Taken By The Forest: The Strange Disappearance of Lucas Renoud

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@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to hear your thoughts and discussions on this one. Am I right in thinking that Lucas' disappearance was odd, or am I mistaken? Let me know. Also if you read this then I hope that you're having a great week
@igor8827
@igor8827 3 жыл бұрын
There is a information that he spent 8 minutes on a phone with 112 operator, it’s rather long time 🤷🏻‍♂️
@igor8827
@igor8827 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Adam , I did some research and in that area of Herrison waterfalls happened few strange things, for example they found non identifiable female body in 2017…
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@igor8827 Hey Igor, it's certainly more difficult for me to find things because I can't search so eloquently in other languages, would you please link me to that? I'd be very interested in reading about that. Also, I agree that 8 minutes was a fair while, I wonder what was being said
@adoxartist1258
@adoxartist1258 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissingVoidTV I hope you are having a great week, too!
@igor8827
@igor8827 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissingVoidTV I’m trying to send you a link on that 2017 case but it won’t show here… I m I doing something wrong??
@familyof1052
@familyof1052 3 жыл бұрын
It doesnt surprise me when they dont find people lost in the woods. My son and I were in a kayaking accident and had to climb out of the water up the side of a hill/mountain. We called 911. We were on the phone with them the whole time. They sent the DNR, police, and fire department. They had our location through our GPS and we had whistles on our life jackets that they had us blow every 15 seconds. We could hear them on the megaphone and it still took them 4 hours to find us. This was all just a half mile away from the local high school. It was dense woods around us but even giving our exact area it really shocked me how long it took.
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
That sure is weird to think about, I'm glad you guys were found and it's really great to see that you were so very well prepared with that, it probably saved you guys. But yeah, 4 hours is surprising
@Frenchblue8
@Frenchblue8 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds very strange`~just strange that it took them so long to find you with all those resources and personnel. Still I'm so happy they found you and you were in constant touch. It's amazing your batteries lasted that long! But what I'm wondering is if the local high school was only a half a mile away... Why you could not have just hiked out in that direction? What am I missing?
@familyof1052
@familyof1052 3 жыл бұрын
@@Frenchblue8 we were stuck on the inside of the river. It circles around and the only way to get out was to get back in the river. The current was to strong to back track and there were trees down from a storm which caused the accident to begin with. Once we got up the side it was so dense everywhere that we couldn't get down to the edge of the river anywhere else. They had to use chainsaws to get through once they located us and that took them about an hour to cut through. It was a big mess and fortunately we both had charged our phones before we left. It was a mess lol. I ended up with a torn bicep and him a busted knee.
@familyof1052
@familyof1052 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissingVoidTV thank you! I was very surprised at the rescue time with all the things we had. We are hunters and always out in the woods but now I know how people end up missing. This story is very weird though.
@familyof1052
@familyof1052 3 жыл бұрын
@@Frenchblue8 also thank you. By a half mile I mean down the river.
@bunnyluver2176
@bunnyluver2176 3 жыл бұрын
Seems a little weird that the guides, and not his friends, were the ones to notice he was missing. Another great video Adam! Keep up the good work!! No, you’re not alone in thinking this is a bizarre situation.
@jayleenmarlow2962
@jayleenmarlow2962 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@Jolenesmart1980
@Jolenesmart1980 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s bizarre for sure!!
@Jolenesmart1980
@Jolenesmart1980 3 жыл бұрын
I’m new and didn’t know bizarre was a thing in here when I wrote it lol all good as I love the bizarre- obviously hate people going missing -thought I’d clarify because some people would take things wrong
@fourshore502
@fourshore502 3 жыл бұрын
there are friends and there are "friends"...
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 2 жыл бұрын
His friends probably assumed he was there and didn’t realize he was gone. The guides sound like they were keeping count and realized he was gone. I do wonder if he fell suddenly or wandering off briefly and meant to be gone for a few mins
@sandrataylor2323
@sandrataylor2323 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he went off the trail to use the bathroom and got turned around. Also, I think its odd that he was only 500 meters from the parking lot and he couldn't hear people talking, shouting or cars coming and going. Surely they would have heard him yelling from the trail as they searched for him. This is indeed a strange case.
@sirandrelefaedelinoge
@sirandrelefaedelinoge 3 жыл бұрын
Trees act as a sound suppressor - that's why people can't hear each other.
@LatherScreamRinse
@LatherScreamRinse 3 жыл бұрын
Snow is a good sound insulator too.
@forwardsdrawkcab
@forwardsdrawkcab 3 жыл бұрын
So perhaps he wasn't in the area at the time.
@jxn1056
@jxn1056 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirandrelefaedelinoge yes.. it's terrifying..
@jbrobertson6052
@jbrobertson6052 3 жыл бұрын
@@forwardsdrawkcab that's what I believe
@KarenSmith-pc8ji
@KarenSmith-pc8ji 3 жыл бұрын
If the family could have spoken directly with the hiker that discovered the body, it might have reassured them (a little) that it really was their son. He could have described the clothing, his hair, and anything else he saw. This is a very strange and sad case indeed and I thank you for giving it the attention that it deserves. My thoughts and prayers are with the family on the tragic loss of their son. They will never be the same.
@KarenSmith-pc8ji
@KarenSmith-pc8ji 3 жыл бұрын
​@Lonnie Dunn Good observations and you’re absolutely right.
