Toro 60 volt and Snow Joe 100 volt cordless snowblower in wet heavy snow!

[@PaulSikkema]

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[@PaulSikkema]

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[@Boyo1956]

I have the Sno Joe 2 stage. It was DOA. By the time the replacement arrived, the snow was gone. I have the EGO single stage. I have never used it. I plan on selling both to buy the Toro 60 Volt snowblower with dual batteries.

[@Boyo1956]

I would lean towards Toro as they have a 2 year battery warranty. Sno Joe is only 3 months. Also, I prefer the steel auger.

[@Boyo1956]

I just bought the Toro Personal Pace with 6 amp battery. Amazing! I had the EGO Select Cut double blade lawnmower. My first time owning an Ego lawnmower and an Ego. The Ego was terrible! The Toro is a dream with the 22" steel deck, Personal Pace, and superior cut. I can't say enough about the Toro!

[@Boyo1956]

I got criticized on the Ego channels for telling it like it is! I sold my Ego in one day. What a relief!

[@markg.2501]

Clear, concise, fair.... side by side comparison..... presented in a easy to understand way. Paul.....You nailed it Buddy!! Two thumbs up!

[@EddyB_]

PERFECT type of snow for a true test of electric snowblowers. This is the kind of snow that concerns people when considering electric. Thanks for the thorough and fair review!

[@michal.w.2159]

A perfect example of how to make a good review of a snow blower, well recorded, side by side from the same perspective video where you can clearly see how both perform, i've seen few of your videos and really enjoy the content you put out, keep up the good work

[@nancytanabe591]

I'm an elderly widow looking to get a snowblower that I can handle. Your video was most helpful. Thanks.

[@devo9495]

Of all the battery snowblower videos I’ve seen, you’ve done the best job putting the machines through identical tasks. Your camera angles are perfect… and the snowfall you cleaned up is the best possible test. Great job friend, an excellent addition to the best part of KZbin content. Thank you!

[@5MillCity]

This is super helpful. I’m sick of maintaining my gas two-stage and want a small battery single stage to open up space in my small shed. My fear has been heavy, wet snow and at the end of the driveway. I think you’ve proven to me that the Toro will be a solid selection. Thank you!

[@SuzukiKid400]

You can buy an electric 2 stage as well.

[@charles6952]

@@SuzukiKid400 Toro is introducing one this year that has speed control that works great.

[@PaulSikkema]

They are a little slow getting them out. It may be another month before they hit the dealers.

[@malangbaba9544]

Great review. Thanks. Today I got the Toro and used it after 6 inches of snow fall. It used 50 percent of the battery charge to clear a 6 car driveway. Very impressive. So glad I watched your review.

[@rjputt]

I was deciding between a medium duty two stage and the Toro single stage. I don't have a driveway but an approach to my garage from an alley which is about 8 feet long along with a sidewalk in front of my house and a small patio and sidewalk leading to my garage. After watching your video I decided to go to my outdoor power equipment dealer to have a look at the Toro. The employee was so knowledgeable and he demonstrated the Toro for me. My jaw dropped from amazement at how quiet it is. (My vacuum cleaner is louder). He even started the battery operated Toro two stage for me and that was unbelievably quiet as well. Thank you so much for your video! I bought the Toro 60 volt single stage right then and there!

[@Bababooski]

Best review on YT. All these other channels keep putting music over it and you cant hear the machine working. Nicely done.

[@dolph99]

Thank you sir. I bought a Toro 60V because of your review. It works wonderfully. Really appreciated!

[@cheshstyles]

This is exactly the type of stuff i like to see on youtube! Rock on my friend

[@shaggyda2758]

me too!, this guys runs no machine down at all & we don`t have to listen to crap,just a honest review. Thank-You sir.

[@bryanwilson8396]

Yesterday I bought the SnowJoe 24” 80 volt self-propelled cordless snowblower. I am so happy. Used it this afternoon and throws the snow about 40 feet. Push button director for snow chute. No more turning the rod by hand. What a relief. Have a gas powered sitting in the garage that needs new gas, spark plug, starter and on and on. Doesn’t want to turn over and start. No more gas anything for me. Next purchase is the same in a lawn mower.

[@joelshack85]

I have been in the south for 15 years now after moving here from New Hampshire. I know this is going to sound weird but I actually miss snowblowing.

[@rontimber8566]

Not weird at all. I end up doing my neighbour's driveway because it goes too fast just doing mine.

[@Theonenonlyavery]

I LOVE snowblowing! I usually do the whole neighborhood just because I enjoy it.

