TOUGE Battle AMG A45 vs.SUBARU / Hot-Version 2017

[@powerfultoa7]

Thanks for the english subs!

[@cliffcurry5264]

Right it's a life changer

[@novan3]

It's software

[@美味しい低脂肪乳]

サブちゃ～ん、SABUちゃ～ん、

[@junkazama6189]

best car show ever! its all about the car’s performance. western car reviews would talk about the interior and how nice the apple car play is for hours. meanwhile, these guys would be like, touge battle!

[@AnthroGearhead]

Dont forget, pointless drag race

[@KIM-nc7ti]

You are not gonna race everyday though

[@अण्वायुवरीवर्त]

@@AnthroGearhead depends, Drag racing involves tremendous engineering as well

[@Musa812]

Which car reviews you watch? Must be a shit one

[@Wzrd8]

@@KIM-nc7ti Just who the hell do you think I am?

[@bokidusanic7084]

Japanese people are honest and professional, even though their own country's car has lost to the german they proceeded to showcase that, to the finest detail. Love this show and the people!

[@AnthroGearhead]

The WRX is a joke now, cant even outrun a Camry or Accord

[@imtheonehero9305]

@@AnthroGearhead that was a wrx sti type s, not a wrx. lol. but yes, wrx sucks

[@imtheonehero9305]

@@sonofdemigod you should shut up instead. an accord 2.0t would smack a wrx.

[@KevAlberta]

Thank you to whoever captions the English subtitles. I am forever grateful

[@cj9318]

they have a special place in heaven

[@floww2953]

Please never stop doing English subs, I love whoever's doing them

[@cowboybebop521]

its funny how Tsuchiya gave both 97's. He knew the mercedes would win, but his heart was with the wrx

[@ryanshannon7703]

I would say that he took into consideration both Taniguchi's and Orido's arguments. He agreed the tire choice from the factory for the A45 was not as effective as the STi, but he also considered the performance they both gave, as well as the quality and characteristics of the cars. If you watch Orido's scoring he says the STi out-scored the A45 mostly because it's excellent bang for buck. You get 6 pots up front and supremely designed suspension and chassis along with a good tire choice from the factory, while the A45 was an overall more accommodating vehicle, with performance to match, but costs 3 million yen more, which isn't chump change. Tsuchiya basically said performance wise they're basically identical, but it just depends how much you want to spend and what you expect out of the car. You can either say the STi is better because it's nearly as performant as the A45 for 3 million yen less (nearly 30k USD) or you can say the A45 is the more complete package because you get the performance of a STi (which is an excellent bar to set for yourself) but you still maintain the luxury fittings and ride quality. The A45 they just released here in the U.S.A. could arguably have another leg up due to the A series Mercs having the newer MBUX system, which is one of the most advanced vehicle management/interactive systems in production, which pushes the technology gap between the two even further. But, you're going to pay some $$$$ for that tech. Overall, I'd say this is the most balanced race I've seen in this series aside from the Amuse S2k and the other one (I forgot the tuner's name, but it was several years back. An absolute epic battle that I think remains unresolved to this day).

[@wdtylerchee7269]

@@ryanshannon7703 the FEED Fujita Engineering FD3S?

[@i976scirocco3]

Love the Hot Version Best Motoring ! Takes me back to the late 90s early 00s when we couldn't wait to get a new dvd release from these guys. DK, MAXX , Nob but where is Kazumi chan??????? Thank you for uploading this w/ english subtitles.

[@Crespocar]

Thanks for English subtitles, I’m sad and nostalgic seeing how European cars are taking huge advantage against JDM, I mean have you seen rs3, new a45amg or m2 ? I’m Waiting for a new powerful Subaru

[@VolvosandHondas]

i wouldnt hold my breath. subaru makes too much money doing other things anymore.

