could keep up with the competition…
@alexisbendelamousseauchocolat
@alexisbendelamousseauchocolat 6 күн бұрын
I enjoy watching Jack Rix version of TG. Of course, his team. Thank you BBC.
@abysoon
@abysoon 6 күн бұрын
What's with the cup holders obsession ? It seems that's a typical British/American need.
@tubejorrit
@tubejorrit 6 күн бұрын
indeed, I just put water in a bottle and trow it on the passenger seat or door pockets.
@Blo0dyMustard
@Blo0dyMustard 6 күн бұрын
Not only them, but also every normal human being
@r6scrubs126
@r6scrubs126 6 күн бұрын
@@tubejorrit you put it on the passenger seat and then the first time you go round a corner or brake hard it falls off...
@tubejorrit
@tubejorrit 6 күн бұрын
@@r6scrubs126 I can drive for 2 or more hours without the need to sip on a cup or bottle
@DaveSpecC
@DaveSpecC 6 күн бұрын
@@tubejorrit so you're the reason for the smell at Leeming Bar services.
@ivogievski
@ivogievski 3 күн бұрын
Not making this RWD was a missed opportunity imo. Yeah, hot hatches were almost always FWD, but because of engineering constraints. In this case, it would make the car way more desirable, while being easy to implement.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 3 күн бұрын
Exactly. So pointless.
@rudymwaurah
@rudymwaurah 6 күн бұрын
1500kg for a hot hatch? You're having a laugh.
@joeynessily
@joeynessily 6 күн бұрын
Same weight as the Golf GTI
@rudymwaurah
@rudymwaurah 6 күн бұрын
@joeynessily yes, and? STILL grossly overweight for a hot hatch. For reference, an Evo 9, is 1400kg.
@rudymwaurah
@rudymwaurah 6 күн бұрын
@@JingleBombzz "weight doesn't really matter as much as it did then" 😂😂😂😂😂 made my evening, thank you.
@DaveSpecC
@DaveSpecC 6 күн бұрын
@@JingleBombzz weight always matters.
@HMoyn215
@HMoyn215 5 күн бұрын
Did you see that ludicrous display
@dgood911
@dgood911 5 күн бұрын
That’s a great review. Really good presenting!
@helipeek2736
@helipeek2736 6 күн бұрын
220bhp? 6.4 seconds? Nearly 1.5 tonnes? Hot isn’t the word that I would consider is apt - TEPID yes but, HOT no way!
@on_wheels_80
@on_wheels_80 6 күн бұрын
That OV button is about the most glaring safety hazard I've ever seen in a car. I just don't understand anymore what is necessary or allowed to be street legal.
@nickd86
@nickd86 6 күн бұрын
Why? It does the same job as the foot pedal
@on_wheels_80
@on_wheels_80 6 күн бұрын
@@nickd86 Yeah, but nobody is used to a button on the steering wheel that does full acceleration.
@imaweerascal
@imaweerascal 5 күн бұрын
@@nickd86 It's difficult to accidentally floor the throttle, but I can see someone accidentally pressing that button
@derkretschesven
@derkretschesven 6 күн бұрын
38K, 6.5s, 217hp??? I get the feeling that the older combustion Hot Hatches were superior in every aspect. A young Fiesta ST would be still my way to go
@ThePedroDB
@ThePedroDB 6 күн бұрын
Exactly. I'm sticking with my i20N..
@jamespatagueule4599
@jamespatagueule4599 6 күн бұрын
and 1500 kg... give us meganes and clios back
@corbendavies6593
@corbendavies6593 6 күн бұрын
Someone take this, rip out the extra weight of the EV system and stick the 1.8 litre from the megane Rs in there. And it will be fixed.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 6 күн бұрын
Eww yuck, it's sad what you bunch is willing to down grade to.1.8L 4 Banger is such a sad engine to fight against BEV. Unless it's some special Turbo 6 Cylinder (preferably Inline) or V8 or better it has no place trying to compete with BEV
@corbendavies6593
@corbendavies6593 6 күн бұрын
@Neojhun clearly don't know or understand what a hot hatch is all about.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 6 күн бұрын
@@corbendavies6593 Yet BMW somehow fit a Inline 6 in E87 and F20 1 series. Do better if you want to compete. The classic characteristics is not worth preserving. If you truly want to screw up Hot Hatch characteristic. Could just get a Cupra Born with a tail happy lose traction control with a Rear Motor RWD Hatch. BEVs is how we bring back driving pleasure.
