Tornado 280 Update....Lets Start This Thing !!!

Fueling and first start up of the Air Conception Tornado 280

[@theflyingveteran6250]

You can get a $5 syphon pump from the auto parts or hardware store. I have an electric one as well, but I hate it when I get out to the field and the battery is dead. I'm thinking about rigging up my own out of some fuel line and an outboard motor primer bulb. It'll probably last longer and reach further into my 5 gallon jug.

[@Chris-Fennimore]

New subscriber to your channel. I'm a Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Certified on Airframes with 4 or more Jet engines. I want to get into PPG.

[@BartBerry]

Hello and thank you for subscribing, and I am glad you are interested in ppg flight, it's an amazing experience :)

[@MikeSparamotor]

I wondered if u screwed an elbow where your fuel can cap goes then add a few inches of hose to that. Just a suggestion. Love the vids man

[@BartBerry]

Thank you

[@garrykennedy5484]

Bart,,, Are giving up on Fresh Breeze? Or just trying something new? Looks like you need to order a set of floats. LOL One bad thing about the pump carbs is the tendency to run lean and burning up your motor. You could use a RC fuel pump.

[@BartBerry]

Not giving up on the fresh breeze , just want to give foot launch a try

[@PPGtrikepilot]

If you Prime it right it will start pretty much first time every time. Don’t burn that starter out. They are bloody expensive.👍🇬🇧😜stand facing the car lean against it so much easier.

[@BartBerry]

Thank you, what are your recommendations when priming please ?

[@PPGtrikepilot]

Bart Berry I will pm you.👍

[@SuperGliderman]

I realy do like watching you videos honestly I do but man you do moan on about such simple things and that puts a downer on it but will keep watching you and see if we can get through a full video without a moan on but would never give you a thumbs down like a few people have because you do put out great vids and no doubt your a top bloke and realy enthusiastic about your hobby.

[@brucesweatmaniii6030]

Oh yeah, before you foot launch? get retrained!!

[@brucesweatmaniii6030]

BART ONE IMPORTANT QUESTION DID YOU TAKE THE FRESH BREEZE AND POD OUT BEHIND THE BARN YET, ... DO SOME TARGET PRACTICE YET? DONT SELL THAT CRAP TO SOME POOR SOUL. THINK OF YOU PAIN WITH IT? LOL, BUT REALLY MAKE IT INTO A LAWNMOWER BUT KEEP THE JUNK ON THE GROUND. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YA UP AND ABOUT ON YOUR NEW ONE, HOPE IT BETTER THAN THE LAST. HAPPY FLYING!! BROTHER. SHOW-EM WHAT A FARM BOY CAN DO TOO! GIDDEY UP!! SINK THE SPUR'S!

[@sanderus421]

Been watching those videos for over a year now. I'm going crazy want to fly one, but one minor problem, money. Maybe one day. Was thinking about flight junkies, but after watching your videos and reading comments, i don't know now. I guess i need to save up cash also for training.

[@someguy7258]

Use a jiggle hose. It is a hose with a little ball in one end that only lets fuel flow One Direction. Elevate the fuel can so it is higher than the tank on the paramotor put the jiggle hose without the ball end in the paramotor tank and put the ball end in the fuel can and then jiggle it in and out of the fuel can really fast and it creates a siphon and will continuously pour fuel into the paramotor tank and both ends of the jiggle hose are inside the can and the tank there will be no spilling. It is super easy and it is the way I fill mine. Worst case scenario I get one or two drips of gas when I take the hose out of the fuel tank on the paramotor.

[@NCPPGpilot]

Kudos brother! I recently tried one of them contraptions on myself. Lightweight beast for sure.

[@GoFlyBodi629]

Yeah, the fill location stinks on the Tornado. I use a cheap transfer pump to fill my tank, or a long transmission funnel. Bart, I don't have experience with the 2 blade prop, but I would think that you'd want the 3 blade for yourself. How are you liking it so far? I'm burning about 4.5 liters/hr.

[@BartBerry]

The 2 blade seems to have plenty of power, but I have plans of the 3 blade later, just went with the 2 blade while training on foot launch just in case of a prop strike, a bit cheaper to replace if it should happen ;)

[@stone8597]

That sure is a nice running motor! More vibration... probably because it's strapped to your back. It'll be interesting to see the power difference between the Monster and the 280...that 280 sure revs quickly. I have a Monster and mine runs very smooth. I think I'd get a wooden prop or two...the one you have on there now is just too pretty to break. Also about the tach and the problems filling the fuel tank... all the parameters are sold pretty much "al-cart"...expect to discover a few special needs with each one. Thanks for sharing.