@jmflyer55
@jmflyer55 3 жыл бұрын
As an experienced Search & Rescue worker, I can tell you that finding someone lost in the woods, is a LOT harder than most people think. We constantly hear in these stories how searchers were just feet away, but never saw anything, which makes many speculate the body couldn't have been there prior. But that just isn't true. Even under the best conditions, it's incredibly hard to locate someone. When law enforcement releases statements like "We just cant understand not finding them", that throws fuel on the fire. Because again, even under the best conditions, its incredibly hard to find people. I've been involved in numerous searches, and not found people. Only for them to be found later. One other thing I like to stress to hikers is this. You need to be prepared, and if theres any doubt in your mind about being able to get yourself out of the woods, don't go. Many people have a false sense of security, believing if they get lost, search and rescue will find them. But sadly, that is NOT the case. No matter how high tech the equipment is. It's like looking for a needle in a haystack, and chances are, unless you can help yourself, and at least make it to a main trail and stay put, you will not be found.
@profpartout6609
@profpartout6609 3 жыл бұрын
glad you discussed normalcy bias. You are right, this is an impediment to rescue/discovery
@bethbosheers8096
@bethbosheers8096 3 жыл бұрын
@@reesedaniel5835 I agree
@monaw6484
@monaw6484 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR DISCUSSING THIS - normalcy bias (and denial) can be extremely powerful- and it’s largely unknown
@elsablue3646
@elsablue3646 3 жыл бұрын
Its similar to people who drive to the ER instead of calling 911 while having a heart attack because they dont want to make a big deal out of it they say
@coreyanderson1457
@coreyanderson1457 3 жыл бұрын
It's a impediment to a lot of things where a person needs help, I know. I agree.
@Ona-vd8ri
@Ona-vd8ri 2 жыл бұрын
We are taught not to make a big deal of things and not to cause embarrassment or a scene.
@germanwolf9212
@germanwolf9212 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for covering this case! It must be really frustrating for the family because there is such a lack of details. Lucas managed to call emergency but not his friends nor did they manage to call him? Not to mention that getting lost on a trail like this is really really difficult. But you did indeed give a very good description and summary of what has happened. Unfortunately the family will likely never get the closure they need.
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know about Lucas, GermanWolf, it was very interesting to learn about his situation. I agree by the way, there are many things that don't add up
@germanwolf9212
@germanwolf9212 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissingVoidTV You're welcome, always looking forward to see new videos:)
@veronicalynn9756
@veronicalynn9756 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he tried but being in the woods none of them could get a good signal, didn't he lose connection with the 112 operator before she told he try to find his way out, which was bad advice 🤔
@videosdeecologia7468
@videosdeecologia7468 Жыл бұрын
Remember that this case occurred at night... If he went into the woods at night to urinate etc and got disoriented then it is possible he got lost. What I find strange was the attitude of his friends and the 112 telephone operator... They didn't call him. They didn't realize it right away... Maybe they were drunk... Who knows...
@todd7619
@todd7619 3 жыл бұрын
Those poor parents 😔 literally left in the dark and ignored
@aquamarine9568
@aquamarine9568 3 жыл бұрын
Just because someone is found within metres of where a searcher has been doesn’t mean they were in that spot when the searcher was there. From his emergency services call it sounds like Lucas was walking around trying to find a way out. If you are lost stay in one place. Also, bring a whistle, a blow it to alert searchers. It carries much farther than a voice and your voice will wear out if you are yelling for help.
@mikemurphy5898
@mikemurphy5898 11 ай бұрын
I guess what I don't understand is why people who move don't break branches as they go. It's much easier to pick up a trail of broken branches and also know if you're wondering in circles
@beccajo2175
@beccajo2175 7 ай бұрын
@@mikemurphy5898maybe too labor intensive. I would be tired after just a little while of breaking branches. I’m not a bear.
@adoxartist1258
@adoxartist1258 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine trying to live with yourself after having told this poor guy to go find the trail, and now he's dead?
@shirl-adellie6893
@shirl-adellie6893 3 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming if that sort of answer was their reaction in a situation such as this, then then the only reason a fraction of this person is finding it difficult to live with themselves is only due to the backlash of others reactions at finding out what was said in this exchange, not due to a pre existing conscience
@JS-ob4oh
@JS-ob4oh 3 жыл бұрын
@Adox Artist You are assuming everyone has a conscience. If only that were true, the world would be a much better place. Emergency number operators such as 112 in France and 911 in the US have been involved in some of the most bizarre scandals such as hanging up on callers, selling callers' info to scammer such as those in a car accident or medical emergency, and others even stranger ones. I severely doubt the 112 operator Lucas Renoud called has lost any sleep over what s/he did.
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 2 жыл бұрын
That’s horrible, some people shouldn’t be working in crisis work to help people
@travkeyes
@travkeyes 2 жыл бұрын
yes and that is the exact opposite of the thing you are supposed to do, and they work for emergency services..... If lost you are supposed to stay put, so the people can find you.
@sylviamacdonald9966
@sylviamacdonald9966 3 жыл бұрын
You would think that a healthy young man could survive overnight in summer, not only the night but a week. Very strange.
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's not a bad point at all
@atmywhitson
@atmywhitson 3 жыл бұрын
Right!
@mosspiglet8766
@mosspiglet8766 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose it depends if he had any supplies with him, especially water in summer.
@unropednope4644
@unropednope4644 3 жыл бұрын
Since we dont know when he died or cause of death, he could have been alive for a few days for all we know, just wandering in circles. The search in this case was shit and it sounds like they refused to use any dogs.
@EveTater
@EveTater 3 жыл бұрын
@@unropednope4644 At one point they stated the dog team was sent twice. Also note he never called back, one would think after surviving a night still lost you would call anyone again. Sure, maybe he lost service (and never was able to find any again...) or broke the phone but the chances of that happening just after 1 call seem low
@bethbosheers8096
@bethbosheers8096 3 жыл бұрын
Find his way back, alone?! This young man tried to save himself and he was abandoned by the emergency operator. Unacceptable. May Lucas Rest In Peace. 😔🙏🏼❤️
@liliya4523
@liliya4523 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!! It's totally unacceptable!! I hear more and more these days about 911 operators being lazy with their job or being just plain rude. Sometimes when I listen to them I get angry because all I can think is, how can they be so callous and unmoved when someone calling is literally on the verge of dying, or reporting someone they love is hurt! Like how do you treat someone in that kinda situation so rudely?! 🥺
@amandaowens8458
@amandaowens8458 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of anyone being told that.