[@HR15DE]

this wrx almost 30000 usd cheaper lol. very impressive for japanese cars to me

[@nakoma5]

Japanese car focus has turned towards other, profitable interests than sports cars anymore. Not the fun and daring carmakers they used to be.

[@realtyronne9916]

Subaru S209

[@tyhyhh]

Comparing cars in a different price bracket lol

[@Krezo200]

Thank you for another video with subtitles 😍

[@amg4665]

AMGは凄いですよ。私は旧型の後期モデルのCLA45AMGに乗ってますが381馬力は半端ない。前に乗ってたランエボより断然速い。

[@wakuwaku_tsukutte]

私も所有してましたが、なんかこのDCTは苦手でした

[@kanamekyo8723]

ベンツって自称車好きの人達からあんま好かれてないイメージあるけど、やっぱりいい車だよね。

[@ETODAYO]

自称ってか結局人それぞれだからな その言い方はあまりよろしくないぞ

[@stuart.cripps]

Another thanks for English subs, it makes this feel like Japanese Top Gear!

[@driveintherain]

Top Gear is never this serious.. TG is an entertainment show with cars in it.

[@rainofpain2431]

@@driveintherain yeah more on fun reviews

[@のり-k7g9p]

オリダーめっちゃ頑張ってくれてる笑

[@Hellacop6]

The a45 surprised me there. Didn’t knew it could corner that good!

[@jonathanb1987]

Thanks for the english subtitles. I really enjoy hearing these guy's opinions about the STI. Apparently they also agree that the STI needs more power to stay competitive.

[@AnthroGearhead]

Doubt that, Japan car manufacturers could care less about racing nowadays

[@chrisparish4668]

Stock vs Stock off the shelf

[@JustSujC]

300 HP for a daily street car is MORE than enough. I have this car and I do not understand why anyone would need to mod this to make more unless you're racing it on the weekends.

[@JustSujC]

@@AnthroGearhead With everyone wanting "performance" SUVs it doesn't make sense to compete in the Sedan market anymore. It's a shame that the racing spirit is lost in cars nowadays. In favor of huge mommy cars with 300+ hp but no cornering ability.

[@Trades46]

I owned a WRX STI while my sister has a CLA 45 AMG. The STI is more raw, but even my late 2021 car with 310hp is not even close to the 375hp of the AMG.

[@japan3502]

12:36点数間違えてます WRX~97+97+95=289

[@佐倉守-j8g]

タイヤがイマイチでも速いんだから、A45恐るべし･･

[@msr7212]

AMG良い音だな 日本車はこういう音でないんだよねぇ

[@W333dm4n]

i must be living under a rock. i didnt know they still did these

[@mattroyce]

trust me, you are not alone

[@reyweengallemit5699]

#10 driving lesson with these pro is a must

[@Sかいさん]

WRX STI 6速マニュアルだけっていうのがいいなー かっこいいしセダンで人も乗る物も乗るし速いそれでA45より300万安いってのもすごい

[@ももすずチャンネル]

最近のAMGは凄いです！

[@本免許満喫中]

速い遅い関係なくどっちも好き

[@staka1404]

メルセデスって凄いよな～と最近改めて思う。 デザイン（特に内装）もいいなって思うし、期待を裏切らない所有者を満足させる車を作ると感じる。

[@CarboUdon]

M133エンジンのパワーほんとえげつないよ 現行のM139はもっとイカれてるし

[@supaburo]

A45ＡＭＧとＧＲやりすみてみたいな

[@いっちー-r6n]

旧A45、今でも魅力的な車です。

[@HasegawaNobutame]

9:22 Ａ４５のリアタイヤの溝が浅くなってスリップサインが出かかってる。ＦＦベースの４WＤなのでフロントタイヤはもっと減っているかもしれない。この状態でＷＲＸと互角以上の旋回性能なのだから恐ろしい。

[@abracing199]

Thank you for subtitles!

