Torchwood 1x10 "Out of Time" Reaction

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[@GeorgeAlexander3110]

this has to be one of the best episodes of Torchwood! no monsters, no villains, no plan, just people

[@tycol322]

I think that was what made torchwood great. They handled topics and concepts that doctor who couldn't

[@epiccarrot88]

Honestly, Series 1 of Torchwood has a lot of dud episodes for me. It seems the writers took 'do what you can't on DW' as sex and gore. Episodes like this and Countryside, where the episode themes are so incredibly dark to the point where they wouldn't even fit into Doctor Who, are the highlights of Series 1 imo. Doctor Who has never been about sex and gore, but it's done dark stories before, and the Torchwood episodes that go further with that concept are incredible.

[@Noinden]

Welcome to the point where Torchwood becomes a show that rips your heart out through good storytelling .... it does not get any less dark or easy, but its some really great stories to come

[@jacobhogan3208]

In some ways it gets darker (I think you know what I'm talking about) torch wood has always made me feel uneasy because I don't like depressing or disturbing stuff.

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

and then theres the final season..

[@estoy1001]

"She doesn't tell him that somebody's in their house?" There's a lot of stuff Gwen doesn't tell him.

[@Amadeus_Phoenix]

It's such a shame too, he's the nicest guy in the world and I bet if she'd just said "this girl was in trouble, I can't tell you what was going on because of my work, but she needs help and I couldn't turn her away" he'd have been entirely on board with doing what he could.

[@habitsrabbit]

@@Amadeus_Phoenix exactly! If she just says she needs help, I'm sure he'll agree. Gwen doesn't deserve him imo

[@the_nikster1]

@@Amadeus_Phoenix exactly. Rhys is such a good guy and I was always so angry at Gwen for how much she lies to him.

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

Fun Fact: Louise Delamere (who played Diane) and David Tennant became really close friends while in drama school together in their late teens/early 20s and even shared a flat together (owned by Tennant's sister) for a few years. They're still besties. :)

[@sukiwah]

Nicole Mazza that’s actually awesome!

[@kassidyj97]

Always nice to see a fun fact that is actually interesting! Thanks for sharing 😊😊😊

[@mattthesilent777RED]

I chose Louise Delamere to play the Surgeon, a character I created who's a Time Lady substitute for both Captain Jack and River Song as they don't exist in her universe. The Surgeon is basically a dark, edgy, more carefree and flirtatious heroine compared to the Doctor

[@JayceMaxwell]

Sometimes Torchwood doesn't have anything to fight, nothing to win against. Sometimes, all they can do is pick up the pieces. Those are the moments that hit the hardest.

[@xenon8117]

That’s what makes this better than doctor who sometimes. Not every episode ends well or can end well.

[@LiamDuke]

Oh hell yes, what an episode

[@chaseenthusiast2321]

That bit with Alan always makes me cry. No matter how many times I watch the episode. Every time.

[@garycullen7390]

THE OLDER CHAP SEEING HIS SON BREAKS MY HEART EVERY TIME

[@TheRedLittleGirl]

And once again I’m crying simply from watching your reaction to something, and not even the whole episode. But really, this episode gets me every time as well. It’s brilliant, and it’s a great character piece and the one-off characters are brilliant (and heartbreaking). Lots of great thoughts in your after-reaction discussion. And thank you for opening up about your history with Alzheimer’s, I can understand that being emotional. I’ve not had any family members go through that, but I’ve worked with people going through that and it’s always difficult, but I thought that this scene portrayed it really well, even if heartbreaking. Also sending hugs to you after this episode. Loving your Torchwood reactions and how much you’re loving the characters. They’re all pretty phenomenal.

[@DaveF.]

Oh! Love the little detail I never noticed before - after the trip to the supermarket, Emma makes tea by tearing open tea-bags and pouring the contents into a teapot. Lovely!

[@Wannabe_Baby]

This and Random Shoes are a double-whammy of great series one episodes. The two episodes that I really felt like Torchwood was doing something special that Doctor Who really couldn't. I'm sorry it made you cry. I hope you're okay. Thank you for sharing the story about your grandfather. That must have been so difficult for you and your family to go through. I'm so sorry.

[@Payne2view]

I've flown in one of those biplanes and my first ever flight was from that airfield, 40 years ago this September.

