Total Sailboat Refit (Osmosis treatment, teak deck removal, planning) Part 1 - Sailing Ep198

[@followtheboat]

Do you have any questions? Put them in the comments and we'll try to answer as many as possible in Part 3. Please like and subscribe, it really helps us. 🙏

[@noconsent7403]

How long can you have the boat in Thailand when you do a refit? Normally you can only have a foreign flag for maximum 6 month?

[@followtheboat]

NO COMMENT - You are correct, six months is the maximum stay for a sailboat. But it's easy to extend this for a further four months. During the refit, the boat yard supplied us with a letter explaining Esper was having repairs done in Thailand and was not able to leave. As for us, we had to leave and come back every three months as per our visas. Liz

[@liongod1000]

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[@sailorama]

Dang! The workers in Thailand are geniuses and wizards. Thank you for documenting. I wish we had their help now.

[@phygital1]

I got hooked on FTB with the Esper Refit series. I learned so much that when I actually decided to buy my first boat I was very knowledgeable at the survey. It would be great to have a “post refit” tour of Esper to see how the various areas have held up, from wood work, deck, fittings (leaks), stainless, paint, etc. You are a wonderful couple who take us on 20 minute weekly vacations to areas of the world many of us will never see with our own eyes, and we thank you immensely.

[@followtheboat]

You probably knew a lot more than we did when we started out! Thanks for the kind words and enjoy that boat! Liz 🙏⛵👍

[@mikepaton3614]

5 years ago!! My my times flies. Loved watching every refurb vlog, you guys are amazing.

[@followtheboat]

I know, we can't believe it either! Liz 😄

[@jibsoling1866]

Ohhh it brought back memories. I think it was the first time I run into your channel, when they broke up the interior. Destroying an Oyster !!! I thought this will be the end of your boat. Ever since I am a great fan of your channel and think the team you both build to bring your boat back to that level is a great example of respecting cultural differences and friendship. If I recall well even some of the old team came back years later to help you build your dogger. How great is that. Big thumbs up for you channel!

[@followtheboat]

Yes! Ton and Tui came to build the Dodger, along with Lek to do the stainless. Fantastic bunch of people, many laughs had. 🙏😁 Liz

[@nicholaslee3798]

Hi Jamie and Liz, Young Nick here who came to meet you in Krabi Boat Lagoon I think it was... When I saw the video I thought oh no more work but then realised that you are recapping! I was going to say when I walked past Esper she looked a million dollars and nothing much needed to be done! Hopefully one day after I finish high school (in 18 months) I can come for a sail with you guys. Cheers, Young Nick

[@followtheboat]

Young Nicholas! Great to hear from you. Yep, the refit has held up well, despite the usual wear and tear one would expect. Hope the studies are going well. Fair winds to you and your family ✌️⛵

[@robertcolvin3182]

Wow. 5 years... where has time gone. I remember your videos from that year and am reminded how interesting it was to follow along. I love the sailing adventures but for some reason, the refitting portions remain among the best. It was great to be reminded again of those days. Thanks for the memories and good luck going forward as we come out of isolation. Proud to be a Patreon.

[@followtheboat]

Thank you, Robert. We're so pleased you enjoyed the refit and we're grateful of your support too. We had fun going back through this for the retrospective. It was a lot of clips! And yes, we got a perverse sense of satisfaction with the refit process. Peace and fair winds to you.

[@svbarryduckworth628]

Excellent! Can't wait for the rest of the series. I would especially like to know if you regret going with teak again in the cockpit. We have teak on our cockpit benches, but they are solid 1-piece panel sections that hinge up for lazarette access or panels raised 1cm off of the fiberglass on spacers to allow water to run under and away to the scuppers. Pretty, but they are very hot and the last owner coated them with VERY slippery polyurethane coating that doesn't breathe so every crack or chip where it failed is causing water to get in that can't dry and is rotting it away. The cockpit sole is similar and is a big hatch that is access to the engine below. I fiberglassed over this big panel and now it is perfect and MUCH cooler. Eventually I will kiwigrip this for even better nonskid. So, wondering if Ii should try and strip, repair and use a teak coating that is more breathable, and less slippery, or just coat everything in a couple of layers of biax and epoxy before painting over. Shame to bury beautiful teak panels. I have a love-hate relationship with teak. I love it in other people's boats...hate it on mine.

