Toro Timecutter SS 4225 No Start Service Call

[@РоманСтецюк-э5д]

I expect this mower will last several seasons with decent care. kzbin.infoUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend Also, I ran across the problem with it not starting the 2nd time I used it. There is a safety switch which is pushed in by the chute or mulching piece being attached to the deck. I took the cover off and it wouldn't start. Put it back on, no problem. It takes only a minute with 2 easily accessible wingnuts and no tools. This mower starts up first crank each time and it is a joy to use. It also mows in reverse by putting the key to the reverse area after starting and pushing in the triangular button. It will stay in reverse mode until you turn it off. All in all, for my homeowner needs, I really like this mower-and at 70 bucks a cut here in Miami, it's already more than 1/3 paid for itself in a month.

[@jamesw4445]

My 10 months old Toro Timecutter won’t start. Your video pointed me to the right direction. It was the battery. It only had 9v. After charged the battery for a couple of hours, I was happily mowing my lawns. Thank you!

[@cac5486]

Great explanation from the narrator of this video. It reminds me of when I used to have the same problems with my Kawasaki 550 motorcycle. It used to flood easily. It had a 4 cylinder carb, and one day my dad showed me a trick on what to do about a flooded carburetor. Anyhow, I'm having that same problem with my Toro TimeCutter 5000 zero turn. The earliest chance I get, I will use my dad's concept by unscrewing both spark plugs on the Toro, cleaning them, and cleaning the spark plug cylinder intake before reinstalling the plugs one by one, and trying to start the Toro once again. If this is anything like the problem I had with my motorcycle, this concept will work like a charm. If my dad's idea doesn't work because of a flooded carburetor, then it may be worthwhile thinking to get another carburetor or having a repair shop look at it. In a nutshell, after my dad showed me his concept and I basically mastered how to avoid the flooding or at least starting my motorcycle with a carburetor flooding problem, I was able to start my motorcycle with one spark plug out of four. This same concept should be applied to your zero turn as well if you have that kind of a problem. Crossing my fingers for when I get the chance to try it.

[@charlesbrewer6552]

I had this same sproblem yesterday. Mower not used for two years. I suspected the carburetta would be fouled with "gumed" fuel. It would not start. Air filter was heavily blocked. Plug was oily and wet from trying to start. Cleaned air filter with compressed air. Sand blasted plug to clean it and then thoughly cleaned with solvent and compressed air. It would not start. Sprayed aerostart while cranking, engine fired but cut out when aerostart spray stopped. (= Fuel problem). Tried again with sustained aerostart spray. Engine fired (spray stopped) and ran rough until the fresh fuel cleaned the "gumed" jets. Filled the tank with fresh fuel. Two days trouble free mowing. Success! Air (compression), fuel, spark.

[@johnnyfudpucker6187]

I have had a 4225 with a Kohler since like 2015 and it rides rough with no suspension but I mow about 3 acres every week with it and never had a problem with it. I change the oil and filter once per year

[@MunkyWrench]

Quick tip if u think your flooded.. pinch off or remove the fuel line give it 5 mins to dry out then spray carb spray should start right up easy oeasy

[@MLenninger]

I have a 4235 with a Kawasaki enfine. After 2 or 3 cranks and it doesn't start, I take off the choke. It has been slow to fire uo lately, so I gigure I need 2 new sparkplugs. A squirt of starter fluid starts it up right away. Also, Scotty says not to charge a battery with your car running... it can damage the car's sensitive electronics. I usually remive the battery for the winter months and store it inside, usually putting it on a trickle charger right before spring. I always use racing fuel with 100% gas, no ethanol.

[@leeclem6066]

I have this exact same mower. My mower would randomly not start with the relay clicking. Sometimes it would start rough and backfire a bit also. I've had the mower 2 years and this started about 6 months after getting it. Recharging the battery didn't solve the problem. And I was constantly recharging the battery as you were in the video. Had it to the dealer twice but it always started for them. After seeing this and checking everything I became suspect of the battery. Toro supplied a 195 cranking amp battery. Other blogs indicate this is way too low. I bought a 340 and the machine fires up immediately every time with no belching or running rough. Runs really smooth. Another blog told me they never use less than a 370! Easy fix after a lot of needless worry. Shame on Toro for supplying such a weak battery. Eliminator Performance

[@kevinb21]

I have the same mower... and the same issue. Can you give me the model number for the battery?

