Tory Lanez is GUILTY..

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Shawn Cee

Shawn Cee

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@mackstacks8913
@mackstacks8913 Жыл бұрын
Very astute observations and points made here. This really became a manifestation of all the bullshit black men vs black women narrative that only really exist online. This is what happens when the fresh and fits,the Derrick Jxsons, these other shameless podcast and personalities create these dumb unrealistic dramatic expectations of what a black man or woman should be. Smh niggas completely forgot a woman was actually harmed here and could of died. They picked a side and started rooting for it like a sports team
@itsreallyS
@itsreallyS Жыл бұрын
on point
@sknatheartist
@sknatheartist Жыл бұрын
perfect breakdown, it became disgusting.
@ViolentMLG
@ViolentMLG Жыл бұрын
I think there were some other motivations behind it though. Such as the way Megan handled it, her character, her rapping, etc. I don't exactly think everyone rooting for Tory was a manosphere dude who hates women or whatever, I just think people wanted to see meg take an L. Tory was shouting from the rooftops about his innocent, made an album about it, and took it to trial instead of pleading out, giving off a pretty big impression of his innocence. You can't blame an average viewer for assuming he was innocent too. Either Tory really is innocent, or he's a MASSIVE clown after going so far to lie to everyone and hold a larger prison sentence when he lost. Given the verdict, it seems that option #2 is reality here.
@olearyeugene
@olearyeugene Жыл бұрын
I think people was rooting dor the truth. Just bc she was harmed don't mean he did it
@mackstacks8913
@mackstacks8913 Жыл бұрын
@@ViolentMLG why would people have “wanted to see Meg take an L” when she was clearly the victim? From Jump, at the very least Tory looked like a person who had piss poor judgment cuz even if he aint do it, why was his gun even drawn? Why was it in the position to even be reached when it was two other women in the car? Why would this man also sleep with two friends then try to sleep with another girl in the presence of those two friends? Thats piss poor judgment and clownish behavior and no one wanted to acknowledge that cuz “they wanted to see Meg take an L”. A bunch of niggas spent time questioning her judgement cuz who she slept with and not his at any point.
@HonkeyKongLive
@HonkeyKongLive Жыл бұрын
Man speaking a lot of wisdom here in the beginning. People who have their minds made up can never be swayed by facts.
@marcelcjr9313
@marcelcjr9313 Жыл бұрын
On god
@kyreekobain
@kyreekobain Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3zUoGWFhrZ2gZY
@dragastarr2926
@dragastarr2926 Жыл бұрын
💯
@marcrobinson010
@marcrobinson010 Жыл бұрын
Yep. It was super clear from the jump that he was guilty! Lol
@vishwathayumanavan8777
@vishwathayumanavan8777 Жыл бұрын
humans suck
@TheLuiscelaya
@TheLuiscelaya Жыл бұрын
So weird seeing how many people particularly men who really want to defend Tory Lanez. Of all people in the world, Tory Lanez is not the hill you want to die on in this society
@rockboyblue
@rockboyblue Жыл бұрын
not many people defended tory until there became reasonable doubt. when everyone starts telling completely different versions of the story and megan and kelce both flat out lie to different degrees in regards to things that happened surrounding that night, during, and after, it’s hard not to question whether or not he’s guilty.
@othelliusmaximus
@othelliusmaximus Жыл бұрын
It isn't though. Niggas defended worse people before unfortunately.
@ewan7283
@ewan7283 Жыл бұрын
@@rockboyblue all you sexist tory fans were ready for the court to do its job until it went against your boy
@perplexed1783
@perplexed1783 Жыл бұрын
@rockboyblue yea but there is nothin to defend him now
@cranberrychili2260
@cranberrychili2260 Жыл бұрын
I mean damn his music just Ight. I mean if you Finna dick ride for an artist might aswell make it one who makes bangers say it was like 7 years ago
@Holistic.kendall
@Holistic.kendall Жыл бұрын
My friends and family know I’m a huge fan of Tory Lanez music. When all of this first happened, I said that he needs to be held accountable if he did do this. The evidence was overwhelming. It’s clear that he did it. Meg didn’t deserve any of that hate. Sending her nothing but healing energy
@aweshumandy
@aweshumandy Жыл бұрын
legit fans probably were like you. everyone else riding for him, weren't doing out of respect for him but disrespect for her.
@DramaShogun
@DramaShogun Жыл бұрын
@@aweshumandy i genuinely don’t believe that, I would consider myself someone who tries to use logic in situations before I give an opinion. I think they are all lying. Also the fact that they cover most the lies told on the women’s sides makes it even more sus. A witness saw two women fighting that night but both women want to cover up that fight. I want to know why? Is it because it might uncover a motive? Just being logical
@IdocarebutIdont
@IdocarebutIdont Жыл бұрын
Sry, but she somewhat did it to herself. I knew that he shot her, but seeing how she moved in public, lying and twisting the story even more, was just incredible unnecessary. Both of them were clearly lying at that point, when the story was really simple. Tory was a fuckboy, she was hurt and said something offensive to him and he shot at her. Done. But instead, she was more concerned about her image. Even going as far as claiming that she never had an intimate relationship with Tory in the first place.. Like wtf? The internet isn’t THAT stupid. You can’t expect all people to get behind her, If she got caught lying so blatantly. If you look for empathy / sympathy, lying in peoples faces, as If they were morons, won’t help. Just my two cents, I hope that justice was served.
@marcrobinson010
@marcrobinson010 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I knew as soon as it happened that he was guilty lol
@majestymxnt7384
@majestymxnt7384 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand this because there’s still no evidence that he shot her lol. Just a witness testimony that he “started shooting everywhere.” Is it possible that he could’ve hit her in that “shooting everywhere?” Yes, especially since Meg only had fragments in her foot, bullets ricochet. But there’s no solid proof that her wound actually came from him firing the gun. Keep in mind a witness said he saw a spark come from Kelcy too.