[@followtheboat]

Hehe, we feel the same way about teak, James. We cover off the cockpit teak in the next episode. Because it's under cover it doesn't get too hot, which was always our main concern.

[@bayanicustodio3998]

Those were the videos that originally got me hooked on watching your channel 👍🙂

[@followtheboat]

Glad to see you're still with us, Bayani, and hope you enjoy this little retrospective.

[@mikepaton3614]

It's because of Jamie and Liz I decided to take my keel boat RYA training course. They got me hooked on sailing, especially when they were in Thailand. I wish them well and hope thier future sailing plans still are a go once lockdown is over.

[@bryanwatt9751]

Wow, some talented guys and girls at PSS!

[@pnwesty7174]

I can't imagine how much time this took to edit this 3-part together. Thanks for this. I've skipped around in your refit videos, but it's a huge playlist. Cheers!

[@followtheboat]

Hey Shawn. Yep, it was one huge project to go through but we genuinely thought a retrospective might make it easier for people to digest. I think the third episode might break the 30 minute mark though! Hope you're doing well ✌️⛵

[@bluedog1052]

Awesome, it's great to look back. Think I might have to watch all those episodes again.

[@followtheboat]

Go for it, Nick. We'd be interested to know which was your favourite part of the refit.

[@Cameron-ur2tk]

What your welder did for welding the back swim step stainless steel is called back purging or purging. He uses the same shielding gas (argon) as what he uses for welding (tig most likely) for purging the pipe. What this does is it keeps the stainless steel from oxidizing (rusting) and essentially ensures the stainless stays stainless from the inside out. If you dont purge the pipe your stainless will rust and corrode. Purging is good practice for stainless when you can.

[@followtheboat]

That's reassuring and good to know. He's a good man. Thank you! Liz

[@simonw2750]

Hugely, hugely useful big picture and detail, terrific, thanks guys. By far the best sailing channel on You Tube and my favourite channel of any type.

[@followtheboat]

Aww, so kind of you! We have two more catch-ups to go, so hopefully that will keep you entertained. 😁 Liz

[@danielwardin1203]

However technical or arcane the subject matter, you always have a strong narrative with or without accompanying visuals. I saw the entire refit but look forward to watching the reprise. Thanks guys.

[@followtheboat]

Narrative is key to keep my interest in anything on KZbin, so we always try to work find the narrative when we edit. Cheers! Liz

[@michaeltillman1147]

Love the "channel". Wonderful "look back" episode. I adore the outtakes. And I try to comment on as many episodes as I can because I understand it helps you guys a bit showing interaction with viewers. Sometimes it's just an emoji, so I hope it helps. 😎

[@followtheboat]

Cheers, Michael, appreciate the feedback. Hope you enjoy our little 'look-back' series 👍

[@music-man]

What amazing work they did id say you got a cracking deal and a great team. I have seen other videos of a yacht that was trying to get a Arch and Bimini made by a boatyard and they screwed it up so many times and the cost was crazy. They was so disheartened they paid them and did it themselves. That was in the US.

[@followtheboat]

Yes, those yard workers are brilliant, we'd recommend PSS anytime. Liz 👍

[@davandstudios]

I remember those guys! Wow, I been following your channel for awhile

[@followtheboat]

Haha! And you leave us lots of comments. Thank you! Liz x 🙏

[@paulhudson4481]

Awesome video guys! it’s nice to see team work across the project from everybody

[@followtheboat]

We had a good team and made many friends while we were there. Thanks for the nice comment. 🙏 Liz

[@richardriehle4159]

wow ! i'd never dream there would be sooo much fiberglass work !

[@jaquigreenlees]

Esper is a fiberglass boat, any refit will have massive amount of fiberglass work.

[@followtheboat]

Hey Richard. Yep, Jaqui is quite right, there's a lot of fibreglass work required, especially when peeling the hull back. Wait till you see the work inside the boat, there's a much wood work as fibreglass outside!