[@leeclem6066]

@@kevinb21 I got a Die Hard at Advance Auto parts. $50. 340 Cranking Amps compared to the 195 original equipment. I've used the mower about 10 times with the new battery and it's solid. The physical sizes are standard. They have left and right models to get the battery terminals on the correct side. Otherwise your cables won't reach. Carry your battery in. It's a trade-in discount.

[@kevinb21]

@@leeclem6066 Awesome! Thanks for the info!

[@timcole1]

Yep! After 12 minutes in, sent it to the pros to fix. What a timewaster. And then blame it on the alcohol.

[@leeclem6066]

I got a Die Hard at Advance Auto parts. $50. 340 Cranking Amps compared to the 195 original equipment. I've used the mower about 10 times with the new battery and it's solid. The physical sizes are standard. They have left and right models to get the battery terminals on the correct side. Otherwise your cables won't reach. Carry your battery in. It's a trade-in discount.

[@absolutedynamite4979]

Despite some dislikes and funky comments, this gave me a peek into troubleshooting what I need to look for in a Toro Timecutter 14-382 I'm about to get in a partial trade. Same situation, has run every year after storage except this one, owner has "no idea why". I will definitely run through the steps and post the fix since I didnt see an actual fix here. Hopefully it will help others looking for a definitive answer in this vid. Good job running through the steps and props for the ingenuity with the hair dryer..genius lol.

[@daviddavis5689]

Treat the gas with stabalizer ;put a fuel line cut-off and run carb dry if sitting for long period. Also use mid octane gas ;only 10% alcohol is my suggestion. New alcohol gases do not store well. I keep a battery maintainer on in storage. Have a can of starter handy anyway.

[@sptrader6316]

As a 50 year mower veteran, 2 things that I do might have prevented this problem. 1st I always have a Battery tender(Not a Charger) on the battery (all year long), so the battery is always fully charged (trickle charged), 2nd, I start my mower every month, for 5 min or so, that puts fresh gas in the carb. Vehicles of any kind don't like sitting for months at a time without being started. One other tip, try to get gas without ethanol in it, it's garbage for small carbureted engines.

[@knighthawk86855]

1st thing always check the oil, to make sure it isn't over full or under, if over most likely gas in the oil, smell the dipstick if you smell gas, the carb needle and seat is allowing fuel into the crank case.

[@eezyclsmooth9035]

I sure wanted to learn something but, All I learned was that a brand new Toro can break down. Oh well I guess i"ll just go back to "Taryl fixes All".

[@Methodical2]

And there's your supper.

[@crabtrap]

his horseshit about the "flooded plugs" is absurd. a flooded plug doesn't fire when you add starting fluid on top of it. 1 if it WAS a flooding issue, he should have clamped off the fuel supply and did the starting fluid to give a good clean start as 'proof of concept'. 2. floats usually gum-up in the up/off position from sitting meaning, he would not be getting fuel in the bowl. this looks more to me like a coil or safety switch issue causing poor spark. the fact that this is a twin cyl and neither cyl is firing well tells me to look to the nearest common component both cyl share....coil, CDI, safety cutoff etc ....remember that direct starting fluid in intake apply eliminates the carb completely from the equation.

[@bobholst874]

There is a telltale issue most guys don't cover up front. The fuel cuttoff solenoids rust inside especially from crappy cheap gas! Feel the solenoid to see if the solenoid clicks when you turn the key. No click=either bad solenoid or bad battery/connections.

[@markweisheit3864]

Can you put seafoam in your gas and run it through the motor will that help

[@Jfhelwig]

I had this problem. I took off the gas tank, had pine needles and dead insects in it. Washed it in tub, blew it dry with air compressor, rinsed it with gas and emptied. Blew air through all the fuel lines. Then added sea foam to fresh gas in can, and filled tank Made sure battery was fully charged. It started quickly. I think there was something in the fuel pump or carb which the fresh gas fixed.

[@ajbrown2013]

I blow air in my gas tank with gas in it seal it up with a rag instant carb cleaned

[@johns1577]

My Timecutter has had trouble starting ever since ive owned it. Im in Hawai'i and theres no repair shop nearby. I have to use starting fluid spray any time its sat for a few weeks. Yes, im from the south! My problem now is no crank. if I jumped 12V straight to the starter, I've not just bypassed the solenoid, I've bypassed ALL the safety switches? I've replaced my starter, but still, it moves 1/4" and stops. The flywheel turns by hand and spins freely with plugs out. What else could be keeping the flywheel from engaging with the starter? It had been working 2 days earlier

[@hotrodgavin6543]

If it was a Kohler all you would need is a 10mm wrench, I just installed one on my TimeCutter Z5000 (23HP Kohler Command)

[@RobertHuntleyHI]

What was the eventual issue that was fixed under warranty?

