Time for a New #1 Air hammer! Do You NEED $500 for Snap-On Anymore?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Not an often visited category, but hardware store air hammers next? It's worth keeping in mind that the creator of this channel is working in product development for Astro tools, and while the tools tend to make what they make when hooked up to dyno's here it's always a good idea to consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!

[@nickwhite6717]

We are ALL ready for some more DP action

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@nickwhite6717 DP just needs to bring out a long one!

[@nickwhite6717]

​@@TorqueTestChannel I might have to go and do some research on that one

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Someone check on this man, it's been too long@@nickwhite6717

[@sthawk01]

Hardware store air hammers would be interesting to see. I appreciate the honesty about your involvement with Astro tools. You are one of the best tool channels on YT, keep up the good work!

[@adaptedbythedans]

This kind of content is way better than consumer reports.

[@kevinjogoo8730]

To be fair content like this is the consumer reports of the 21st century

[@CamiloSantana]

from video description: "As always, the creator of this channel is working for Astro in product development who make the 401K featured in this very video! Always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!"

[@adaptedbythedans]

@@CamiloSantana no, this channel is the only truth.

[@semmble2k7]

​@adaptedbythedans those are literally TTCs words 😉 however you are correct and the numbers do speak for themselves

[@lbox88]

Sweet shout out to South Main auto, guy does some pretty ridiculously in depth diagnostic on weird issues. Seems like a genuinely nice dude, really like his channel.

[@darth342]

I came here to see if he had a channel

[@ronnytotten9292]

Best tech channel on KZbin by far. One of the few that are actually doing it. Basically closest to the real thing but he's really good

[@needleonthevinyl]

I'm a huge fan of the minimum power end, so I really appreciate y'all testing that. Hammering out axles and ball joints is important. But sometimes you need to do surgery with a chisel bit. That variable trigger is a must when you need to twist a rusted fuel pump lock ring, or loosen a rounded out Subaru CVT fill plug.

[@randysmith9636]

I bought a IR years ago and have worn out my share of chisels with it. It cannot compete in this arena but it has served me well over the years. Having said that, a Snap On has had to come to my rescue a couple times.

[@luism1089]

I am curious to know how does AirCat get such fine trigger control? Can you guys do a tear down and analysis of the parts in a future video? Lets go full nerd on this and get techy. BTW, I bought the IR119MaxK and the Astro 498k, after your previous tests. Love the channel!

[@snoopdogie187]

I have the 119MaxK and its been great. I might get the 498k in the future, but I'm on a smaller compressor and I'm worried I wouldn't get much benefit from it for now.

[@AgentWest]

While I do not know about Aircat specifically, i can say that these kind of tools do not use a "typical" shuttle valve like you'd see in a solenoid. Instead, they use a tilting valve: a nail-shaped piece sits in the air passage to block it; trigger pushes on the 'shank' of this 'nail' and tilts it, causing the 'head' to come off of the hole to allow air to pass. My guess is that it all depends on the shape of this 'nail', its seat, and how long it is (for leverage).

[@bobbybobman3073]

Must say, tools wearing in, is something that's so cool to hear of these days. When was the last thing you owned that wore in instead of only out.

[@1madmaxx80]

Anything with moving parts "wears" in. It's physics. Doesn't matter if they use it in the marketing.

[@chrisgarian]

It's amazing to me that noone talks about longevity long term. I bought my snap on air hammer 15 + years ago and under HEAVY almost daily use i haven't seen any loss in power. The only thing I've noticed is a little bit of loss of trigger control. So, what's good today may not be good in years of heavy use. Just my 2 cents.

[@nathankisner8332]

You need to get the trigger valve on standby. Mine ripped. Got it in 2003. It's about $15

[@dustingibson2407]

I still love my Matco. It hits like a freight train. I work on heavy equipment, so I haven't been too worried about using it at "idle" speed. If I ever need to, that's what air line regulators are for.

[@Angelo-fo8de]

Matco 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 who makes it ? Not Matco !

[@dustingibson2407]

@@Angelo-fo8de still hits harder than anything else.