[@p.d.smithjr.3277]

Love the new drawing graphic. I believe it’s new, I only remember seeing it the last couple of vlogs.

[@followtheboat]

Yep, it's good fun but a lot of work so we might give it a rest after this retrospective!

[@michaeldouglas6872]

Can't believe I am watching this recap version of your refit that I had watched a while back..the original episodes, but obviously it was so enjoyable and informative the last time you documented it all, so worth watching over again!!

[@iangordicans8763]

I remember watching with great interest the re-fit series of videos. I didn't realise it was that long ago ... how time flies, scary. Good to see these again in this format, excellent idea

[@followtheboat]

Cheers! Liz x

[@SVImpavidus]

We remember watching all the work you had done at PSS. Some real craftsmen and women there. Have you seen Tony and Pat since you were there? We lost touch with them a few years ago. Sail Safe guys. Ant & Cid.

[@followtheboat]

Hey guys. Full Flight are in your neck of the woods now! They shipped their boat back to the Med and are now in Greece. Hope you guys are doing well. You must be enjoying some decent weather now!

[@toms4123]

I watched the series then but found this also very well put together and enjoyed it very much. Great graphics.

[@followtheboat]

Cheers, Tom. I think you'll find this easier to digest than the original 52 episodes!

[@toms4123]

Sailing followtheboat Well, your original series of 52 were devoured by me at the time and started my current refurbishment project (2 years into it)

[@islandmikes-sailingandtrad8473]

Wow You folks never cease to amaze. The ammount of work was staggering along with the emotional toll. Great organizing skills as you pointed out were key...very fine job. Great yard and great people

[@followtheboat]

Yes, the planning ran away on occasion, but we were on site and in control all the way through, both are essential for success. Cheers! Liz

[@jimanderson2518]

Hi FTB ....fantastic video. I have a very very important question ,that I believe we all have ......how much did it cost for the Valium and tranquilizers...?. 😁😂 . The emotional toll .... would have been very intense. Well done looking forward to the rest of the videos. Also glad you lasted through it .... We are also in waiting with this CCP virus to end,so we can move forward with our cruising dreams. Fairwinds from the @captains.chair

[@followtheboat]

Hey Jim. We'll cover off the costs of tranquillisers in the third episode but we mainly used beer and Thai rum, which is easier to source 😉

[@johnmikel5934]

Details, details, fun great video, generous, educational, your experience shows 😀 love your channel.

[@followtheboat]

Refits aren't everyone's cup of tea, so we've tried to keep up the pace while imparting information. Liz 🙏

[@JonMadsen70]

I've watched your refit series 3 times now. I am enjoying this revisit of it. :)

[@followtheboat]

It's certainly a lot easier to digest, Jon!

[@nobody46820]

🙂👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Liz, still lovin' that necklace!

[@followtheboat]

Always carries a bit of style our Liz 😁

[@vicjac40]

You guys are awesome!!! So glad I found your channel. 💪🏼

[@mentonish]

You were good commercial managers, win win situation always works

[@followtheboat]

Cheers, John. Wait till you see how Liz deals with the paint team in Part Two. A great lesson in diplomacy 😉

[@catherinehackett7722]

This is marvelous! Thanks for the summary.

[@followtheboat]

Glad you enjoyed it! Liz 🙏

[@michalslavik6124]

Great report :-) I really like the way you present everything. Wish you all the best. Regards from the Czech rep.

[@louisblock1006]

the gas on the inside call , backing gas it aloud you to have an nice strong welding inside the pipe, just like outside

[@janereynolds7555]

Very interesting. Thank you.

[@followtheboat]

👍👍👍

[@saltybuster946]

Dear Jamie and Liz, Great to see you got a mention in Tom Cunliffe's latest vlog, a fine endorsement. Buster

[@followtheboat]

He's a legend. Liz 😁❤️

[@SMSabriIsmail]

That kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5mbiIloZcp5kKs was an interesting video about Cutters (old and news) by Tom Cunliffe. Particularly interesting for me after binging on Sampson Boat Co videos on rebuildiing Tally Ho, a Bristol Pilot Cutter. Thanks.