[@577buttfan]

Once he gets it all broke In and tuned properly it won't vibrate as much..its still slobbering rich.

[@ParapenteAngola]

Why don't you try flattop? You will love it

[@chilledhho123]

Lake Berry

[@ollylewin]

If you guys use adblue over there the blue tube that comes with it makes a great fuel funnel for paramotors. The fuel hose of my my fuel can is a perfect fit into the adblue nozzle. Never spill a drop!

[@pauldjerassi620]

OMG Bart its a Duck pond all right, don't over heat the electric starter please give about 8 seconds pause between a long start period and the next start period ,may i point out something Bart your followers think the world of you Man cos your a really lovely bloke no bull shit and tell it like it is these companies don't have a expert on hand for final design the fuel tank filler could easily be at the side for easy access ,oil should always come with each new motor that's a must ,safe flying dear friend,PD PS. love all your videos.

[@BartBerry]

Thank you

[@can5projects563]

how do you like that machine?

[@BartBerry]

I do like the tornado

[@littlec916]

Hey man! For filling the tank I HIGHLY recommend a jiggler pump. You can get one at Harbor Freight for about $7. They are genius and so easy to use.

[@justbrentbenson5419]

Hey Bart Could you let me know where you found the run in procedures for the 280? That would help immensely. Thanks

[@justbrentbenson5419]

Found it!

[@577buttfan]

Hurricane Bob Hannas Tech always said break it in like your gonna run it,i did that with all my 2 strokes and never had a blown engine :)

[@BartBerry]

airconception.com/manual.pdf

[@Flathatter]

I’ve seen that tornado in a PAPS Tinox and it has A very convient placement of of fuel opening and the tank is bolted to the frame and that one looks like it’s Velcro on What frame and harnesses is it.

[@BartBerry]

Titanium v2 and large

[@RvPrepper]

Bart use 3ft of hose, put unit on floor pour gas into funnel and hose, no problem. If gas can is heavy transfer gas to smaller container pour smaller amounts.

[@Chris-Fennimore]

Yep, you need 2 or 3ft of 1 inch clear plastic hose from Lowes. Insert one end in tank, fill from your can on other end.

[@David65702]

My tank is mounted about like yours is I just use a long transmission funnel works perfect that red funnel is a lot shorter than mine (size does matter) so I'm sure you can find one longer, if not put a small length of hose on the funnel. Good luck.

[@sleepnsouth]

Did u sell the F. BREEZE

[@BartBerry]

No I still have it , still fly it from time to time :)

[@sleepnsouth]

@@BartBerry hey do u have a E.MAIL. I'd like to ask you some stuff if uv got the time.

[@BartBerry]

@@sleepnsouth sure thing send me a message through Facebook messager please

[@MarcReiter]

It's easy to fill the tank on my Nitro 200. Pull the harness forward and put the funnel in behind it, inside the swing arm. I use a gas can with a hard nozzle and it fills no problem. Has it been easier to start since that first start? My Nitro likes a lot of priming. It sounds like you didn't have enough prime.

[@BartBerry]

It has started very easily since the first start, I agree I don't think I primed it well enough the first time

[@terracewaggoner6412]

Same for me -Pull the harness forward and put the funnel in behind - excellent advice!

[@greghillerby460]

What wing do you plan to use for your foot launch with your new tornado?

[@BartBerry]

Originally I tried the power atlas but didn't have much luck...decided on the roadster 2

[@JonathonWheeler]

Go to your local hardware store, Lowe’s, Home Depot or somewhere and purchase large tubing and make yourself a pouring spout that is longer that you can attach to you gas can

[@rowdyrich69]

Dude, just take up Golf! lol lol.....cheaper and you don't smell like gas at the end!

[@PPGMurse]

You are gonna sooooooooo love foot launch.

[@ctchuteflyer]

Getting fuel in there is VERY easy with a shake siphon. Get them from Amazon or some parts stores. It's so much better than dumping cans. If you dont buy one, message me and I'll send you one just as a gesture to a fellow pilot.

[@65LB]

Fuel OUTSIDE!

[@louisramirez3128]

Hey Scary Berry - Where YaT ?

[@smkwhatsnext3411]

I would suggest adding some more tube on that long funnel so it reaches above the motor I can't wait to see how you feel it stacks up against the fresh breeze I personally want to look for a good 4 stroke since I'm going to trike don't like all that 2 stroke fiddling reminds me of my dirt bike days

[@GRACIEHIG]

THIS PUMP WORKS GREAT FOR FUELING, PURCHASED ON AMAZON: TeraPump TRHA01 Battery Operated Liquid Transfer Pump - 2AA Battery, 2.25 GPM.

