AFCI vs GFCI: What's The Difference and Why You Should Care

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Күн бұрын

AFCI vs GFCI: What’s The Difference?
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Breaking down the difference in protection between AFCI, GFCI, Standard Breakers, CAFCI and Arc Fault Circuit Breakers, and Dual-Function Circuit Breakers. If you've ever wondered what any of these do or where you should use them, this is going to completely change how you look at electrical safety.
There are different options available when it comes to AFCI and GFCI protection. For example, they can protect a single outlet (receptacle) or an entire circuit (breaker) depending on what your needs are. The best way to protect against any arc fault (parallel arc, series arc, and ground arc) is by using a Dual-Function CAFCI/GFCI breaker.
Refer to 2020 NEC 210.12 for more information about AFCI requirements
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⏰ Chapter Timecodes ⏰
0:00 AFCI vs GFCI
0:13 What is GFCI
2:05 Standard Breaker Protection
3:02 What is AFCI (Parallel Arc Protection)
4:54 What is CAFCI (Series Arc Protection)
6:26 Dual-Function Breakers
7:02 AFCI Disadvantages
9:35 Is AFCI Worth It?
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@MonzaTom
@MonzaTom Жыл бұрын
I am a General Contractor in northern California and I became an electrician in the 80's and your video is how ALL videos should be here. Clear, accurate and to the point! Well done!!
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@E3ECO
@E3ECO Жыл бұрын
Yes, I liked it, too. No fluffing around, just raw information.
@mb-3faze
@mb-3faze 6 ай бұрын
As far as I can tell, none of these special devices will protect a human from a shock if the person grabs the hot and neutral at the same time. So some child grabbing and pulling out a plug when their little fingers go round to touch the conductors, before full disconnect, is still not protected. I'm not sure it's actually possible to provide this protection.
@nightrider963
@nightrider963 Ай бұрын
@@mb-3faze No but since you jogged my memory, it would probably protect from what I did at about two years old. I remember almost nothing from my youth however this is so vivid in my mind even now many decades later. IDK if the electricity burned it into my brain or if I remember it so vividly because how all the adults started screaming and freaking out. We had terrazzo floors and I was barefoot. I found a bobby pin / hair pin on the floor and I promptly stuck it in the wall socket. It was the type that was kinda “U” shaped and I put one end in each side and was immediately amazed with all the little fire balls jumping and rolling around on the terrazzo floor. How I wasn’t killed I’ll never know but then again I should have been killed many other times since then as well, I guess the Lord needs me here to be a bad example of stupid things to do.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 14 күн бұрын
But ALL your sockets are CRAP
@kkampy4052
@kkampy4052 Жыл бұрын
GFCI's work by passing the hot and neutral through a coil. As long as the inbound and outbound currents are the same, no voltage will be generated in the coil. If there is a difference, a voltage will be generated and picked up by the circuitry. AFCI's work by detecting high frequency noise on the circuit generated by the arcing. This is why they trip when using brushed motors. I'm sure our old school slot cars would have played havoc with them.
@danharold3087
@danharold3087 Жыл бұрын
The power packs were transformers with IRRC 1/2 wave selenium rectifiers. Would be interesting to find out.
@kamX-rz4uy
@kamX-rz4uy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this information, would have been nice if it was included in the video.
@GeorgeSmiley77
@GeorgeSmiley77 Жыл бұрын
@@kamX-rz4uy Darn right! Up till this moment, I found it hard to really trust GFCIs because I couldn't figure out what the detection mechanism was. Now that I know, I can trust GFCIs.
@megamaser
@megamaser Жыл бұрын
This comment is better than the video
@anwalt693
@anwalt693 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to provide the additional clarification. It's good to know THAT they work, but even better to know HOW they work.
@igoro5635
@igoro5635 Жыл бұрын
I am an electrical engineer and a contractor and want to say, that it's a very good and easy to understand explanation of AFCI and GFCI protection.
@deang5622
@deang5622 Жыл бұрын
But to be honest, it is not hard to explain what the purposes of the two devices are and how they work, is it? I mean, it's not as if the presenter is trying to explain how to take a signal in the time domain and convert it to a representation in the frequency domain...now that would be beyond most electricians.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate that!
@agbhargihad7325
@agbhargihad7325 Жыл бұрын
@@deang5622 you're so SMRT....
@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou Жыл бұрын
@@deang5622 dont be that guy. "Acckkttually..."