[@michaeldouglas6872]

Can you just imagine or guess what the total cost of the hull reconditioning , materials and labour would have been in a UK yard or European Yard compared to the approx £6K that you paid there in Southern Thailand for what amounted to over 5 months of work on the hull..

[@doyoueatrocks]

Wow, I was just viewing your refit videos and the blog just yesterday 😅. Very helpful.

[@followtheboat]

There's nothing more important in entertainment than... Timing. Liz

[@bryanwatt9751]

Oh my... that's yacht carnage!

[@followtheboat]

Yep. She'd been through a lot by the time we reached Langkawi! Liz

[@oceanic43]

If you guys ever have a port of call in Fort Lauderdale,Florida lets have a beer,I love watching your program!

[@followtheboat]

Cheers, Tony. We'd love to! 🍺⛵

[@Bradley_Clark]

This should be a great series!! Though I had to covert Pound Sterling to USD via Google haha. Maybe this will come up in the subsequent episodes,or was spoken to in the older episodes, how did you decide refit was better than purchasing another vessel? Thumbed

[@followtheboat]

Ahoy! This is the very first thing we discuss in the video 😉

[@Bradley_Clark]

@@followtheboat yikes!!! I'll have to work on my listening skills lol. My wife says I have the same problem with her habaaa Thanks!!

[@FeelItRising]

Recent sub to your channel. Had no idea so much work was put into Esper. Time to go back and binge.

[@followtheboat]

Welcome aboard! You have hours (days?) of viewing ahead of you if you're going to tackle or video diary of the re-build. Good luck! 😁👍 Liz

[@peterstarkey1360]

Seems like you done really well...Top Stuff...cheers

[@followtheboat]

Thank you, Peter 👍

[@trevhedges]

Thanks guys!

[@followtheboat]

Pleasure!

[@Mark_Lacey]

How did you ensure your stainless was supplied 316 and not 304?

[@followtheboat]

You can specify either but we're in a yard that deals with boats that knows that 316 will be in demand.

[@svdoinitright7519]

My question is, if you had it to do again, would you chose the same part of the world to do the work. It's been a long time (I watched the series as it happened), but I recall you having a lot of problems over that year as well. Some language related, some with work not being done as you expected, etc. I the end, Esper came out fantastic and you forged some very good friendships, but would you do it differently now?

[@jaquigreenlees]

I would myself get work done at PSS. The massive cost savings and knowing the delays from cultural differences going in you can account for that in your planning. ( tell them every delay from agreed completion date is 10% off total price ~wink~ )

[@followtheboat]

We'll cover this topic off in the third episode. I wouldn't say we had a lot of problems ourselves, only an incident with the paint team which we discuss in the second part. Jaqui just about sums this up correctly though.

[@jaquigreenlees]

Whew! I was flipping out thinking you were starting another refit. This look at the refit in a job by job rather than chronological order might clarify it a fair bit. On looking for the boatyard to get the work done, do you think it is important to insure that you can find accommodation and living supplies nearby? I know locally the best price for haul outs is a bit out of the way as far as living quarters and provisions. There is only 1 that you would find problems getting all work done locally, so the full service aspect is well covered. The big different is the yards only provide the haul out and space, there are multiple companies that provide the services already on site, or you can bring in an "outside contractor" as long as they will sign the agreement with the yard. That agreement being no polluting the environment and clean up the area daily.

[@followtheboat]

Excellent question, Jaqui, because last night my mum said 'I hope you're going to cover off accommodation because people will want to know about that"! We will discuss this in the third episode and yes, it's of paramount importance when you can't live on the boat. It also adds to the overall cost.

[@daedster1]

Awesome revisit guys! loved it..........

[@followtheboat]

Great! Anything you'd like us to cover in Part three? Liz

[@daedster1]

@@followtheboat All of it! Ol boat builder here see, loves ur build from way back - oh, and the banter between you two :-)

[@robertkowalski9906]

I had a solar panel rack and davit for my dink made in St Maarten basically 3, 1.25" tubes 6 bends a few welds $4900 dollars. The only better deal you guys could get would have to be gotten with a gun!