@nepalme6983
@nepalme6983 3 жыл бұрын
There not supoosed hang up
@amandaowens8458
@amandaowens8458 3 жыл бұрын
@@nepalme6983 I hope she lost her job. Told him to keep trying to find his way back, then hangs up. You don't tell someone to wander around. You stop so you can be found
@pixelapocrypha
@pixelapocrypha 3 жыл бұрын
I think the implication is that the signal dropped before they could assist further, not that the agent hung up.
@muddyshoesgardener
@muddyshoesgardener 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody “ looses” a fellow friend ( part of the group) that is hiking. There is a group mentality among nine people. Doesn’t seem right. Lucas didn’t try to call his family or friends but he called emergency authorities? Odd
@abbyarnold4477
@abbyarnold4477 3 жыл бұрын
Loses is the correct spelling . Sorry to correct you but mispelling drives me nuts.
@saerro4673
@saerro4673 3 жыл бұрын
Well they did say the call got cut off, so he may have only had a brief moment where he was able to get signal.
@cx2900
@cx2900 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno, if I was lost in the woods but still able to call the police, I wouldn't be too worried that I wouldn't be found in time if the weather wasn't about to kill me. And I wouldn't be calling loved ones in that situation unless I thought I was gonna die (and probably wouldn't be able to call anyone anyway)
@fourshore502
@fourshore502 3 жыл бұрын
i guess his "friends" hated him and wanted him to die. very possibly they are behind the disappearance.
@longgone6312
@longgone6312 2 жыл бұрын
Right he supposedly got cut off on the call to emergency did he just think oh well guess ill sit here and die none of his friends had a cell his parents family friends that are not there why would that rude 911 guy just cut off talking to someone who is obviously lost in the woods a deadly situation
@marumae
@marumae 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing light to cases that people ignore or get passed over.
@scott3995
@scott3995 3 жыл бұрын
Something spooky going on out there in the woods. No matter which forest you go in! Thank you Adam for the new video keep the good content up.
@sylviancreedmarsh9171
@sylviancreedmarsh9171 3 жыл бұрын
Not to get too conspiratorial, but this feels like someone doesn’t want people to know something. I have no idea why there was such obstruction to looking deeper into this.
@rheamickens3128
@rheamickens3128 3 жыл бұрын
If it walks like a damn duck....
@hobbscoblin1313
@hobbscoblin1313 3 жыл бұрын
There are places we should not tread. Unseen borders we should not cross. For on the other side are things we should not see.
@Rh11993
@Rh11993 3 жыл бұрын
Feel like this happens so much. A lot of red tape....
@amberk8398
@amberk8398 3 жыл бұрын
“If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.” -Friedrich Nietzsche I was at St. Marie’s Glacier with my friend. We decided to spend the entire day there and we were fishing. Catch and release. The moon wasn’t as bright but the stars looked amazing. I swear I watched a star die. It wasn’t cloudy out. Other campers were there as well. It was around 11pm when we decided to drive back to the city. The dirt route we took was super rocky and being surrounded by trees, it was meant for Jeep’s or Trucks. Cars would struggle. The only light left we had were from the headlights. I remember my foot handing out the side of the door and decided to pull it in. I felt scared for some reason. I looked into the trees and couldn’t see a thing. I told him that it was a little scary being out this late and deep in the woods. That is when I heard that quote. Scared me even more. Nothing eventful really happened. I just felt like something was following us prior to me mentioning anything. Like something was watching or waiting. It was quiet. Not even a crickets chirp. I was happy once we made it back to the main road.
@tomw2919
@tomw2919 2 жыл бұрын
@@amberk8398 You were scared because it was dark and you were in the middle of nowhere. I often have that same feeling when I'm in the woods at night but it's just my anxiety.
@ketugrahagraha3673
@ketugrahagraha3673 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that authorities had the power not to allow the family to see the body of their deceased relative. It's understandable that after 8 days the body would be decomposed, but surely relatives understand that and isn't it their right to make the decision? Why all of a sudden authorities have the final say on it? On what grounds exactly?
@MisplacedTexan
@MisplacedTexan 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That would not fly in my country (the USA.) You wouldn’t be allowed to refuse the family’s request to see the body. The family receives the body and chooses how it is handled, whether buried or cremated or whathaveyou. And we can take possession of the body and hire an independent autopsy to be done. I can’t fathom not having the freedom as an adult person who is a mother to be told I’m “not allowed” to see my child because some government official is deciding my child is too damaged for me to view? I don’t think so. Heads would roll. Incredibly sad. I feel so awful for his parents.
@no_peace
@no_peace 3 жыл бұрын
@@MisplacedTexan that's part of freedom of religion
@rheamickens3128
@rheamickens3128 3 жыл бұрын
@@MisplacedTexan I literally just typed the same thing in a different comment
@MisplacedTexan
@MisplacedTexan 3 жыл бұрын
@John Seaginthal - I only know from my experience burying a loved one. Everything was our decision as the family. Whatever the hell you’re talking about, which is not the topic being discussed, I have no idea.
@MoiraWillenov
@MoiraWillenov 3 жыл бұрын
Beyond all the odd facts surrounding this mans disappearance... the problem the authorities had with revealing the body or info involving it makes me tend to believe there was something being hidden. Something anomalous with the body perhaps? Something gruesome or unusual enough that the family might be horrified by it? Or draw in an unwanted investigation to it?also, I would put money on the body having to have been cremated. Or maybe the family not being told of the cremation. Heh. Suppositions. But I HAVE seen this sort of thing a few times. :P
@desertlillie9659
@desertlillie9659 3 жыл бұрын
The cabin disappearance was really freaky. I love intrigue. I really enjoy your channel.