@justinbennitt835
@justinbennitt835 6 күн бұрын
The "extra weight" being the 50kg that this weighs more than a 2024 VW Golf GTi?
@ThaDutchDK1989
@ThaDutchDK1989 6 күн бұрын
Neojhun Calls a bmw a “ real “ hot hatch 🤦‍♂️ yet a REAL hot hatch is a car based on a simple high volume car wich is FWD . A rwd without a lsd is pointless anyway . Yet you kids don’t understand..
@markrhoden68
@markrhoden68 4 күн бұрын
Imagine tuning into a video and seeing the headlines 'Alpine A290- new hot hatch champion', then learning it has less than 220hp
@pauliewalnuts240
@pauliewalnuts240 6 күн бұрын
217hp & 0-60 in 6.4 seconds are typical hot hatch numbers. Everyone thinks EVS are fast, but as they become more affordable, they're going to have smaller electric motors to cut cost. They have to "wow" with impressive power now, but the models people will actually be able to afford will have modest electric motors, similar to their ice counterparts.
@carebox5932
@carebox5932 6 күн бұрын
£38,000 for that... Nope. So many better cars used or new you can get for that money. The range is also far too low for a "sporty" car... push it on a windy road and expect to get half the range or less. I mean you can get a GR Supra/m2/m3/m4/ Lexus RC F/ a110/Focus RS/ GR yaris/ GR86 / Megane Trophy R / Civic Type R etc etc for less money why would anyone buy this.
@larscastelijns2168
@larscastelijns2168 5 күн бұрын
A bit pointless to compare used cars with a new car lol
@louisholden5127
@louisholden5127 5 күн бұрын
New to new is the only valid comparison. If this depreciates like other EVs then we'll be able to get one for £15k in 4 years anyway.
@fuze3522
@fuze3522 5 күн бұрын
i was so excited to click on this video and see alpine's latest masterpiece.. only to learn it's electric.. should've had the same Turbo 4 as the A110.. would just rather have a more powerful model 3 performance at that point..
@Zerobar78.
@Zerobar78. 6 күн бұрын
I had a 14' Fiesta ST, great little car that was a blast to drive!
@teerbaby1074
@teerbaby1074 6 күн бұрын
I'd be interested in the mileage when you try to have fun on a mountain road like that.
@justinschultz4325
@justinschultz4325 6 күн бұрын
My experience is you lose range going up, and you gain going down via regen. Many times it washes out or close to it.
@chriswagner9573
@chriswagner9573 6 күн бұрын
All they had to do was put the A110 ICE powertrain in it, and all the Americans would be drooling. But meh
@boscochan3728
@boscochan3728 6 күн бұрын
0:52 I thought he's going to say, "Is this Alpine A290 going to wrap around lamp posts as well?"
@peterdevreter
@peterdevreter 6 күн бұрын
I want this very badly. Would be a nice addition next to my green petrol cinq from the 70's :)
@niklaswejedal463
@niklaswejedal463 6 күн бұрын
And if you think even the Renault 5 is too expensive, pick up a Zoe R110, take it to an empty small,narrow and twisty country back road and marvel as it let you zip through the corners, like I did the other day. I bought mine to be my sensible commuter-bubble, but man, is it fun on the right kind of roads.
@44shibby
@44shibby 6 күн бұрын
Can't wait to read the reports of someone accidentally pressing that red button on the steering wheel while manoeuvring in a multi storey 😂😂
@ThePedroDB
@ThePedroDB 6 күн бұрын
otherwise known as the "up ramp" button... 🤣
@kingphiltheill
@kingphiltheill 6 күн бұрын
Seeing it's 1500kgs, I'm so glad I bought a A110 GT. 😂 Doesn't deserve the Apline brand sticker, should have sticked to RS nomenclature.
