Touhou 3 - Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream - Lunatic 1cc - Marisa - Final Stage

Aka a run without a "broken" character.
PoDD's lunatic is often seen as the hardest in the series to 1cc... with a high-tier character.
So you can imagine how it's like without a high-tier character.
The real threat in this game are the bosses. Cancelling them out with a level 4 spell is a must strategy.
Yumemi is a beast. Whether she gets hit or not is entirely up to her, as she can dodge pretty much everything.

[@lukasi6688]

So this is how Gensokyo without spellcards is.... People nuke at each other, and Marisa with Galaxy wings.

[@occultCapra]

Just like Utsuho

[@roberthasudungan1546]

Marisa used to be villain, in case you don't know it.

[@anon4305]

Why are the only replies on a six year old comment from 2019-2020?

[@rage_laurence]

@@anon4305 Becuz y e s

[@BPKPhoenix]

Because why not? And back then, spellcards weren't nerfed. They were legitimately overpowered as literal Hell where one single danmaku round has the power to rip apart a shack. Zero restraint back then XD

[@BluBu_]

AI in fighting game: Normal AI in chess: Hard AI in Touhou phantasmagoria games:

[@theonlysinisharm]

Yumemi dodges all that but still gets hit in the head by a chair.

[@oosha2000]

Looks like she couldn't underestimate Marisa so she gave up lol

[@BlazeEmerald]

If this is what an ordinary human can do, no wonder Marisa is so proud of being an ordinary magician

[@NeiroYT]

8:29 Yumemi: *I gonna dodge that giant amount of bullets without any miss.* 9:36 Yumemi: oh, wtf was that?

[@mathr719]

Curse of every Touhou player - you can dodge insane amount of bullets, missiles and lasers, but it's allways the one random lonely bullet that hits you, and if it didn't take your last live away, the impending confusion and panic will do the rest.

[@rosymuscovy7967]

The joy of PoDD: Whether the AI gets hit or not is entirely up to them.

[@wjsnactivist6141]

She got bonked

[@abarette_]

Phantasmagoria games in a nutshell lmao

[@LordFloofTM]

PoDD lunatic AI is essentially programmed to be hit every now and then in order for it to not be invincible. I’m not sure how this goes for the other levels though

[@shoujocore]

at 8:25 she gets hit by a very clearly telegraphed laser and then seconds later dodges completely indecipherable bullet vomit

[@CoolestSwordFighter]

ywnbaw + 52%

[@TheLoveMario]

the duality of "yeah just dodge"

[@TouenTheTotallyNormalIdiot]

​@@CoolestSwordFighter google translate moment

[@mp_o_roxo]

​@@TheLoveMarioYumemi is just built different rofl

[@porygon4023]

The most "what the hell is happening" boss fight in all of Touhou.

[@puzzlepuddles6712]

It along with the constant sound effects playing can drive you insane

[@matteste]

One thing I notice is that ZUN might just have gone a bit overboard when he designed the AI for this game, sure is a starch contrast to the fighting games.

[@ZXNovaBoom]

***** ZUN didn't design the AI for the fighters. That's all Tasofro.

[@WishMakers]

+SyncTrizon That doesn't give as big of an excuse for PoFV though...the AI in that game dodge almost everything too, on Lunatic especially.

[@WishMakers]

+SyncTrizon That doesn't give as big of an excuse for PoFV though...the AI in that game dodge almost everything too, on Lunatic especially.

[@vavada8288]

+WishMakers As far as I'm concerned though, AI in Bullet Hell was a novelty at the time PoDD was released (and probably still is!), so ZUN is technically a pioneer of it. I think the bad AI in PoDD and PoFV is justified by this fact.

[@WishMakers]

+Vavada I guess so. I can see how hard it would be to make AI for Bullet Hell games.

[@derpyfailz572]

Bruh the computer straight up *decides* when it gets hit. Like bruh just look at that last hit and tell me it didn’t do that on purpose.

[@hyeonse]

The idea that a human being is capable of this confuses me. What D:

[@GPWfiles]

Epilepsy: the video game

[@Scyclo]

This is why people with epilepsy shouldn't even think about playing curtain shooters. Shmups are tons of flashy ligths

[@orlandomoreno6168]

Polybius the anime version

[@L30GH05TDUD3]

@@orlandomoreno6168 oh god Touhou fans would really hate your guts for saying that, take it from me.