@ValleyMermaid
@ValleyMermaid 3 жыл бұрын
This was so sad!!! Interesting and creepy but ultimately heartbreaking. You do a great job sharing these videos!
@DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson
@DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson 3 жыл бұрын
Don't ever stop uploading for us, please. Unless you need to, then I get it.
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
You got it Dylan, I don't plan on stopping
@DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson
@DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissingVoidTV my guy!
@Frenchblue8
@Frenchblue8 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissingVoidTV yay!!!
@ThisAlphaWolf
@ThisAlphaWolf 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. A lot of people have channels that they will drop anything that they are doing, within reason of course, to click and watch when certain channels upload. That's this channel, for me. In my opinion, Adam can't be beat on the topics that he covers. Not to degrade anyone else that covers these subjects but in regards to the overall experience, he is the best in my opinion. The content ticks all of the boxes for what I look for in a channel and in the content creator themselves, if they're out front. Thorough, thoughtful and thought-provoking. Excellence! I would quite literally be seriously bummed if anything ever happened to this channel. It gives me something to look forward to, even when everything else might be blowing up in my life, haha.
@liliya4523
@liliya4523 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThisAlphaWolf I feel the same exact way! You have good taste my friend! I have to ask because this really does tick every box for me, do you have any other channel recommendations like this one?
@daniellecampbell513
@daniellecampbell513 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe when he called that operator essentially didn't do anything or report the call. Are they trying to cover up their own mistakes?
@scallopohare9431
@scallopohare9431 3 жыл бұрын
He called at night. There was no point in doing anything until daylight.
@daniellecampbell513
@daniellecampbell513 3 жыл бұрын
@@scallopohare9431 They did a search when his friends called though
@scallopohare9431
@scallopohare9431 3 жыл бұрын
@@daniellecampbell513 They searched once it was daylight.
@daniellecampbell513
@daniellecampbell513 3 жыл бұрын
@@scallopohare9431 gotcha
@SueGirling68
@SueGirling68 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, I would say this was a highly suspicious case all around. Thank you for sharing, much love. xx 💖
@jennasmith6867
@jennasmith6867 3 жыл бұрын
A very strange case, so many questions... Brill video as always Adam!
@Colstonewall
@Colstonewall 3 жыл бұрын
David Paulides wrote about a similar case in one of his "Missing 411" books. Searchers were brought in, helicopters with FLIR were flying around for about 2 weeks. The searchers had a base camp, and they took the same trail in and out of that base camp every day for those 2 weeks. At the beginning of the 3rd week as searchers walked out on the (same) trail, there was the body of the missing man laying right in the middle of the trail. Paulides wrote about many, many similar cases. One was a School trip of teenage girls walking down a trail. The trail went down, and back up at one spot. One girl was about 40 yrds ahead, walked down the hill as the others were behind in a dip where they couldn't see the girl for a few seconds. As they topped that dip, the girl was gone. I can't remember the details of the case, whether or not she was found. It's been a long while since I've read about these particular incidents. So, if my details are off a bit, please forgive me. But, the gist or the main points were correct.
@Tom-uv7ry
@Tom-uv7ry 2 жыл бұрын
He's a con man silly gullible child
@yvonnebuchanan5564
@yvonnebuchanan5564 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Adam. This really is a “Top Mystery”! What a mess….so sad.
@brittany9414
@brittany9414 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you take time to give us a description of the video in the box 'down below'. Thank you. So many creators use this for links to various things only. I like having a description.
@likemeordont5951
@likemeordont5951 3 жыл бұрын
What I can't understand is: How their government can decide they can't see their son's body before burial. Why not? I'm sure they understand he's not how they saw him last. But, I get their need to see it. What difference would it make to them if it helps them?? Fishy!!!
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
I do agree with that, if they wanted to see him, that should've been their choice
@atmywhitson
@atmywhitson 3 жыл бұрын
Very!
@rogerhargreaves2272
@rogerhargreaves2272 3 жыл бұрын
That’s one thing I don’t understand. There would be no reason why they could not see the body for identification purposes. Reading about a woman in the same area who disappeared with terrible facial fractures may be the reason.
@missysmessage722
@missysmessage722 3 жыл бұрын
Super sketchy
@no_peace
@no_peace 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a French cultural or legal thing, that the government or other agency can prevent people doing things like this to protect them? Or that you should listen when it's suggested to you?
@rhondascott3703
@rhondascott3703 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the long hours of research into these very strange and frankly unbelievable disappearances. You give so much support to family members by doing your very best to present these highly strange missing persons. Thank you Adam! May God bless you and your continued questions along with your in depth research.
@Shaden0040
@Shaden0040 3 жыл бұрын
Why does any man go off alone into the woods? To take a pee, obviously.
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
True, I've covered disappearance previously were that exact scenario happened
@rogerhargreaves2272
@rogerhargreaves2272 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@sirandrelefaedelinoge
@sirandrelefaedelinoge 3 жыл бұрын
But you might always run into a shitting bear...
@rogerhargreaves2272
@rogerhargreaves2272 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirandrelefaedelinoge - not in France.
@sirandrelefaedelinoge
@sirandrelefaedelinoge 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogerhargreaves2272 obviously I wasn't paying attention...