[@scottmorin3287]

Totally understand. Snow blowing can be therapeutic ❄

[@leodanryan966]

I don't know why I'm watching this video, but I really enjoyed watching it. I live in San Antonio, TX. We've had snow a couple of times in my lifetime. I'm 65 years old. Lol ☺️

[@tpiii33]

I was looking for reviews on the Toro. Your double-review was far better than any of the other KZbin guys, who were only showing the Toro. Thank you!

[@TALLNDIRTY]

Really good comparison....I was really surprised how well the Sno-Joe did up against the Toro. Also impressed with how well both did with that heavy wet snow. Perfect for 80% of suburbia with concrete or interlocking surfaces.

[@brandonbell6171]

Both did the same thing I'm ready to get rid of my toro CCR for ninety bucks and buy snow Joe

[@ohyeahthatsright3155]

Thank you for your service to our Country.

[@Carlos72797]

Planning to buy the Toro. Wet snow was my concern. I dislike overly long KZbin videos and almost passed over this. But most of the time is seeing the units run; essentially trying them out from the warmth and comfort of my family room. Cutting through the snow plow pile was a surprise. Thx.

[@PaulSikkema]

Toro just announced a single stage that ground engaging like the Snow Joe in this video. It has a LOT more power than this one: www.toro.com/en/product/39921

[@AKthehardway907]

Perfect review setup...love being able to watch them in action at a distance to see exactly how far they throw, really the main reason for watching these reviews...appreciate the effort you put in setting this up...thank you sir!

[@mikebuchanan3532]

I have a plug in electric Toro 18” Power Curve that I have had for more than 20 years. I have never had to do any kind of repair to it. I hang it up in the spring and take it down in the winter and it’s ready to go. It has a kind of rubber auger that grabs the pavement and I don’t have to push very hard. It has cleaned both powder and heavy snow without a problem. If it ever wears out I will replace it with another Toro!

[@Lorwildrose]

I used a few and the Toro is the only one that hasn’t died. Plus the same battery can be used in other equipment. Ever tried the snow Joe. So thanks for the vid.

[@50hellkat2]

The best part is that the auto snow shute button is very convenient by your hand on the snow joe. I like the rubber covered paddles do not gouge my deck when i use it because they are rubber covered.

[@piratemonk1jm]

I found it very interesting as I did not have much confidence in these but I think for a homeowner to own one of these might make sense you don't have to get gas you don't have to worry about the carburetor shellacking up every year and having to go through it

[@florintamas4439]

Paul - thank you for the videos. You are doing a great job in explaining the hands on experience with all the powered equipment you’ve tested. Keep up the good work!

[@DT-yt2zh]

Finally someone who tests with wet snow - the only kind of snow I ever get. Very, very interesting. Thank you for the honest testing!

[@kenlancto7582]

I'm writing this just as you made first pass with the snow Joe. You gave the snow Joe a break by throwing less snow the first pass due to toro making first pass.

[@82camino96]

Thanks for the video. I actually purchased the toro a few weeks ago as we had a pretty heavy snow in Michigan. Honestly, I did not enjoy using it. I’ve gone completely cordless electric with my lawn care equipment, including mower, and I absolutely love it. Would never go back to gas. That being said, the toro snow thrower didn’t seem to have the Performance I was expecting. It was actually more difficult to push it through the snow than my gas powered toro single stage. Also, I have a lot of cracks in my driveway which were like running into a brick wall over and over. My gas toro does not seem to have that problem, being that I can lift it and run the rubber paddles over the cracks and it actually pulls me through the snow. I was a bit disappointed and plan on returning it. I was worn out after forcing it through the snow for 25 min. From just one use, it severely damaged the plastic scraper bar, which is actually worn down and shredded on each end. The scraper bar was not straight right out of the box, each end was slightly curved down and conclaves in the middle so it was mostly only running on each edge and not so much the middle. I took note of that before I even used it, which lost points for quality control in my opinion. I’ve been wanting to order the snow joe but figured I’d wait until you were able to put out this video. I wonder if I should even bother with trying the snow joe at this point. I’m slightly convinced that my driveway is better suited for rubber paddles with all the cracks. I was hoping to get a machine that performs as well as my piece of junk gas powered toro, minus the fumes and noise, but that didn’t happen with the toro. I’m thinking I may just have to put the snow joe to the test to find out. Otherwise, if these are the two best lithium ion snow blowers out now, I guess they’ve not come far enough for me yet. But I HATE gas! It makes my shop smell like gas all winter and that’s what I loved so much about my lithium ion lawn care equipment this past summer. Thank you and we all appreciate the video and reviews.