@markaxelson2274
@markaxelson2274 7 ай бұрын
Fast fourier transform..... @@deang5622
@DBR00
@DBR00 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for not embedding background music to this video. I liked the clear explanations and good camera work.
@Tech42420
@Tech42420 Жыл бұрын
Removed the town mandated AFCI breaker on our refrigerator after two nuisance trips. Lost hundreds of $$$ in food as we were out of town in both events. AFCI breakers were mandated after a kitchen remodel. We had NO electrical problems for 23 years before the remodel. Also removed the AFCI breaker for the 110 volt line that powers the igniters for the gas burners on our stove for the nuisance tripping issue. The oven would loose its flame w/o warning.
@chipsramek3868
@chipsramek3868 Жыл бұрын
CGI can be as bad...this guy is selling FEAR OF ELECTROCUTION...
@JoeFeser
@JoeFeser Жыл бұрын
Yeah screw that. What a pain in the ass.
@stephenrocks7004
@stephenrocks7004 12 күн бұрын
It is code that dedicated motor loads like your refrigerator and your garbage disposal. Do not have to be GFI. It’s somewhere in section 250 and if you note it is the largest section in the NEC.
@ednovak2224
@ednovak2224 Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Concise yet easy to understand by non-pros. Thanks.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@glennford5001
@glennford5001 9 ай бұрын
For the common person, like me, this was a good explanation. Examples of devices that might trip an AFCI would be helpful.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner 9 ай бұрын
I made a follow-up video about devices that can be an issue here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2e3eIqjj8h3ecU
@aotilanyoldthingilike1686
@aotilanyoldthingilike1686 9 ай бұрын
Most clearly written and spoken explanation that I have seen on KZbin. I have subscribed because I am hoping that all videos on this KZbin channel are narrated with carefully composed and edited language
@dplj4428
@dplj4428 Жыл бұрын
Differences and life-saving benefits made very easy to understand. Thank you.
@varanidguy
@varanidguy 6 ай бұрын
I recently ran a new circuit in my garage because one just didn't exist. The breaker I installed is a combo CAFCI/GFCI because overbuilt is better than underbuilt.
@amanuelasmerom508
@amanuelasmerom508 Жыл бұрын
The most clear and accurate explanation of GFCI & AFCI. Keep the good work!
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy Ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I think I'm going to use this video to demonstrate the purposes of these devices. I'm currently working on a retrofit where I plan to replace a lot of receptacles with dual-function units, and replacing some light switches with these newly invented AFCI light switches. Extremely handy for old homes!
@cyleung4915
@cyleung4915 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very clear and concise tutorial and very many thanks for your generous sharing of your professional knowledge.
@thinkfirst6431
@thinkfirst6431 Жыл бұрын
Comment about GFCI outlets and circuit breakers. I have installed several GFCI circuit breakers in outside standard "weather resistant" circuit breaker boxes. The GFCI circuit breakers are expensive, do cover all of the outlets and lights on that circuit. What I have found is that the GFCI circuit breakers can be sensitive to the weather conditions outside of the structure that they are placed in. Replacing the GFCI circuit breaker with a GFCI outlet in the first position after the breaker will provide the same outlet protection while still being sheltered from the elements.
@stevenmoomey2115
@stevenmoomey2115 Жыл бұрын
I second that, I never install GFCI in an Outdoor Location. Much better to install them near the Breaker Panel. Also walking to the Breaker Panel, gives you time to think off, what you did wrong. BTW WR on the Receptacle Stands for Water Resistant. Always PO’s me when they are installed upside down, so the “WR,” is upside down.
@jasonantes9500
@jasonantes9500 Жыл бұрын
It's what I never understood about some of GFCI outlet installations I've seen where the only one is at the end of a chain in the bathroom or kitchen or having to have a GFCI outlet at every outlet in said area when they are on the same circuit.
@emotionz3
@emotionz3 Жыл бұрын
It’s totally true humidity and even temperature swings seem to trigger GFCI. Bathrooms are less affected because the outlet is in the wall and humidity/temp swings are short term. Outdoors, and humidity in an outlet can freeze and thaw, displacing the moisture further, causing a false trigger. Of course whether one considered it a false trigger is hotly debated. Many outdoor devices, for example a Radon fan I recently installed, specifically state not to wire to a GFCI circuit. That seems counter intuitive until you realize it’s service reliability will be greatly reduced throughout the year especially in cold winter months where ice will melt and displace moisture inside the motor housing causing a differential in hot/neutral voltage through resistance from the moisture. Naturally, you can’t install a radon fan or many fans/motors in general of AFCI or CFCI circuits because the brushes in the motor generate the high frequency noise detected by arc fault integrated circuits, causing a false trigger. I believe brushless motors will become more standard over time as integration into arc fault circuits is required by various codes but as it stands now at lease in Chicago where I live many devices can be excluded from arc fault circuits in new construction such as high frequency lighting, motors, pumps, etc.