[@jacobstrutner8232]

​@@dustingibson2407went through diesel tech school, lowest blow rate hits the hardest. Matco or Mac, rest was junk

[@waltersweet4595]

I used the Chief long barrel air hammer this weekend on a Subaru rear wheel bearing and it knocked it out in 10 minutes. Rust belt area. Other side the owner beat on it for 5 hours and ended up taking knuckle off and using a press. I installed a larger air fitting along with female connection on compressor hose. I used a V shaped chisel and rotated the bearing which got it started moving. Chief for the win

[@mondavou9408]

Not only do I really enjoy the information (because its more trustable) but also your delivery.

[@darkerbinding6933]

AP puts out some great stuff at pretty amazing prices. I own more than a few items from them and never have buyer's remorse. And... awesome pick putting Eric-O on... he's a champ and it always makes me smile when he talks about using "big nasty". Great video as always. Thanks!!

[@jordanpilati8562]

I’ve always used an SDS hammer drill for my hammer. I pressed a piece of aluminum round stock onto the SDS shank and it works wonders.

[@G5Hohn]

Super Impressive on the new Astro, but I'd be tempted to pony up for the Aircat just to get that trigger. The problem with the Aircat is that I'm not sure my compressor can supply the 11.7 amp current draw the Amazon listing indicates it needs. Drat.

[@RoastedHVAC]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@arcademania7544]

You mean 11.7 CFM? 😉

[@DaveBigDawg]

Anytime ya get to see Eric O, you know it's going to be good

[@daedalus_20v]

Chevy thunder!

[@DaveBigDawg]

@@daedalus_20v 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cian.horgan]

I really think the power range score would be better expressed as a ratio rather than a straight subtraction Subtraction means that there are basically no points awarded for doubling your range at the low end. A tool with a 500-4000lb range scores almost exactly the same as one with a 125-4000 range, even though the former's minimum force is 400% worse. And a comparably small improvement in max power of 500lb (12.5% increase in power vs 400% increase in dynamic range) would actually yield more points in the current version of this field. If you want to be really nerdy about it then a log of the ratio would be best, but a straight ratio is still a big improvement in reflecting the control and range you get from a tool

[@JCWren]

Be interesting to replace the slug in the Astro with a tungsten slug to see how it would do. And for fun, maybe an aluminum slug, just to show how much the slug weight influences how hard it hits.

[@volvo09]

An aluminum slug would probably crush and get stuck.

[@sage5296]

@@volvo09 maybe a hollow slug or aluminum core with steel or other metal on the outside?

[@kylelaw7210]

Titanium would probably be better than aluminum if you wanted to test a light weight slug.

[@JCWren]

Aluminum, titanium, vibranium, unobtainium, whatever. The real point was a lightweight slug.

[@SnappyWasHere]

As an aircat dealer the only problem I have with them is service. Takes months to get anything back and they only fix the bare minimum. Plus they have outside shops do all their repairs. It’s so bad I quit stocking their tools and just order them if someone wants one.

[@Coyotes_Nightmare]

I purchased a chief the day after you tested it and have loved it Working on heavy equipment it’s been amazing for driving out rusty pins

[@JakeNaughtFromStateFarm]

I’ve got the SnapOn and love it. Bought it used for $200. Hits hard and has the best trigger control I’ve ever used. Looks like that Astro is pretty close, so it would be worth checking out if I wanted to replace it. The Aircat looked good and would probably work, but it loses too much power when you hold it the “proper” way. Not an every day issue, but there’s been times I need all the power I can get.

[@jimhaines8370]

I have Astro hammers the new one 401k and CP 714 for light duty and really like them both the Astro 498K comes out for serious work

[@purplegreendave]

Did the 401k come with any bits? A lot (but not all) of the promo images show it with that hammer bit

[@jimhaines8370]

@@purplegreendave when I bought mine just the hammer and a quick change chuck but I already have many many bits so not a problem for me plus 401 shank bits are very inexpensive

[@Roaggie]

I have a long barrel Napa air hammer. Its been the same design for at least 20 years for currently $130 and i would swear it'd keep up with all the big names.

[@_AndromedaGalaxy_]

pretty sure youll never see it tested here if he already has his own unproven opinion on it.

[@djsi38t]

Thing is it is a rebranded air hammer that is probably the same as one already tested.You just need to find the manufacturer..

[@redmesa2975]

If I remember correctly, Florida Pneumatic made Napa air tools

[@timbutler6447]

I bought my Vaper Air Hammer at Auto Zone for ~$25 a year ago and it came with 4 attachments. I love it.