@javenturner1
@javenturner1 Жыл бұрын
The amount of people that maintained his innocence was crazy in hindsight
@Blazejones31
@Blazejones31 Жыл бұрын
Just cuz he was found guilty don’t mean he’s not innocent. We know history proves that. But it is what it is… be safe out here people
@cracksmoker2
@cracksmoker2 Жыл бұрын
@@Blazejones31 oh brother this guy stinks
@5OO_Benz
@5OO_Benz Жыл бұрын
A lot of people were also saying he did it. That doesn't mean anything, even now that he's found guilty it doesn't necessarily mean he did it
@ahahahah9189
@ahahahah9189 Жыл бұрын
there was a lot of reasonable doubt in general imo
@ace2311
@ace2311 Жыл бұрын
Idk why you acting surprised. If it was the other way around, women would be screaming saying that the justice system failed them and that " black women are the most oppressed group" yada yada yada. Fact of the matter is that the evidence in this case is so vague that it's no wonder people wouldn't accept the results
@Javi_A20
@Javi_A20 Жыл бұрын
What’s funny is all the Tory fans that were saying “innocent until proven guilty” are still saying he’s innocent despite him being found guilty.😭😭😭
@turboshazed7370
@turboshazed7370 Жыл бұрын
Yep. They gobbling for clout
@darkscorpion4507
@darkscorpion4507 Жыл бұрын
Not surprised
@akakrewsavages
@akakrewsavages Жыл бұрын
@@turboshazed7370 Bro no one is getting clout from Tory LANEZ😂😂😂😂
@turboshazed7370
@turboshazed7370 Жыл бұрын
@@akakrewsavages so sorry I meant to say TRYING to gobble for clout.
@techmo4690
@techmo4690 Жыл бұрын
People really need to stop giving these hip hop pages like No jumper attention, they just release biased false information that so many people online take as truth
@edgytypebeat781
@edgytypebeat781 Жыл бұрын
@@ram_taka3436 Fox News is the main perpetrator because they’ll attack marginalized creators without any fact-checking, this happens a lot. Domlivenews is also bad about this with spreading misinformation and lies for views with identity politic for example “object identifiers” is a common denominator among these platforms. Ex: “Man identifies as chair” or misinformation about statistics.
@missrespectful
@missrespectful Жыл бұрын
@@ram_taka3436 you’re not wrong that they release misinformation, but no jumper was literally just wrong. Not even for a clickbait article header, they literally just lied to everybody and took it down after being proven wrong.
@MXO839
@MXO839 Жыл бұрын
@@ram_taka3436 Tinfoil hat
@ArKaneAcrumProductions
@ArKaneAcrumProductions Жыл бұрын
@@ram_taka3436 oh god
@perplexed1783
@perplexed1783 Жыл бұрын
@ram_tak Nah they are not as bad as these no jumper and Dj Akademiks pages
@Ibeenflew
@Ibeenflew Жыл бұрын
Im actually refreshed to see such a popular male content creator in hip hop simply say they believed Meg the first time . Thank you.
@vins2610
@vins2610 Жыл бұрын
Anthony fantano arguably the biggest music reviewer on KZbin has always been on Megan’s side and clowns Tory every chance he gets
@Ibeenflew
@Ibeenflew Жыл бұрын
@@vins2610 I said specifically a Hip Hop content creator. Read all of the words used. Anthony Fandango is a generic reviewers of music
@vins2610
@vins2610 Жыл бұрын
@@Ibeenflew but Anthony is constantly talking about the hip hop community and reviewing that music. It seems like you don’t actually watch his content.
@vins2610
@vins2610 Жыл бұрын
@@Ibeenflew Anthony fantano if anything is a bigger figurehead in hip hop then Shawn. Multiple rappers have name dropped him, drake messaged him and essentially started a beef, He has interviewed so many rappers at this point. Anthony’s videos on hip hop get more views and discussion then any of his other reviews on his channel so to act like Anthony is just some guy that has no stake or influence in hip hop because he reviews all genres shows your lack of knowledge about him
@SimplyBmcHD
@SimplyBmcHD Жыл бұрын
@@vins2610 fantano is not a hip hop content creator, he covers it mainly because it’s the most popular music.
@thunderinaspic
@thunderinaspic Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Shawn. Disgusting to see the hate and abuse Megan has received. Why? For being assaulted! Insane
@TreyDZd
@TreyDZd Жыл бұрын
Bro his name is right there
@thunderinaspic
@thunderinaspic Жыл бұрын
@@TreyDZd thank you Lightskins R Us.
@spaceb6y
@spaceb6y Жыл бұрын
Megan didn't deserve to get shot but sure as hell deserved to get the hate she received for initially lying. You don't just say you cut your foot and then say you got shot, and then you lie saying you never slept with him in interviews when asked about it instead of being truthful she had this coming
@televisedpork7993
@televisedpork7993 Жыл бұрын
It just shows how sexist a lot of hip hop fans are. I’ve never seen so much hate for a woman before.
@adhd230
@adhd230 Жыл бұрын
Nobody is blaming her for being assaulted. The blame her for lying abt everything 😭 she lied to her friend, she lied abt who shot her, she lied abt how it happened.
@jennyneon
@jennyneon Жыл бұрын
Tory is guilty, and i love how his fans became straight up lawyers to defend Tory Lanez. They just can't accept the truth.
@1manband_j270
@1manband_j270 Жыл бұрын
tell me any actual evidence how tory is guilty
@perplexed1783
@perplexed1783 Жыл бұрын
Tory fans are in denial and chronically online
@Chris-rj4bt
@Chris-rj4bt Жыл бұрын
I mean let’s be honest here. Even tho he’s guilty it’s not beyond reasonable doubt
@havenhorlback
@havenhorlback Жыл бұрын
@@1manband_j270 whats your evidence that he's innocent?
@kingzod8536
@kingzod8536 Жыл бұрын
@@1manband_j270 gun powered found on him, and bullet fragments in Megan's legs. Ballistics test.
@nashefore1912
@nashefore1912 Жыл бұрын
Dammm😭 "find another guy to feed your own insecurities too" shawn might be the reason niggas will consider going to therapy 🤣
@tnago916
@tnago916 Жыл бұрын
Therapy????
@tbcrichey
@tbcrichey Жыл бұрын
Nah y’all lost lying hoes can continue that it’s been working so well
@ooostarb3rryooo
@ooostarb3rryooo Жыл бұрын
I hope that's the case, lot of them need it.
@ThePFD518
@ThePFD518 Жыл бұрын
And the guy they chose is Tory Lanez lmao. If you're gonna pick a rapper to do that, at least chose a better one.
@devanshepard9118
@devanshepard9118 Жыл бұрын
This whole thing has shown a lot of people do not understand or know the law
@xanira6367
@xanira6367 Жыл бұрын
Well the system is very very flawed, but yea, most ppl have no clue how it works
@user-hn8eo7sh4m
@user-hn8eo7sh4m Жыл бұрын
It also showed how many people lack media literacy.
@tnago916
@tnago916 Жыл бұрын
They wouldn't have been questioning the law if he was found not guilty.
@swag2853
@swag2853 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, FREE TORY you really think there was no reasonable doubt whatsoever that he did it? Did you follow the trial at all? Or did you just see the verdict and decided oh he did it 😂
@jas1565
@jas1565 Жыл бұрын
@@swag2853 What reasonable doubt was there? The case was did Tory shoot Meg.. three witnesses said he did. What is there to doubt? The defense offered nothing to prove otherwise especially when their star witness said he saw Tory with the gun shooting multiple times.