[@robinnes2662]

Thanks for sharing that with us Jess. It’s so rare to find somebody on KZbin who is so emotionally honest as you which is why I think you have so many fans. We all utterly adore you and everything you do and the fact you do so much charity work after your experiences is so lovely and I hope you find it helpful in coping what you had to go through with your grandfather, who was obviously incredibly lucky to have you there with him. ❤️

[@EternalPayne]

This episode broke my heart.... I felt so bad for owen

[@RomanCoronado]

For me this was the episode of Torchwood that finally hooked me. The first 9 episodes took me a while to get through but once I hit this one it was much more smooth sailing from here. Happy you got to this episode, I knew this one would get you in the feels.

[@zdcosner3766]

When you watched the Goodbye Sarah Jane Smith episode and mentioned how you don’t like memory loss stuff after seeing Sarah Jane lose her memories, I now understand why it got to you. I’m sorry about your Grandfather. Very sad to hear that. This is definitely one of the best episodes for Torchwood in its early seasons. The story of three characters being lost in time and having to adapt to an era that they haven’t grown up or lived in is very compelling but interesting too. Emma was the only one to adapt and make a new life for herself. I like how you mentioned how it started in reverse with Emma struggling to adapt while Diane and John have a better start but they slowly struggle to cope. Although I feel Diane’s arc with Owen was slightly rushed and could have been developed more. But this is a solid story about people from a different era struggling to cope. The bonds they develop with Jack, Gwen and Owen are really captivating to watch too. Great reaction. I loved how you had a lot to say about this one. Very emotional and moving.

[@christhornycroft3686]

There isn't a show on American TV with the wit, bravery and intelligence of Torchwood.

[@deebeedaydreamer]

I miss my dad - 🙁 I miss my best friend - ☹ I miss my dog - 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😢😭😢😭😢😭😢😭😢😢😢😭😢😭😢😭😢😭😭😢😭😭😢😢

[@bobsteele9581]

Great episode - great reaction. Heartbreaking stuff. What you should know about the final ep of series 1 and the first ep of series 2 (no spoilers - honest): - The ending leads into the Doctor Who episode "Utopia" and "Last of the Time Lords" leads into the start of series 2 of Torchwood. So the events in "Utopia", "The Sound of Drums" and "Last of the Time Lords" is basically what Captain Jack was doing between series 1 and 2 of Torchwood.

[@carlosyoung1629]

Thank you for sharing your story about your grandfather in this review. We only got a short time seeing this at it was heartbreaking. For you to have seen the whole process must have been difficult. Xx

[@Epsilon1Zeta]

Brave heart sesskasays! When Torchwood is good, it is extremely good. And this little story with its trio of out-of-their own time individuals is superb. It is also interesting to see how the three from the 1950s fare in 21st Century South Wales, and their impact on their respective carers/handlers from Torchwood.

[@MrDylancutter]

Glad you loved this episode, it’s definitely my favourite of the season! I can relate on the emotion you felt for John’s son with dementia, my gran has dementia and it’s very tough to watch someone be so confused and frustrated all the time. The music in this episode is so beautiful too, I love rewatching this story. Thanks for a great reaction ❤️

[@DaveF.]

Goodness - I'd forgotten so much about this episode - and completely forgot the aspects that must have hit you the hardest - such a good episode, and I'm glad you felt it too.

[@jokerz7936]

One of my favorite Torchwood episodes.

[@resiseven7407]

my personal favourite standalone episode of torchwood. outstanding tv

[@robinevans3440]

Been waiting all day for this...lovely episode...About to watch review😂

[@roydurham6793]

Your reaction was moving. We lost my mom to this disease. And seeing the man have to see his son going through it. Heartbreaking!!! Torchwood - Love It. But it ain’t Dr. Who. It will take you places Dr. Who never would.

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Owen can't tie a tie that's my theory 🙂

[@deebeedaydreamer]

Omg. The length of the review on this video.😯 It's definitely one that needs a recovery time.😆

[@spideyfrommars9218]

Yes, it’s a moving episode and all, but I feel the really important question is.... what happened to the Tardis and Walking Dead figurines that used to be on Jess’s shelf?

[@francisbartoszewski2284]

This is probably my favourite episode of the whole show.

[@FirlowXD]

I WAS READY FOR THIS But I knew you wouldn't be!

[@thewerewolff7248]

this episode is really good. i forgot how good it was.

[@JustB3NJI]

This story had me in tears too lol.