[@PaulSikkema]

If you were keeping the snow blower you could exchange it or a Toro dealer would get it repaired for you. (My guess it would be under warranty) My plan is to use a cordless electric when I get 2-6 inches of normal snow. If it's wet snow like the stuff in the video or when I get more than 6 inches I'll get out a 2-stage and use it to throw the snow way off the drive. I can't have just a single stage because we get too much snow and I also need to clear some lawn for the dogs. I've always said, "If you live north of Interstate 70 your primary snow blower should be a 2-stage." Three things are holding back electric. 1. Price. Residential customers are not yet willing to pay double over the cost of a gas unit. 2. Battery tech. Lithium batteries don't like high charge and discharge rates. So, we are limited in the performance we can get with these small battery packs. Elon Musk has a work around for the Tesla but the same tech he's using would make the battery in one of these snow blower cost three times what it does now. 3. Price of gas. As long as gas is under $6 a gallon no one will get serious about electric.

[@82camino96]

Paul Sikkema right on man. Thanks for the reply. Technology will continue to get better and better as the years go by. I’m just happy I can take care of all my summer maintenance gas free. Happy Thanksgiving and have a great holiday season.

[@jamesnm21]

@@PaulSikkema Toyota and other companies are working on solid state batteries which are safer (no liquid to explode) and store 2 to 3 times more energy than lithium. Once those hit production electric will look even better.

[@Jeo-What]

This is the first time I hear someone dislike using the Toro E21 (i use an EGO snowblower); however, Both Snow Joe and EGO have 2-stage 24" electric snowblower now if you are interested.

[@mickn7386]

@@Jeo-What so does Toro.

[@petermentis5106]

Paul, thanks for the side by side comparison. It appears that the Snow Joe can move the snow easier, but the Toro gets a little closer to the pavement. I liked your end comments and battery check. Very helpful.

[@wkendfrmr]

I see about ten seconds difference in getting to the end of the lane. However, the SnowJoe had only about a 2/3 as wide of cut. A more controlled and accurate test would be a test where both units make a full cut, not cutting adjacent to a previous pass. Also noticed a strip of snow left down the middle of the SJ cutting path, and quite a bit more noisy than the Toro. It would be good to know how the SJ would have done with the same burden as was given the Toro. That said, I do appreciate the comparison and thank you for your service to our great country! Rock on!

[@PaulSikkema]

The Snow Joe is nosier because the front rubber auger touches the ground - just like a gas powered single-stage. The Toro uses a scraper bar to clean the snow so it quieter. The SJ's chute also rattles. Nothing wrong - just an annoyance..

[@mj1746]

Great video. I have a 23 year old Toro 2 stroke and it’s still running like new. That really means something. Plus it’s made in the USA, unlike the SnowJoe which is made in China. You can always get spare parts for the Toro, even 20 years later after you buy one, although personally I never had to buy any. Still starts after 2 pulls. For the battery models....keep in mind that every manufacturer changes their battery models after just a few years, and if your battery dies, your machine becomes worthless. Also, any battery can only be charged just so many times, they all have a limited lifespan. Toro, as opposed to SnowJoe, also make many gas powered snowblowers, all being 4 cycle now, so they are very easy to maintain. I use Aspen fuel in mine, never goes stale. So, before you buy anything, think about your long term needs.

[@Nyghtprowler]

I like how he actually showed the end of the driveway - Thats all we users need to see. My older Plug in Sno Joe was great for years and I want to switch to cordless. I do exactly what he does with my corded sno joe... I sit there and beat the thing to death on the snow plow berms. I wanted to make sure the Battery version of the snowblower wouldn't crap out on the mean / wet / icy / packed snow. It looks like it handled it pretty well. Great review :) I'm sold. It honestly handles it better than my corded version (which is the smaller blower than this one)

[@MowersNBlowers]

Nice job Paul, but. Honestly I thought the toro cleared the path better, I thought it threw the snow in s farther and better stream. The snow joe left a middle path with some snow, and was sloppy at throwing. I was surprised you said the snow joe threw better. Because it didnt look that way.

[@JaleelJohanson62]

The problem with the cordless blowers is the cost has to shoot way up in order to cover the far more expensive higher power batteries necessary to get gas-like performance. This was the issue I had with the EGO blower last year when I was in the market for an electric single stage snow blower. I looked at a lot of videos of cordless electric snow blowers last winter. The EGO was the king IMHO. The Snow Joe 40V cordless just didn't have enough power to get the job done under all the conditions I routinely encounter . I suspect this new 100V cordless single stage blower is Snow Joe's answer to the EGO. I finally decided on the Snow Joe SJ627E-BDL corded single stage unit last year and love it! I get performance roughly equal to the new Snow Joe 100V cordless at around 1/3rd of the cost. Managing the power cord is no issue for me. Nice review!

[@josephbennett3482]

That red one is so much better than the blue one but surprisingly although it was heavy snow they gobbled up that snow like no tomorrow without any issues.