@feebaby
@feebaby Жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking with logic. I think a lot of people are refusing to admit they were wrong
@tnago916
@tnago916 Жыл бұрын
These people blaming everyone but tory, they are doing the same thing they claimed women and those who support Megan would have done if Tory was found not guilty. The roc nation conspiracies floating around are hilarious to say the least
@dboyedoe
@dboyedoe Жыл бұрын
And when they spoke, Logic mentioned that he was biracial.
@mackstacks8913
@mackstacks8913 Жыл бұрын
@@tnago916 The Roc Nation piece is the funniest to me. They really turned a mid major record label into the illuminati lmaoooo
@tnago916
@tnago916 Жыл бұрын
@@mackstacks8913 Exactl,y its not 2018 anymore where everyone believed anyone with money sold their soul. Ive seen the most funniest crazed outbursts since this verdict, one lady on twitter even comparing this situation to emmet till 💀 like what goes through their brains.
@mackstacks8913
@mackstacks8913 Жыл бұрын
@@tnago916 lmaooo I def seen the Emmit Till tweet. Im convinced that was a troll for retweets
@ariw9405
@ariw9405 Жыл бұрын
The crazy part is Meg still loses. Her personal and sex life was dragged through the mud. Her character was besmirched and now she has to deal with arm chair detectives and lawyers running through the case with all their lies still antagonizing her! Tori may be going to jail but in no way does Meg “win” anything. For me it’s the women that tearing her down most disheartening, at what point are we as women going to stop attacking other women to seek acceptance and approval from men. Sis those are the men you 100% should be avoiding!
@AriesGirl7719
@AriesGirl7719 Жыл бұрын
I concur on everything you wrote here!
@farahwork2552
@farahwork2552 Жыл бұрын
I honestly do think this is a small win for megan! Things will get better and Im sure its healing having your abuser face accountablity
@diablabeauty4585
@diablabeauty4585 Жыл бұрын
The sad simple minded reason being jealousy 🥴
@darrielbaldwin3087
@darrielbaldwin3087 Жыл бұрын
omg THANK YOU. The thing that pissed me off the MOST was the blatant disregard of misinformation. especially the ig bloggers/akademics/other dumb rappers just publicly spreading lies and not even willing to acknowledge the lies they spread. I honestly hope she follows through with suing these people.
@A2Zondeck
@A2Zondeck Жыл бұрын
Shawn your anger in the twitchstream was cathartic, thanks for supporting the facts
@vincentgallegos9805
@vincentgallegos9805 Жыл бұрын
Dude your so well spoken and I appreciate the thought you put into these videos man
@whotfisjordan
@whotfisjordan Жыл бұрын
^ mfs really go out their way to argue. let the man give a compliment.
@lightzthestarz
@lightzthestarz Жыл бұрын
@@kingsofthegridironare you good?
@jimmyramirez7377
@jimmyramirez7377 Жыл бұрын
@@lightzthestarz no he’s smArt
@nateishereagain1219
@nateishereagain1219 Жыл бұрын
@@lightzthestarz people r sad lol
@Shantellywashington
@Shantellywashington Жыл бұрын
Ignore that dude lmao trynna flex grammar on u like we know what u meant
@juancarlosb9781
@juancarlosb9781 Жыл бұрын
Dude really dropped an album arguing his innocence just to get proved guilty😂
@sora1498
@sora1498 Жыл бұрын
the fact the album was garbage too is even funnier
@4107moneyway
@4107moneyway Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t trash stfu
@MrSmith-fl2jn
@MrSmith-fl2jn Жыл бұрын
He wasn't proven guilty, he was found guilty big difference
@juancarlosb9781
@juancarlosb9781 Жыл бұрын
@@MrSmith-fl2jn tell that to the judge😂
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
@Gurpreet-sv5zg Жыл бұрын
@@MrSmith-fl2jn People still coping I see.
@drewOG3
@drewOG3 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad to see critical thinking isn’t completely dead on KZbin. Thank you, Shawn
@levi-homer
@levi-homer Жыл бұрын
amen
@tearsnotfears08
@tearsnotfears08 Жыл бұрын
this is what you call critical thinking?
@ejakaegypt
@ejakaegypt Жыл бұрын
@@tearsnotfears08 that’s what they said Learn to read
@yvngsn0w
@yvngsn0w Жыл бұрын
Stop d riding this pretentious clown 🤡
@Shantellywashington
@Shantellywashington Жыл бұрын
@@tearsnotfears08you slow or something?
@marmiteghost
@marmiteghost Жыл бұрын
the craziest thing wasnt even the ppl believing tory's innocence, it was how it always ended with shitting on meg??? like in an era where rappers are all dying to gun violence, it's cool to completely dogpile a survivor of a shooting? the double standards are wild
@jaymezkaytah
@jaymezkaytah Жыл бұрын
Not the misogynists that camped here calling Megan a liar flip flopping
@aworte3266
@aworte3266 Жыл бұрын
They scattering like roaches for cover when the truth shines a light
@TyandOnGoing
@TyandOnGoing Жыл бұрын
Even if he didn't shoot her megan still was a victim to his care plus had problems even after the shooting which is why he didnt go up to testify.
@perplexed1783
@perplexed1783 Жыл бұрын
W megan
@turtle7459
@turtle7459 Жыл бұрын
@@aworte3266 Some are still scrapping it out in YT comments like he'll notice them if they do. Shits embarrassing
@SolidSnake240
@SolidSnake240 Жыл бұрын
So does that make all the people that immidiately deemed Tory guilty before the trial misandrists?
@kw9568
@kw9568 Жыл бұрын
Im surprised nobody talking about his history with altercations with August alsina, Travis Scott, pulled a gun on Dax and domestic violence history. Tory admitted to Joe Buden he has anger management issues to the point he has black out RAGE!!! He definitely shot Megan for dissing his music.
@khalilroberts1704
@khalilroberts1704 Жыл бұрын
And he just Settled a case for beating up prince from love and hip hop he’s a little Menace that needed to be put away
@LP-ct9nk
@LP-ct9nk Жыл бұрын
Because if people did they would realize Tory is the problem, and that gets in the way of blindly caping for him
@kw9568
@kw9568 Жыл бұрын
@@LP-ct9nk Facts!!!!!