[@kirimusse]

@@L30GH05TDUD3 We hate that Touhou gets called an anime instead of a videogame, but we accept that it is anime-ish in its artstyle.

[@cor_abacor]

Most intense shit I watched this evening

[@mayonnaisejake7191]

Preety much me rn

[@zwatssecondchannel8825]

I believe this is a prime example of "The Computer is a Cheating Bastard". Now let's see if it's included on TVTropes?

[@jacks1368]

I think this is more "Perfect Play AI".

[@HugoPegler]

Either way, it's a fine example of "SNK Boss Syndrome"

[@KitsuneGB-hc9zb]

@@jacks1368Yumemi literally *does* cheat tho. Her AI is programmed to never get hit *whatsoever* until you do.

[@Scyclo]

I want yumemi to make a return.

[@TheLugiaSong]

No PC-98 characters will ever return except for Marisa, Reimu Alice and Yuuka I think. Fans have been hopeful for Mima's return forever, but that certainly hasn't happened :\

[@HashiNuke]

@@TheLugiaSong Even until now.

[@HashiNuke]

Still hoping for her in Goyouku Ibun

[@HashiNuke]

@Charles Michiru Gallo Hell if I know?

[@zvolyx3247]

@@TheLugiaSong at least we can dream

[@ImFangzBro]

Everyone is capable of this, through the power of SCIENCE!

[@mayonnaisejake7191]

Stroheim would confirm

[@oskarilahtinen9509]

Well, I could get past everything without continues on Easy except her. I wasted all my continues on her and still lost. Only thing keeping me from rage quitting was her theme.

[@bluepikmin6363]

Me too.

[@poledra4153]

Played this game after finishing multiple games on normal and extra stages Took me ~5 tries no continues but all lives to beat her Would have been even more difficult if i hadn't played touhou 2 before Also, the time i beat her, it felt more like i got lucky 'cause went down fast compared to my other tries where she wold never get hit

[@eugenebarrett]

I was going to say that Yumemi dodges as well after ten minutes as she does in the first ten seconds, and that she only gets hit by the usual suspects (moon bodyslams, boss summon bodyslams, dense spirit clusters, and EX attacks).... but then she ate a -snowball- with -a bomb in stock- to lose the round. That's unprecedent serious affair right there, sir.

[@yuk_ichi52]

Her science was so powerful she managed to convince Gendo Ikari into teaching her crossed energy blasts

[@Joshthepikachu2123]

I fucking hate those crosses. Chiyuri is fucking lunatic too, but her Marisa-esque lasers can be managed if you're paying attention. These crosses can potentially corner you and take like a quarter of space from your screen, what the hell??? Phantasmagoria of Dim Dream more like Yumemi Cross Rape Nightmare

[@WomanSlayer69420]

This is the most intense dogfight I have ever watched

[@ashtonleach9866]

Do these rounds last until one player gets rekt?

[@distortedvibratocontentawa7962]

Essentially yes

[@CuddlyTheMadElite]

Damn it! What are you doing? You should be collecting those 3-up moons, not shooting them!

[@wilhelmu]

3 ups? wat?

[@CuddlyTheMadElite]

***** The moons look like the 3-ups from Super Mario World.

[@wilhelmu]

dear god dont scare me like that i almost thought ive been doing something wrong all the time

[@CuddlyTheMadElite]

AquaOshawott01 Because you're not blind I assume.

[@piranha-san6646]

Now is the moon of Super Mario Odyssey x)

[@ketchupmanor]

So, Marisa has Galaxy Wings. What happened to them?

[@ketchupmanor]

***** Wait, wouldn't they be attached to Marisa? Unless it's like Cirno's icicles, probably.

[@renton8182]

ketchupmanor Nah those wings are most likely conjured. Especially with them looking all galaxy like.

[@alecgarbely686]

One wing has a red universe and the other has blue... reminds me of something...

[@kensukekomachi1182]

My guess.. since this is phantasmagoria of "dim dream" those wings on marisa represent her dream to fly without her broom...or her desire to be like mima.

[@ashurtl96]

Kensuke Komachi except she can. She just chooses to use the broom because it looks witchy.