[@bryanknitter8858]

You guys should test wood routers. They have ridiculous HP ratings that everyone seems to believe, but is the 115v "3.25 HP" model really more powerful than others?

[@RyTrapp0]

That is an interesting one

[@reaperreaper5098]

Same thing with shopvacs. They're advertised by peak HP, which only occurs for a fraction of a second at startup. Be interesting to see those on a dyno. Maybe even a collab with Project Farm.

[@AceP40]

I'd like to see the HF Chief medium barrel tested

[@stuieb25]

I picked up the newest Mac air hammer from my local dealer for $299 and got a free Mac compression gauge set with it. It was a deal in a flyer from I think July 2023. It was backordered until October!

[@tankmlee]

I love that the reference to 700 nitro is pretty much a direct shout out to Kentucky Ballistics

[@ftlbs11]

Love my original Snappy 3050. Nothing it won't move or blow apart.

[@G5Hohn]

Update: I bought that Aircat. The trigger is, in fact, exceptional. This is like getting the best of a big hammer and a rivet gun in one tool. It won't replace your small 2x riveter on your Vans build, but I can see how this thing would absolutely work as a rivet gun in thicker materials with larger rivets.

[@toroloko7257]

I got the chief long barrel and I'm very happy how it works.

[@packerman1203]

Would love to see what electric tool makers could do with an autohammer, theres that one skil tool out there but a bigger name attached to one might be able to show it off better

[@JackTorrance333]

I just purchased the snap on in Kawasaki green yesterday. I like it.

[@yt650]

It’s a good thing to remember that all of these companies are in business to make money. Snapon particularly because they have truck salesman. I can’t be sure about now but in years past they also had industrial sales people. The difference between the two was of course the truck versus a salesman with the catalog. if you were an industrial salesman you offered a 25% discount. If you were a truck salesman your profit was 40% the last time that I checked and that was quite a while ago. You have to remember that snap on is in the banking business, they charge interest for the money that you borrow to pay the truck salesman and that’s what it is a financial agreement. It’s nearly impossible to get through peoples head that’s something for example it cost $500 and you can buy another tool that is comparable to that for $150, but you have to lay out the 150 bucks all at one time versus the $500 over a period of time. There’s lots of ways of overcoming that but if you want a prestige look then that’s what you buy. It’s your money you spend it the way you want.

[@baja-automotive]

The MATCO air hammer has exhaust ports just like the AirCat. Do you suspect shared designs?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Definitely not, most have exhaust ports like that. But many also have a way for you hand to hold without covering them

[@deceptionxbl]

I own the snapon air hammer and I do have to say it’s the best one, it’s one of those quality tools that’s really nice to have

[@spiritualhouse2]

Still would like to see the taylor pneumatic .498 7x with the 5.75" stroke does as opposed to big nasty and the other big ones

[@kenabi]

sold. the astro is on the 'to get' list (unless something manages to beat the price/perf ratio before then).

[@JonDingle]

I bought the Snap On recently and haven't had a job to really test it on yet. Just blasting concrete out of a digger bucket I had on a repair. No doubt a pin or something needing a helping hand will test it.

[@Comm0ut]

It would be interesting to insert a tungsten slug into one or various air hammer pistons to see if the extra weight makes much difference. I have no suitable material but perhaps a viewer does.

[@cian.horgan]

That's a fun idea! I reckon it'd be disappointing though because the rest of the design is tuned around the existing weight and size, so the airflow would likely not be able to accelerate the tungsten anywhere near as fast. What could be cool is using a tungsten slug to make a much shorter piston with around the same weight as the original. That makes it much more likely that the air can accelerate it, and you effectively get a much longer stroke for free

[@Mittencarpentry]

Thought about the same thing. Then drill the air passages out larger and let it eat!

[@mjpermin]

I know its a little out there, but i would LOVE to see a comparison of cordless rotary tools, specifically milwaukee's new 2525-20 brushless vs their old 2460-20 brushed as well as dremels offering 8220. Obviously they're no foredom, but Id really enjoy seeing the different offerings compared.