[@かこ-f1t]

今時貴重なマニュアル車だから、次の型でも絶対6速積んで欲しい。

[@kcube2548]

I agree

[@XDJawamdam]

Ja to chcę

[@lkj1486]

ニュルのSP3Tクラスで長いこと頭はってて、その運動性能やエンジンに惹かれて背伸びして24歳のときにvabオーナーになった私としては心苦しいが、さすがメルセデスだな！

[@元赤メッシュ]

ウイング無しのVABもカッコいいな👌

[@左右非対称-n2n]

車重にめちゃくちゃ差はないし向こうはDCT、そして高性能四駆にとんでもないパワー出てる高級車ということを考えればWRXが健闘している。　高くなったとは言っても庶民が頑張れば買える価格帯でここまでの性能が出ているのはさすが日本車というべき。

[@RJPhotographics]

I expected new technology to give lighter, more fun sports cars. But instead we have heavier, more powerful and bloated cars thanks to pedestrian protection laws.

[@fmi85]

respect to whoever doing the english subs! yeahhhh \m/

[@jacky5771]

日本車スポーツのいいところは外車よりパワーは低いけど車重とかの分野でやんちゃスポーツを楽しめる所が良かったのになぁ 時代や需要は仕方ないけど変わっちゃって少し悲しい

[@3mfreale]

Best car channel, thank you for tbe subtitles!

[@Technicalideas3033]

Best car show and professional drivers really appreciate if it would b in english

[@tmr-nl4mq]

エディション1持ってきて欲しかったなー 新作で新型A45期待してます

[@高橋和也-k2r]

現行A45更に速くなってそうですね😓 新型ヤリスをチューニングしたら五分じゃないでしょーか…日本のチューナーに期待です💨

[@kazutoasai2487]

ミニジョングーパーワークスも試して欲しい

[@shikoshiko-gaiji]

ドイツ車カッコいい！ 日本車も好きだけどAMGは別格。 さすが!ドイツ車へリスペクト!

[@mattroyce]

these TOUGE battles should have 10+ mill views

[@まいける-m6l]

どちらも楽しそうな車ですね。 WRXのコスパの良さ...。

[@Chan-wn5pv]

このクラスってかつて日本のお家芸だったんですけどね… A45を筆頭にアウディRS3、ゴルフR、フォーカスRSと欧州車の独壇場になりました

[@佐藤-s3l]

ランエボが消滅してライバルが無いWRXじゃ張り合いが無いのかもね ましてやWRCにも参戦してないから日本がこの分野で圧倒するのは厳しいんだろうな

[@裕一對馬]

元々、WRカーのレギュレーションが日本車潰しのルールとも言われています。そこに排ガス規制が駄目押しな上に車嫌いの益子前社長の舵取りによるランエボ終了も有ります。対する外車勢はイメージリーダーが必要と言う考え方が有るためスポーツモデルは必需品と言う考え方が有ります。但し、日本車と違い生活四駆が無いのでその分コストが上がり更にスペックが過剰になる傾向が有るので車両価格は高く手軽さは有りません。

[@entertherequiem]

@@裕一對馬 2005年くらいからのWRカー規定の変遷は本当に酷い。 量産車の工学的美点を競技に持ち込むという点において、ラリーはツーリングカーレース以上にこだわるべき本質であるのに、どんどん逆行していった。 露骨な縦置きEG潰し。 ヨーロッパ人の意地汚さを垣間見た。

[@marcelschneller1152]

You are the best! Greets from germany!

[@kingkhoda]

Thank you for the English subtitles 🍻

[@izlenimler1305]

12:36 TOTAL POINT 1- WRX STI: 97+97+95=289 2-AMG A 45: 97+95+94=286

[@マサスズ]

サムネがカッコイイ…

[@subaruwrxsti300]

I know some1 already said it but thank you for the english subtitles!

[@blackj001]

2:25 song name?