@ayadhyist
@ayadhyist Жыл бұрын
They didn’t care about supporting him until a black woman was harmed. Interesting…
@Rossoneri2
@Rossoneri2 Жыл бұрын
I still find it weird how he apologized when this all began then claimed he was innocent
@jas1565
@jas1565 Жыл бұрын
He denied Meg was even shot for two years
@Rossoneri2
@Rossoneri2 Жыл бұрын
@@jas1565 he denied it after apologizing though, why would you do that then swear up and down that she's lying
@jas1565
@jas1565 Жыл бұрын
@@Rossoneri2 Exactly. I don't recall him ever saying he didn't shoot Meg, he just denied she got shot.. then got to trial and blamed it on Kelsey.
@will_9910
@will_9910 Жыл бұрын
I see what you're saying, but apologizing doesn't always equate to not innocent/wrong, or to you doing a bad thing. Him being in this situation in general all started off the fact that he was sleeping with both women like a degenerate. Stupid choices get you stupid rewards.
@nyshyn307
@nyshyn307 Жыл бұрын
His apology was never specific to anything, which is honestly suspicious as hell 😂😂
@tine272
@tine272 Жыл бұрын
Shame on everyone in Shawn's comment section that kept defending that man's actions and ridiculed a hurt black woman
@302manman6
@302manman6 Жыл бұрын
Im so sick of this fake as gender war smh
@weeveepee7654
@weeveepee7654 Жыл бұрын
I never want to hear about this case again lol
@kwoo6925
@kwoo6925 Жыл бұрын
I'm ngl he changed my whole mind on this trial, it's crazy though cause that's not even a good thing. I feel like instead of being swayed into a different outlook onto something. I should've already done my own research enough to form my own conclusion and then most likely somewhat be on the same page he is on this video. it's crazy the effect of misinformation and lack of insight by social media and our own self could make some of these details in the case just magically disappear to fit a narrative.
@dewilew2137
@dewilew2137 Жыл бұрын
You are the first person I’ve seen admit to being misled by these bloggers and content creators, and I applaud you for it. Everyone else is just doubling down, blinded by their own willful ignorance.
@tnago916
@tnago916 Жыл бұрын
Yes do your own credible media research. Akademiks is one of the main idiots trying hard to sway people on this topic when it was more than obvious he did shoot Megan. There were 47 pieces of evidence the prosecution provided and 4 pieces of evidence tory's defense provided (instagram posts).
@kwoo6925
@kwoo6925 Жыл бұрын
@@dewilew2137 I feel like most of that type of behavior is fueled by that excessive form of bigotry people hold onto and the "never feel wrong it's my opinion" type of thing. twitter and other social media sites really made people feel way too comfortable with being loudly wrong and ignorant.
@leorodrigues9596
@leorodrigues9596 Жыл бұрын
nobody is above propaganda ; people believe what they wanna believe
@malcolmxpanther
@malcolmxpanther Жыл бұрын
My mind only changed after the Gayle King interview when she lied about sleeping with Tory and getting into a two minute fight with Kelsey. I was on the AK train after that, Drake and 50 Cent didn’t help, I think a lot of rappers didn’t like how she lied about sleeping with him. That’s why she’s been getting unfollowed. Like it or not
@angeldust6738
@angeldust6738 Жыл бұрын
I don't see why anyone would want to lie about who shot them
@Wizardzfoot
@Wizardzfoot Жыл бұрын
She has six bottles of henny. O aint believing her words
@perplexed1783
@perplexed1783 Жыл бұрын
@Midas Can't Miss Seems like you're the high one here cuz idk wtf you talkin about
@avery465
@avery465 Жыл бұрын
@@Wizardzfoot she would literally be dead if she drank that much 🤣. People reach so much
@Wizardzfoot
@Wizardzfoot Жыл бұрын
@@avery465 bro you can watch her own live from that night. Shawty was gone
@highclassnast1413
@highclassnast1413 Жыл бұрын
@@theinsidertraderfx_ lmaoo happens all the time
@Ten.ofcups
@Ten.ofcups Жыл бұрын
man I just hope meg gets some time to cope from everything her mom passing away then this my heart goes out to her
@corijaiden
@corijaiden Жыл бұрын
right like her mother, father, and grandmother are gone, and these people still treated her the way they did. it’s disgusting
@Hazim_Brown
@Hazim_Brown Жыл бұрын
@@corijaidenDamn…
@Diana_222
@Diana_222 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I truly believe that’s why she drinks so much.
@raywhite685
@raywhite685 Жыл бұрын
Yo thank you man for being one of the few individuals reporting this case honestly and more importantly factually. It’s insane how people will take a headline and run with it like it’s facts. Keep that integrity man I love the content
@fregus.
@fregus. Жыл бұрын
bruh how the *fuck* do you get SHOT and people still treat you like someone who isn't a victim?? Wtf is wrong with this industry?
@farahwork2552
@farahwork2552 Жыл бұрын
society unfortunately
@rashadofwar4605
@rashadofwar4605 Жыл бұрын
The way men have been shitting on this woman since she came out was always wild to me but watching Men Defend Tory even after the evidence shows he was guilty shows me the world we’ve come to
@hiiipower42
@hiiipower42 Жыл бұрын
This case has mad holes in it & you know it, if this happened to your brother you wouldn't be saying this.
@XxxMuseluverxxX
@XxxMuseluverxxX Жыл бұрын
@@hiiipower42 It’s Tory’s gun, he apologized to Kelsey, Meg and Meg’s bodyguard that night after she was shot-when the situation first happened, he was on IG, saying Kelsey was not the shooter. If you, Kelsey and Meg are the only ones involved in this altercation and Kelsey is not the shooter, and Meg is the victim, per what Tory said, then Tory is the shooter. Let’s use our brains now.
@hiiipower42
@hiiipower42 Жыл бұрын
@@XxxMuseluverxxX then why did the eye witness see Kelsey with the gun first? Why did she plead the 5th?
@rashadofwar4605
@rashadofwar4605 Жыл бұрын
@@hiiipower42 My friend there’s no holes in this , You getting bad info & if my Brother shot a woman , or anyone for that matter , tried to apologize about it , Pay the friend off , then turn around & Start quoting bible references To look good in the public eye , Im tellin that nigga he’s a lunatic & needs help
@rashadofwar4605
@rashadofwar4605 Жыл бұрын
@@hiiipower42 & Kelsey pleaded the fifth when asked If she had taken money from Tory , that tells you she ain’t wanna answer because that would Incriminate Her & him
@WoolfJ35
@WoolfJ35 Жыл бұрын
How anyone who actually did any amount of research in this case and still defend Tory is just disgusting.