@_xyx.
@_xyx. 5 ай бұрын
It's likely that they were only required in the specific locations at the time of installation and early GFIs may not have had the passthrough feature of new ones.
@soylencer
@soylencer 25 күн бұрын
Your point about them being required in new boxes put me at ease about why it was so hard to find a combo AFCI/GFCI receptacle today. Sounds like new house doesn't need AFCI because it's already present at the breaker, old house doesn't "need" it because it's not needed for code. The only people still shopping for them are overly cautious DIYers and special projects. But I needed a GFCI for the wet areas, and decided to splurge for one for a dedicated microwave line. I'll be happy to have spent the extra $9 total to reduce my fire risk by at least that much. Luckily, while they didn't really upgrade my breaker, they did re-run most of the Romex. So at least I'm not looking at fabric in this 100 year old house.
@Digidoc316
@Digidoc316 Жыл бұрын
All these descriptions are all well and good but you missed the most important part! The National Electrical Code (NEC) and the National Fire Prevention Association (NFPA) have made GFCI and AFCI MANDITORY FOR ALL CIRCUITS! I recently changed out the entire electrical system in my house. Much of it was aluminum wire with cloth covering into ungrounded metal boxes without retaining clamps! I had to replace everything from the meter to the last outlet box! The fire inspector showed me in the code book the distances apart, the power limitations, and the protection required. Needless to say, the job QUADRUPLED in cost!
@dmitripogosian5084
@dmitripogosian5084 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how code works where you live, but were I live old circuits are grandfathered, and you do not need to redo them to modern code, if you do not touch them.
@jaysorensenIBEW
@jaysorensenIBEW Жыл бұрын
Yeah. They've gotten more stringent. I don't do residential, so thanks for the reminder.
@Zzrdemon6633
@Zzrdemon6633 2 күн бұрын
Don't get a permit, don¡t let any “official” in your house, I threw two union gas guys out of my house when one started inspecting when they were just in the house to make sure everything was good when they turned the gas back on after the main were worked on outside, i've never let them back in again
@marusholilac
@marusholilac Жыл бұрын
I had to install some AFCIs in a new shop building to pass inspection. After the inspection I switched them to GFCIs so I could use tools like a drill or saw that created sparks internally and tripped the AFCI. A 120v drill is liable to be plugged in anywhere in your house, so I'm not a fan.
@DaveS987
@DaveS987 Жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea until something happens and the fire inspector finds you changed them and then your home insurance is voided by your home insurance company.
@patrickmorris9710
@patrickmorris9710 Жыл бұрын
AFCI's don't like older vacuum cleaners
@DaveS987
@DaveS987 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmorris9710 so get a new vacuum, AFCI’s we’re invented because of electrical fires, not to be annoying.
@michaelbard420
@michaelbard420 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveS987sounds like an unintentional side affect is that they are annoying.
@akshonclip
@akshonclip Жыл бұрын
@@DaveS987 New vacuum cleaners also trip them. So do fans, hair dryers, some wall warts, and half rectified led lighting.
@riedjacobsen8620
@riedjacobsen8620 Жыл бұрын
I discovered that spider nests inside my outdoor receptacles caused my panel GCFI to trip. Replaced the cheap receptacles with commercial grade and haven't had a problem since.
@tredogzs
@tredogzs Жыл бұрын
Where do u get cheap electrical products? I needs to know!!!
@winterburden
@winterburden Жыл бұрын
harbor freight
@jammer6524
@jammer6524 Жыл бұрын
My new house has AFCI breakers with GFCI receptacles in garage , kitchen and bathrooms. The electrician we hired to hook us to the grid told us that's a costly breakers box but worth it. 30 plus years working as a plant operator at a power plant you get to know breakers well. By the way well done video.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
I bet you do! Thanks for the comment!
@suiethacks4740
@suiethacks4740 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Consider an appendix. Extension cords are the most common source of arcing fires since they are run under rugs and forgotten.
@bob456fk6
@bob456fk6 Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed. Furniture legs, especially metal legs, can cause the wires in an extension cord to short. That's a parallel arc or over-current condition.