@moon-ud8tq
@moon-ud8tq 3 жыл бұрын
I would always like to see maps of location of the area (looking down aerially of the parking lot, the waterfall, the path they followed, where he was found, etc. ) 📸
@markpettie681
@markpettie681 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, you ask all the right questions!! I really appreciate an analytical mind✌
@spiritoftheforest6204
@spiritoftheforest6204 3 жыл бұрын
I get cold shivers when I hear these stories
@inleblack1136
@inleblack1136 3 жыл бұрын
I think these old places, unchanged for years have their own energy and can trap people within their power, almost like they are out of time. I have heard other people who have had this type of thing happen to them, the rescuers walking near but not seeing them. We don't know anything about the reality we inhabit.
@longgone6312
@longgone6312 2 жыл бұрын
Or the people that are lost hearing the search party calling for them but not being able to see or get close to them i agree with u sometimes u can just get displaced its scary i think some authorities know about it and try to cover it up as well
@matthewmosier8439
@matthewmosier8439 2 жыл бұрын
@@longgone6312 Read a story about a guy lost in woods, years ago. It was in a magazine, not on the internet. He seemed to blame hallucinations, but at one point he came across a house out in the woods and saw a car leaving the driveway. He approached and saw a dog, all of which disappeared as he reached it. I think woods might hide supernatural dangers.
@johndough5192
@johndough5192 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds lie a bunch of hocus pocus mumbo jumbo to me.
@jpjp3486
@jpjp3486 9 ай бұрын
People like you love spouting absolute crap and others eat it all up like children.
@JS-ob4oh
@JS-ob4oh 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas' "friends" are very suspicious and behaved in a manner I would not characterize as "friendly". -First, Lucas had a working cellphone, so why didn't any of his so-called friends called him? Why didn't he call them? -Second, he was obviously alive when he made the 112 call at 10pm, so why didn't his friends who claim to be searching for him starting at 8:30pm not encounter him? Why didn't he or they not respond? Or are we to assume the search party searched in silence never calling out his name? -Third, cellphones can be tracked and located. This is a fact, so the authorities should had been able to triangulate the location of his phone. So why didn't they? -Fourth, a healthy 20 year old does not just drop dead in 1 or 2 days outdoors. Why was there only 1 phone call? If he was dying and felt he had no hope of being found, wouldn't he had called his parents to at least say, "Goodbye"? There was a case of a mountain climber, Rob Hall, who was trapped on Mt. Everest. He knew he was going to die so he called his wife. Lucas Renoud was in a forest near a populated area. He was obviously in range for cell service. But he only made 1 call. Why?
@Sleepparalysisdemon2
@Sleepparalysisdemon2 Жыл бұрын
And yes, a healthy person can * drop dead* within a very short time. Hypothermia can set in exceedingly quickly. You never know what the mind goes through...so you just can't say what they would. Or wouldn't be thinking.
@videosdeecologia7468
@videosdeecologia7468 Жыл бұрын
I believe that the lack of signal explains several of these issues...
@jenshoefer7944
@jenshoefer7944 Жыл бұрын
​@@Sleepparalysisdemon2 this "trail" is effectively an easy 2 miles loop some tourists go in sandals...it's so overcrowded, you won't even get a 5 minutes peaceful period, you constantly run into noisy groups of people on this "trail". There is no chance to leave the trail, and even if you climb up to the left or right you instantly hit a busy road...this trail is by no means remote or difficult
@hollyisbored
@hollyisbored 3 жыл бұрын
This is a case where someone should help those parents petition for an exhumation to do a more serious autopsy and maybe even some DNA testing to confirm it really is their son in that coffin and maybe get some answers. I wish I knew where to start with something like that. Hopefully someone watching this video knows where to start and can help those poor family members.
@benisaten
@benisaten 3 жыл бұрын
Great video bro. Well done. Such a crazy story. Respects from 🇨🇦✌️
@mamazalama
@mamazalama 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work Adam, I would not have been able to remain so cool as you, I felt myself getting very angry after they said they had found him and he was only 30 meters from the footpath! CRAZY!!! Fascinating as well as frustrating...I do feel so badly for the family but they should not let this go so easily! Thanks for your excellent presentation - your French needs a bit of work however, (wink wink). :)
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
My *insert language here, including English* needs work! My pronunciations are hopeless at the best of times 😂
@murrayf2890
@murrayf2890 3 жыл бұрын
The powers that be should have told the parents what they wanted to know regardless IMO
@plicketyplunk
@plicketyplunk 3 жыл бұрын
I adore your narration and your dedication to bringing us unusual and interesting cases. Rock on!
@jb0258
@jb0258 3 жыл бұрын
My heart truly goes out to the family. I can't even imagine how they felt and still feel about this entire situation.
@carmendaniel3734
@carmendaniel3734 2 жыл бұрын
This is a 411 David Paulides kind of story. Really weird. Enjoying your channel. ❤️
@alannabanana6255
@alannabanana6255 3 жыл бұрын
You have a such a relaxing voice, I tend to zone out, stop focusing on the story, and doze off.
@missysmessage722
@missysmessage722 3 жыл бұрын
I put it on just to fall asleep Some times. I watch them also tho
@alannabanana6255
@alannabanana6255 3 жыл бұрын
@@missysmessage722 the strange comforts of true crime! that being said, always nice when a new case is uploaded :)
@roye5674
@roye5674 3 жыл бұрын
It might be the background music lol
@bill4460
@bill4460 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent and amazing work you do when covering all the mysterious cases and strange encounters!
@lolly9080
@lolly9080 3 жыл бұрын
I feel for his family 😢 just a kid at 20 years old
@a.j.leclair5426
@a.j.leclair5426 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam how r u? Awesome video man thank u very much. I love that u care so much about these people.
