Did the Rabbis lie about the Oral Torah? Rabbi Tovia Singer proves Oral Law from New Testament!

[@29sasha]

I did notice, even as a child, but before KZbin I did not have access to Rabbis. I am eternally grateful to Rabbis who teach on line. I came to Rabbis because I found Kabbalah. Thank you for your work.

[@mfway]

Rabbi you should consider making a spotify podcast on your teachings. It would be another way for people to learn from you and be taught the history

[@LoreneRaeWard]

Thank you so much. This is so great!

[@mightymadrid]

Rabbi, if it were not for you I would know nothing about the Shema and other direct commandments Christianity has forgot/purposely left out. Thank you for what you do, your words reach my soul.

[@ישעיהובן-תורה]

Just leave Christianity behind...there is nothing worthy there...

[@dmenwatson1954]

Agreed. I left Christianity and it was my best decision ever. I am a happy jew now . How can you think Jesus is the messiah if he’s dead

[@jakamsoohia7492]

Jesus died and ressurected

[@themosinguy6508]

@@jakamsoohia7492 so did shabbtai tzvi and the lubavitcher rebbe according to their followers

[@samworthy1257]

@@jakamsoohia7492 no jesus didn't die and ressurect. Nonsense story taken from Greek fables

[@gideon880]

Wonderful as always! Baruch HaShem.

[@kameelffarag]

To me this is the first time I found Rabbi Singer is so accurate, honest and informative.

[@promotingkiruv1948]

As always thank you so much Rabbi Singer! As an Orthodox Jew I find this video humorous, not gonna lie

[@debrapaulino918]

@Iyas kelu As usual you reveal your propensity to not grasp the context of what he says. In layman's terms that's called dense, thick, empty, absent ... slow, stupid ... since you do not abide by the community standard not to twist, slander, misalign and misappropriate what is said, you get the whip from me.

[@debrapaulino918]

@Iyas kelu You've been told over and over that human sacrifice was declared an abomination 3300 yrs ago in Torah and also by the Prophets but you refuse to listen.

[@glenanleitner2606]

this is just common sense Jews are a nation of priests so they are supposed to teach the Torah

[@juvilee]

This fact alone goes over so many arrogant heads

[@glenanleitner2606]

@Abraham Mani thats all pagan Why can't you show me any verse in the Hebrew scriptures that states your claim?

[@gabrielleangelica1977]

Rabbi, what do you think about the Kararite Jews who do not believe in the Oral Law since it did not come directly from G-d? 🔶

[@ManageDeMaia]

Bottom line, no written torah (teachings) is possible without oral torah that predates it. Any written teaching of any kind will always be an extract of the oral teachings that came before.

[@zamiel3]

@Ken Brownsher Did you read the OP?

[@zamiel3]

@Ken Brownsher That is absolutely irrelevant to the topic of the thread.

[@folkeholtz6351]

Without the Oral Torah we would not know how to apply the written Torah. Thanks HaShem for the Rabbis in Talmud and all generation afterward who supported the life of the Jewish people. Oh how I love the Talmud.

[@loricalass4068]

We don’t need the oral Torah. It says horrifying things about women and about sexuality with little children. And other repellant things in general. King Josiah found lost scrolls, written scrolls, that had been forgotten. The Torah have been lost and forgotten for a long time before that. If they were forgotten, how in the heck was an oral law going to be preserved? Where is any oral law even mentioned in the Bible? If you are a female you need to learn that you not what the Talmud says you are, but what the Torah says you are. Study women like Deborah and Jael and Hulda and even Rahab. I have examined the Talmud and I have studied the Bible for years. The Talmud absolutely does not help me in anyway at all to better understand the Torah. In fact it seriously contradicts the Torah. I assume this post will be removed. I hope you see it before then.

[@folkeholtz6351]

@@loricalass4068 Yes, we do need the Oral Torah. it is impossible to just have only the written Torah, since question is coming up on how we shall understand texts which are very old and that we do not have this enviroment around us. Just go to a Christian bookstore and ask the two question: " Why all these books? is it not enought with the Bible? and you will get a very interesting answers. You see all the educating books is a sort of Oral Torah for the Christians which is needed for many to understand the Bible. It is just the same for us Jews. However with the very big difference and tha tis that Talmud is a DISCUSSIONBOOK with all sorts of opinion clashing against each other as waves in a stormy sea, a sort of Juridic discussion without a bottom line. Will all opinion be the right one or is it an open discussion which goes along through generations up to our time. You will read good points and bad points because this is how it is among humans. But G-d is in it all there you have a discussion in chevruta to make your intellect skarp. Talmud can not be read but discuss, and there is no written text without a oral speach there some can be written down. A written Torah can not exist without an Oral Torah. Go back and listen to Rabbi Tovia and learn.

[@loricalass4068]

@@folkeholtz6351 and P.S. I pray that little children, and women, will be protected from you, too.

[@folkeholtz6351]

@@loricalass4068 That kind of prayer is understandable due to the fact that you does not understand what kind of literature Talmud is. You ought to go to university or to a conservative Yeshiva and learn there.

[@loricalass4068]

@Abraham Mani I do believe in Yahushuah haMashiach and that it is faith in him that leads to eternal life. What I don’t believe are any traditions of men in both Judaism, or to a lesser extent in Christianity, which conflict with his words. He always upheld the Torah and blasted the Pharisees for all their burdensome man-made laws and regulations.

[@zd4790]

Paul says Jewish laws of Torah are fables *(Titus **1:14**).* Paul acknowledged indirectly Pagan Xtianity and Pagan Messiah are not belong to Jewish Bible. Basically NT is the greatest fable ever.