@billm.8220
@billm.8220 Жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Precise & easy to understand.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@user-ke7et7zx4z
@user-ke7et7zx4z 4 ай бұрын
Well done professor. Perfect presentation.
@mb1284
@mb1284 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good video for new homes or a rehab. It's code the more protection the better less of a fire. You might spend a little more or more than you expect, but it worth it . If you work at home it's worth having up dated electrical.
@robertmungenast4193
@robertmungenast4193 Жыл бұрын
nice video on explaining the difference between the afci and gfci
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@waynepowell567
@waynepowell567 11 ай бұрын
Excellent info & presentation. Not enough information is made available to the public to be able to make an informed decision so thank you for sharing and placing some light on this crucial subject, It is very much appreciated.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, and I'm glad you found it helpful!
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 Жыл бұрын
Another type of arc occurs when the blades on a plug aren’t in tight enough contact with the contacts in the wall receptacle.
@jimboinsa
@jimboinsa Жыл бұрын
Good video. I used the combination breaker on my pool pump.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@peterburi2727
@peterburi2727 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that you showed a hospital grade receptacle. I usually purchase those. Worth the extra money.
@dermatologymiami
@dermatologymiami Жыл бұрын
Thank you content that is a complicated subject matter explained concisely and succinctly including the practical business standpoint
@user-ks6gd1vj5f
@user-ks6gd1vj5f Ай бұрын
Wow, this is exactly what I needed, thank you so much! Great presentation as well.
@lukeknowles5700
@lukeknowles5700 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Clear and coherent presentation. You are a great tutor.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@jacklucas7265
@jacklucas7265 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that information. I think I will act upon it shortly.
@wickedcode007
@wickedcode007 Жыл бұрын
I have AFCI in my trailer, and want to share an experience with regard to nuisance trips. I learned that a battery charger, not connected to load has some sort of issue because when i plugged in, the AFCI tripped. A regular outlet on a circuit breaker does not, nor does a GFCI. I have two of these chargers, the second does not trip the AFCI. Leading me to think that a problem in the first one is likely the cause, so I disposed of it to be safe. Thanks for this video.
@ehhjeep
@ehhjeep 8 күн бұрын
In 2020 we got a new to us home. We had the service upgraded to AFCI breakers. Within six months a tree in the yard was hit by lightning. That caused every breaker to trip. We had zero damage because of this. I would never go back to standard breakers again. It saved everything electrical in the home and we only had to get the tree removed.
@Mr.Beauregarde
@Mr.Beauregarde Жыл бұрын
If you put GFI breakers in your breaker boxes be sure and label them both prominently and indelibly. Joe Weekend might be asking for a shock when he replaces them with just-as-good breakers, but his kids probably deserve our best efforts to protect them
@bodyshop8008
@bodyshop8008 Жыл бұрын
Very Helpful! Well done on the explanation too.
@Troy-McClure81
@Troy-McClure81 Жыл бұрын
When we took over the 30 year old house we live in ,I was amazed by how it passed code,15amp Gfci on a 20amp breaker,non functional, and the other in my garage as well as not functional 2 story house 1989 build.Just recently changed my last fixture in the hall closet,and no suprise ground wasn't connected plastered in place lol.Eventually we will have whole house rewired and replumbed.Good explanation video.
@CharlesMartel676
@CharlesMartel676 Жыл бұрын
Hey, PJV.... No, I'm sure it was NOT to code; that's why you always want a home inspection before closing.
@Troy-McClure81
@Troy-McClure81 Жыл бұрын
@@CharlesMartel676 ya i think the in-laws were just trusting that the City Inspector did there job,I was flabbergasted to say the least when we first walked into the house.But frame to finish in 30days is Sketchy back then it was only 3 inspections if I remember correctly 1989-90 when my house was built and finished.Hell even my tile roof is dropping tiles like dollars on a stage.
@paulverstraete9157
@paulverstraete9157 Жыл бұрын
15 amp gfis are rated at 20 amp feed thru...look at any new gfi in a store....its fine
@paulverstraete9157
@paulverstraete9157 Жыл бұрын
also if 2 or more plugs in a circuit can use 15 amp plugs on a 20 amp as per the nec
@paulverstraete9157
@paulverstraete9157 Жыл бұрын
and if you hook the power to the load side of a gfi it wont trip...old landlords trick...
@joeycmore
@joeycmore Жыл бұрын
Our jurisdiction requires afci on most circuits plus gfci near water usages or when old wiring (non-grounded) is connected to.
