Tosh Destroys The Pendant | Greeks Bearing Gifts | Torchwood

[@TheTardisDreamer]

The start of this scene always makes me wish there was more of a Tosh/Gwen friendship. We know they care about each other but we rarely got to see the two them spend time together which is a shame. For starters they're the two central women of the show so you want them to interact like women do. But also the two are very much opposites in many ways and that could've made for an interesting dynamic and a great bond. Like for instance Tosh is reserved, sweet and feels constantly invisible. Her biggest weakness is that she lets other people push her around and undermine her. She is brilliant though in calm, logical reasoning. Gwen is the opposite. She speaks her mind and is outgoing. Her biggest problem is when she lets her emotions get the better of her judgement. So Gwen could've bolstered Tosh's self esteem and made her be more proactive in her personal life. And Tosh could've told Gwen when she needed to take a breather. Gah, I'm so sad it never happened 😞

[@darklyresplendentone]

Yes, so well said... I couldn't agree more. 👩🏻‍💻🙋🏻‍♀️💯

[@baders087]

I liked the way they worked together in Adrift, even if it was only a few scenes in that episode

[@CrovBomb]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The soundtrack on this show is an absolute masterpiece.

[@spiderbatwho8309]

Oh boy yeah

[@AlexFiliUK]

Agreed

[@melyn278]

What’s this piece called? I don’t remember off the top of my head

[@CrovBomb]

@@melyn278 it's a simpler version of The end is where we start from

[@redhippopotamus9144]

Except for that random power chord.

[@badgercdlyons]

That smile Jack had when Tosh said it may be the most powerful piece of technology they'd ever found just screams that he was thinking, "I've got half a dozen more powerful things than that in my desk, silly human ancestor."

[@harryhill783]

The little scenes like this made Torchwood for me. Cardiff Bay at night, beautifully shot, great characters, lovely music. The whole feel of scenes in the show like this one were great!

[@hollypalmer4547]

Such a lovely scene between Jack and Tosh xx

[@kamakazeyt]

I think Torchwood Season 1 and 2 are more appreciated is because the entire team felt more like friends rather than coworkers who recently met and are working together. Just killing 2 of them messed up that friendship relationship severely because everyone worked together masterfully and connected due to their personalities being more compatible.

[@AlexFiliUK]

I miss Tosh so much. Just got back from Miracle Day Returns in Heathrow. One of the best cons I've ever been to!

[@SteveInScotland]

I wanted more Tosh, heck I want more Torchwood. Is there even a glimmer of hope now the BBC is at least posting these clips?! I miss a more adult version of sci-fi. I love Doctor Who and always will but.....that doesn’t mean there’s not room for other things too. Are they scared it will steal viewers from Who, when in fact it will drive more there?! Hope they can find a way to bring it back, ideally as an episodic format rather than specials.

[@SteveInScotland]

And now Jack is back in Doctor Who.....who knows if Torchwood will comeback......I can only hope so!

[@causti9744]

It most likely wont since big finish still makes audio books and the characters are all killed off. And if they continue from miracle day i'm gonna cry because that shit is not canon for me!

[@Scottlp2]

Thanks for posting. 1st two seasons were my favorite.

[@eltsky7570]

Tosh deserved better!!!

[@LightLife4]

At least Jack and Gwen genuinely cared about her, Owen just acted like he couldn't care less which is worse

[@rtaylor7384]

@@LightLife4 I never liked Owen really in series 1 but in series 2 I thought he was much better in. I was just starting to like him and then they killed him off 2 times. 😂

[@LightLife4]

@rtaylor7384 it was probably getting killed, then subsequently resurrected, which forced him to reflect on his own person

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

Tosh and others might not be able to read his mind becuz of either what he is or the fact he's regenerated ((not in the time lord sort of sense but rather healing)) so many times his body has become more sophisticated making him immune to stuff like that, this would also explain his transformation into The Face Of Boe

[@FurryWulfz]

As a time agent from the future, also very possible he's had training to prevent intrusions into his mind as in he's consciously able to prevent people getting in. The way the Doctor/Doctor Who describes his condition and the way Torchwood shows/does is kinda inconsistent. The Doctor describes it (fixed point in time) is as Rose seeing every iteration that he died in and bringing him back to life. Like he died, she brought him back to life, he died again in the future after that so she brought him back then and so on and so on. He can't die because it's literally impossible. Whereas Torchwood implies its more immortality / he has amazing healing properties (particularly in Miracle Day) or something.

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

@@FurryWulfz Wait so Rose was just simply reaching out into Jack's future and seeing every time he dies and just resurrecting him?

[@FurryWulfz]

@@jareththegoblinking3191 I think so essentially, she had view over everything in the past/present/future after she looked into/absorbed the time vortex.

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

@@FurryWulfz Ok, for a while i was baffled by how it was all possible and it didnt occur to me Rose saw his future and made some changes

[@GoogleUser-dwcy]

@@FurryWulfz I thought it could be that the energy from the heart of the TARDIS kept Jack alive because Rose as the Bad Wolf Entity resurrected him forever, using said energy. Whenever Jack dies, he revives again because the energy is, idk, "programmed" to make sure that Jack lives. As the TARDIS gets her energy from the time vortex (I think), time itself keeps Jack alive.

[@hendrickhendrick7034]

3:17 Jack saying "they're are some things you aren't suppose to know" which I actually semi agree with Jack but at the same time disagree with him. This episode was very interesting and had quite a few hints in clues. Yes Mary was a prisoner and was exciled and her mission was to find the teleporter, But at the end of the day. Tosh found love for the first time and Mary could see that. Their love was sincere. Tosh loved Mary and visa versa, Mary also taught Tosh a valuable lesson. To see and think how the torchwood team really think of her as the outter. The mental health stages that Tosh had to overcome once she knew about the betrayal of her team. This wasn't some kind of advantage of Mary to take control. But to teach Tosh some strength and independence, standing up for herself instead of being quiet. That she works day and night and that Tosh is dedicated to do her job Yes, the necklace had downfalls with breaching people's privacy, but at the same time, it had benefits. Whether saving another person's life or how other people would really think of you even if it's a so called "friend" I mean I would love that power if it was possible on this earth. This episode was so unique and I sincerely believe Mary was going to take Tosh at the end to be with her and I believe for a split second. Tosh had the same agenda

[@bananatiergod]

The problem is that honest love doesn't mean it's not toxic. Mary manipulated Tosh when she was at a vulnerable place and used it to her advantage, leaving her a broken mess she can mold into a spy for her inside Torchwood if it means she can get to the teleporter faster. Even if she did have a bit of genuine care for her, Mary only saw Tosh as a tool for her selfish needs and that's pretty much it.

[@ceinwencooke2603]

I suppose in a way he is dead

[@archiebrew8184]

I think he is the complete opposite

[@ceinwencooke2603]

@@archiebrew8184 but hes dead, but just come back to life, but maybe only physically. Hes alive, but not really

[@sophie3869]

Yeah he’s the fixed point before he died. But somehow he still ages?🤨hmmm. I’m not sure but something gives me the impression that they didn’t think his immortality through

[@blingsing5383]

@@sophie3869 my head canon is that he is like a charged battery every time he dies he drains just a little bit ties in with how face of boe dies and explains the real actor aging as the show goes on There is a throwaway line where he mentions aging to the doctor and mentions finding a grey hair just before his face of boe reveal

[@thehantavirus]

@@ceinwencooke2603 much like owen, hes undead, but sorta of not.

[@LightLife4]

As much as I feel for Tosh what she did was an invasion of privacy. As for Gwen and Owen they both somehow get of scot free after their affair's exposed.