[@AdieuAlle]

Phantasmagoria of Dim Dream.. Phantasmagoria of Flower View.. It’s all the same.

[@HashiNuke]

PoFV is PoDD 2.0, Clownpiss

[@magiamadokaist2853]

Always has been

[@jayck7686]

Touhou 19 Unfinished Dream of All Living Ghosts Atleast Orin called the incident a Phantasmagoria

[@redactedgamersgd1788]

​@@jayck7686 Phantasmogaria of All Living Ghosts

[@chronosanaki5174]

Ahhh the good 'ol days! Even if I didn't live during this era of gaming...

[@jakcesleepingrn5739]

Jaimers: **Perfect touhou 12** PoDD AI: *Pathetic*

[@prismatixthehumanperson6184]

Yo, Marisa with the wings and staff needs to be revived for the next touhou game.

[@NeoNickz]

Hmmmmm, may be true cuz 19 is a phastasmagoria game

[@goodname3838]

Imagine this with 2 players.

[@Zoroark7]

Yumemi has such an awesome entrance when activating a Lvl 4 spellcard. I wonder why that hasn't been reused in any form...how dissappointing. :(

[@4is-not-thenumberofdeath169]

One of touhou's most difficult last bosses...

[@HashiNuke]

More than Junk

[@longlivethe9989]

@@HashiNuke Junk doesn't feel that difficult, because the true nightmare is already beaten at Stage 5...

[@absoutezeo2126]

@@longlivethe9989 Unless you run out of bombs before her LS.

[@Ministevo1]

@@absoutezeo2126 I had to restart my pointdevice run because of that

[@dava8058]

Just like someone said in yumemi's theme video: "The hardest boss is a 18 years old human"

[@abarette_]

3:25 *Dies *Yumemi does an absurd giant cloud of bullet

[@mmKALLL]

...Whoooo!! I can see why th09 - PoFV is regarded to be quite similar to this. Except this is... REALLY, REALLY much harder it seems=O

[@CidHighwindFF7]

@eugenebarrett Its ridiculous, they will dodge a field absolutely saturated with danmaku, complete with those fast bullets you can barely see flying everywhere. But, they will inexplicably sideswipe something when there is barley anything on screen. In TH09, I see the AI take a hit from a level 2 attack in the first ten seconds A LOT.

[@luiss428]

i think the lack of detail (i.e. 98 graphics) is actually what gives it its flair.

[@kyuura4324]

Oh cool, apparently in the original era, Touhou played like Twinkle Star Sprites with even more bullet rain.

[@JaimersSTG]

@TheMasterSpark Hypercam2 Works absolutely perfect for PC-98.

[@dibby1045]

Imagine if this game had another sequel, but it was similar to tetris 99. Absolute chaos, but sounds pretty fun.

[@roun-nekomin]

エグすぎんだろ…

[@maelsonjunior6420]

It would be cool af if ZUN did a remake of the PC-98 era

[@brandonsantisteban9626]

I can feel the true arcade Spirit. Yes... The bits music have that special touch.

[@GaryOakIsMine]

I hate to ask but in the description you state the characters (some of them anyway) as broken; I figure Chiyuri is because of the second delay where you can't bomb/hyper but that is about all I know about characters being broken. Care to elaborate please? PoDD is one of my favourite games and I hadn't bothered to take notice. Had been hunting for information and all I found (by experience none the less) was Chiyuri and the bomb fiasco.

[@touhouyamaxmichezuch.1302]

Jaimers repeatedly losing to Yumemi? Impossible! I bet she didn't even have any danmaku experience.

[@TheMasterSpark]

That's an awesome run you had there, nicely done. :) What video-capturing software did you use to film this? I noticed that FRAPS wouldn't recognize the emulator as a game window~

[@HashiNuke]

I think it's OBS

[@forestofsecrets7273]

@@HashiNuke did obs even exist ten years ago?

[@plaguis1391]

@@forestofsecrets7273 it did not, that guy is an idiot lmao

[@krystal69420]

I don’t understand shit, but i enjoy it.

[@22dolls19]

It's kinda funny how Yumemi in her story claims that she's from the future. Meanwhile the games where she most likely fits in (Seihou) not olny plays in the future, but from the perspective from TH3, literally is in the future

[@werewook]

Not only is she from the future, she's also from another dimension. I wonder if she's like an alternate universe Sumireko or Renko.