@1bigslug
@1bigslug Жыл бұрын
Thank for explaining these. Very well done!
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@mariovela6206
@mariovela6206 Жыл бұрын
Thank You so much for all this detail video!!!!
@servicetechnician3264
@servicetechnician3264 Жыл бұрын
I had an arcing issue with an outlet in my basement. The hot wire was found to be loose and had carboned up over the years. If it was not for my dog alerting me, (He kept staring and sniffing the outlet) I probably would have had a fire for sure. I could see the glow when I took the outlet cover off! So I would say an AFTI would have worked there. BTW, that dog got a nice juicy steak for his meal. George B
@TinoSoto
@TinoSoto Жыл бұрын
Good boy.
@jaysorensenIBEW
@jaysorensenIBEW Жыл бұрын
Dogs are great. Try getting that out of a cat. The cat would watch you burn up in a fire, and then start eating you when he got hungry enough lol
@paulpugh2480
@paulpugh2480 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for these explanations.
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench 2 ай бұрын
Very clear explanation. Thank you.
@donchristie420
@donchristie420 Жыл бұрын
Note: HUD in our state wants rentals to have all circuits protected and remember, you can only have one circuit per fault breaker
@Liriq
@Liriq Жыл бұрын
I'm very sensitive to fire prevention. My close family came home one weekend night, and found the apartment building they lived in on fire. No one was hurt, but the apartment and all its contents were gone. Same for several other apartment. Fire dept was on scene and fire was already under control when they came home. Investigation concluded that fire was due to old/faulty wiring. Building had good insurance. The trauma of such a destruction and upheaval struck me hard. Been very thoughtful about fire prevention and fire suppression since. Photoelectric smoke detectors, fire extinguishers, turning off breakers when I leave the house etc etc. Thanks for the info!
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for sharing your story. Glad no one was hurt.
@harvey66616
@harvey66616 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a terrible thing to happen. That said, how do you feel about "protection" devices that are so unreliable, they induce people to ignore the very problems they are supposed to protect against, or to just get rid of the devices altogether? Because that's what AFCI breakers are right now. They are like a smoke detector that goes off at the drop of a hat, whether there's a fire or not.
@larryslobster7881
@larryslobster7881 Жыл бұрын
exactly what i needed
@calebschannel505
@calebschannel505 Ай бұрын
Very helpful explanation!
@MrNunna
@MrNunna Жыл бұрын
Good video! Excellent narration, Subscribed.
@jasonhouse481
@jasonhouse481 Жыл бұрын
You have one of the best videos I have seen so far... no distracting music and jokes... so eloquent, structured, informative and detailed. And you left that annoying cliche like subscribe and comment nonsense for the end (take it out all together!! everyone says it.. if your channel is awesome people will do it without you telling them to) Keep this kind of content up and you'll b on your way to a million subscribers
@romnickz9
@romnickz9 Жыл бұрын
Very nice comment. Cheers.
@steveksi
@steveksi Жыл бұрын
GFCI and AFCIs outlets only protect down stream. So if you are looking for in wall protection then best to invest in the breakers.
@jaysorensenIBEW
@jaysorensenIBEW Жыл бұрын
They're way more reliable, too.
@nomerc3608
@nomerc3608 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the refresher!
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
You bet!
@takeniteasyfriend
@takeniteasyfriend Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nuggets of difference on using the “combination” in lieu of basic AFCI for more robust arc protection. I was trying to figure it why I’d spend more money on what appeared to both be dual function GFCI/AFCI. Now I know if it doesn’t have C/AFCI you’re missing out on that additional point of protection in the circuit algorithm.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Yeah I really don't see the point in going with AFCI when it doesn't cover everything.
@krazmokramer
@krazmokramer Жыл бұрын
Well done video! Thank you for this valuable information.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Sure thing! Glad you enjoyed it!
@shockproof2006
@shockproof2006 8 ай бұрын
It's always a pleasure to watch your videos. Your presentations are well-organized, informative, clear and thorough, so I always take away a bit beyond what I came for.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment!
@emmanaing2084
@emmanaing2084 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video.. learned so much from it.
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner 7 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@allenft8396
@allenft8396 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@lii1Il
@lii1Il Жыл бұрын
I love the dual function but how well does it work connected to the AC side of a solar system?
@bme7491
@bme7491 Жыл бұрын
I had nuisance tripping of a breaker supplying power to normal outlets. Turns out the breaker had worn out (weak). Replaced and life is good again.