@rockboyblue
@rockboyblue Жыл бұрын
outrageous take. any “research” to be done on the case has to do with lost evidence, drunken recollections, multiple different versions of the same story being told, lies inside and outside the court, as well as shoddy dna testings. not advocating for tory but there were a LOT of holes in this case for their to be no reasonable doubt whatsoever. wouldn’t be surprised to see some appeals asap
@calebjohnson7617
@calebjohnson7617 Жыл бұрын
If he would have testified it would have been a different story. Let’s not pretend we know what happened
@alirooble6826
@alirooble6826 Жыл бұрын
Ion know pls help me. Cause I thought Tory was going to be found innocent.
@jamesmorell1758
@jamesmorell1758 Жыл бұрын
Not to be that guy. But you can never be found innocent, only not guilty. Not guilty relies on reasonable doubt. Innocence says there is a 0% chance that this person did what they were accused of. It's an impossible burden of proof because most court cases are not so cut and dry to be able to say there is no way possible in the universe that this person did it.
@xbabu142x
@xbabu142x Жыл бұрын
@@alirooble6826 Tory Lanez plead not guilty to assault with a semiautomatic firearm, carrying a loaded unregistered firearm in a vehicle, and discharge of a firearm with gross negligence, according to prosecutors. The jury convicted him on all three counts due to shell casings retrieved, the vehicle being his, the gunshot residue on him and multiple eye witnesses saying he fired the weapon. The charges have nothing to do with Megan, the state of California picked up the case since in California what happened was multiple felonies.
@NiyiDaNinja
@NiyiDaNinja Жыл бұрын
Anybdy with a brain knows he did that shit, I'm just surprised this garbage ass "justice" system got it right
@rogue9230
@rogue9230 Жыл бұрын
Anyone with a brain even if he DID do it knows there wasn't sufficient enough evidence for the jury to reach this verdict this country is a joke
@NiyiDaNinja
@NiyiDaNinja Жыл бұрын
@@rogue9230 his gun got shot, that bullet ended up in the foot of someone else, and he got arrested for carrying a concealed weapon the same night, that's an open and shut case for anyone who doesn't have the money to prolong the court process and waste people's times
@romaretaylor9953
@romaretaylor9953 Жыл бұрын
@@NiyiDaNinja “anybody with a brain” nigga chill I wasn’t sayin he def didn’t do it but there was a time where it was 50/50. I never put all my eggs in one basket tho so 🤷🏾‍♂️
@tnago916
@tnago916 Жыл бұрын
No fr. Like the prosecution had 47 pieces of evidence along with testimonies proving tory did it. I didn't think that would have been enough.
@lastevolution6678
@lastevolution6678 Жыл бұрын
​@@tnago916 name 5 pieces of that evidence, a text message saying sorry but not wat for? kelsey literally saying she lied to the prosecutors? kelsey saying tory shot meg in a text then denying it on the stand? the eye witness saying he saw the first shot closer to the girl? no witness corroborating megans story at all, no one else heard "dance bitch"? the prosecutions case was a shit show and that was the problem. Theres a difference between thinking someone did it and proving it in court beyond reasonable doubt and I dont even think the prosecution thought they'd win this case they didnt even use their own witnesses words in their closing because they both admitted to lying previously.
@drine8030
@drine8030 7 ай бұрын
This was a breath of fresh air….thank you
@noirnoir4276
@noirnoir4276 Жыл бұрын
Drake owe's Megan an apology. His fans went at her hard.
@televisedpork7993
@televisedpork7993 Жыл бұрын
I highly doubt he’ll do it unfortunately. Speaking of Drake, we need to address his grooming, cause that’s still getting swept under the rug.
@EazyRocko
@EazyRocko Жыл бұрын
@@televisedpork7993 oh my god will you stop witg this bullshit there isn't proof that he is a groomer shit has been debunked I don't know what you want let it go and Drake don't have to apologize he doesn't owe her anything
@rodb66
@rodb66 Жыл бұрын
Drake has shown himself just like others.
@ShadNick89
@ShadNick89 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy when people have these whole scenarios for what happened, but we just had the trial, if there was a place for this to be proven it was during the trial. Tory had the chance to prove his innocence and he didn’t, Tory was on trial, not Meg.
@nyshyn307
@nyshyn307 Жыл бұрын
The last part is wrong: US law works on innocent until proven guilty so yes it was on Meg and her team. If the jury didn't find them convincing he wouldn't have been charged
@jaylanthompson
@jaylanthompson Жыл бұрын
@@nyshyn307 unnecessary lol
@mikefun7482
@mikefun7482 Жыл бұрын
Just being in this situation, makes Tory a clown. Guilty or not.
@perplexed1783
@perplexed1783 Жыл бұрын
He has always been a clown
@RobGradyVO
@RobGradyVO Жыл бұрын
for real tho
@othelliusmaximus
@othelliusmaximus Жыл бұрын
@@perplexed1783 was there ever a time before now when niggas took him seriously?
@wildhearts242
@wildhearts242 Жыл бұрын
@@othelliusmaximusNope. Dude’s didn’t start going super hard for Tory until he shot a woman (and that’s real)
@othelliusmaximus
@othelliusmaximus Жыл бұрын
@@wildhearts242 my point exactly. Them niggas be so fake. They turned into his biggest fans over night.
@silvatv7025
@silvatv7025 Жыл бұрын
My homie shawn lowkey dissing DJ Akademiks 🙋🏽‍♂️🤣
@HotTaiCurry
@HotTaiCurry Жыл бұрын
Nah that’s not far enough, we need to high key shame that man. We’ve gotten way to comfortable with not actively shaming somebody who is a whole PSA on what not to be, and by god that is Akademics.
@jessp8238
@jessp8238 Жыл бұрын
@@HotTaiCurry Absolutely!
@Feliciatanktop
@Feliciatanktop Жыл бұрын
As he should!
@silvatv7025
@silvatv7025 Жыл бұрын
@@HotTaiCurry bro he just speakin what he thinks from his type of view and he always says that so if u dont care about his opinions or dont like it then dont listen Same with shawn he does have good points some days but some days he also talks bullshit but I respect it cause I only speaks what HE thinks about smth
@Yusbeh
@Yusbeh Жыл бұрын
Shawn Cee always spittin bars, thats why you the goat !!
@nashefore1912
@nashefore1912 Жыл бұрын
Shawn's nonchalant demeanor is definitely a factor too😅
@keenh1075
@keenh1075 Жыл бұрын
Okay, my respect for Shawn just went all the way up.
@jamescordensnumber1simp209
@jamescordensnumber1simp209 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see Megan getting the Justice she deserves. Situation is fucked
@edwardbravo6908
@edwardbravo6908 Жыл бұрын
Shawn shot meg, just read an article about it.
@kysell
@kysell Жыл бұрын
FR I WAS LITERALLY THERE
@Set451
@Set451 Жыл бұрын
Was he found guilty in court by a jury of his peers?