[@autumnshinespark]

What's this, it's CHIYURI FROM BEHIND WITH THE STEEL CHAIR

[@narutofan2171]

what emulator do you use. the sound is great and there arent any missing noises

[@Caleb_Doggett]

T-98 NEXT Is the best you can use.

[@HouraisanKaguya]

Caleb Doggett My favorite is Neko project, because the quality is great and there's no lag, as quoted from the English translation patches for the pc 98 touhou games "There's really no reason to use any other emulator"

[@thettbd]

minecraftdarkveil Nah, Anex86 is the best.

[@Caleb_Doggett]

The Terrible Bullet Dodger "Hey guys, look how funny I am when I'm trolling xDDD"

[@thettbd]

Caleb Doggett I wasn't trolling. It's one of the good ones, then. :/

[@Andre00x]

holy shit, this is crazy

[@Th3Fr3nchy]

At least Lily White wasn't there to add some more difficulty^^ Anyway, great job because when you see the way the computer is dodging the bullets, you wonder how it's possible to hit him...

[@xXNightSparrowXx]

Lunatic Yumemi reminds me so much of Shikieiki just cus both are ridiculously hard to hit and both get hits really easily

[@RadTheDDLCandFNFfan]

0:41

[@alexhndr]

When Touhou AI makes even Raiden players go all out back then

[@princesstinklepanties2720]

All you did was put a cape on

[@JoeMama-ih9kz]

as a undertale player, i can confirm not even fdy fangames are as hard as this.

[@ashecsavior5126]

Yumemi REALLY is a strawberry crisis ROFL "battle theme". I always wondered why the demetori and DBU arranges of that song called itself that till i looked it up. Turn's out, Yumemi's EX attack is called "Strawberry Cross". WTF LOL

[@ashecsavior5126]

+Danielle Pluzsik 😂 rofl

[@Fanaticofmanythings]

Ooooooooh. THANK YOU! I'm only familiar with the newer games, but I've been trying to read up on the older ones. Not fun. ; ;

[@bsherman8236]

Which side am i supposed to look?

[@Rose-gp3qw]

Left is the player. Right is the boss AI.

[@Lunevia]

Who would constitute a high-tier "broken" character anyway? o.O

[@rockhyde7775]

Is Reimu wearing a black cape?!?

[@davidgn40]

Ok this was kinda funny

[@RadTheDDLCandFNFfan]

no

[@oosha2000]

That's Yumeni not Reimu

[@rockhyde7775]

Well, that’s what I thought seeing the thumbnail. Which it isn’t at all, it is Yumemi.

[@oosha2000]

@@rockhyde7775 She looks similar to the modern Reimu and I was mind-blown.

[@piocco7]

最高すぎる うふふ魔理沙かわいいな？

[@JustOneMoreChild]

Think Phantasmagoria of Flower View. The computer's on the right playing Yumemi, the one on the left is the player playing Marisa. This is a PC 98 Touhou game (as in really old, canon questionable touhou game). You only need to beat the computer once, the rest were... continues. I'd recommend playing the very first game, Highly Responsive to Prayers.

[@satyman08]

who would win: yumemi dodging or gengetsu raep time

[@Gappyhagsux69]

Chiyuri knocks out Yumemi! OWNAGE 1!!!

[@jellyyl2712]

imagine playing this in VR

[@puzzlepuddles6712]

8:29 Um, what the fuck?

[@puzzlepuddles6712]

You're telling me yumemi can dodge that but then dies to a singular tiny bullet??

[@anieerscarlet1127]

how to download touhou1-5??

[@LittleIkaMusume]

Dat theme...

[@CorpseTongji]

How do you even dodge that Shinki-like attack Yumemi does?

[@S0LISTARA]

Sometimes, Chiyuri and Yumemi look like Komachi and Shikieki... (Just a bit)

[@HashiNuke]

*Eiki Shiki

[@mirusdelw]

Thank god ZUN made the recent games easier… The hardest boss in whole touhou??!!

[@toro2812]

Hardest final boss yes, hardest boss? Look no further than Gengetsu in touhou 4.