[@cbrowning9667]

That's one great video

[@andrecampbell691]

I have a toro 6050 with 1000hrs all with regular gas, no problems.

[@MDR-hn2yz]

I’m having this exact problem with my new Time Cutter. We had some real heavy rain and I got some water in my gas.

[@Texas_Made]

What did you do?

[@Gunshinzero]

I saw another video where the float bowl was full of fuel preventing it from floating.

[@obedb093]

I have a toro timecutter 4235 , it doesnt want to start. I changed the solenoid but no luck. I remember it made a mechanical whirling sound when I set it from parked to neutral while it was off, it doesnt make this sound anymore.

[@weeeves]

Sounds like your Brake Control Module went out. Pretty common issue with these mowers which creates a no start (no crank) condition. About a $100 part

[@absolutedynamite4979]

@@weeeves I will definitely keep this in mind for the 14-382 I am looking to get in a trade.

[@paulharper7808]

You need a post a follow-up to the dealer repair.

[@bkpickell]

I have the same mower and mine when you turn the key it makes a brief starter wing noise, turn the key off and a couple seconds later it will do it again? Any clue what would cause that? My first guess is a bad starter, but that second spin up has me second guessing that it's the ignition switch

[@SuperGuitarDude7]

So I have a zero turn Timecutter. It won't start; doesn't even make the noise like it's trying to start. Clicks though. I had the yearly service where they clean it, change oil/filter, spark plugs, etc. in the Fall and then used it a few more times. I keep it parked in the garage in the winter, however I forgot to start it every week or so like I did last year. Now it won't start. Is there a specific thing that could be causing this?

[@nicksimeone9874]

I have the same issue with mine. If you have a multi meter check the volts. My battery was dead.

[@baldeagle242]

Thanks for sharing. You have a new sub. 👍

[@edgarfloresserna8411]

Hi that’s good video I have a toro zero turn tha I just got it back on march and now it does not want to go back or forward do you have any advice for me on how to fixing it or what is causing it please let me know thanks so much in advance have good night

[@jasonfornari6032]

Drive belt

[@TryRickPayton]

I been trying to buy one of these online

[@AndrewSeymour78]

All you got to do is take care of your equipment and it will take care of you

[@yumpinyiminy963]

I have a new 2020 Time Cutter EZ Ride 54" with Toro 24.5 HP. Set up by local dealer as part of a Toro $300 discount with delivery. I know about engines. At 5 hours found my battery dead. Loose dirty connections. At 7 hours I now get back firing and the engine running (dieseling) when I turn it off with unburnt gas smell. Stuck float or bad idle speed fuel mixture? I can't afford for them to hold my machine for days. Such good reviews on the Toro engines.

[@ckuba100]

i have a toro 5k dollar 24.5 horse model 75202 and it does the same thing ---the dealer had it for a month and adjusted the valves ---- and to this day my zero with 64 hours run time is nothing but junk still doesnt start worth a hoot and i have a charger on the battery full time------chuck ---uniontown ohio

[@mhrobotguy1709]

All these little batteries are junk. Unfortunately, there's not really room to put a real battery on these mowers.

[@edwardtomlin8592]

Most would take the carb off and clean it!

[@allanreheuark3510]

Probably the anti backfire solonoid switch

[@bandolero330]

I have exact same mower spark plug is wet of gas, and it’s not staring. Any clues from someone? I have just cleaned carburetor, replaced gas filter, new gas, new spark plugs, and still not working ☹️☹️any help is good. Please please.

[@waltercastro2015]

I have the 50 inch. I sprayed lightly with carb cleaner in the intake, start and turns. Shuts off. I did it for two times. I checked the fuel pump, does spit. I check the fuel tank is clean. I let it run by spraying carb cleaner then dies. Any clue?

[@waltercastro2015]

update: I remove the carb and clean the jets. It turn on. If you have warranty go for it if expired like mine did in Feb 12. Get your hands dirty.

[@gjmob]

Run the engine on carb cleaner then.