@AngusRShamal
@AngusRShamal 5 күн бұрын
Every review complain about the "high" curb weight of this Alpine, even though it's one of the lightest in it's segment. So I thought, let's look up some specs of the hot-hatches you've mentioned here - just for fun: Golf GTI mk8: 1381-1501 kg Golf R mk3: 1476-1562 kg Hyundai Ioniq 5 N: 2194-2248 kg (EV) Toyota GR Yaris: 1,110-1,280 kg Honda Civic Type R: 1429 - ? kg Abarth 500e: 1,410 - 1720 kg (EV) Mini Cooper SE JCW: 1670 - ? kg (EV) Alpine A290: 1,479 - 1579 kg (EV)
@hernonsenka
@hernonsenka 5 күн бұрын
Yes, but now compare it with same size rivals such as GR Yaris, Fiesta ST, 208gti(at least last), i20n, last Clio RS. They will have almost same power but ~300kg less. Lightweight cars gives much more fun on lower speed, even if they dont have a lot of power. Bigger car can be much more capable on medium and high speed corners, but require you to be more expirienced driver to get to this speeds.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 3 күн бұрын
1) There is no such thing as a MK3 Golf R 2) The GTI, Golf R, Hyundai, and CTR are NOT in the same segment, they are all the next size up. 3) Only the Abarth, Mini, & GR are in the same segment. The GR is substantially lighter, and the other 2 are also way too heavy.
@Elenir-e9j
@Elenir-e9j 4 күн бұрын
amo assistir esses vídeos muito bom ❤
@StanGuru
@StanGuru 6 күн бұрын
Zesty middle aged women are going to love this!
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 3 күн бұрын
I see a lot of their comments here 😂
@craighopkins4954
@craighopkins4954 6 күн бұрын
Needs to be at least £10k and 200kg lighter and look less like a 4*4 as the hot hatch which died over a decade ago should be affordable, light and fun
@fernandofragoso4118
@fernandofragoso4118 6 күн бұрын
The fact of being electric is not the problem for me. Nobody would care if it was electric but it weigh 700kg with the same distance between axis and track width. It would be mental! Overweight in a sports car is a turn off.
@MrQmie
@MrQmie 5 күн бұрын
The decline of hot hatches... It's more a small SUV...
@thewireman134
@thewireman134 6 күн бұрын
I'm happy with my hot hatch Chevy Bolt!
@ThomasHarrisonLord
@ThomasHarrisonLord 6 күн бұрын
Thought I was listening to The Rest Is Football for a minute there...
@darwenrover8910
@darwenrover8910 6 күн бұрын
Except that Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer and Micah Richards didn’t appear.
@alexblag18
@alexblag18 5 күн бұрын
Absolutely love it!
@HesteBremse
@HesteBremse 6 күн бұрын
With some more power as a choice it would be nearly perfect / perhaps integrate an over boost as the button is already there. Nothing bad to say about the styling and design, it’s appealing and I’m happy to see some small EVs coming to market.
@filipealves77
@filipealves77 6 күн бұрын
I'll keep my i20N, thank you very much.
@ThePedroDB
@ThePedroDB 6 күн бұрын
Me too! 😇
@dalexa
@dalexa 3 күн бұрын
All I have to say is that Renault did a terrific job in this car. You can trully see a R5 in some shots, specially from the side.
@stitcha123
@stitcha123 5 күн бұрын
Looks lovely. The end.
@XeXeX86na
@XeXeX86na 6 күн бұрын
The market says "no another electric car 🙏"
@protopigeon
@protopigeon 6 күн бұрын
This wasn't a review, it was a sales pitch
@DwainDwight
@DwainDwight 6 күн бұрын
this is what I want to see. reviews of sensible affordable cars. thanks TG
@paulaus
@paulaus 6 күн бұрын
Is this sarcasm?
@xXDaNiJaJaXx
@xXDaNiJaJaXx Күн бұрын
8 years ago I bought a Peugeot 208 gti by Peugeot sport for less than 20k new. This car doubles that, with almost the same power, 300kg more, and near half range... It's called progress, isn´t it?
@andrzejz4218
@andrzejz4218 6 күн бұрын
39k for a 217 bhp hot hatch (based on entry level EV) is fair price these days? You gotta be kidding. Thats Model 3 RWD money, that is objectively superior in every way to this "hot hatch". I'll pass.