[@Archnemesis92]

Yes, the .401 Thor finally reviewed! I was waiting on buying my next air hammer until this one gets reviewed

[@twostroke12v71]

Ultimate air hammer is a demolition air hammer chisel from ingersol rand. Its about 4500 from online vendors. Its the only thing i have found that will give the business yo rusty crusty damaged king pins on Kenworth semi trucks and dump trucks.

[@ls2005019227]

This is an awesome playlist! I don't even have an air hammer (although I'm interested).....but use an SDS MAX Hercules to set a lot of iron pins (surveying). Especially in solid rock, drilling makes all the difference. Thanks for this content!

[@mike4food]

I have the Astro 401 for a few months now. ITS A BEAST.

[@andrewesquivel]

I've been waiting for this episode ever since I saw the 401 Thor on the market

[@dave0z96]

I like the my snap on not just for the power but for the trigger control since I work around a lot of rusty pipe that I have to chip slag off from haul trucks that run in steel mills .

[@johnd3557]

I would love to see you guys start testing wood working power tools like routers especially both plunge style, fixed base styles for tables and compact palm routers. Corded and cordless!

[@andyanaoutdoors2487]

I bought the Aircat to save a few bucks. It's a vibrator and won't break anything loose. Hit a local pawn shop and found a new Snappy for cheap. It's exactly what the doctor needs. Buy nice or buy twice.

[@StickFigure9642]

subtle red white and blue graph color scheme, hell yeah brother

[@mustangecoboosthpp3869]

Yet I own a Snap On Air Hammer that is now 43 years old, older than most of the kids commenting in this comment section. I purchased it new off the Snap On truck in 1980.

[@bohaggin5913]

Still paying it off too I bet

[@brookejefferson9676]

So glad to see the Aircat tested! I bought one about 8 months ago and i love it.

[@EdwardJordan-c5n]

I was just thinking the other day it might be cool if you could test some sds tools using this same rig. It could be really nice to know how effectively they can be used for demoing or chiseling projects. If they are effective enough there might even be some automotive applications for those of us without a large enough compressor to run quality pneumatic tools.

[@evannewman3997]

Actually, they have done that. Then again, it was one video with only 3 models tested, so I totally agree that more comparisons would be great.

[@Dcalvert92]

CAT mechanic here. I have snap on, most of the 30 year master mechanics have their original snap ons and they still hit great. Snap on makes great air tools but shit electric tools

[@Wrencher_86]

That guy doing the Jeep axle did it the hard way. A) The blocking ring snaps as soon as you grind 80% of the way through it, no need to worry about hitting the axle with a cut-off wheel. B) Once you cut the cage off, you can get the inner race off by standing the axle vertically and then gently heating it with the torch. It'll fall right off. Might even be able to do it with propane/MAP. No need to possibly melt a spot on your axle for that.

[@keepingdistance4404]

Eric O @ SouthMainAuto. Top notch mechanic.

[@Wrencher_86]

@@keepingdistance4404 Not arguing otherwise. But with 13 years of experience in a Jeep dealership, I've seen a few ways to do this. Personally, I like the method I described. But whatever works for whoever's doing the job.

[@davidvance126]

Cp 714 zip gun. Not the heavy hitter but the trigger is the best out there. Used to drive rivets on body work everywhere

[@redcatxb125]

My snap on 3050 has been going strong for 3 years now, it hits harder than any other that we have at my shop. Plus if it ever fails i can warranty it same week

[@nils1953]

I know this isn't easiest to test on a Dyno, but since I am in the market for a new hammer drill (SDS+) I thought I would mention it. They all claim various levels of kinetic energy and I don't really know what to trust in their concrete drilling capacity.

[@colinstu]

Will there ever be an electric version of an air hammer? (and no… hammer drills / rotary hammers isn't what I'm talking about). I mean this sorta form factor, take those sort of attachments/tips. A motor could still translate motion into that piston?

[@volvo09]

Interesting thought. There are electric jack hammers, so it's doable, but I wonder if the tool would be too heavy to be practical? Air is great and slapping a piston back and forth in a small area.

[@Kavurcen]

There is a video on the channel testing SDS rotary hammers, if memory serves.

[@BimmerMatt]

Milwaukee Tool has a patent for one, only a matter of time

[@DownloaderVideo]

@@BimmerMattThe waiting is killing me 😂

[@jnmc-vx4fw]

Pure numbers don’t tell the whole story. Trust and reliability in a brand is important. Where they are made matters also. Who cares if a tool hits harder but dies prematurely or when you need it , pay the price and buy the best tools , from American companies

[@-tr0n]

Not for 3 days wages, thanks.