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks A.J, and all good here, hope you're getting on well yourself 👍
@a.j.leclair5426
@a.j.leclair5426 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissingVoidTV lol I accidentally hit the dislike button hopefully u don't get a notification for that lol. I immediately changed it to a like haha
@jessehutchings
@jessehutchings 3 жыл бұрын
"somehow became separated" I am left feeling very curious what all of his coworkers had to say about being separated. The detail that stands out most to me is that his coworkers didn't mind ditching him in the woods and they must have felt begrudged, complacent and inconvenienced by his disappearance, taking their sweet time to contact authorities
@plynn136
@plynn136 3 жыл бұрын
Why blame the others in the group? They did not walk off. IMO Lucas planned this whole thing.
@videosdeecologia7468
@videosdeecologia7468 Жыл бұрын
Young people walking at night in the woods. What can go wrong? Everything. I think it's most likely that he went into the woods to urinate and then couldn't get out... And his friends didn't pay attention...
@donnablack6280
@donnablack6280 3 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. I enjoy crime podcasts from overseas like Casefile Presents from Oz, or Trace Evidence and maybe Sword and Scale, both from the States. But I absolutely love a mystery or cold case, and even something with a paranormal feel to it. And you, brother, are knocking it out of the park. Thank you.🤘
@Kat_._.44
@Kat_._.44 3 жыл бұрын
“Try to find your way back” Wow, great advise, mister help-operator 🤦🏼‍♀️
@tjmulligan3086
@tjmulligan3086 3 жыл бұрын
the real mystery is how your videos get any thumbs downs. they're all great and i always look forward to the next one.
@frankcasey7423
@frankcasey7423 3 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of the shady and confusing cases of late. So many questions still have to answered makes you believe “they” are definitely hiding something. Another thing is did they do a toxicology report? I wonder if there was GHB in his system? I think the family should keep fighting to have the case reopened and a second autopsy done and a toxicology performed and test for the drug GHB (date rape drug) Excellent job presenting this case as usual! I love your channel, keep up the great work you do and catch ya on the next one! Take care now! Frank from Philadelphia, PA. U.S.A.
@josefinevomberg8437
@josefinevomberg8437 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work. With Text is good, I can understand better.
@madtrade
@madtrade 3 жыл бұрын
i find it crazy that he could lost himself in the forest. it's EXTREMLY hard to get lost where he was. france is densely populated even in remote aera you can always heard civilization or see the lights of a city and was even able to make a call !
@stuckinlimbo613
@stuckinlimbo613 3 жыл бұрын
Trees and snow are great sound suppressors.
@germanwolf9212
@germanwolf9212 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuckinlimbo613 on Western European hiking trails it's near impossible to get lost and not hear or see any sign of civilization. Especially where Lucas was hiking. This makes this case so weird in my opinion.
@DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis
@DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis 3 жыл бұрын
Ever tried living off the beaten path in of those quaint Communes? France is not densely populated outside the cities.
@Tom-uv7ry
@Tom-uv7ry 2 жыл бұрын
You literally no idea why you're talking about child.
@Tom-uv7ry
@Tom-uv7ry 2 жыл бұрын
@@germanwolf9212 literally don't know what you're talking about thousands of people get lost every year in Europe and in Britain go back too sleep
@LividGoat
@LividGoat 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading. Youre one of my few faviorte channels!
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! I'm glad you like it so much
@norascott2565
@norascott2565 3 жыл бұрын
The authorities should have been on this the minute he called them. Out of all of these strange disappearances the fact he reported himself is a first. I think parallel dimensions with other wordly beings are at work here.........we know very little about our world, to be honest.
@LisaCooper-thevegan-123
@LisaCooper-thevegan-123 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! Thank you Adam. Another weird one that is so confusing and sad. Have a great week 👏♥️♥️♥️
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening and no kidding, this one was really quite odd -- and I'm wishing you a good week too ♥️♥️♥️
@LisaCooper-thevegan-123
@LisaCooper-thevegan-123 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissingVoidTV Thanks for your reply! Have a wonderful day and evening Adam!👍😀♥️♥️
@ArtByHazel
@ArtByHazel 3 жыл бұрын
How bizarre! Why didn’t he had someone as a buddy while hiking? Thanks for the hard work, Adam. I feel for everyone who lost family members that seem odd.. Rest in peace young man.
@patriciacrompton6290
@patriciacrompton6290 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your voice as a narrator. And, your stories are awesome. Great job mate. Keep up the good work. And, thank you for your hard work.
@lynnqueen3161
@lynnqueen3161 3 жыл бұрын
Something is totally f' ed up here with this one big time! The family should have looked inside the casket and they need to hire a private detective to investigate all of this for sure!
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 2 жыл бұрын
They should of allowed dna testing if his body was in a horrible condition. They could of given his clothes back or something to help them get some closure
@bcklj
@bcklj 3 жыл бұрын
this is completely unrelated but I'm French and the way you say "gendarmes" is adorable
@christeengrob6828
@christeengrob6828 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the rabbit hole is deep on this story ! Very sketchy indeed !
@barbarawright5774
@barbarawright5774 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Your research is phenomenal. Fabulous channel/clips.
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the channel Barbara, and thank you, I very much appreciate that
@Jess-vl9ks
@Jess-vl9ks 3 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed today. 😁😁
@creenation6609
@creenation6609 3 жыл бұрын
Just like most people.. I have watched several channels out there on Missing people!!.. The research, time, effort & money that a person puts into these stories. Is just amazing!! Pretty interesting on how each Narration is from channel to channel. But, the 'Most' impressive thing that separates the good from the "Best!!" In my eyes.. Is the fact that this channel addresses his fans/Viewers. 🦅
@ratgirl13
@ratgirl13 3 жыл бұрын
I think the authorities are hiding something, and I think there was a third party involved and I’m not sure that it’s Lucas in that coffin. It’s beyond bizarre that something like this could happen, and that the family has not gotten answers nor the closure that they need-my condolences for their loss.