@koryabel6319
@koryabel6319 Жыл бұрын
I’m a resi guy looking for better ways to explain to people how GFCIs work. I always use the same example of the hairdryer in the bathroom. Anyway, great explaination mate!
@dkleath8697
@dkleath8697 Жыл бұрын
Do you know / can you address this subject as it pertains to Recrational Vehicles ( plugged into dedicated 50 amp residential service)? Thank you!
@johnsamuels6021
@johnsamuels6021 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video !
@D.N.R.911
@D.N.R.911 Жыл бұрын
Oh man this was very helpful thanks for sharing
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@darrylm3627
@darrylm3627 Жыл бұрын
Good Content,GreatTips😀👍🏿
@michaelboucher3100
@michaelboucher3100 5 ай бұрын
Have a bathroom outlet 3 feet from sink and outlet is GFCI. House built 2012. Would a wall mounted heater require (or would it be highly advisable) AFCI on plug? Thank you.
@MikeSiemens88
@MikeSiemens88 Жыл бұрын
Aside from cost an issue particularly with GFCI & AFCI circuit breakers is the amount of extra space they take up in a panel. One of these typically takes up the space of 2 normal breakers. The receptacles also take up much more space in a box which can be a problem when there are multiple wire connectors for branch circuits in there. I've installed several circuit breakers to keep up with code requirements. Also have a couple GFCI receptacles. No problems with the GFCI breaker but had an AFCI breaker fail. Can't confirm why but I don't think it was due to circuit overload & suspect the breaker itself was faulty, nearly caused a fire. I smelled burning, went to investigate & found the breaker scorched at the neutral connection. I disconnected the other AFCI breaker & hooked the circuits back up with standard breakers. No longer trust AFCI circuit breakers after that episode.
@caseylascallette7269
@caseylascallette7269 Жыл бұрын
In what make of main service panel do afci breakers take up two spaces?
@andrewshedron425
@andrewshedron425 Жыл бұрын
Not all of them take up extra space. Siemens with plug on neutral are same exact size.
@MikeSiemens88
@MikeSiemens88 Жыл бұрын
@@caseylascallette7269 I have a Siemens panel & both GFCI & AFCI breakers take up double the space I can fit a normal 15 amp breaker.
@MikeSiemens88
@MikeSiemens88 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewshedron425 See my reply to Casey Lascallette. Perhaps slimmer versions are available now but not when I was looking.
@caseylascallette7269
@caseylascallette7269 Жыл бұрын
Are you using tandems?
@russadams3008
@russadams3008 Жыл бұрын
I installed AFCI breakers on all my old (1955) circuits. However, I had to remove one and go back to the original breaker on the furnace motor circuit. Too many nuisance trips. There is an issue with GFCI breakers. I have one circuit that supplies an outdoor outlet. When the contractor remodeled the master bathroom, he tied it into that circuit. Now, if the outdoor outlet trips, it affects the bathroom outlet too.
@TriPham-sn9jj
@TriPham-sn9jj Жыл бұрын
thanks for this pre sen tation
@wb5plj
@wb5plj Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that with 128.45 million households in the USA (2020 Census) 35,000 fires means that there is a .027% chance of having a fire. Of which something like half (17,500) may be prevented with AFCI/CFCI protection, about .013% chance of having an AFCI/CFCI preventable fire. This could be broken down further to work out your particular risk. Which is not to say this is not a good idea for protection. I thought your video was good and clear and thanks for making it but I did feel that the number of households is relevant. Thanks for the video.
@mukdajangkrajang4582
@mukdajangkrajang4582 3 ай бұрын
With the these new code requirements the cost of building just got more expensive.
@burntsider8457
@burntsider8457 Жыл бұрын
Good explanation.
@mlt6322
@mlt6322 Жыл бұрын
That dual function breaker looks like it would be great in my house since it's 75yrs old and I occasionally see or hear a spark on some of my light switches at night, eventually I'll replace them all but money is tight right now and all my lights run through 1 breaker in the original 2 story section of the house, the 2 additions and garage all have newer wiring from the 70's.
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 24 күн бұрын
Which means you will lose all the lights in the house if one circuit has a fault… Splitting the circuits would be a better first step…
@theoriginalgondi
@theoriginalgondi 2 ай бұрын
As a house re-modeler i use just GFCIs, also haven't heard of AFCIs before this viewing. 😁
@georgeclark7208
@georgeclark7208 Жыл бұрын
As much as I hate this phrase, AFCI seems like a solution looking for a problem.