[@cyclops8939]

ああ、神曲だ もっとサビが長ければいいのに

[@homuraakemi103]

I kind of want another Phantasmagoria game. Considering this one has amazing music, but has aged like milk…and PoDD is…okay, but could be better…

[@mariofun21]

sir this is PoDD, the other one (touhou 9) is PoFV

[@homuraakemi103]

@@mariofun21 You miss the point. We haven’t had a game LIKE this SINCE PoFV…

[@ryanp7546]

@@homuraakemi103 well good news

[@oosha2000]

And there's Touhou 19 with the same mechanism but Phantasmagoria isn't part of the game title this time.

[@Fanaticofmanythings]

Uh, I'm probably going to look like an idiot, but can someone tell me who the player character is? And just how this game works in general? I mean, Marisa loses twice, but she wins once and it counts as a win and I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

[@dava8058]

Late 8 years but The left is the player while the right is the AI. When the player loose/die they can use "continue" which is basically a restart. The point of this game is basically like a survival where the last one standing is the winner. Some additional info will be given if you have some questions

[@utsuhoreiuji9850]

Phantasmagoria of flower view before it was cool

[@utsuhoreiuji9850]

Oh my god

[@4is-not-thenumberofdeath169]

Who's a more difficult fight, Yumemi or Shikieiki?

[@4is-not-thenumberofdeath169]

PoseidonLover Ok, thanks for your opinion 'cause I did not get the two Phantasmagoria-themed games.

[@OkamiKai6980]

@@4is-not-thenumberofdeath169 well, I suppose it would be Yumemi.

[@pachicore]

HOW?!

[@nick53686]

if only this was the english translated v34sion i'd be able to know what they are saying

[@nick53686]

Yes I know. But it has not yet been fully translated. Its just been translated to where you can know what they are talking about. Basically its only translated by a little bit

[@darksaiyan9103]

.... huh people were right. I would enjoy this game

[@leopold621]

10:10 - HAHA!XD

[@oosha2000]

10:10

[@stardoogalaxie9314]

That art OOF

[@WoWMyrrh]

Wtf one hit with laz0r means BAM 3 lives? O_O

[@LittleIkaMusume]

Imagine if they were actually black holes ;-;

[@user-kc5mt1gh1w]

Touhou 3 vs touhou 18 Who will win at the grapichs;)

[@ducklast_name4175]

Yumemi the 3rd hardest final boss after Sariel and Junko

[@emeraldarwyn5367]

uhhh no. yuyuko is harder than junko.

[@ducklast_name4175]

Astrid the Otaku what? Yuyuko is hard i know but at least her danmaku can be done. Junko is impossible without at least one bomb.

[@emeraldarwyn5367]

Chen Yakumo I've cleared lolk on every character. I've only cleared pcb on 1 (both forms)

[@ashtonleach9866]

If you're talking PC-98 Normal Gengetsu, Yumemi is the hardest. Lunatic Gengetsu? The true hardest. Why? It's only for one reason: *GENGETSU RAPE TIME!!!!!*

[@ashtonleach9866]

***** I actually 1cc'd Highly Responsive to Prayers on the Makai AND Hell paths after getting some practice. Too bad I did it on Easy mode D:

[@TheNufinger]

I am so confused...

[@zaltajobratil3589]

Why does she throw symbols of Abrahamic religions at you?

[@chayudyodchit2872]

There's a theory by some fans that she is a Christian. Which is sort of possible, despite being a scientist she has a rather unusual fascination with supernatural/mystical stuff, and in the ending cutscene (except for Chiyuri ones) She says this: *magic is real!, closely related to religion*

[@gryfiehthegryphoness69]

....

[@otorimasu]

rpg touhou are just look better and awesome :)

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

wth is this

[@RKBM_10]

A typical day in Gensoyko.

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

@@RKBM_10 xD

[@goodname3838]

Yumemi is a Jew.

[@kgamejeidaszueras3720]

shikieiki is harder

[@kgamejeidaszueras3720]

pofv >>> podd u.u

[@xenotwo2340]

Unlike

[@TouenTheTotallyNormalIdiot]

the start sounds like fart

[@oosha2000]

There was a problem while recording but yeah. Did I forget to tell you this video was recorded 14 years ago ?