@BridgetRose1
@BridgetRose1 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, sounds like a cover up at a high level
@harleyanne3720
@harleyanne3720 3 жыл бұрын
Yes something isn’t kosher here. Doesn’t take a detective to figure this out!
@liliya4523
@liliya4523 3 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something? 🧐 I heard him say they family questions if it was him in the coffin, but is there a specific reason why?? Or is it just because they wouldn't let them see the body? 🤔
@deeannwatson4453
@deeannwatson4453 3 жыл бұрын
It is refreshing that you go right into the story instead of griping to the audience for 20 minutes first like some missing people channels do......
@katmack4215
@katmack4215 3 жыл бұрын
How lost could you be..while being that close to the trail,and so very close to the parking lot? 🤔 at that distance,anyone yelling his name,would have easily been heard. This is DEFINITELY strange! Prayers for his family,friends,and especially his mother ❤
@travkeyes
@travkeyes 2 жыл бұрын
yes this is exactly what i said, how could the others not find him? were they not yelling for him? was he not yelling for them? like wtf, how could it happen at all...
@lindalewis5066
@lindalewis5066 3 жыл бұрын
While watching another missing person's channel a viewer mentioned yours. Thought I'd stop by & check you out. This was quite the story. So I decided to subscribe & check out more of your videos. 👍
@yettobseen
@yettobseen 3 жыл бұрын
What could have caused his confusion? Was there something someone else keeping him lost, or hidden from rescuers?
@matthewmosier8439
@matthewmosier8439 2 жыл бұрын
If you've ever studied the disappearances in state parks in the U.S. this case looks a lot like some of them. A person will vanish in an instant, sonetimes they are found dead, sometimes found alive, sometimes never found at all. Very unexplainable because kids have been found miles from where they disappeared and the ones found alive can't really remember what happened or explain the travel. In one horrific case, a young boy was lost and the last sighting of him was somebody seeing a boy dragged suddenly backwards into a clifftop cave. They say he looked distressed and there was really no way that he could have reached the location in the anount of time he had been gone.
@reclaimingminds2811
@reclaimingminds2811 2 жыл бұрын
That poor young man, lost and afraid being told that he had to find his own way back! Unbelievable! I don't understand how no one from his group noticed that he was absent! RI Lucas 💚
@1961-v9k
@1961-v9k 3 жыл бұрын
How on earth did his friends not realise he was missing ? It’s just perplexing !
@itsthenewsouth
@itsthenewsouth 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Adam's attention to detail by always taking the time to learn how to pronounce names properly in his videos.
@DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis
@DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis 3 жыл бұрын
One would assume a slight dose of sarcasm in the above comment
@micheljavert5923
@micheljavert5923 3 жыл бұрын
We've got at least one hit on the Paulides Bingo Card (body found near previously searched area) and maybe a second one (death through undetermined cause/"exposure"). There is a bit of a contradiction present in the statements concerning the state of the body, which might be a product of translation issues. On the one hand, the authorities report that there is no sign of trauma that would indicate third-party involvement. But on the other, they insist the body is too damaged by exposure to be viewed by the family, which implies a sealed coffin. I'm not aware of all the civilian conditions under which it happens (doubly so in France), but sealed coffin burials are more of a military tradition (granted the gendarmerie was involved). Usually done when either your family really wouldn't want to see what's left of you, or they sent back a coffin full of sand because there wasn't anything left of you. So on its face, that's an odd little detail. Real odd.
@typster
@typster 3 жыл бұрын
People in Europe don't do open casket/coffin burials that much.. Some of course, but it's largely American tradition.
@micheljavert5923
@micheljavert5923 3 жыл бұрын
​@@typster Ah, I did not know that it was a European tradition to seal coffins in such a way that they cannot be opened after a body is placed inside. It's curious why the family being unable to view the body was pointed out. Unless of course the strangeness is in the French authorities sealing away the body and interring it with (presumably) little interaction with the family beyond a burial notice. But if it's normal to seal caskets, then perhaps the French authorities thought they were performing a kindness for the family.
@esterherschkovich6499
@esterherschkovich6499 3 жыл бұрын
Videos done with respect,feel for the family..😪
@igor8827
@igor8827 3 жыл бұрын
I do remember this case very well, it’s well known that search for him was really badly done, because search party was thinking that he left intentionally… hello from France 🇫🇷..PS: for other cases as this case also, there is almost not possible to see someone from helicopter, specifically in forest… other strange thing is that gendarmerie refused to use dogs to look for him..
@MissingVoidTV
@MissingVoidTV 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, why did the gendarmerie turn away the dogs? Did they ever give a reason? That's difficult to understand
@igor8827
@igor8827 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissingVoidTV that was not official statement concerning this refusal… but as I wrote you earlier this disappearance is not only strange thing that happened there , they found body of woman with all facial bones fractured in that area in 2017..
@johnblackwell7717
@johnblackwell7717 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Job again Adam!!!!!!!!! :)
@blknitenca
@blknitenca 3 жыл бұрын
So in France, the government has the say so on who can see the body and when it's buried? The boys parents or someone should've been allowed to identify the bodyif they wanted. This makes no sense to me.
@user-mv9tt4st9k
@user-mv9tt4st9k 3 жыл бұрын
I used to know a guy who worked at a mortuary. One of the deceased was a man in his 20s who was hiking near some falls with friends and managed to cross a barrier and fall into the river below. It was two to three weeks before his body was found, it had been in the water and was a mess. The authorities sent the body to the mortuary without the parents seeing it. The family, especially the man's father, wanted to see the man one last time. The body, the man's face, it really was a mess. My friend explained as gently as he could that the man's son was unrecognizable and no amount of mortuary makeup would allow for an open casket funeral. I do not remember if in the end the father was persuaded to let his son be remembered as he was in life.
@rainluna9765
@rainluna9765 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-mv9tt4st9k The family still should have the right, not have it denied them by others.