[@tcrwild8422]

Nothing throws wet snow like a big ol 2 stage unit lol, my neighbor just got a new Ariens single stage I seen him out there last snow we got abt 5 wet inches and that ariens was impressive motored right through that slop at the driveways end, am not a big ariens fan myself but I must say it was impressive for a small gas single stage

[@ML-ei2ru]

I am so glad to find your videos! I am a nana of 4 who lives alone in a town house. The HOA only does the driveway apron and not the driveway, but you have to wait sometimes 2 days for them to get to it. I ordered this snow blower online from Home Depot and after watching your videos, boy am I glad I did! It came today, but the top deflector control is missing. I checked the box throughly and it's not there. Home Depot told me to call Toro about the missing part. We are getting a snow storm this week. I'm wondering if I can still use it until they send the part, without the top deflector control. Anyway, I spent the evening watching your videos on how to use this snow blower. Seems like it will do the trick for my driveway and apron. You're a blessing! Thanks so much!

[@PaulSikkema]

Yes, you can use it. It will make a mess but at least you'll be able to get you auto out. By thy way, If Home Depot has more in stock, just return it and get a new one. They have a 30 day return policy.

[@ML-ei2ru]

@@PaulSikkema Toro sent me the chute deflector, just received it today. Now if I can figure out how to get it on! Lol. Thank you so much!

[@deltaforce12]

I had this snow joe in my cart, almost bought it. Saw this video, and then a bunch more, and changed my mind and got the toro. Good review

[@krugerfreddy8148]

There is a turn screw on the Toro to adjust the direction that the snow will be thrown: very useful !

[@suzannebert3652]

I'm so glad I found your videos. I had a snow joe once. It did great until the plastic wheels froze and broke apart lol.

[@commoncents456]

Paul Thank you for the wonderful side by side video. Very impressive. I have a 40x 80 driveway. The toro electric works well if you use it around 4-6" My wife loves it. I bought a spare battery incase of a long duration storm. When I want to clear snow I don't want to wait for the charger. I have a ariens 28 that's heavy but will go through anything. Love them both.

[@mjolles1976]

All part of the great outdoors!! I just got the Snow Joe 15 amp 22" model. Did well through a mix of ice and snow.

[@WoodShane]

I'm about to buy the exact same one hope it gets me through these Detroit winters.❄️

[@GreatDrums.]

Hey Paul great video! I just tried mine today for the first time on about 4-5 inches of heavy packing snow on a steep 4 car driveway (35-40% grade) and sidewalk. I must say it was pleasantly surprised! The rear plastic wheels do tend to struggle for traction due to the incline of my driveway.. but given the size, weight and maneuverability it makes for a decent all-rounder. Also, the headlights are absolutely amazing!

[@blainemitchell]

Which one did you buy?

[@PaulSikkema]

I'll guess the Toro. The lights are awesome!

[@GreatDrums.]

Paul Sikkema yes it’s the Toro! Sorry I forgot to mention it 😅

[@gfbrnby]

Thanks for the excellent review, Paul, and for your comment, Great Drums. I have a steep driveway like you and have been debating whether one of these machines would be a wise purchase. It sounds like the Toro will do the job.

[@lewisblack3660]

How do the wheels struggle for traction? They aren't driven. Do you mean that they wander around?

[@lisahamilton1270]

Thank you so much Paul. I live in Philly and was just comparing both blowers. You did an amazing job on this video and really made it a lot easier for me to understand. Have a wonderful 2021 and thank you again

[@loritiegs1628]

Looking for a snowblower that isn't to big for me to use and was thinking of the Toro but seeing several videos on this Toro 90 has helped make a decision. Thank you.

[@georgeleong1572]

I did notice that you tend to favor the Snow Joe with "less" snow. What I mean is that, let's say each thrower's opening is 20 inches wide, with the Toro you used about the whole width - 19 to 20 inches. With the Snow Joe you used about 16 to 18 inches. Thank you for doing a comparison.

[@PaulSikkema]

When I clear snow I like to make only one pass. I don't like to come back a clean up "windrows" from trying to take a full width pass. So, the Toro would clear almost the full width of the intake without the snow falling down and leaving a strip. The Snow Joe was more sloppy and to get a clean pass I had to leave a 2-3 inch gap on that side. The rubber paddle doesn't spin as fast as the Toro so that may be why.

[@jimbom419]

Good old Nor'easter on its way.....bought the snowjoe a month ago and just made sure the batteries are charged and ready to go....cant wait to try it out for the first time over the next day or two....thanks for the videos....very big help before I get out there!

[@1999Valkyrie]

Neither machine is disappointing. I'm truly surprised they moved that heavy, deep snow as well as this.