[@farhadrahimov]

I also search

[@hksp]

taniguchis daily drive is A45s

[@pzero3349]

A45て見た目大人しいけど、めっさ速いのね。最大トルク、トルクの立ち上がりも凄いな。WRXが直線で遊ばれてる感じがする。EJ20とは対照的なエンジンなんですね。

[@14mattiify]

A45をこの動画で知ったのですか？ EJなんかの比じゃないです。

[@shint2102]

@@14mattiify そりゃ300万円も高ければ比じゃないだろうね

[@久坂玄瑞-p6n]

中古は最終型のＳＴＩよりＡ４５の方が安くなってる。

[@manryong6506]

@@久坂玄瑞-p6n 最近は若い子が中古でいいくらいに値段が落ちた外車乗ってる傾向です。逆に今は日本のスポーツカーはプレミアム付いてますからねー

[@frankbk2358]

Thanks for the English subtitles

[@BadBoyNo1Bz]

現行のA45もみたいなー

[@nikanika12347]

A45Sになってしまって一気に高級車になりましたよね、買おうとしてたんですけど流石に高過ぎました笑

[@BadBoyNo1Bz]

肛門検査技師 なんとなくですが1000万以下の車両としては最高峰なのかななんて思ってましたがあんまり高くなってしまうと…って気がしますね笑

[@BadBoyNo1Bz]

佐藤s.s 206. NOBLESSEチャンネルもちょこちょこ見てますがそれは未見かもしれないです、ありがとうございます😊

[@ericyujidurandal3094]

ランエボが生産終了してから、WRXがなんか元気無くなって進化も止まった気がする。。。 I miss EVO...

[@helicocktor]

@A A it didn't suck though. It sucks now, but it didn't then.

[@belle7796]

ドイツ車の前提は高速安定性、乗員保護を基本としている車作りなのでエンジン等関係なく元々コストがかかり、重量もかさむのだと感じます。 ドイツ車を安くするとしたらオペルのように内装を変装にするしかないのです。

[@v37nissanskyline23]

日本車も安全性第一なのは同じです。でなければ欧州では戦えません。同じ安全性を出しながらも、軽量化も出来ている車があればそれもまた凄いことです。特にスバルやホンダ(両社共に定評のあったセダンの販売は辞めてしまいましたが)などの安全性は数十年前からヨーロッパではお墨付きでもあります。 価格は、アウディ車が高額なのに殆ど一緒のフォルクスワーゲンがリーズナブルというのと似ていて、大半は高級とされるメーカー及びブランドのステータスフィーかと。 メルセデスベンツに至ってはフェラーリとまでは行きませんが、F1に参戦し続けている事もあるのか高額でも収益を維持できるのも一例として考えられる気がします。

[@鈴木航平-l4y]

177より176の方が好きです！

[@philspaghet]

Interesting. In the US, we would never compare these 2 because the STI is the fun manual sports car while the A45 AMG, well that's not really popular and being auto most car guys don't even care about it but it's great seeing it get attention in this video!

[@JustSujC]

If you know how to drive manual and are proficient it's VERY difficult to want an automatic sports car. Takes away a lot of the skill and thrill of driving a sports car. Faster doesn't mean better nowadays when you're comparing 0.2 second differences in 0-60 times.

[@BigTurboTrucker]

My buddy has a 2016 CLA45 AMG, with a downpipe and a tune, it's an absolute monster that gives many V8s a run for their money, especially from a dig!