@LTRUTH334
@LTRUTH334 Жыл бұрын
@@Set451 no they blame it on Tory instead
@perplexed1783
@perplexed1783 Жыл бұрын
I can confirm I was the gun
@louis2172
@louis2172 Жыл бұрын
True I was the bullet
@ritwik1410
@ritwik1410 Жыл бұрын
men LOVE to talk about court, ligitation and "innocent before proven guilty" until their fav rapper is found guilty for some shit they undeniably did
@Thoughtitwasadrought
@Thoughtitwasadrought Жыл бұрын
Pretty much agree with u on everything. Them manosphere news outlets are weirdos
@pfroggy23
@pfroggy23 Жыл бұрын
Imagine D riding Tory Lanez 😂
@ashutoshffs
@ashutoshffs Жыл бұрын
merry christmas shawn
@edgybastardo
@edgybastardo Жыл бұрын
the weirdest part of all this is how many people became tory lanez fans because of this whole situation
@cecilytait2312
@cecilytait2312 Жыл бұрын
I feel dumb. I was on tory side (as a black man) I hated the bad mouthing and I got my info wrong what u said made a lot of sense... But I wish this case wasn't used as a men v women. Men always bad. Cause come on guys it's immature and as a black dude it's annoying but I get It. Before I say anything about a situation I'll do my research. Gotta go apologize in some Instagram comments 😭. My pride 😩
@jessp8238
@jessp8238 Жыл бұрын
Just make sure your not doing “man bad” things and stand out.
@chipp255
@chipp255 Жыл бұрын
You specifying that ur a black man twice really makes you sound like someone trying to be black💀no offense if u really are but bro u sound like an alien trying to fit in
@ericbarrierIII
@ericbarrierIII Жыл бұрын
This why I respect you man! All the people defending Tory are making me lose brain cells. Thanks for having some common sense!
@xfacterman1047
@xfacterman1047 Жыл бұрын
This right here, this is why I've been subbed for 5 years even though your taste in music is invalid.
@themaddestvillain-g4q
@themaddestvillain-g4q Жыл бұрын
The fact there are people that are still supporting Tory is shocking to me
@junaid9936
@junaid9936 Жыл бұрын
Stan culture is something else smh
@perplexed1783
@perplexed1783 Жыл бұрын
They are delusional stans who don't go outside
@themaddestvillain-g4q
@themaddestvillain-g4q Жыл бұрын
@@perplexed1783 this is exactly why I don’t listen to Tory Lanez
@perplexed1783
@perplexed1783 Жыл бұрын
@thenerdykid2001 You're not missing out on anything, He is mediocre at best
@TuanTran-qq6zs
@TuanTran-qq6zs Жыл бұрын
Time to stop listening to tory, gonna start listening to r kelly instead
@dopekidrepublic
@dopekidrepublic Жыл бұрын
This is why I didn't say much regarding this topic. Tory look like the kinda guy to do something like this which is why I just stopped consuming his music. Not because it makes me a "better person" (faq that), but because it didn't feel right for me to continue supporting him... he's done a lot of corny shiii that fueled this decision in fact. It sucks that this was the verdict and I was proven right but it is what it is.
@romaretaylor9953
@romaretaylor9953 Жыл бұрын
I won’t listen to daystar and beyond but his old shit from 2012-2017 before he got lost in the sauce will still get played sometimes. Shit was Great music I can’t be fake and act like dude wasn’t talented
@Birdyboys
@Birdyboys Жыл бұрын
@@romaretaylor9953bruh. Shut up
@wahoo4uva
@wahoo4uva Жыл бұрын
you’re a good and rational man who’s been raised well shawn cee. i enjoy your content. respect. merry holidays (whatever and if you celebrate). ❤✨
@krusher181
@krusher181 Жыл бұрын
I found it funny how Tory had basically no visible fans until he allegedly shot a woman, then all of a sudden he had a million defenders. And they had literally no reason other than loyalty to their gender… wild.
@yuioyup
@yuioyup Жыл бұрын
This logic is insane
@shantellakaladypersephone8671
@shantellakaladypersephone8671 Жыл бұрын
FACTSSSSS Most of these niggas and pickmes out here don't know 3 of his songs by heart. Its ALL Misogyny
@chipp255
@chipp255 Жыл бұрын
@@yuioyup it's really not😭 look at his numbers before and after he shot meg. Some ppl are really about that hating life
@sora1498
@sora1498 Жыл бұрын
still wild af people thought he was innocent
@rogue9230
@rogue9230 Жыл бұрын
And we gone believe Megan anymore? She span her story in different directions so many times that theirs too many sides of the stories that were pushed out as the narrative from gossip sites like TMZ, DJ akedemics, no jumper etc
@ihycid
@ihycid Жыл бұрын
This shit taught me how these rap blogs really shifted the narrative as Megan as a lying hoe and shii. Me personally, I waited for the verdict, the law declared this mf guilty, this mf guilty.
@ritchielalo6647
@ritchielalo6647 Жыл бұрын
i didnt think he was innocent but i did think he could beat the case 🤷‍♂️
@dreameva1400
@dreameva1400 Жыл бұрын
@@ritchielalo6647 well you're wrong
@ritchielalo6647
@ritchielalo6647 Жыл бұрын
@@dreameva1400 yeah no shit lol
@trapadvisor
@trapadvisor 11 ай бұрын
You’re a real one for this. You’re so distinguished.
@docdoctme
@docdoctme Жыл бұрын
Thank you Shawn for your analysis. I always loved your level headed opinions. The internet was brutal and it is amazing how that will cloud the judgement of facts.
@phillipbell4394
@phillipbell4394 Жыл бұрын
This was one of the guiltiest dudes I've ever seen. How was this controversial?
@rogue9230
@rogue9230 Жыл бұрын
Because he didn't do it
@issahumps
@issahumps Жыл бұрын
@@rogue9230what evidence says he didn’t do it? 😂 wtf some social media posts? Lol
@rogue9230
@rogue9230 Жыл бұрын
@@issahumps his DNA, the only eye witness the things that led up to that situation Megan spinning the story in too many different angles this countrys justice system is ruining the country
@LEGENDSIN4KREMASTERED
@LEGENDSIN4KREMASTERED Жыл бұрын
@@issahumpsYou wasn’t in the courtroom - I WAS. That man was rail roaded. The amount of evidence that was left out and the amount of stuff the Judge let in when the time frame was out - was really not fair to Tory.