[@mickmouse92]

Wow both did pretty well. Makes me say "hmm" to my Ariens 250cc blower purchase. Oh well lol. I do have 175ft of driveway.

[@garysmith8455]

Very nice! Snow Joe is getting near house voltages!! I have two Snow Joe plug ins. One for deck, the other for drive and walks, going on 4 years now.......Love them!

[@dmiller9786]

Volts don't matter. Watts and watt hours is what matter. Power and energy

[@danielmccormick8080]

I appreciate you taking the time to do this! Thank you.

[@peacesearcher4598]

I have a Toro 7 horsepower commercial power clear and it's a great detailer. still runs good after 7 years after one tune up. I also have a 928 oae Toro that's for larger jobs. I volley that job with the 7 horsepower to get it down to the asphalt.

[@dingmah]

Awesome review where you let the products do the talking by showing people exactly how it performs! Love your videos!

[@lonelyp1]

I have been thinking of getting an electric blower. I drive an electric car so why not. I saw a snow joe add last year and thought they look pretty good. I own a gas blower that ran well the last time I started it, but the self-propel is broken. I was pretty good at fixing such things when I was young, but it's been a while. Good review, they seem to clean the driveway well.

[@danswartwood4580]

Thank you for your APPRECIATION to your subscribers

[@georgefoster9629]

Very informative video. I would take either. All depends on the battery life. Think that Toro may have a leg up because they have been around longer. However I like the larger wheels on the Snow Joe. Plus in the Ontario we call the snow plow pile the "Windrow"

[@aujla7564]

Yeah these should be fine for southern ontario weather, if you live In st John's, a snow blower isnt the right thing to use

[@richardm.175]

I just want to make a small point about extra batteries. Please be aware that this snowblower will not run on the 100v-2.5 amp battery alone. I bought one of these batteries when I bought the snowblower with its standard 5.0 battery, thinking I could run it on the 2.5 battery, and when that ran out, let it recharge while I used the 5.0 battery. This, I thought, would save time and extend the working time. However, the Snow Joe manual says the machine won't run on a 2.5 battery alone but only as an adjunct to the main battery. So if you want an extra battery that can recharge while you're out working, you need to get the 5.0. (which costs a lot more). Snow Joe should make this clear in its advertising, but unfortunately it doesn't.

[@Rendus4]

This has a 2800 watt motor and uses 25 18650s in series. At the bottom of the voltage curve and at maximum power, this thing is using almost 40 Amps. No 2.5Ah cell can put out that many Amps, so that 5.0 minimum is for your own safety, not a marketing bait-and-switch.

[@PaulSikkema]

You bring up a good point. The Ryobi and EGO snowblowers need two batteries to run correctly. The two batteries are wired in parallel so there is enough current to run the motor at full power. One battery in them (or the 2.5 AH on the SnowJoe) is not enough. I'll bet the Snow Joe will run on two 2.5 AH batteries in the two slots...

[@Rendus4]

@@PaulSikkema Interesting! I didn't know the Ego and Ryobi needed 2 batteries to run. The SnowJoe 80V, yes because they are in series, but I don't know how Ego and Ryobi can parallel 2 batteries. Imagine putting a nearly empty battery in parallel with a fully charged battery. They must have some clever circuitry to prevent the batteries from charging each other (and blowing up!).

[@manlion1andrew]

Thanks for your presentation about the snow blowers. And about your dog situation, I had my dog wake me up to do his business one early morning and I tramped a path to his favorite tree. While I was there, I looked at my WEBER GRILL 26'' and thought what would happen if I lit it up full of KINGSFORD. So I did and it cleared a 20' circle around the yard, where I justed clear for my dog.

[@miako1978]

great review - i would suggest you start the initial pass with the snowjoe where there is snow on both sides, seemed like you had the most trouble with the toro when you did the initial pass. Just my 2 cents

[@stevehinchey9013]

Glad to see how well they both did, and also the much higher volt battery in the SJ. The Snow Joe was surprisingly louder. I have a Toro single-stage CCR2000 that is about 20 plus years old now. It needs nothing really, maybe a carb cleanup. But this seems about as good, quieter, and without that 2-cycle stink afterwards. Sold on the Toro, especially researching the reliability ratings.

[@danielmok8570]

Thank you for this demonstration. I would have bought a Ryobi if I hadn’t seen this video. Thanks!

[@stevekober1805]

That Toro snowblower was much quieter and when you were cutting full width with a already open side it through snow higher and just as far as that Snow Joe. You never started that Snow Joe unit with both sides of the machine surrounded by snow as opposed to the Toro when you first started. Good video demonstration under adverse snow conditions.