[@MFCLAAMG]

its definitely lots of fun with a larger downpipe and a remap.. :)

[@TheRZBM]

Would be interesting to see a modified WRX STI with similar power up against the A45 or any other AWD German competitors. In the UK motoring journalists have mostly written off the WRX STI as being underpowered and old fashioned compared to rivals. Subaru have given up selling it in the UK, probably due to massive popularity of German rivals here. It is well established the limits of the EJ207 so would be good to see if the chassis, drivetrain and electronics etc can compare when given a comparable amount of power. I wonder if perhaps the questionable reliability of the EJ held them back from putting more power in to it? Unfortauntely it feels that without a WRC car feeding the development the raw rally motorsports soul of it just isn't there and it can't compete in the days of sophisticated dual clutch gearboxes and electronics alongside strict emissions regulations etc. Hopefully the WRX STI doesn't go the way of the Evo but certainly seems that way, at least outside of Japan. Perhaps they are still selling well there? I hope so.

[@el-danihasbiarta1200]

yeah im totakky agree with the statement, subaru needs to go back to its home WRC. hope FIA give some chance for subaru to back

[@justinchou2033]

What cars are you referring to in that segment against the WRX? Here in the states the only other options are a Golf R (more expensive) and the Focus ST (not as good)

[@匿名希望-p2u]

GRヤリスも見てみたいです

[@Dafastso]

that intro sequence is cool af also needs more pretty girl time

[@punnyabrata]

I have lots of expectations from the FA24 engine - but Subaru needs to do is to develop a 3 to 3.5 L flat 6 engine for the STI. Something like a FA35 flat 6 would just turn the tables for the STI.

[@AnthroGearhead]

Lol that belongs to the Alcyone SVX

[@muhammadfirdauszainnalamir6259]

Added weight couldn't turn the table. That would destroy balance and reduce power to weight ratio. If power u need, More boost.

[@JustSujC]

@@muhammadfirdauszainnalamir6259 Only a true enthusiast would appreciate this fact. You don't want to mess around with the balance of this car.

[@jstllucky]

Thanks for the subs ❤️

[@さんマロン-i8u]

今のa45sだと更に敵わないのか

[@philspaghet]

3:52 AS IT SHOULD BE! Autos should never be available with lightweight sports cars!

[@initialdoge8528]

The monster is not the car. *it is the driver*

[@charlesphillips2751]

Coming here before watching im going wrx all day After watching 😳

[@hyper_channel]

Thanks for the content

[@idokwatcher2062]

0:49 that transition from Subaru to Mercedes, scary how formulaic the cars are today.

[@kristisrb]

Don't hate car manufacturers for that. They are pushed around by millions of regulations, especially regarding safety. Not that its a bad thing to care about safety but its not their fault the shapes of the cars are so similar.

[@MoskusMoskiferus1611]

Isn't most Cars at The Same Class used to be mostly looks alike since 40s

[@aregaminghd]

@@kristisrb a necessary sacrifice unfortunately

[@JustSujC]

@@kristisrb Correct, they even have to account for pedestrian safety. It's why all cars basically look the same.

[@geraldrogers9481]

Power is essential

[@onuohafamily]

Sti and a45 are different class. Sti is hot hatch awd 300hp class sports car. A45 is super hot hatch 400hp class

[@barbar3380]

Waiting on subaru to put fa series in sti. Can’t wait much longer.

[@06wrxRAR]

the sti is still a powerful car keeping it close to amg power. another 3 grand spent on bumping subaru power to 360ps would have made a world of difference.

[@imtheonehero9305]

lmao. no. sti lost by miles. if the amg had better tires, it would've outperformed the sti even more.

[@956870733]

Subaru needs to push their risk curve and do some bold and out of the boundary stuff to revive the brand. (or is it the STI that need to man-up and fight against their finance department?)

[@phongnguyen007]

In Vietnam, A45 might be cheaper than Wrx Sti.