[@geoffmason7215]

Owen has feelings OUTSIDE HIS PANTS !!!!!!

[@ihatemymeds]

I think the tie thing was just trying to give himself the rat pack look. Lol

[@ListerDavid]

This to me is the biggest punch in the feels in series 1.

[@simonbeaird7436]

This is easily the best episode of Series 1. Such a strong story with great performances.

[@Phoenix-bi9bn]

I kinda hate that everytime there is a bit I know you'll love you talk to us and miss it. But that's part of your charm, I never know what's coming. Glad you liked this one, I loved watching this video

[@adamsmart1075]

Speaking of people becoming trapped out of their own time, who would like Jess to react to Life on Mars (UK) and Ashes to Ashes? There are a lot of specific British references in those shows which might not translate though. I think she would quite enjoy those shows if she did them.

[@whobp8]

I did "enjoy" the tears. Thank you so much for sharing the story about your grandfather. It's clear that this episode hit close to home for you. I love this episode. It's tied with Countrycide for my favorite from this season. Beautiful episode, beautiful reaction.

[@luciasantiagotaylor8817]

Love this episide even though it has me crying too! Owen really managed to shock me when I first saw it, who knew he was an old romantic! And the alzheimer's bit always gets me too, my mum has it and its a terrible disease, I understand how painful and emotional it was for you and I appreciate your honesty in all your reactions x

[@TheClashCrafts]

This episode... was my favourite in season 1, and my 3rd favourite over all

[@MrDarkwing78]

I knew this episode would break you multiple times! One of the best written and, occasionally, most gut wrenching episodes in season 1. I bet you never saw the relationship of Owen and Dianne coming, and more to the point, how much of an old romantic he could be!

[@bethanyp2731]

This episode got to me too! It was painful just the fact that it was so different in the fact that there’s no aliens no threat just human nature and how we’d cope with the unexpected. It’s heart wrenching because any era would be the same I think it just glimpses into how hard something like this would actually be out of time but as you say it connects deeply with us as you where gently touching on the story of your grandfather that’s tough really tough for anyone to cope with. I was getting emotional just listening to your story. Sending kindness and hugs from the UK XXXXXX You’re a wonderful person Sesskasays xxxx

[@geo3401]

I liked how fragile was the portrayal of middle aged masculinity in this one. So accurate and such a moving thing to embrace.

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

I love that though. It starts with him being the tough one but in the end he's the one who has it worst

[@mellchiril]

The power of Torchwood.

[@robvanriot]

Oh Jess, you're such a wonderful soul. The world needs more people like you!

[@thomasstevens2746]

Really liked the concept of this episode

[@Lia-uf1ir]

One NEVER has to apologize for crying! :)

[@ernesthakey3396]

Most intense Torchwood episode ever.

[@stevencrighton6890]

Not even started this video yet but I know this one will have you in tears 💔

[@Stolkmen]

Great episode of Torchwood. Fantastic addition to my Tuesdays is your reaction to such an awesome show and a really good episode.

[@tomkvideo]

Best episode of Season 1. Probably top three of the whole show.

[@cameronmonaghan6883]

Love the fact that Torchwood explored pretty much all the problems of the rift. Not just aliens but also people. And that the effect is so random those who travel through just have to go along with it. And try to move on. Tragically not everyone can

[@blueashke]

This episode did the same thing to me when I watched it. I grew up with my dad having MS and losing his mind (thankfully in our estimation) last. Sending internet hugs and assurances that you weren't over the top. I love watching you react to this show (especially when you're calling Ianto Sugar Bear lol)

[@rhyscarter3939]

This is what Russell T Davies does to you; he rips out your heart, but you love him for it. He is truly one of the greatest writers Britain has ever produced. This is one of my favourite episodes.

[@osumarko]

Breaks my heart when you cry during your reaction. I hope you caught the name of the writer of the next episode when you did your reaction.

[@ms_scribbles]

What a gorgeous episode.

[@Tyranniod]

Best episode of season one. Torchwood was magical in that it didn't need a monster of the week to keep the viewers watching.

[@deebeedaydreamer]

Ugh, this episode breaks my heart so hard!😭

[@aureliaansah1462]

One of my favourite reactions of one of my favourite series.

[@jeckjeck3119]

Many more tears to come, sesskasays . (T-T) You must stay strong.