[@jameslarson7006]

Do more Chicago pneumatic stuff plz!

[@Krankie_V]

I've been using the snap-on one for something like 7 to 8 years and it still works as good as new as I can tell. I feel it was worth buying considering the performance and longevity.

[@georgerenolds859]

got a snappy for $50 used with a snap on chuck and bit best 50 i have ever spent

[@sc5015]

Can you guys run some tests of cordless SDS+ drills next? I am actually considering one for automotive work as hopefully a decent air hammer replacement, not wanting a compressor.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We have!

[@willboyd7794]

Hey there I enjoy your channel Have thought about testing Butterfly air impact wrench Like the Ingersall Rand 2168 vs Astro #136E? Thanks

[@Mr.TBirdy]

I’d love to see how the CP7165/60 from Chicago Pneumatic goes on the dyno. Most of my air tools are from CP and would love to keep the CP family going true.

[@Minglator]

You should dino gas powered post pounders for fence driven posts. They work with a pneumatic piston. Rhino, Redi Driver, Titan, US Hammer (spring powered not pneumatic but new to the scene).

[@akassasin5768]

Wouldn't dropping line pressure be the same as throttling the trigger. Both would supply less air to the same volume air chamber probably bringing very similar results. Maybe running a regulator straight off the gun would give as much control as one could really need.

[@jojo1isawesome]

You should test cordless work lights. Been looking to buy one but I don't believe the lumen claims

[@DJDiarrhea]

Pretty sure they did that already

[@jojo1isawesome]

​@@DJDiarrheathey've only done handheld. I'm looking for tripod lights and flood light tests. Like Milwaukee rover or tower light

[@chewbaccasaurusrex692]

Any idea why the Astro isn’t available?

[@Wolfman_3344]

The Thor was $114 this morning. It’s now $144. Didn’t even have time to ponder on ordering it. So much for that

[@TorqueTestChannel]

It changes a lot as different outfits go in and out of stock on the page, $122 now.

[@Wolfman_3344]

@@TorqueTestChannel I guess just keep checking up on it throughout the day till it’s at a good price lol. Love the content btw. I’m genuinely happy that y’all do what you do. It’s extremely useful information. So thank you

[@James-h8c3y]

My cp 7x 20yrs still hits hard

[@stever7638]

Awesome vid as always, thanks! Sidenote....are you planning on a test of the battery powered blowers? The Dewalt 60V circular saw combo price is intriguing, which makes me ponder the 60V handled blower over the 20V. Mainly for small cleanups but runtime is a factor...wonder how the 60V stacks up to the 20V tool and maybe just get the 60V saw combo and the 20V blower using that same 60V pack for runtime...not sure as I already have a good supply of 20V tools/batts.

[@charlesdickerson8260]

I bought the .401 astro air hammer. It was Good for 3 months. Then the trigger got stuck full blast. Astro wants me to ship pay fkr the shipping myself. I just called the snap in guy. My snap on one is very nice. I don't now how long it will last. Hopefully a lot longer!

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Trigger just needs the new spring type, they'll send it to you

[@DDB168]

In Australia that Aircat retails for $679 AUD (about 443 USD).

[@alinlove8026]

Hi, first of all i love the precision that you do your videos, and second, i got my hands on sykes-pickavant vibro hammer, is massive, they have it also under MÜLLER-WERKZEUG VIBRO IMPACT SYSTEM AIR HAMMER KIT - 290 206, i am so curious to see where it stands on your graphic list, once again i love your content!

[@ablindman0]

You prolly won't see this, but getting back to the air flow question, while I know hi-flow fittings are minimal restriction, do straight thru fittings like Chicago claw fittings provide a notable benefit on big air hog tools (I'm curious because I ended up going with 3/4 hose and those to feed a 1" impact to really get those precious beans)

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Yes. It makes a difference

[@ablindman0]

Thanks!

[@michaelmcdaniel8738]

I have the Snap On and love the trigger. I have a medium chief and it is a good hammer, just no control on the trigger. I love seeing the control on both the new hammers tested. Have you ever tested the low tigger with max air pressure? My shop has 120 all the time and no 90.