@Birdyboys
@Birdyboys Жыл бұрын
@@LEGENDSIN4KREMASTEREDsource: dude trust me
@Jasmine-ot8br
@Jasmine-ot8br Жыл бұрын
Thank you Shawn . ❤❤❤❤ wish more black men would speak on this without so much bias
@ejakaegypt
@ejakaegypt Жыл бұрын
The way his father is acting is speaking volumes. He’d rather go after others instead of holding his own son accountable
@lauracoyoy7166
@lauracoyoy7166 Жыл бұрын
in my forensic science program, and i’m pretty sure every fsci program around the country, they mention the csi effect in virtually every course. how forensic science is displayed in the media and how media portrayal of physical evidence may sway jurors or other concerned parties to rely on just physical evidence (in this case the public), was particularly concerning in this case. not only was there a lot of bias from media bloggers, but even then the amount of people who didn’t bother to look up what the word “inconclusive” meant was quite impressive.
@fearstreak7462
@fearstreak7462 Жыл бұрын
Really going at the heart of the issue here man, really appreciate this cover
@Kahnsie
@Kahnsie Жыл бұрын
I've been saying Tory guilty since day one. People just hate Meg for some reason.
@AsbestosFilter
@AsbestosFilter Жыл бұрын
man the aftermath of amber-depp situation still felt even to this day
@BigOwl51
@BigOwl51 Жыл бұрын
Even if Tory wasn’t guilty (and he is) he’d still be an accomplice for not turning Kelsey in to the police. So regardless of who shot the gun, both Tory and Kelsey deserve jail time because one of them shot Meg and the other one stayed silent. But I believe Tory shot her and the mountain of evidence +his conviction validates that opinion. Hopefully Kelsey gets hit with a perjury charge and is locked up as well.
@jamilawilliams4827
@jamilawilliams4827 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your intellect in comparison to these other KZbinrs who are clearly biased
@Adam-em1xk
@Adam-em1xk Жыл бұрын
The bias in news and what people want to hear is definitely scary af because it then becomes people's beliefs out in real life and they become more disconnected from their actual lived-in environments.
@lostbarehomies8615
@lostbarehomies8615 Жыл бұрын
Shooting someone in the foot is aggravated assault 4-7 year makes sense. But 22 years is a sentence meant for killers.. this is crazy
@choppaentertainmentnetwork
@choppaentertainmentnetwork Жыл бұрын
thats just what hes facing, he hasnt been sentenced yet hes prolly gonna be doing a lot less
@janefkrbtt
@janefkrbtt Жыл бұрын
GUILTY I SAY
@fiiiftyfour
@fiiiftyfour Жыл бұрын
Fantastic breakdown Shawn
@jfifthb
@jfifthb Жыл бұрын
I'm just glad the case is over fr
@UMVELINQANGI
@UMVELINQANGI Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your intelligent and well-reasoned commentary. Thank you.
@User-vm4qy
@User-vm4qy Жыл бұрын
This your biggest W yet
@LorenCognita
@LorenCognita Жыл бұрын
It’s soooo refreshing to see you and so many other bm in your comments not taking joy in a bw being shot and championing her shooter, I really could cry right now 🥹♥️
@olumideajose2162
@olumideajose2162 Жыл бұрын
It’s shocking but not surprising
@perplexed1783
@perplexed1783 Жыл бұрын
Nothing shocking, That dude has always been violent
@Abandoned2377
@Abandoned2377 Жыл бұрын
@@perplexed1783 so has meg. What we talking about here.
@dewilew2137
@dewilew2137 Жыл бұрын
@@Abandoned2377 who has she been violent towards?
@tnago916
@tnago916 Жыл бұрын
Not shocking at all. He wasn't even convincing, even when he had his rapper friends join in the taunting of Megan. At first he even implied Megan wasn't shot at all.
@Abandoned2377
@Abandoned2377 Жыл бұрын
@@dewilew2137 her driver testified and said shes a violent drunk I've watched her admit in interviews shes put hands on past boy friends and has a habit of it.
@invaderzim3745
@invaderzim3745 Жыл бұрын
where are your wall vinyls?? you are the reason why I started collecting them because I thought they were so cool
@kristofermccormack6
@kristofermccormack6 Жыл бұрын
He moved house I'm pretty sure
@insert_a_handle_here
@insert_a_handle_here Жыл бұрын
Yeah they're not cool anymore
@dewilew2137
@dewilew2137 Жыл бұрын
Corny.
@laurent1163
@laurent1163 Жыл бұрын
It's the intelligence for me Bravo well said
@donovanpastor4856
@donovanpastor4856 Жыл бұрын
Shawn, your fade is on point
@YeaNo.
@YeaNo. Жыл бұрын
I've only really seen men on the internet-- primarily Twitter-- doing this weird alternative facts thing. Like we can all look up the facts of the case. It was pretty clear... he was going to be convicted of something even if not the singular assault charge.
@ejakaegypt
@ejakaegypt Жыл бұрын
They wouldn’t be trying to question the law if he was found not guilty
@DJANGO_excl
@DJANGO_excl Жыл бұрын
Tory Lanez gotta be the biggest clown ever
@perplexed1783
@perplexed1783 Жыл бұрын
Nah he is the whole circus and his fanbase are the clowns
@kxngmuzikig2417
@kxngmuzikig2417 Жыл бұрын
(i never fully followed this case) I had a feeling he was guilty but never bet on anything. I was 100% sure he was guilty when him and his team jumped August Alsina and got a gun charge, while the trial was being prepared
@iwallymazon3773
@iwallymazon3773 Жыл бұрын
WHAT A GREAT TAKE.
@balmainattitude
@balmainattitude Жыл бұрын
finally you went off. Video is all facts start to finish. So many weird grown men on the internet talking down on her in this situation the whole time just because. Literally. Men are not Men today.
@generalknowledge8068
@generalknowledge8068 Жыл бұрын
Go outside
@balmainattitude
@balmainattitude Жыл бұрын
@@generalknowledge8068 you go outside. he’s guilty
@generalknowledge8068
@generalknowledge8068 Жыл бұрын
@@balmainattitude who said he wasn’t just go outside
@Sevion825
@Sevion825 Жыл бұрын
Men are not like this in real life. Women are also very different from how they are portrayed on the internet. If you come from this thinking men or women are a certain way then you probably should go outside in all honesty.
@generalknowledge8068
@generalknowledge8068 Жыл бұрын
@@Sevion825 exactly
@Kasy2424
@Kasy2424 Жыл бұрын
This is my first time coming across your channel and after watcing this video I had to subscribe. Good on you for being objective on this situation.
@noahwainwright4774
@noahwainwright4774 Жыл бұрын
Professor Cee did not miss one time this video
@theeradiantgoddess
@theeradiantgoddess Жыл бұрын
Thank you Shawn. If only it was more intelligent and insightful black men that speaks like you.