[@followtheboat]

Jeees, that's a lot of money! I seem to remember paying similar prices in Turkey for stainless work.

[@collingtech1]

yep, aweome ep as always , keep the gtood works and stay safe

[@followtheboat]

Thank you! Liz

[@islandmikes-sailingandtrad8473]

Really clear narrative Well scripted Ps we just purchased folding bikes after watching jamie toodeling to town Man I'm exhausted just watching

[@followtheboat]

Haha! Enjoy those bikes. 😁 Liz

[@markbailey6051]

My thought is if the blisters are not leaking thru and threatening to sink the boat and dose not slow you down. I paint as normal.

[@jaquigreenlees]

For a normal haul out, yup. For a full refit haul out? nope, that is the haul out where you fix every issue. When you are getting blisters in the composite hull, you are in need of a full refit fairly soon.

[@followtheboat]

Hi Mark. In our situation the blisters were leaking but I'd also agree with Jaqui. This was the time to deal with the osmosis once and for all, otherwise you'll just be playing a game of catch up every time you haul.

[@markwentland3147]

Thx for sharing this you guys !! i am removing my teak deck as we speak, my boat has blisters also !! thx

[@followtheboat]

Good luck with that! Where are you? Liz

[@markwentland3147]

Hi Liz !! I'm down in Louisiana near New Orleans, on the Gulf of Mexico, I bought this boat down here in an auction but it needs work and I'm going to do most of it so it will be a project for sure

[@billhanna8838]

Great info thanks

[@followtheboat]

Cheers! We hope this three-part condensed series will tell the story of each job from beginning to end in a easily digestible form. Liz

[@sass1ap]

And here I thought the refurb and refit I'm doing to my little 16 foot sailboat was involved LOL

[@followtheboat]

It's all relative, I suppose! Interested to know what you getting done to yours...

[@sass1ap]

@@followtheboat I replaced the transom that was completely rotted away, and have been doing A LOT of fiberglass work and sanding. Very soon Im actually going to cut a hole in the bulkhead, so I can use the empty space in the bow for storage. I haven't made a video in a while, if I do I shall let you know ;)

[@bryanwatt9751]

Where did you haul out in the Maldives?

[@followtheboat]

Hi Bryan. I think the island was called Tilafushi, also known as Rubbish Island. It's to the west of Male. Great facilities.

[@Chabink]

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

[@followtheboat]

You are very welcome! Liz

[@DStrayCat69]

Excellent stuff :-) Did you or did you consider Copper Coat?

[@followtheboat]

Yes, we'd love to put it on but it was outside our budget at the time. There's a distributor in Thailand but I'm not sure how easy it is to source in Malaysia.

[@georgecumming760]

On a slight tangent, does a steel hull provide more or less headaches where headaches = time + money? Also is Lamkawi the best place to buy a value for money boat?

[@followtheboat]

We don't have a steel hull, so difficult to say. From what we've learned by watching and taking to others of steel hulls, they bring a while load of other problems to solve! Liz 😉

[@georgecumming760]

@@followtheboat Thanks Liz.

[@georgecumming760]

@@followtheboat I have a limited budget so need to get a good deal. I know you guys have spent time in Lankawi so is it a good place for a $30k budget? Some people say Panama, Turkey or NZ?

[@darrenj3267]

so the stainless was a 'steel' ? sorry, I'll go sit in a corner :)

[@followtheboat]

And after sitting in the corner you can get your coat, Darren 😉

[@donnakawana]

I'm new sub I find u both to be so amazing. It's even more watching the story an the kind talented beyond amazing people who added to the beauty of it all. Craftsmanship beyond just really awe inspiring levels!!! I've worked on old sailboats, ships,an tugs I'm trying to get to sea stuck on the hard. But so very inspired to never give up. Thanks for sharing your life with us. Fare winds an following sea's an always a fish on ur hook...❤😊⛵🌴🌞🍷❗

[@followtheboat]

Cheers, Donna. Hope you get your vessel in the water soon. Peace and fair winds ✌️⛵

[@whitneyh4087]

Great job 👍 thank you so much ♥️

[@followtheboat]