[@dereklucas38]

Me too

[@bms2550]

Thank God my Toro 4235 has a Kawasaki engine...🙏

[@alexisrodriguez9354]

That's what I think, I have 1 Kawasaki engine on one, and 1 Kohler engine on another, for some reason the Kawasaki engine is always running much better,

[@jslawncare5627]

@@alexisrodriguez9354 Kawasaki makes damn good motors

[@jslawncare5627]

Sucks toro doesn't put Kawasaki's on there mowers anymore they use the motors that were made by BMW I have one and it runs damn good am pretty happy with it

[@Methodical2]

@@jslawncare5627 They must have seen your comment because my 2020 50" has the Kawasaki motor.

[@anchorin0]

OMG really

[@jamiefelton9889]

Skeek some stuff in there

[@jan_phd]

So someone must be sitting on the seat for the starting motor to turn?

[@cuskit]

That had me wondering also. The seat safety on mine just stops the power take off (blades spinning), not starting the engine.This guy needs to take a running jump and leave KZbin advice to the pro's......

[@jesusmeneses1217]

Como se cambian las poleas de ajuste de tranmision gracias

[@cradd00]

Not sure the southern way works too well

[@Sh4d0wX19]

mine made a weird vibration noise while trying to start my timecutter

[@brentjohnson6654]

Thanks for the video and explanation. New sub here

[@willb.9225]

God bless you for not cussing also what's that running in the background that's a bit distracting given you're trying to start the engine this video overall was horrible you never found the issue just a bunch of assumptions

[@terryhites1]

1 skeeetttt each.,... It's the southern way..... Should had got that on video.....

[@josephpuchel6497]

I would think it was water in fuel.

[@vgaman1]

The moral of the story is that Toro Timecutter SS4225 sucks. I have the same model and there is always some problem starting it.

[@dalelandry5747]

Quit making us Southerners look bad!

[@rret6885]

u need a fully charged battery

[@Makeitwithmanny]

My brothers won’t even crank

[@golffoxtrotyankeehooligan222]

Heck mine wont even make the noise

[@sew04ss]

did you ever find out the problem

[@gg32484]

Just I would a little seafoam in there and see if it starts to.

[@GwinnettLawns]

Yea I wish it would have fixed it.

[@S.Acosta-yg6od]

Mmm, it just seems to me like you just can't fix it, period.!!

[@andrecampbell691]

What a waste of time.

[@oldbab]

I've got an ss5000 - pain in the ass.

[@johnshorba]

By by starter

[@jackchen5754]

toro 4225

[@dagrind69]

A lot of noise. Can’t hear

[@GwinnettLawns]

Huh?

[@teammadcow]

Translation: we pawned it off on someone else to fix it ..

[@EluderRacing]

wow very disappointed on this video. as a master tech yes you want to check for spark and air and fuel which he did but one very important thing he missed and actually talked about was the mower sat since august. current fuel has a short life it looses 1 octane rating roughly every 30 days im sure it has 87 octane fuel its sat since august this video was in February that's 6 months which means at best that fuel is now rated at 81 octane. which is hard to burn or run the fuel was bad. bad fuel won't allow a motor to run or run very poorly no power backfire etc... drain tank put in some fresh fuel im sure it would fire up and run with out any issues. yes carb may be dirty but im more focusing my comment on the lack of basics that where left out of this video. always use fuel stabilizer if not used on a regular basis.

[@GwinnettLawns]

Nope the fuel was fine. Don’t know where you obtained the octane degradation info but it also had fuel stabilizer in it. Also your assumption of using 87 octane was also incorrect as they use 93.

[@bobholst874]

My bet the culprit after sitting that long with 87 in it is the cutoff solenoid is stuck in the shut off position. Black smoke signifies water in the fuel! Replace shitty gas, replace fuel cutoff solenoid and start that bugger up! That's all I did! The guy gave me his Troy Built 54" Mustang Zeroturn because he couldn't get it to start! The rest is history and my good fortune!

[@charleshull5055]

Won’t be buying a Toro.

[@davidphenix901]

Junk pure and simple if it's under warranty you shoulda let let the dealer handle it in the first place

[@scottkalinowski1326]

10 hours? POS.

[@scottdavenport3394]

Do the video AGAIN without that damn generator playing in the background....also...your video was totally useless...

[@howardmotal1575]

Dude, a hair dryer??? Really??? Wash it off with the ether. The ether will evaporate quickly. I won't critique the video. Too much lack of knowledge to address. Those backfires should have lead in a different direction.

[@kamikazekrunch8363]

I teally dont like toro. I have had nothing but problems with all their products. Snowblowers and lawnmowers. Horrible company

[@marekkrepa9982]

There is no warranty on carborato. Please stop making videos

[@GwinnettLawns]

Lol nope you just stop watching them. Hahahahaaj