@Mike-uf6wf
@Mike-uf6wf Жыл бұрын
There are lots of black men like him y’all just focus on the trash ones
@Mike-uf6wf
@Mike-uf6wf Жыл бұрын
And most of the black men defending Tory lanez were those trash men
@theeradiantgoddess
@theeradiantgoddess Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-uf6wf facts
@jessp8238
@jessp8238 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-uf6wf Not enough Mike, that’s the problem.
@chayabat-tzvi1215
@chayabat-tzvi1215 Жыл бұрын
As a Canadian, WE DO NOT WANT HIM HERE.
@AlmightyGP
@AlmightyGP Жыл бұрын
Blue pill
@vielotal2461
@vielotal2461 Жыл бұрын
He from y’all bro you can’t just disclaim that 😂
@tatarsauce6314
@tatarsauce6314 Жыл бұрын
@@AlmightyGP damn you got em good…….
@zanuelmoore1320
@zanuelmoore1320 Жыл бұрын
That drake bar ain’t age well.
@naaorima
@naaorima Жыл бұрын
Wow justifiable anger is so endearing ❤ #protectblackwomen
@jsun7972
@jsun7972 Жыл бұрын
That George Floyd comment was spot on. People saying he died of fentanyl don't read or research AT ALL. And quoting Kanye as a reference on ANYTHING is an "L" because he literally said he doesn't read books... So basically anything he says on any topic is him repeating something he heard.
@chelseybrown2334
@chelseybrown2334 Жыл бұрын
Videos like this is why I’ll always fuck with this channel
@rhakeem66
@rhakeem66 Жыл бұрын
Deeply thoughtful introspection...thank you Shawn
@ArchivedAngel001
@ArchivedAngel001 Жыл бұрын
"Prosecutors showed a text message Harris sent to Megan's security guard the night of the alleged shooting that read, "Help. Tory shot Meg. 911." However, Harris claimed she does not know why she said that because she did not see anything happen. Harris has refused to refer to anything that night as a shooting, only that she heard gunshots. When asked by prosecutors if Lanez shot her, she issued her Fifth Amendment right. Harris continued saying she did not want to be at the trial and that taking the stand was "triggering" for her. Harris was excused on Thursday, but could be called back to the stand."
@RapPhilosophy
@RapPhilosophy Жыл бұрын
Forget the feelings. The point is there was clearly some reasonable doubt from all the varying testimony. Anyone accused should only be found guilty in the absence of any doubt at all.
@Luckcat16
@Luckcat16 Жыл бұрын
Guns are notoriously difficult to get prints off of. They often have ridged surfaces that don't take prints well. Also, cleaning solutions used on guns makes it difficult for prints to stay on a gun. Unfortunately, CSI is just tv. It's not how forensics actually works. The thing about court is that jurors are allowed to draw their conclusions based on who they believe. They are instructed to bring their common sense with them. We've all been lied to. We know what that looks like. They clearly sat and listened to Meg and believed her. They also believed the defenses own witness, who said he saw Tori shoot. They also believed Meg's friend's initial statement, you know, the one from before Tori went on an intimidation campaign. Tori literally tried to bribe the women, and you just don't do that if you're innocent. The inconsistencies in their stories actually lend some credibility. If everyone was lying, it would be the same lie. You never get the exact same story from 3 different people who witnessed a traumatic event. That's not how human brains work. Regardless, one key fact was the same: Tori shot Meg. The end.
@RapPhilosophy
@RapPhilosophy Жыл бұрын
@@Luckcat16 I mean yeah I suppose the jury can go based on the story that sounds best but the law is If it cannot be proved without a doubt that a defendant in a criminal case is guilty, then that person should not be convicted. And there surely is some doubt based on the varying testimony.
@wahoo4uva
@wahoo4uva Жыл бұрын
@@RapPhilosophy you seem to be overlooking that the evidence presented to the jury, including all of the testimony THEY heard, proved TO THE JURY beyond a shadow of a doubt that Tory shot Meg; hence, the guilty verdict. There was no doubt in the jury’s (collective) mind that he shot her. There’s doubt in *yours* but you weren’t on the jury. Personal opinion on if there was reasonable doubt or not is inconsequential to the case outcome. Personal opinion differing from the jury’s decision to convict doesn’t mean the law wasn’t followed. That’s it.
@Luckcat16
@Luckcat16 Жыл бұрын
@Rap Philosophy The case law in most states is that an individual can be convicted based on the testimony of a single witness - if the jury believes that person beyond a reasonable doubt. The reason for that is that a lot of crimes happen in secret. Think of child sexual abuse cases. Those are rarely reported when there's still viable forensic evidence and there are rarely eye witnesses. But if a child comes into the courtroom and describes the abuse in detail and you fully believe her, the defendant can be convicted. Jurors are allowed to take and discard any testimony they see fit because they are the ones in court who actually witness the testimony. They can see the body language and hear the tone of voice that you can't if you aren't there. For instance, if a victim comes in and testifies that nothing happened, but the jury can see that the victim is cowering and clearly afraid of the defendant in court, then they might convict based on the victims demeanor in court, her prior statement to police that she was strangled by the defendant, photos of the injuries which look like fingermarks on her neck, and the fact that no one else had the opportunity to do commit the crime except the defendant. They also may not. None of this is ever as clear cut as anyone tries to make it.
@RapPhilosophy
@RapPhilosophy Жыл бұрын
@@Luckcat16 that’s interesting info. Thank you. But I must say It’s a bit scary to think all it takes to convict someone is a good story even if there is some reasonable doubt or holes in the testimonies.
@SkyJustDontCare
@SkyJustDontCare Жыл бұрын
Honestly Tory Lanez was a clown the moment he pulled up on Dax for the diss track he made. If he think that made him look hard and tough, it was the opposite in fact. Doing that just made him look weak and insecure. Like that one diss got to him so bad that he had to run up on someone and make him apologize for releasing the diss track. That diss track didn’t diss his dead homies, relatives, mental health, none of that, and he still pulled up on him for releasing a diss track. I’ve never been on Tory’s side for this whole Megan situation either. Tory just a clown.
@LucarioDXAuraStorm
@LucarioDXAuraStorm Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the people that were neutral or turned neutral later on before the trial happened. ✌🏿
@ultramatum
@ultramatum Жыл бұрын
I usually don't see the anti women agenda but I think this situation single handedly showed me it
@fernsilverman
@fernsilverman Жыл бұрын
Well reasoned and thoughtful analysis. Thank you.
@pnd-uc8bt
@pnd-uc8bt Жыл бұрын
It is nice to see a channel I follow actually not bash Meg and call her liar and saying she should be locked up…
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