@thejfg7741
@thejfg7741 6 күн бұрын
But if you buy a Tesla - you’re giving money to Elon Musk and that can never be acceptable.
@andrzejz4218
@andrzejz4218 6 күн бұрын
@@thejfg7741 It's perfectly acceptable unless you think that supporting freedom of speech and lesser goverment control is bad for you.
@4literv6
@4literv6 6 күн бұрын
Well said!
@martinogold
@martinogold 6 күн бұрын
@@andrzejz4218 Except Elon doesn't support free speech as demonstrated by the way he runs twitter. He just believes in it when it suits him. Tesla thrives on subsidies from erm, oh yeah the government 🙄
@existentialselkath1264
@existentialselkath1264 6 күн бұрын
A Nissan leaf can reach a similar spec for a lower price. There's nothing hotter about this besides the styling.
@Whatshisname346
@Whatshisname346 6 күн бұрын
I’m a big fan. Power isn’t everything, especially with a small front wheel drive car. It seems to have been made with an eye for detail and how we actually use cars most of the time.
@christopherbellisario9195
@christopherbellisario9195 6 күн бұрын
looks like a crossover to me...needs to be about 3" lower, at least...
@paulgoff5068
@paulgoff5068 4 күн бұрын
Lovely, only 2 things stop me from asking where to sign! 1, I have a 2021 GR Four Yaris with 13000 miles on it on my drive. Baloon payment due in about 3 weeks, I WILL be paying it. 😊 2, I've had 5 French cars, most from new, all with very little electronics, they were all good to drive, but all prone to electrical problems. A French car that is ALL electric............................................😮
@markseeger3352
@markseeger3352 6 күн бұрын
I really like it, hot hatches have never been about out right power, more the way they drive and from the reviews I have seen is pretty good. I would certainly have one over the MG4 XPower, that not only looks awful but seems to be completely overwhelmed by the power it has.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 3 күн бұрын
Very true about power, but hot hatches have also always been relatively light weight, so they didn’t need a ton of power to be fun.
@LandonLovette
@LandonLovette 5 күн бұрын
I just wish Ford would start making Fiestas again. Please bring back small, light, affordable, and fuel-efficient cars.
@niklaswo
@niklaswo 5 күн бұрын
This is a serious contender to be a substitution to my current daily, Honda e. But having sat in the Renault 5 a couple of weeks ago, my 190cm is really struggling to fit comfortably.
@Alex-ud4tl
@Alex-ud4tl 5 күн бұрын
How is IONIQ5 a hothatch? its bigger than Tucson or RAV4 etc. Its a practical SUV turned into a track machine.
@sbeer
@sbeer 6 күн бұрын
Guys am I the only one who sees a 30-40k £$€ every day car just out of every sense of budget and affordability?
@PookDaWook
@PookDaWook 6 күн бұрын
Those drl's inside the headlight are so cool
@MichaelPunished
@MichaelPunished 6 күн бұрын
Man you had to work real real real hard to try and be positive about this car haha
@swoozilicious
@swoozilicious 5 күн бұрын
hot hatches were hot thanks to the pricing, this is missing the point if it's costs 38K. You can get a model Y for that price which is 10x more practical
@franciscojaviervaldeonpaez9864
@franciscojaviervaldeonpaez9864 6 күн бұрын
That's a nice little car, in my opinion it needs more muscle, probably 250 HP its a perfectly hatchback number for to be considered 😊👊🏁💨
@Lando-kx6so
@Lando-kx6so 6 күн бұрын
There is no demise of hot hatches
@Cpm_Neon
@Cpm_Neon 6 күн бұрын
This is just a rebadged Renault 5
@Monty-sd6tc
@Monty-sd6tc 6 күн бұрын
Isn’t that the point?
@ThePedroDB
@ThePedroDB 6 күн бұрын
a perfect example of 'Badge Engineering'..
@ThaDutchDK1989
@ThaDutchDK1989 6 күн бұрын
A hot hatch is baised on a normal high volume car . Golf …. Gti , clio ….. rs . You live under a rock ?
@esm7708
@esm7708 4 күн бұрын
That's kind of the point
@RyuTsuchiya
@RyuTsuchiya 5 күн бұрын
This should be the normal R5 and the Alpine with 330hp
@gileral
@gileral 5 күн бұрын
Pity they didn't equip it with the fantastic A110 seats!