@FearEeatsTheSoul
@FearEeatsTheSoul 3 жыл бұрын
You’re Very Thorough, and speak very well. NO BS, just straight to the point. Subscribed! Phoenix,Arizona USA “Phoenix Lights” 🛸
@shannonessig5959
@shannonessig5959 3 жыл бұрын
It seems odd that, if he was trying to find his way out for hours (as he states on the 10:30ish phone call with 112), and his group was searching for him from about 8 to 11, they would be shouting his name. He would hear them, and either respond to them, so they could find him... or he could move in the direction they were in. Also, if his family was not allowed to see his body, who identified him? My goodness! They wouldn't even let his mother verify that it was her son? Is that a French thing? Even if it's not suspicious, it's cruel. "Here's a box with your son in it. Don't open it. Just trust us. It's him. How'd he die? Dunno. But he's dead, and he's in the box." Sheesh.
@davidrose6445
@davidrose6445 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@atmywhitson
@atmywhitson 3 жыл бұрын
I'd have the body exhumed if I were them! Very strange indeed!
@Issac_The_Last_N7
@Issac_The_Last_N7 3 жыл бұрын
I watch many different channels about mysteries but you're definitely my favorite
@savageandthebeasts8388
@savageandthebeasts8388 3 жыл бұрын
BTW, the "Me" before Elsa Ghanassia's name stands for "Maître", which translates as Master in English
@vincentallenson5748
@vincentallenson5748 3 жыл бұрын
It's quite a bit of work, I'm assuming, in putting together these videos. The narration with all of the video work, the backdrops in motion and following the details with written script, this is one of channel, is easy and very intriguing to watch and hear. Thank you
@scartissuefilms
@scartissuefilms 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting case. The phone call, and the search shortly afterwards tends to suggest that he died suddenly. My guess would be anaphylactic shock, which could kill you in 15 minutes, but they'd probably have found that on the autopsy. So maybe, a sudden drop in blood pressure, or some kind of minor heart defect that stopped his heart beating due to exhaustion and stress.
@candyrain09able
@candyrain09able 3 жыл бұрын
Its not a mystery that Top Mysteries just made my day. 👍❤👍
@Wherethewindblows524
@Wherethewindblows524 3 жыл бұрын
Another strange finding. Good job honey
@gavinsticko7190
@gavinsticko7190 3 жыл бұрын
Wanted to say thanks for these vids, very much enjoy these stories.
@GH-cz4zr
@GH-cz4zr 3 жыл бұрын
Thought, once rested, Lucas would have carried on trying to find his way back. Instead, it seems he stayed when his legs were tired , odd for a fit young man?
@Amylovescats
@Amylovescats 3 жыл бұрын
I just found your channels and I can’t get over how high quality your videos are. Great analysis and can I get a round of applause for citations 🙌🏻 love to see people citing their sources!! If I could make a small recommendation, from my iPhone, it’s hard to read the citation in the bottom right bc it’s super small. I’d love to see the actual source, on screen, a bit larger. 🙏🏻 either way, subscribed! Also with respect to this case, why hasn’t anyone looked at his phone records apart from the emergency call? Like what was the location of his phone during those hours and/or he didn’t call or text any of his friends?? That seems a bit hard to believe if his phone was working.
@narcissusnarcosis614
@narcissusnarcosis614 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's definitely bizarre! To ultimately be found so close to the trail is fkn wild.
@sjuultjefromthelake4264
@sjuultjefromthelake4264 10 күн бұрын
Hello Kalle, first I want to say a big THANK YOU for this topic, im glad that you dare to do this. Like the most reactions here, I think we all could write a book of what we wend through these last almost 5 years. as a Dutch living in Sweden I have to say, I love the nature I can go in, but the system now scares me, especially nobody's speaking about this topic, it almost makes me feel like the movie from the 60ties The Time Machine when he meets the eloi and the monsters that comes out in the dark. and of course The Truman show, that was my first thought in this shitshow we are in! thank you Kalle and familie for daring to speak this topic, you made my day 🙏. greeting from the High Coast.
@HomesteadGirls
@HomesteadGirls 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to tell my experience in a situation like this. I had a good friend die unexpectedly. His body was not suitable for a viewing. After the autopsy he was immediately cremated. When you get to the denial part of mourning, not seeing the remains is cruel. I don't know why westerns society thinks you're being helped by not seeing the body. His father wanted to drive him home so I know it was him. That helped a lot. I could trust him. I can't imagine the cruelty of not letting the family see him. To be the parents and not being able to move past the denial state is just unfair. "Saving" the loved ones from some imagined last memory is just stupid.
@BongHitta
@BongHitta 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos brother. Was hoping you'd cover the disturbing case of the Jamison family, I'd love to get your take on that
@tonetone8980
@tonetone8980 3 жыл бұрын
Day just got a whole lot better
@marinakaiser7639
@marinakaiser7639 3 жыл бұрын
Hey also very nice to be back 😊was some time not on KZbin but now i'm back,and very curious at your stories as always 🙋‍♀️👍🥰
@jgood9810
@jgood9810 3 жыл бұрын
You should check out the "Colonial Parkway Murders" in the Yorktown, Jamestown, Williamsburg area of Virginia. Several young couples went missing or were found murdered in the mid 1980s to the early 1990s
@norascott2565
@norascott2565 3 жыл бұрын
F.Y.I.- There are people commenting on your channel over at Missing Persons Mysteries!!! Bravo!!! Good work!!!
@dnr2089
@dnr2089 3 жыл бұрын
Weird that the operator told him to try to make his way back…..wouldn’t the normal thing be to tell him to stay put, so they could trace him? 🤔
@nancyM1313
@nancyM1313 3 жыл бұрын
😃👍hello and thank you for uploading today!
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