You're welcome. Anything you'd like us to cover in Part three? Liz

[@whitneyh4087]

@@followtheboat We are really looking forward to a recap of the wiring and electronics details when you pulled the masts. Hubby is particularly interested in your mast's furler, motor, and controls. Ours probably should come down for full service, too. Side Note - Hubby followed Liz's example of a rolling hitch on the anchor snubber and is very grateful for that tip. (Do you encounter sailors who improperly, and potentially dangerously, rig their ground tackle? It seems exceedingly common where we are.) ♥️

[@mmanut]

CRAFTSMANSHIP IS TO NOTCH‼️‼️👍👍⛵️⛵️. Vinny 🇺🇸

[@followtheboat]

We're pretty pleased with the work they did. Cheers! Liz

[@simonw2750]

I have even felt compelled to open my wallet, which I located by the moths hovering in the general area above it, and join your FTB Mates thing.

[@followtheboat]

Wow! Thank you, look forward to catching up on FTBMates. 🙏 Liz

[@benjaminchong82]

hi are you guys still in langkawi, malaysia?

[@followtheboat]

Still in Malaysia, but we've been in Kota Kinabalu since the lockdown. Liz

[@robcomerford3172]

Hi guys, have thought about trying DE powder with Millie?

[@followtheboat]

I'm not sure what DE Powder is... Millie's receiving excellent veterinary care here in KK, so let's keep everything crossed for the best. Liz

[@robcomerford3172]

@@followtheboat diatomaceous.org/diatomaceous-earth-for-pets-and-animals/

[@cavit115]

love you guys

[@followtheboat]

Awww, love you too! Thanks for all the comments. Liz x

[@thesailingkiwi]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@followtheboat]

🙏👍🙏👍🙏👍🙏

[@neemguy81]

So what was that post about you guys buying a superyacht? Was it satire, or serious? I couldn't tell from the short blurb. EDIT: or did you get hacked?

[@Zeb1432]

Click bait..!!!( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@followtheboat]

Hehe, not even clickbait since there was nothing to click on! Yes, it was us being silly. One of the problems with Facebook is that there isn't a 'sarcasm' emoji. Sorry about that 😁

[@neemguy81]

@@followtheboat Phew! Close one XD

[@Zeb1432]

@@followtheboat I was smiling when I red it !!! ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@c1d2e]

What a nightmare, a refit will seriously make you rethink owning a boat?

[@followtheboat]

Compartmentalise! It's the only way of dealing with this monumental project 😉

[@latitudeash]

Holly f@3k ....4K. Quick run don’t look back just in case they made a mistake and want 14k

[@ratusbagus]

Help Brickhouse. They have Covit in South Africa. Patrick Childress is critical Rebecca is ill quarantined aboard. They need big hospital money. Goto Brickhouse website for storey and go fund me. I'm putting this comment on all the sailing channels I know.

[@ratusbagus]

Sorry for abusing your channel guys. But P&R need serious help from as many as possible.

[@followtheboat]

We've posted a link to the GoFundMe account (standing at $42,000) across our social media and have donated. Patrick is on the critical list. Here's the link: gf.me/u/x38ccy

[@craigme2583]

Five years? Seems like last week? Good to see you in good spirits. Stay safe. . I cant say fare winds cos you arnt using the wind, but may your toilet paper not run out and your masks keep out the little nasties ...

[@followtheboat]

Hehe, cheers, Craig. Yes, it still feels like yesterday for us too but our spirits stay the same 😁

[@mrpanrucker3754]

Another great Vlog! Patrick Childress and his wife have COVID 19 and Patrick is in a very bad way in hospital so please give your support on their Gofundme page? Thank you...

[@darosa5741]

Oh my! So sad. :(

[@followtheboat]

We have donated and shared the link everywhere we can think of. Last time I looked they have a good sun towards hospital costs. I can't believe their health insurance company have refused to pay out. Rebecca's video made me sob. Liz

[@scalleewagg9746]

6:07 boat called ISIS lmao how unfortunate

[@followtheboat]

I wonder how their journey was going through the Gulf of Aden 😮

[@scalleewagg9746]

@@followtheboat not too choppy I hope 😬