[@MrCPPG]

Dude, you got a Tornado? I thought you were a Fresh Breeze guy. Excited to see your experience. I am looking into that myself. Are you going to foot launch?

[@BartBerry]

Yes I am hoping to foot launch...at least give it a try ;)

[@MrCPPG]

@@BartBerry That is awesome.

[@louisramirez3128]

Or U can use a little piece of 1/2 in. or 3/4 PVC Pipe - Twist it Good on2 the FUNnel & Shazzam.!.!.!

[@jimchatwin8339]

Uncle Kurt Fister just blew an O ring in his brain watching this Vid. Did you lose the memo? You're suppose to bleed Fresh Breeze Monster.

[@ppgprogression1247]

Hey Bart, what you need is a self starting shaker siphon hose. Just put one end in your tank and the other in the gas can. Give it a few shakes and the fuel will flow freely in. No fuss. No mess. You can find them on Amazon.

[@ppgprogression1247]

Wadoy Gas Siphon Hose Pump, Shaker Siphon for Gasoline/Fuel/Water Transfer, Safety Self Priming Hose 1/2" Valve www.amazon.com/dp/B072LN1T1W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_uF12Cb6PSQWKG

[@dr420nrg]

Northern tool Has a hand gas pump. I would use that. a negative for the tornado for sure.

[@gerrycollins9409]

I purchased an electric pump to fill my Parajet Maverick. Works really good, easy, quick and no mess. TERA PUMP TRFA01 4 AA Battery Powered Fuel Transfer Pump w/ Flexible Intake hose and No-spill Auto-Stop Nozzle attachable to gas cans and more www.amazon.com/dp/B01IWCP7XC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3S12CbH08H8DJ

[@brucesweatmaniii6030]

Ya, make a bracket damn are you a farm boy?? make it!

[@ctchuteflyer]

Also you cranked the heck out of that. Did you prime the fuel system at all? Also you were doing engine run ups with loose leg straps dangling. Man, you need a buddy with you to guide you through some of this stuff.

[@carlbamburg7439]

CTchuteflyer.. yeah, those loose leg strap ends (I assume it was excess) worried me a little too.. May wanna fold them away (or trim and seal) once you have them properly adjusted..

[@louisramirez3128]

So Your Ditching the Trike ? Don't need a runway with that BaD BoY - - - - Did you look in2 the harbor freight Predator 4 stroke Twin 4 U'r Ol' Trike ? They're like $600 buks… Thanx 4 getin bak… LJR-III

[@BartBerry]

lol no not ditchin the trike just yet lol just gonna give foot launch a try... see what i like better ?

[@robertmcgee141]

Sweet! What's your opinion on the FB vs. the new rig?

[@577buttfan]

He hasn't even had it past half throttle yet give him a minute.

[@BartBerry]

Still breaking it in I cant give you an honest opinion just yet

[@mussieTil]

Barry, there is a battery operated pump on Amazon like$12..I will get you description or picture..

[@JPTHEMAN1]

They probably recommend removing the cylinder head for fueling. LOL

[@joshhughes6316]

Thanks for the share buddy, I have enjoyed your videos and I just hope to see your new addition in the air here soon as I get alot of enjoyment watching your videos. Thanks for sharing I hope one day I'll be enjoying the wild blue yonder but due to my treatments I doubt I'll ever be able to afford it. I have been doing alot of research like you suggested the last we chatted but there is just no one in my area looking to get rid of their old gear for a decent amount they are all really proud of their equipment lol. Well I'm still looking I haven't given up yet.. Thanks again for the share Barry my friend. #CANCERSUCKS #ScaryBarryROCKS

[@zapster2412111]

Worst way to break in a two stroke ever.

[@TEABERRYEAGLE]

Just put the hose from your can directly into the tank...it looked long enough on your video...don't use the funnel at all....

[@JohnTosti]

AHHHH DUDE. YOURE GONNA BURN UP YOUR STARTER. give it 10 seconds between each time you push the starter button! Only hold the starter for 1 second at a time

[@jeffjolliff5864]

How long is your runway?

[@BartBerry]

I'm not sure, I never actually measured it ?

[@sandymacpherson9400]

Why not lengthen the hose on your fuel can? Pick up a longer bit when you're in at work today. You're right about the poor design though, a real lack of foresight by the manufacturer.

[@tonymarzano2220]

Could you turn the tank around? Looks pretty close to the harness, but ya that’s a minus for the 280 You think they would of thought of that as soon as someone tried adding fuel too it, just sayin