[@robinevans3440]

Spoilers

[@mrsaxon1013]

lol why am I seeing you everywhere now XD

[@jetstream222]

NO SPOILERS! (not shooting anyone in the foot here). But you should watch a show called Years and Years after finishing this one. Curiously, as it happens, by the very same RTD. If your curious about the reasoning behind Jack’s opening lines. At the start. Of each episode. ...I’m not bitter.

[@wardjunior1450]

Wow It doesn’t feel like it’s been a week since the last reaction but I checked earlier and it said 6 days and I uh, was shocked and stuff Anyway, this is one of the best eps

[@SamDavs]

Such a beautiful episode

[@Ladco77]

Why doesn't Owen tie his tie? I'm going on the assumption it was tied earlier in the evening and we only saw the end of their night out. Owen is used to playing and walking away without regard to his lover's feelings. It was good for someone to do that do him, ironically by someone who believes in meaningful relationships rather than casual ones. (I don't mean that like I'm glad it happened. I think he needed to experience that to grow as a person.) As for John Ellis meeting his son, all I have to say is fuck Alzheimer's. Yes, that one hits too close to home for me as well. My dad. Jack looking so heartbroken that he couldn't die with him was amazing. I think Emma will do well. She's young enough and seems adaptable enough (despite her difficulty coping at first) that she'll be able to adjust.

[@Turambar88]

My Grandpa had alzheimers too. I hate it. I'm already crying, and I won't go into it here, but I relate really strongly here. He passed away 8 years ago this week.

[@josefschiltz2192]

Sympathies and empathy Jess. Dementia and Alzheimers, not an easy subject to talk about. Being a carer, from experience, can overwhelmingly drain everything from you if somebody isn't there to step in. The only reason I could stop was that I ended up in hospital and, because no beds could be found in a care facility, my mother was placed in the next ward. I was completely exhausted and when, eventually, a bed was found, I just broke down. Still, after I was released from hospital, it was barely a fortnight's respite before I had to look after her for further months until a permanent place for her was found. That extra time virtually crippled me through lack of rest and sleep.

[@flowersrainbows9703]

The girl In the blue t shirt ...was in coronation Street called caz

[@the_nikster1]

dammit! another reaction where I'm crying because you're crying lol but I do honestly remember crying ugly tears during that scene near the end with Jack...it's so emotional. plus I teared up with Owen because I felt so sorry for him. he is definitely one of my favorite characters. I love that you are loving these characters as much as I do 😍this was one of my all-time favorite episodes of the entire series for sure.

[@CB-kc4it]

This is always a hard one to watch. Such a well written episode!

All the feelings!!!

[@meropetied]

So yeah, season one did have this other really great episode, just after the first one I loved, Random Shoes. And it really still is sort of a one off, but it presents again, like the pilot did, the way this show is the intentional great complementary series to Doctor Who. This is a show where the aftermath of the fantastical alien things gets to be explored, Earth's own response to the big bad problems. With the Doctor, it's all managed in 45-90 minutes over a few hours or days of adventure. On Torchwood, it's LONG TERM problems and interesting damage. When they made fun of it in Voyage of the Damned (everyone leaves London at Christmas), on Torchwood they take these more disturbing longterm outcomes head on. This is the genius and the big dramatic potential of Torchwood. And when they play to that strength, with fantastically interesting and moving inevitable situations, this show really did rock so hard.

[@augustandjune]

Owen almost became a normal human being in this episode.

[@paulmoore4223]

Sending a hug

[@solarconker]

First half is so wholesome while the second half is so sad

[@bronlokis]

2:15 oww, oh, ok, alright, my feels are getting feely right now.

[@tideoftime]

Gurl... I haven't even watched the video yet and I know this one is gonna getcha'...

[@obiwankenobi687]

I love how they tried their best to make ‘we can be fuck buddies’ romantic

[@3DMaterializer]

Gwen is presented as a flawed character. There is a difference between not being able to tell someone something and deciding to lie to them. She could tell Reese that her job requires her not to reveal some things to him and get him to understand. Instead she keeps lying which is unnecessarily dishonest. She also had an affair with Owen and kissed Jack on the lips to thank him which sends crossed signals to your new boss. I’m surprised you edited out your reaction to Diane’s reaction when she pulled the dress that Owen bought her out of the bag. Especially since the coloring is so close to your current theme.

[@3DMaterializer]

The reason his tie was untied was he was going for a Frank Sinatra vibe.