[@PaulSikkema]

Yes, the chute rattles on the Snow Joe. Mechanically there is nothing wrong - it just rattles.

[@rancosteel]

I have the Snow Joe with two batteries. Works great and is easier to service the rubber impeller when a replacement is required. Snow Joe has a better website for ordering parts to.

[@PaulSikkema]

Just to be fair to Toro - manuals and parts are also very easy to get through their website and your local Toro dealer. Here is an example of the parts/manual page: www.toro.com/en/parts/partdetails/?id=49962

[@johnbarone8948]

Just bought the Toro model at HD for $649.00+tax, with free shipping, can't wait to get and put to the test. I researched several single stage unit's and went with the Toro mainly because of the steel auger, rather than rubber augers that the other brand's offer.

[@fritz9880]

Thanks for making the videos - they were informative. You made two careless mistakes that you should have been conscious of. (1) On the return pass of the Toro, you threw snow on the part of the driveway that you knew the Sno Joe would be going over. (2) You should have started a completely new path for the Sno Joe instead of running the Sno Joe along the path that the Toro already made. Running along the edge of a cleared path made it easier for the blower. These two things may not have made a difference in your conclusions, but you could have avoided these biases. Otherwise, I appreciate the time you put into this video. Good job!

[@grand_vacation]

Heckin heck! I really been obsessed with these snow videos.. I had recently upgraded to a corded electric unit and it's amazing. These cordless ones look even better. This is truly amazing tech that's out right now.

[@GNX157]

The Toro seems nice and there is definitely a use case for it, but my original reason for getting my Ariens was because of getting constantly plowed in by the snow plows on my street, and the electrics will not handle that at all, but with the Ariens can fight back easily. So for me the electric could not be an all in one solution. Currently I use a Redmax 8000 series leaf blower for lighter snow and the car. Something people rarely think of using, but the Redmax is very powerful. Last storm I even had a guy yell out his car window "that's cheating!", but it works great and leaves the ground super clean.

[@orion8242]

I would like to say that. Thank you for serving our country. I saw the Marine flag on your garage. Plus I would like to say that both machines are great. But don't try to force it through that thick snow by the street. And also wet snow is a pain in the ass. I don't have a snow Joe but I am going to buy one next year. I saw it on TV and I was like. I need one. Other than that thank you for showing us your video. Great job. Keep up the great work bro

[@PaulSikkema]

Thank you for the comment but my step-son served in Iraq. Living with a Marine Mom means "once a Marine Mom - always a Marine Mom." I became eligible for the draft 2 months after we shut down Nam. I never had the opportunity to serve but I always go out of my way to thank anyone who has.

[@charles6952]

I ran snow blowers commercially from 1994 through 2013. The biggest a 420cc simplicity. The most reliable and cheapest. An MTD I bought in 1994. 11 HP. 3inches or less of wet snow crippled the big 2 stages. All wound up in the chute. All the suggestions to lube the chutes are fine for one homeowners driveway. Won't work after an hour much less an 18 hour day. The most effective lube is the teflon dry sprays. Used it on my grandson and his friends plastic toboggans, very bad idea unless the kids are future Evil Knievels. Got some high strung 2 stroke singles. They loved wet snow. This is a 2 year old demo. The new Ego and Toro electric 2 stage blowers have speed controls that increase auger and impeller speeds to make wet snow a pleasure to plow through. But for 6 inches of what he was blowing a 252 cc 2 stage would suffer to the point of uselessness. The 420cc launches this 40 feet only because it's deep enough to grab it and push it through. These electrics are getting pretty good.

[@PaulSikkema]

You are correct with the Simplicity Pro and MTD snowblowers. They are almost worthless with 2-4 inches of wet, slushy snow. BUT, the game changed dramatically around 2015. Both Toro and Ariens 2-stage snowblowers will handle that sloppy mess a LOT better than the machines you used. I have a Toro 1428 PowerTRX here that can throw 2 inches or more of slush 60 feet! Check out this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHzIlqOeq62Bick I will agree a Toro single stage will make quick work of a couple of inches of slush (They don't make 2-strokes anymore)

[@robertmcdonnold3038]

Good video, good demonstration. You presented the two machine equally. Thanks

[@judah2011]

I have the Toro it is very nice used it for two weeks before my brother tore it up.

[@DIYtryer]

Thanks!! Think ya sealed my decision on all the toro reviews, thanks for the comments on the Ego didn’t seem to mulch through the snow like a monster as these two did

[@ralphchristianson]

Perfect snow for the test, they both did very well.

[@saliston]

Good review. I just bought the Toro and i really like it. I especially like the metal auger no replacing the rubber augers which can be a pain.