@jimbronson687
@jimbronson687 Жыл бұрын
Great info thanks.
@douglaskeaty6134
@douglaskeaty6134 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. Most electricians have no idea. I hope some CEU's are required for license renewal. Can you please explain 208 single phase in a residential application?
@Frankie5Angels150
@Frankie5Angels150 Жыл бұрын
My brand new (2022) house has AFCI breakers. Out clothes drier trips it constantly. I disconnected the second ground wire in the back of the drier to prevent this but can I just replace the Arc Fault breaker with a normal GFCI breaker and reconnect that wire in the drier? If not, what am I SUPPOSED to do to remain in code?
@joehaggerty9593
@joehaggerty9593 Жыл бұрын
Will the use of X10 power line control devices trip afci cafci protection?
@arthurlunais
@arthurlunais Жыл бұрын
Will a ceiling fan cause the AFCI / GFCI dual interrupt breaker to pop? Being that the ceiling fan motor electricity changes according to the speed you set it to will it affect in some way?
@NoName-rs4hs
@NoName-rs4hs 2 күн бұрын
Now a days, after storm my circuit barkers knocks off frequently almost all of them. Can you tell me why. Thank you in advance.
@daktusdurggery5505
@daktusdurggery5505 Ай бұрын
Question, why don’t we put ground facing up like they do in some places? So confused on this
@chrism6880
@chrism6880 5 ай бұрын
If you're looking for both ground and arc-fault protection, could you install CAFCI breakers, and GFCI receptacles?
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 6 ай бұрын
It should be noted that the GFCI breaker predates the availability of GFCI receptacles by several years. My parents house has a GFCI breaker in the outdoor outlets and the powder room receptacles. The master and main bathroom has those transformer limited electric razor only outlets. Homes built just a few years later simply put a GFCI receptacle in the powder room and have the outdoor outlets in series with that GFCI receptacle.
@lukeblackford1677
@lukeblackford1677 Жыл бұрын
I have some rent houses with ungrounded circuits and was wondering if installing the combination breakers would be an adequate solution.
@jaysorensenIBEW
@jaysorensenIBEW Жыл бұрын
As a matter of fact, you're right. No grounds is in violation of current NEC codes, but an allowed exception is GFI protection on said circuits.
@nickseamus7340
@nickseamus7340 Жыл бұрын
No. Don't cheap out on the safety of your tenants. Have the homes rewired.
@NullStaticVoid
@NullStaticVoid Жыл бұрын
Once got in an argument with an electrician who came to do an estimate at my mothers house. He kept interrupting and correcting me whenever I said GFCI. "you mean GFI, ground fault interrupt". I let it go. But after he left my mom and I turned to each other. "yeah, he's not getting the job". I've been building electronics since I was 10 years old. My favorite place to hang out when I was a kid was Radio Shack, back when it was more than batteries and cell phones. My mom was confident I knew what I was talking about, and this electrician was possibly not so great. Besides, nobody wants to work with a rude contractor. We found a better guy through a neighbor who runs a construction business.
@2adamast
@2adamast 4 ай бұрын
"... but GFCI is a more common term"
@rossr6616
@rossr6616 Ай бұрын
“GFI” was the original common term for them
@211212112
@211212112 Ай бұрын
I had a GFCI outlet that would trip when I had a space heater on it and too much connected to the same circuit it was on but not on gfci's. The breaker would never flip just the GFCI outlet would flip. I suppose with the space heater pulling a good amount of power a long way and two other outlets pulling power a good distance must of eventually caused the load on the GFCI outlet to become unbalanced.
@Anavllama
@Anavllama Жыл бұрын
Okay I have a leviton panel and cannot fine CAFCI CBs anywhere on their website ?? Only AFCI?
@FlayingBridenbakerdo
@FlayingBridenbakerdo Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@Backroadmuscle
@Backroadmuscle Жыл бұрын
What about old home wiring are those fancy breakers good
@EastCoastWingNuts
@EastCoastWingNuts Жыл бұрын
I might of missed it in the comments but I wish you could of told us how to identify one from the other. Very helpful vid on what they do.
@1967250s
@1967250s Жыл бұрын
Also who makes them and where? Hate buying crap from overseas that fails. Can you get them at the big box stores, or do you need to go to a dedicated electric store? Where are the best places to have them installed? Any advice on whether to use a breaker or outlet in which places?