[@hamiruto]

cla45のクーペでやって欲しいな

[@kz-tn8sb]

んー車格の差があるとはいえwrxにもうちょっと頑張ってほしかった… やっぱり70近い馬力差はきついか…

[@xxxssxz5041]

コーナーも負けてたけどね笑

[@shunya7055]

ぷそつまめたろう タイヤの差じゃないすかね

[@キリタニミレイ]

ただやっぱり300万安いは大きい。300万チューニングしたらWRXも十分勝てる。

[@shunya7055]

@@キリタニミレイ 正直パワー上げても他の性能では全部負けてる

[@jamsbong]

Both cars are fast. But both have terrible understeers at the limit. Because of the nose heavy engine in the front. Both cars have clever trick diffs to induce oversteer but that is just a show off “drift mode”. It doesn’t really improve the speed around corners. A proper cornering car has to have at least 50:50 to 40:60 Front:Rear weight distribution

[@JuanOrtiz-zz6je]

intro song?

[@maykelsach795]

That asian girl raised my adrenaline.

[@NeroKoso]

Why?

[@imtheonehero9305]

@@NeroKoso because he's straight

[@gunnerguy31]

Can we have the girl as driver, she might do insane time

[@4doors671]

The sti loses on the gear changes. It goes to show how good it performs despite it having less power

[@josedonainramireznucamendi7846]

No entiendo nada de lo que dicen, pero esta muy entretenido el canal, saludos desde america latina, mexico.

[@XDJawamdam]

Pozdrowienia z Polski Lechistan

[@おぱおぱ-d5x]

2倍も値段違う車でここまで張り合ってる時点で日本車強すぎ

[@pilosuke]

価格が2倍違う事を考慮していないコメントばかりで嫌になってきた。

[@shunya7055]

pilosuke 電子制御や乗り心地や内装の質感はちゃんと倍の価格差相応ですよ

[@kanamekyo8723]

​@@shunya7055 それな タラレバのスバ○スト(？)のコメントばかりで嫌になってきたとこでした

[@norippo]

これこれ！これが見たかったんですよ！ありがとうございますー(๑ｰㅅｰ๑)

[@maximuskhann5318]

This new imprezza, Is beautiful 😍

[@user-jt6iq6kq3j]

土屋さんが運転しないのは珍しい

[@neuroplasticity]

This. This is a true car show.

[@broccolirob5026]

My favorite show in the world ❤️

[@carfans6366]

JDM EJ20 STI😍

[@strongerandwiser2023]

Is this touge track available in assetto corsa I wonder

[@藤波恒一]

藤波恒一　今のA45は421馬力出て居るはずです!と言うことはちょっと前のモデル？！

[@crushcookey4033]

日本車がなぜ勝てないのかは、単純にパワーだけではない。優秀なだけではAMGにはとても勝てない。 やはり絶対的なバランスの良さと言うか高さにあると思う。 エンジンだけパワーがあっても、シャーシがショボいと振らついて走れないし、シャーシが良くてもエンジンにパワーがないと車は遅い。 トータルバランスの絶対的な高さの違いが走りに出てると思う。 AMGはさすがにメルセデスを知り尽くしてるだけあって、ターボの効くタイミングからシフトまでの総合的制御がとても上手いと思います。 ドライバー意のままに走る車を作れるAMGは、伊達じゃない。 高いのはちゃんと理由がある車。

[@awesomebroke]

Model is cuter every year.

[@nevenblaskovic7627]

You should take wrx sti for european market not for yours with better tires and brakes if amg had good tires it would be faster.

[@BushidoPhoto]

The STI is stock. Needs a couple of upgrades and it would be a good match. Sway bars, stage 1 tune.

[@originalgibbs1584]

I hope Subaru sees this and makes the STI faster so it’s competing with at least the C63. Not the A45

[@giratina_86]

the a45 is like 100.000€ and the sti is 50.000 its impresive

[@originalgibbs1584]

Giratina86 where I’m from the highest trim level of the Sti cost $9k more than the A45. Not a significant difference like your country

[@freezaball8056]

A45いい音するなぁ。。 見た目はSTIが好きやけど

[@kinzo7665]

演出だからね

[@jansyrovatka2579]

Great episode, just a detail - wrong sum of points for STI. 97 + 97 + 95 = 289 not 288 ;)