[@shwenty1734]

This episode is fucking heartbreaking

[@zakjaggs9761]

I think Owens quick attachment(a common criticism) can be justified by the intensity of living with someone and his backstory

[@davile_1428]

Happy Endings: *exist* Torchwood: 7:21

[@andrewbowman4611]

The next episode will be interesting, especially if she spots who wrote it.

[@zakjaggs9761]

Been waiting

[@P5YcHoKiLLa]

3:47 Cathartic

[@zoppie]

Personally, I'd love nothing more than to take a short flight into the next century and have a small group of professionals already waiting for me there to help me adjust to all the changes. As marvelous an age as we live in today, I'm certain it could not hold a candle to what is yet to come.

[@tycol322]

Jack and emotion? Woo boy.... Honey you ain't seen nothing yet

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Easily my favourite Torchwood episode there is (although there's plenty more good to come)

[@AC-gb7do]

Last time I was first, Jack was mortal.

[@EternalPayne]

Last time you was first that joke was funny....

[@AC-gb7do]

TheLokiDoki OG Wow, funny guy. 🙄

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Was it really? Cause that'd be a long time with her order.

[@aidanvickery7308]

Sees your reaction was beautiful.

[@CaesiusX]

Being a fully formed adult that has been in a number of relationships over the years, I never understood Gwen's decision not to share what she really does with Rhys. Of course, even as I write that I realize it's simply the chosen plot device. But it's not what I would have done, were I in her position.

[@mayaenglish5424]

To be fair, she's not allowed to. It's not her decision. Calling it a plot device is a little unfair considering there are real life parallels, if you work for a secret agency, you keep your mouth shut, even with your spouse. That being said, she could do a waaaaaaaaaaay better job lying truthfully. Like, Gwen, tell as much truth as you can without spilling the beans about Torchwood. She could have said "hey honey, I met this girl on the job and she really needs some help right now, can't tell you the specifics, thank you so much for understanding, love you" or whatever. The real problem is that she's cheating on Rhys and lying about everything, including things she doesn't need to lie about for her job, until lying becomes automatic for her.

[@mayaenglish5424]

@@CaesiusX I think other than the job secrecy thing, we agree that Gwen needs to get her shit together lol. In the Show, most people DON'T know about aliens. It's dismissed as mass hallucination or terrorism. They sometimes play it for laughs like when that old lady said "Bloody Torchwood" but by and large, people don't know about aliens through some timey-wimey plot conveniences that they explained in Doctor Who but I don't remember in enough detail to type out coherently in a youtube comment lol. Now, I'll acknowledge that the Torchwood team thoroughly sucks at stealth, but they are still a secret organization. (CoughCoughPizzadeliveryCoughCough) During WWII people lied their asses off to their spouses, not just about what their job entailed, but What their job actually Was. Code Breakers, spies, scientists working on the Manhattan project. People lie about what their job is if it's important enough. (I'm not saying It's healthy, I'm saying there's precedent) I do wish she'd follow your relationship advice though, poor Rhys. If she put the effort in to sort of "translate" her work into what Rhys thinks her job is (Anti-Terrorism?), then she could still talk to him a little bit. He's expecting some secrecy. The problem is she doesn't give him anything to work with. I do agree that people tend to respond to what isn't said as well as to what is. Usually when people single something out as a plot device they do so in a derogatory way so I did make an assumption. It is pretty funny when she get's indignant about other people keeping something from her, pot, kettle, much? I do love her but I want to shake her sometimes... I hope you're safe as well! Thank you for the nerd debate, I'm so bored! lol :)

[@CaesiusX]