[@PyroPotPie]

Geat video as always! Just wanted to know if you guys ever planed on testing the Mueller Kueps HD Vibro air hammer, aka "BIG CHOOCH"? Would love to see what kind of score that monster would get.

[@brandoncrimmins6296]

I’m sorry but as a 20 year diesel mechanic… I just don’t understand why you would ever need less than full power for an air hammer… if I’m getting out an air hammer it’s because I’m pissed off and I’ve had enough!

[@yyello6072]

shunt truck mechanic here. there is a lot of annoying pivot pins that require only a bit of power but are just too much to do with a ball peen

[@brandoncrimmins6296]

@@yyello6072 I’m still givin ‘er the business if I got the air hammer out. Especially these days when tires and the air hammer are literally the only thing shop air is ever used for anymore.

[@lepore5326]

The firearm reference was awesome!!!

[@Romuls753]

Another way I could see air hammer OEs making more power is a more dense piston, however I doubt anyone would be willing to pay what would be required for an air hammer with, for example, a tungsten hammer

[@james.elmore]

Thor impact is amazing. Strongest around and cheapest too. I value power over price however and my Matco air hammer is an absolute BEAST and I would rather buy another one of that for these rust belt cars, than buy the Thor hammer. Great looking tool though.

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

I will be looking at the aircat

[@JonySe-w5n]

Hey, love your channel. I was thinking if By any chance is there a cordless option?

[@DownloaderVideo]

I wish, heard Milwaukee has a patent for one but only God knows when it will be out….unless we get lucky and receive some inside intel.

[@G5Hohn]

With the exhaust covered, the Aircat is merely about the same as the Souix, which is fantastic company to be among. For my money, the Aircat wins this as I really feel like that trigger is worth the premium. (*cries in HF Chief*)

[@rubenvor]

When are they coming with a cordless power hammer? Big Nasty with a battery. 🔨

[@sixtyfiveford]

Awesome demo

[@eduardomendez6894]

Have you guys heard of honsa air hammers. They are more of an industrial grade air hammer . Curious how it’ll compare to a snap on.

[@nickwhite6717]

If one comes across your path, id be keen to see a comparo of a CP7165k and the cream of .401s. Based off of the numbers, it seems like it will party.

[@TheCntryson47]

My air tools are about do for upgrading, looking like Thor is gonna be doing it. One thing i find odd is my IR long barrel has a super smooth and easily variable trigger, i wonder if its just well wore in

[@_P0tat07_]

Can you test out Cornwell, bluepoint and the new snap on “short” barrel air hammer?

[@luisprieto4589]

Aircat trigger is the Makita trigger of air hammers.

[@volvo09]

That air cat looks great, that trigger has my attention.

[@Millwrightmike]

Air cat everything g is amazing for the price also Chicago pneumatic

[@I.no.ah.guy57]

Nice testing. Its nice to see the Snap On wasnt embarrassed too badly considering I have their big boy air hammer lmaoo but it is really strong, so i dont have much regret.....besides the price 😅😭

[@LethalDentCompany]

You mention the air cat having a funky air pressure regulator. The snapon has the same one and I say that because a lot of people I’ve personally came across doesn’t know it’s there 😂

[@TorqueTestChannel]

I think we point that out as well, but i'll be honest we didn't even notice it while it was here.

[@marconiandcheese7258]

Could you test the battery adapters on the Makita 36v microwave and determine the difference in how many meals you can microwave?

[@samuelw.3992]

Trust me, I love my Snap On 3050 but damn it hurt to pay that price.

[@pgm5088]

@torquetestchannel Hi, I just bought a mint 8 year old Craftsman 30Gal 6HP-2HP 150 PSI compressor. I’m a diy mechanic. I had a brand new but older short barrel Craftsman air gun but it has no power. What short barrel gun do you suggest for automotive? I need to knock out some lower ball joints this week and I want to be future proof for rusted suspensions. Is the Thor .401 too big to maneuver in tight spaces around a vehicle? Also how about the IR 119Max or the shorter 123Max? Hopefully you see this message, I’m hoping to grab one tomorrow, thanks 🙏

[@ACoustaDC]

Second only to project farm in delivery and info. Love it!

[@djsi38t]

Nope...way better than Amazon Farm..