@grb454
@grb454 6 күн бұрын
You put the brakes on fire. How many lap you can cover before running out of juice, brakes fades or tires became slick ?
@matteogirelli1023
@matteogirelli1023 5 күн бұрын
Like shitting in a box, putting a candle on it and calling it a birthday cake
@robmowe8090
@robmowe8090 3 күн бұрын
I can just see someone piling into the front of a supermarket having accidentally pushed the red button!
@saletedeflash
@saletedeflash 5 күн бұрын
Can you use metric units too? Thanks
@Salo-dn8ww
@Salo-dn8ww 6 күн бұрын
Seriously, what is the reason to make a FWD EV in the first place??? I get it on a combustion car, it saves space, cost and complexity, but on EV? Why? It should have been RWD at the very least...
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 3 күн бұрын
Yup
@LukaszRox
@LukaszRox 6 күн бұрын
To be fair, I don't like electric cars, but this one tickles me a bit. Well executed, besides fact I already miss combustion Renault Sports.
@alpenfoxvideo7255
@alpenfoxvideo7255 6 күн бұрын
a bit power hungry innit? GTS also should have had 260-270 ponies
@darrensaquaticsworld
@darrensaquaticsworld Күн бұрын
Dont worry about the price. Wait 3 years, and you will get 1 for 18k
@stu1wyatt
@stu1wyatt 5 күн бұрын
Good review but new brand Alpine? It's been around for decades and has great history
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 3 күн бұрын
It hasn’t “been” around for decades. It was dead for decades and it is recently back.
@somebloke2238
@somebloke2238 6 күн бұрын
I think I'd rather have the regular 5. I'm stil glad this exists though.
@pierrebernard7665
@pierrebernard7665 2 күн бұрын
On Alpine's website it says the top speed is 170 KpH. This had better be a bad joke...
@opoc_x37
@opoc_x37 6 күн бұрын
Not perfect, although a step in the right direction. Well done, Alpine.
@scrublord1468
@scrublord1468 6 күн бұрын
Why is this not just called the renault 5 turbo E? This is not an alpine, I don't think it would sell poorly being a Renault either, they have good hot hatch pedigree.
@DaveC1964
@DaveC1964 5 күн бұрын
Will be an amazing second hand buy at 2 years old 😮
@BoxBoxBoxGaming
@BoxBoxBoxGaming 6 күн бұрын
Ioniq 5 is NOT a hot hatch, stop acting like it is
@esm7708
@esm7708 4 күн бұрын
It's a hatch back with 650bhp. It's ticking the boxes.
@silencer51
@silencer51 5 күн бұрын
There's no getting around it... it IS expensive. I remember getting my Clio III 200 for around 20k euros back in 2010. I know, I know... there's inflation to consider, also this one's an EV.. but still. It's literally double the price for about the same performance, more gadgets and a little bit less driving fun. Still, the new 5 and the A290 are the only EVs I've seen so far that appeal to my sensibilities. The demise of the hot hatch was a tragedy, I sincerely hope these new 'warmer' models will signal it's return.
@mishumihai223
@mishumihai223 6 күн бұрын
I'm sory, if I would get in one of these after driving a Clio 182, I would vomit in my mouth.
@willemschell
@willemschell 6 күн бұрын
Seeking some advice in the comments: I am picking a new company car in January 25. Needs to be EV. Used to drive a Peugeot e208 GT. Was a lovely little car. Only issue was I never got more than 200-250 km’s out of the battery. Now the obvious choice for me as a car-nut would be to go for the Renault 5 or Alpine A290, however it has the same battery and fast-charging capacity as my old Peugeot so doesn’t really feel like an upgrade. I’m also looking at Volvo EX30 or Mercedes EQA (which has almost twice the range). But they do seem a bit boring compared to this Alpine.. what to do..
@jc1982discovery
@jc1982discovery 5 күн бұрын
I was expecting a higher power output being electric, it’s definitely enough but not that enticing compared to what ICE hot hatches offer.
@UpTheAnte1987
@UpTheAnte1987 5 күн бұрын
Unfortunate coincidence but to me this looks like a Renault 5 promoting the rebrand of Twitter to X
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