*[Oops. Sorry, I was correcting something and deleted this comment in error.]* I see where you're coming from. And I think the problem with our miscommunication is that I didn't elaborate. But that's a problem with *all comments,* IMO.¹ I think we are in agreement, for the most part. In a situation like hers, as with any government asset with _top secret_ clearance, you're not keeping your _job_ a secret. You're allowed to say, _"I work here, but I can't tell you certain things."_ It is the difference between _that_ and *_completely misleading_* the person you love most. You're keeping *the secrets* secret. That's the difference that I was trying to talk about. IMO, that's what makes it a plot device.² Because she _can tell him_ *some* of what she's doing. They've had aliens in abundance in full view of the public. So it's not _that_ hush-hush. Specific details are certainly best kept secret. The name *Torchwood* _is known._ She can tell him she's working with *Torchwood* (and explain _roughly_ what it is they do), but she can't tell him the _details._ That is being as honest with your partner as you can be. Which is the primary point I was trying to make. Not the technical intricacies regarding work-related secrecy. But rather the honesty one should want to share with a partner, otherwise they are not your partner. Of course, that's _the best case scenario_ in real life. We'd have no drama without this stuff. When I say it's a plot point, like you said, it's also very much who *Gwen* is. She's not only secretive (and dishonest in other ways), she seems to make personal determinations as to _who needs to know what,_ because she feels it's what's best for them. Which makes it all the more humorous when she gets indignant when something has been kept from her. 😏 Be well. Stay safe.😷 ••✸•• *¹* ─ Oftentimes (but not to this degree in our situation) we tend to address _what wasn't said_ in comments. A seemingly arbitrary example would be if I left a comment in which I told people _"I put on my left shoe."_ I would get replies which may include, _"Why didn't you put on your right shoe as well?"_ When I hadn't said a thing, one way or the other, about my right shoe.🤷🏼‍♂️ *²* ─ Please don't misunderstand me. I do not believe _plot device_ is a dirty phrase.

[@CaesiusX]

I hear you. 😄 You mentioned World War II. You're absolutely right, of course. One thing that has always astounded me, even saddened me, is how closed off people were, even to their own spouses. Not even those who _needed_ to be under the circumstances we were discussing. Just looking at how husbands and wives and parents and kids interacted just two generations back. I imagine it still happens in households all over, of course (those fortunate enough to have both parents in their lives). But the *evolution* of interpersonal relations is one that I am so happy to see. When I look back, I find it rather heartbreaking. It certainly wasn't the case for _everyone._ But it seemed the majority. As an exception, I look at one of the films about *Ruth Bader Ginsburg,* and see how her husband is portrayed. It just seems so _modern._ But I imagine there were a number of relationships that were truly loving and *_supportive._* There had to have been. But there were also those which had the husband hanging out at the lodge with the other husbands. Or wives with their corresponding social club. Getting from their peers what they couldn't get from their partners. Bonding with you're given sex likely provides a legitimate sociological benefit, and perhaps even a psychologically benefit. I imagine there are needs met through that which might not be available otherwise. But it was also an example of the way men and women viewed one another and interacted. My parents, thankfully, showed me what a true partnership was. And even they both had previous marriages with kids from each, before I came along. And myself, just starting into my 50s, with a previous marriage (from when I was way too young resulting in a beautiful daughter now in her 30s), feel like I'm only _just now_ finding what _real Love_ is with my fiancé. But of course it required experiencing all which came before. The good and the bad. OMG, you were talking about boredom? 🤦🏼‍♂️ Look at me babble on! 😯 Good grief, did I ever digress! So, yeah. . . _poor _*_Rhys._* 🤪

[@mayaenglish5424]

@@CaesiusX Feel free to digress, I'm basically a hermit now so this is the longest conversation I've had in a month. ;)

[@RPGLoverFF]

This prolly seems really unorthodox, but...am I the only one who kinda wishes we get a rewatch of Utopia onward, like a special or something, after the conclusion of Series 1? I know I always have to rewatch those myself when the time comes, cause MAN does it enlighten a couple things, but uh....yeah idk! Think it might be neat! Prolly WAY too much effort, but I personally think it'd be a neat sorta special, as it were.

[@giiig_gOg]

Waiting for your reaction to season 3

[@jvieceli]

{{{Hug}}}} 😞 Going through it with my mom😥

[@d.b.8165]

Dam! You just made me feel soooo sad. So sad, when you started talking about your Granddad

[@jypziiatthecrossroads9047]

Drink and cry? Not a fan, I'm more of a smoke and giggle type of person, Life is usually absurd, laughter is the best note of defiance. Owen gets some real emotional growth this episode.

[@jypziiatthecrossroads9047]

No solutions and no villain, refreshing, that's why they need to bring this show back, it was willing to take chances. (my edit button doesn't work)

[@Polyglot85to90]

This is one of my all-time favourite episodes of Torchwood. Louise Delamere in that red dress has nothing to do with it at all. Nope. Note one little bit. 🤨

[@lexxit5860]

i just never liked owen with her... had a soft spot for him n gwen 🤣🤣 even tho in the end i knew she (gwen) was meant for rhys