[@kathleenbaden7686]

Very good video for 80 year old woman in Denver co

[@johngaspar4425]

Snow Joe because they always have specials

[@corystansbury]

I purchased the SnowJoe today for $540 including 5Ah charger/battery. To me, the auger assist is a big deal and the extra power is a bonus. I appreciate the video to compare them.

[@anthonyjust9688]

Cory Stansbury the best I have found was $590. Mind sharing the deal?

[@PaulSikkema]

Go to SnowJoe.com and use the spin-to-win. $599 and up to 20% off with coupon. You can also go to Home Depot homedepot.sjv.io/x3yBd. Veterans get a discount and you may also get a discount if you apply for the Home Depot card.

[@anthonyjust9688]

Paul Sikkema appreciate it. Thanks for the reviews.

[@KubotaBXathome]

I’m certainly impressed with electric from your great video, thanks for posting Paul!

[@user-wc3vl5un6n]

Great video, thank you for the comparison. I was looking for this exact video. Toro makes the best everything in Law care.

[@raymondpalermo4998]

The nice thing about the toro is you dont have to replace rubber paddles but you probably have to push it more to get it to move and replace scraper bars.

[@PaulSikkema]

The scraper bar is inexpensive and easily replaced.

[@raymondpalermo4998]

What do you think of the ariens line up

[@PaulSikkema]

Ariens 2-stage snowblowers are what everyone else is trying to match. NO ONE has anything like the special edition models they introduced this year. That said, your question is too general. What models are you looking at?

[@raymondpalermo4998]

@@PaulSikkema these electrics keep up very well with snow per minute too compared to gas models.

[@bobranger9382]

I have a Toro which I really like, but these two look pretty even to me. But I will stick with my Toro. Thank you.

[@paulwoodman5131]

I would choose the Toro as it left a cleaner path. They're both similar, but less snow left behind compared to the Snow Joe.

[@nancyrichard6461]

Thanks Paul. You just made me feel good about purchasing this model Toro yesterday. Very well done video.

[@HipHopClassicsDaily]

Any idea of how much actual run time you would get out of the Toro? I like it a lot, and don't have a huge space to clear, but just wanna verify it won't have any issues. Really appreciate the videos though, thanks!

[@PaulSikkema]

No, because actual run time varies with how deep the snow is, how heavy the snow is and if you are using the ECO mode. That said, Toro states it will easily clear 9 cars. I just went out and cleared 4 inches of light fluffy - My driveway is 16X70 and it still had three bars left when I'm done

[@HipHopClassicsDaily]

@@PaulSikkema i decided on buying one. Just ordered it. Thanks for responding, and also the great videos. Happy holidays

[@theorangeguyna6762]

Paul, very nice review of two mainstream snow blowers. Appreciate the back to back comparision. Please be careful at end of street, traffic looks close

[@Ke-qv3md]

I have a snow Joe electric with 100 ft cord I like it but with heavy wet snow it gets clogged a lot. Skeptical it would work as well as you are getting yours to go

[@loralee7544]

I'm hearing that the cordless equipment is made more durable

[@fernandosuarez5815]

Thank you for the review !! Great job !! I guess it’s Toro ! What do you think ?

[@AlainHubert]

It started well and I was impressed with the Toro handling this much wet snow relatively easily. But when it got to 2:40 in the video, that is exactly why electric snowblowers are usually poorly performing when it comes to removing dense, packed snow compared to good quality gasoline powered ones. Especially when models like these cost this much ($998 CAD for the Toro). Although it did managed to finally do the job, but not without a lot of efforts on the part of the operator. But thank you very much for this video, Paul ! At last a real test, in real snow to show how these machines actually perform. Most other videos on YT show them removing only about 2" of fresh powdered now, that even the wind could blow some away ! lol !

[@wildoneback]

That’s very true, the toro is not going down in price in Canada , also the scraper bar needs to be replaced every 20 hrs, here in Canada the spare parts for snowjoe are nonexistent, I have a snow joe ion 18 , 40 volt and can’t get the scraper bar unless you order directly from snowjoe in the US and pay exorbitant amounts of money for shipping , will be the same issue with toro as spare parts are not available at Home Depot

[@PaulSikkema]

You can order your parts for the Toro through your local dealer. I don't know - but I'd also check out toro.com and see if they ship out of Canadian warehouse.

[@vancemarin8022]

@@wildoneback my local toro dealer (not a big box store) carries parts for my 40 year old snow blower, my 20year old lawn mower and my leaf blower !!! My china crap generator takes 2 days to get parts for. T&C small engines Hampton Ont that's near Oshawa.

[@ppgedez]

Well i wasn’t expecting them to work that good.