@caseylascallette7269
@caseylascallette7269 Жыл бұрын
You can get them at home Depot and Lowes... They say AFCI or GFCI on both the packaging and the breaker...
@EastCoastWingNuts
@EastCoastWingNuts Жыл бұрын
@@caseylascallette7269 ID actually on breaker , Thanks !
@waswestkan
@waswestkan Жыл бұрын
I have to be fairly certain the devices have the information you desire labele on them
@PaulJosephdeWerk
@PaulJosephdeWerk Жыл бұрын
Now I fully understand why my vacuum cleaner occasionally trips the 2 AFCI breakers I have. Now I just plug the vacuum cleaner into a non-AFCI outlet. Luckily it has a long cord.
@lh98
@lh98 6 ай бұрын
My hot tub has a gfci breaker in my panel. Once or twice a year it trips for no known reason. Every time I reset it or if I’ve had the tub shut down to drain and refill I have to set the breaker and watch it trip out within 15 seconds or so then reset it again about 4 times before it finally stays on. Rarely will it stay on with the first engagement. It doesn’t trip immediately it’s always within 15-30 seconds and sometimes it’ll stay set after doing it 2 times, sometimes 6 times it all varies. Seems to have something to do with the start up sequence of the hot tub but once it stays on it’s good for months. It’s not underrated either it’s a 50amp gfci breaker for a hot tub that calls for 30 amp. Have tried new breakers too and it’s always the same thing. No known issue just finicky. Any thoughts??
@linewerksllc1803
@linewerksllc1803 Жыл бұрын
Ima Architect in NV - excellent video!
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JohnSherman2
@JohnSherman2 Жыл бұрын
So how does all this protection work out with portable devices the use motor brushes.
@davemeise2192
@davemeise2192 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Risk management is something we, as modern humans, haven't really needed to do on such a vast and large scale for a long time. I'm happy to see more awareness of the need to be "aware" of the risks we face in our modern world. However I think we need to use caution when approaching the concept of "make the world 100% safe for everyone." Life has risk and is the cost benefit ratio for said risk(s) worthwhile? I don't know but it's worth discussing.
@slowery43
@slowery43 Жыл бұрын
you really think people came here to read you babbling about stuff you have such little knowledge in but feel compelled to toss out a ton of cliches to appear smart?
@friedrice7
@friedrice7 Жыл бұрын
@@slowery43 😆
@jaysorensenIBEW
@jaysorensenIBEW Жыл бұрын
Can't thin out the non hackers if we've got these damn safety devices around...
@davidweum
@davidweum Жыл бұрын
If/when home insurers demand changing out receptacles for pre-80's homes (that do not have grounds ( I know this because they are in my house and i only know this because i have to replace one or more as i speak - the reason i must learn this), we might as well learn about it as DYI 'ERS.
@dreonphlatamus
@dreonphlatamus Жыл бұрын
The arc fault of both kinds are pretty much Nanny junk . What needs to happen is just a device to test the circuit upon installation ... which would be nice if it could tell you how far down the line the arc is happening. Then fix it ,,, but for regular use , just use your regular over amperage breakers. GFCI's are of course good things though. I guess also if doing anything involving penetrating the wall with nails & screws. Would then be a good time to test the circuit for arc faults. Knowing your circuits , and where the wires might be running is a good thing for any DIYer . But this set it and forget it type of safety , is pretty ridiculous IMHO .
@parveenmehay6753
@parveenmehay6753 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro useful for me this vedio
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that
@user-qv6ud2hx6f
@user-qv6ud2hx6f 5 ай бұрын
How CFCI/GFCI work in panels if all neutral wires are connected into one point ? Thanks
@salamia704
@salamia704 11 ай бұрын
thank you, well done!
@TopHomeowner
@TopHomeowner 11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@wrdennig
@wrdennig Ай бұрын
If you protect a circuit with a breaker, are you required to put a GFCI sticker on all protected receptacle wall plates? Or, are there wall plates with GFCI emblazoned on them?
@carlosrodriguez-ub4sv
@carlosrodriguez-ub4sv 10 ай бұрын
This is a great video
@tricogustrico
@tricogustrico Жыл бұрын
Leviton AGTR2-T SmartlockPro Dual Function AFCI/GFCI Receptacle what I use.
@warrenpuckett4203
@warrenpuckett4203 4 ай бұрын
Ground fault is not good when you are the conductor. So yes a hospital visit should also be scheduled. The interrupter that triggers on the slope of the current is there to protect the circuits plugged into it.
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