Tournament at Avalon Review - with Zee Garcia

[@captainron7120]

This is a hit with my family. It’s the Mario Kart of trick taking.

[@sergiojuan217]

Such an accurate description

[@JerreMuesli]

Lmao!

[@deronfreudenthal5646]

This is my favorite trick taking game! With all the different Arthurian characters and their awesome powers as well as all the shaming, feinting, and special cards, it almost has a Monty Python and the Holy Grail kind of feel. It’s one of those games where something unexpected happens, you get silly mad, and everyone laughs including you. Love it! Thanks Zee!

[@martinlarouche4418]

My favorite trick taking game. Because the game requires you to figure out how to play well... each and every round. Due to the changing powers and rules, what card to play when constantly changes. The game remains fresh throughout.

[@roryparlin2414]

As usual Zee great stream and review. Thanks

[@Dalmatinac3]

We love this game. Went so well with our group. So much fun and laughter around the table!

[@PatrickBrophy]

I bought this one sight unseen when it was released awhile ago since my friends and I absolutely love the first one. More of the same though for the most part, but we haven't played it since the pandemic.

[@ieatstheinternet]

I love this game aesthetically! I might have to get it just because I like the design so much. Not usually big on trick taking games tho.... hmmm.

[@Obvious_Llama]

Great review! I picked this one up after Sam's recommendation for Tournament at Camelot. My issue with it is I never know when to bring it out. Just above a family weight romp with a serious art style.

[@dgissberg]

Same here. Hard to sell in by the looks, although I love every bit.

[@xshadowscreamx]

Yeah I played it once with family and have had not a chance to play it again, I got it before I really knew the tastes of the people I play with and most do not care for this level card complexity. They like puzzle games though like calico and sagrada, my dad hates reading cards unless the text is simple.

[@xshadowscreamx]

What hurts the game with casual audience the most is the commitment to terminology on the cards.

[@RottenJeeves]

Which is better Camelot or Avalon?

[@riccardodepieri4582]

Sooo... I didn't really get what the difference between Camelot and Avalon is... Best one of the two?

[@dksocal]

My question as well. I love luck-driven games with lots of back-and-forth, so Avalon sounds like my bag, but I’d love to know what Zee’s take on which one rates highest between the two.

[@martinlarouche4418]

Avalon has a big rule change from Camelot. In Avalon, you can play the wild suit at anytime. In Camelot, you can only play it if you can't play anything else. Given a choice, i'd get Avalon. ... though i personally just combined the two to make a giant deck of godsend cards (the crazy power cards) and play using the Avalon rules. All characters and all but a couple cards from Camelot can be combined seemlessly. If you have both, there are rules in Avalon to play the game in Teams with up to 12 players (though i'm not sure i'd ever do that).

[@dksocal]

@@martinlarouche4418 Great direction. That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!

[@captainron7120]

Interchangeable, more powers/characters with the rule changes already mentioned. Avalon is the better of the two (IMO) but you can easily play the Avalon rules with Camelot

[@JoshOBryan]

really looking forward to getting this one to the table.

[@xshadowscreamx]

I love the aesthetic, I love medieval art.

[@benlauson555]

Me To, like Troyes art

[@chuckm1961]

Agree. The game presents as something serious, when it it is actually a wacky free-for-all.

[@ClaudeAndTaylor]

Yeah this is a super wacky, swingy game, but loads of fun if you are in the mood for that!!

[@MirkoCano]

Currently out of stock everywhere in EU :-(

[@xshadowscreamx]

"If you riffle shuffle" = "if you hate having nice things"

[@skylargladden2765]

This may only be because of the extreme nature of the Fairies card Zee chose to show, but it makes me think this is essentially Fluxx: The Trick-Taking Game. Love trick-taking, but this one seems to be a pass for me, though I have had my eye on it and its predecessor for awhile. I enjoy chaos occasionally, but not that often and usually of a different sort than this (Robo Rally, for example). I probably would enjoy it in a party-ish setting where someone else brought it out, maybe once a year or so.

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

Not bad.

[@crimson90]

Seems interesting, but I'd rather just play hearts.

[@martinlarouche4418]

If you like Hearts, take a look at the game called "Black Spy", by Alan Moon (of Ticket to Ride fame). It's basically hearts with a different card distribution and point values for cards. It makes the game immensely more interesting. Very clever game.