[@gregoryburkhead7813]

Great video. If it's doing this in heavy snow. I know the lighter snow is no problem.. well that said . I'll go with the toro . Thanks 💪🏾 🎉

[@catstolethecrown]

Just bought the Snow Joe, came to your video hoping to be pleased with my purchase (haven't got to try it yet!) and I wasn't disappointed. Thanks for showing it off!

[@marymcneil7861]

Thanks for doing this video. I'm thinking of buying a battery operated, your video was extremely helpful.

[@Rekmeyata]

I'm glad I ran into this video, those two blowers were the two I was considering! I agree after watching this video that the Toro is plenty good enough which surprised me with only a 60-volt battery vs the 100-volt job. I also like the fact that I can later get a Toro 60 volt lawnmower and use the same batteries. My other concern, which you didn't address, is how easy is it to get spare parts for the Snow Joe since there are no dealers in my town? and where would I have to take it for repairs? I have a Toro dealer so spare parts and repairs should not be a problem. Thank you for the great review, this was one of the best reviews I've seen of any product on KZbin, thanks again!

[@PaulSikkema]

Snow Joe parts and repairs are all done through the snowjoe website. support.snowjoe.com/

[@Rekmeyata]

@@PaulSikkema Right, and that's why I would rather deal with a local dealer like the Toro dealer in town.

[@fixall4ever]

I owned one and they work good but the problem is you have no traction, and it's to light. If your laneway is just a bit sleight and sleepy all your effort will be on walking straight and holding your snowblower because you will slide with it. I switched to aeriens Soho because I needed something heavy with traction, not because I need power or throw snow far but to hold me when I walk

[@beezer5623]

Snow joe looking great! We ha e a lot of battery options. love to see against the old ego and the new steel auger single stage. Edit: you can’t go wrong with either really. I however would stay with the ego or a snowjoe based on the location of the chute turning handle. Another thing I would say is with Toro you have other tools you can use with the batteries. I’m not sure what other tools can use a snow joe battery

[@arthuroconnor4300]

Snow joe also have Sun joe (lawnmower).

[@xGR1MxREAPERx]

I really feel That all these electronic snowblowers are for areas that get 2-3” at a time or very very little. The battery life and battery price etc is terrible. Other then that, your video was amazing. Very clear and in great detail. Nice job

[@PaulSikkema]

It really depends on the brand and in general what you pay for it. Todays batteries are much better than the ones 5 years ago and the new ones coming out next year will be even better. Both of the machines in this video can easily clear 6 inches on that driveway and my deck out back on one charge.

[@vinceglauser4770]

Hey Paul, I really liked your presentation. But I thought you should talk about what each one costs.

[@PaulSikkema]

Thanks! I don't mention cost because it changes all the time. For example, snow-throwers cost 20 to 40% higher than when this video was made.

[@crimmy0204]

that snow joe was actually pretty impressive! still waiting on good batteries for my 2 stage.

[@PaulSikkema]

Hopefully the next 2-stage Snow Joe comes out with will use these 100 volt batteries.

[@crimmy0204]

@@PaulSikkema that would be very interesting, I've RMA'ed both my 40v snow joe batteries for proper new 41.7v capacity before I give it a fair review, in full fairness to snow joe I did pick it up as a clearance. hopefully their 100v batteries are a little bit better manufactured. I like the ego batteries and capacity but they are almost over engineered and It would be hard for me to fix them if one of the cells drop off. Where as these snow joe 40v's their not as durable but seem a lot easier to repair my self if one of the cells drops off over time.

[@nickbradey3973]

The toro sounds smooth as silk and seems to clean a nice path and the snow Joe sounds like a rattle trap.. it's pretty loud

[@PaulSikkema]

The Chute rattles on the Snow Joe. the chute is solid and works very well - it just rattles. Also the Snow Joe's paddle touches the ground like a gas powered single stage so you hear that noise. The Toro's paddle does not touch the ground.

[@RichieColemanSr]

😂😂😂 too funny 😂😂😂

[@steveanderson461]

excellent side by side review, well done, I think I like the Toro, thanks a million, cheers from Canada

[@vinyalonde]

I have the Toro and I find that it has enough power. In a snowfall that was wet slush and less than two inches, I found a few times that the discharge chute got clogged and I had to stop the machine and clear the chute. Overall, though, I think that this was an exception and I look forward, if that is the right way to think about it, to heavier snow falls. My guess is that any snow blower needs to have a fairly steady throughput of snow to work at peak efficiency.

[@PaulSikkema]

You are exactly right. Like I stated at the beginning of this video, these snow blowers won't do well with just a few inches of heavy/wet slush. Give them "normal" snow and they will be great!

[@crmmedicine9701]

Spray the chute with PAM and you'll be amazed at how effective it is.