[@jad1714]

Bible literally mean confused/mixed up in loshen ha kodesh

[@zd4790]

@@bernieflores6350 No wonder here. These are fables told by Paul in one place. Elsewhere he said to obey this laws. This is his hypocrisy. This is his complete package of lies. Paul said two things in two jingles to deceive. This is his nature. We know it.

[@zd4790]

@@bernieflores6350 He really said it in Titus 1:14. Then another place he told different thing. This is his hypocrisy. Don't try to hide his faults. *Be ye followers of me… that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances,* *as I delivered [them] to you.* *(1 Corinthians 11:1)* *“If ye continue in my word,* *then are ye my disciples indeed” (John **8:31**)* According to *Deuteronomy **24:16**,* *Ezekiel **18:20**-21,* and *Micah 6:7-8,* a man is responsible for his own sin. Jesus rejected the Pauline doctrine of “vicarious atonement”. *Compare the two passages below:* And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without sheddingof blood is no remission. *(Hebrews **9:22**)* Jesus was teaching his disciples in the outer court of the Temple and one of them said unto him: Master, it is said by the priests that without shedding of blood there is no remission. Can then the blood offering of the law take away sin? And Jesus answered: *No blood offering,* *of beast or bird,* *or man,* *can take away sin,* for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation. *(Gospel of the Nazorenes, Lection 33, verses 1-2)* *Paul rejected circumcision:* This [is] my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant. *(Genesis **17:14**)* When his son Isaac was eight days old, Abraham circumcised him, as God commanded him. *(Genesis 21:4)* And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. *(Exodus **12:48**)* On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he had been conceived. *(Luke **2:21**)* And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, [and said], Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. *(Acts 15:1)* Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:19) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. (Matthew 23:23) The Jewish Law commands the circumcision on the eighth day. The reason why Christians are not circumcised is because they follow Paul. They have broken the covenant of Circumcision according to Jesus himself *(**5:19**)* For in Jesus Christ neither circumcisionavaileth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. *(Galatians 5:6, KJV)* *The Talmud states the following to those who break the Covenant:* "The one who voids the covenant of Abraham has no portion in the world to come *(Avot **3:16**).* You Christians may not have any *“portion in the world to come”* because you have totally rejected the Message of Torah, replacing the Gospel with the Gospel of Paul.

[@zackmano]

The NT being the oldest record of the Oral Torah 🤯 I never thought of that at all but that is absolutely correct! Wow. Yasher koach, Rav Singer. That really did blow my mind! 🙌💙🔯🙏

[@samworthy1257]

NT is not oral torah. It is oral but not part of the Torah. Christian book and trash.

[@dixonbuttes]

This is a really great argument, thank you!

[@phatvegan1691]

This is AMAZING 👏, Thank you Rabbi and William +team.

[@kevinhoneycutt238]

Jesus has already answered all this. 1 John 2:22-23 KJV Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."

[@Zundopolis]

Jesus told the Jews to listen to the scribes and Pharisees not because of their oral tradition, but because of their office - the seat of Moses. He was telling them to submit to leaders. However, Jesus clearly rebuked the Pharisees because of their slavish adherence to oral tradition and and its inevitable effect: the lowering of God's commands. Matthew 15:1-9 (NAS): 1 Then some Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, 2 “Why do Your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread.” 3 And He answered and said to them, “Why do you yourselves transgress the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 “For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother is to be put to death.’ 5 “But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever I have that would help you has been given to God,” 6 he is not to honor his father or his mother.’ And by this you invalidated the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 “You hypocrites, rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you: 8 ‘This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far away from Me. 9 ‘But in vain do they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’ ”

[@CHJazzman]

Rabbi, may I recommend instead of just, "Prove." Really, the New Testament only proves - the existence - of Oral Law. The New Testament does not prove for instance the veracity of the Oral Law, as in many instances the in the New Testament there is a disparaging opinion of the Oral Law. I think "Prove" in the text needs that qualifier in order to be functional.

[@lunarsensitive1]

Question, what's thedifference between the Talmud and the Mishna and what is the best place to read the oral Torah?

[@lunarsensitive1]

@Strava 89 Thanks!

[@PawsomeFeeders]

@@lunarsensitive1 B"H friend

[@lunarsensitive1]

@@PawsomeFeeders Shalom!

[@lunarsensitive1]

@Abraham Mani No thanks.

[@debrapaulino918]

Yet Paul says elsewhere circumcision is nothing. I'm so glad to be out of this mess. It's no wonder non believers think Christians are borderline something. Their rejection by media is thought discriminatory. I thought so too until I saw the truth with my own eyes by simply investing more time reading the left side of the book.

[@flipflop6525]

Can the Oral Torah be completely written out or is this a language/culture barrier?

[@KaraiteKohen]

As a Karaite Jew, I have for the most part great respect for Rabbi Singers "Let's Get Biblical" series and the vast corpus of his analysis regarding the false teachings of Christianity. However, I write to respectfully dissent from Rabbi Singer's mistranslation of the Torah Deuteronomy 16:1 and explain how the biblical calendar worked prior to the advent of the Rabbi Hillel II z'tl (b330-d365). I agree with Rabbi Singer that the Hebrew Calendar cannot be 354 days (at 14:33), and the Creator biblically gave us a self-correcting mechanism to adjust the Calendar. In Rabbi Singer's version of Deuteronomy 16:1 he translates (or should I say mistranslates) the term ("הָאָבִיב") HaAviv as "Springtime" resulting in the rather forced translation Month of Springtime. In the Torah however we are told: The story of the Exodus relates "This day you are going out in the the month of the Aviv." (Ex 13:4). To commemorate that we left Egypt in the month of the Aviv, we are instructed to bring the Passover sacrifice and celebrate the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Chag HaMatzot) at this time of year. In Dt 16:1 we are commanded: 1 Observe the month of Abib, and keep the passover unto the LORD thy God; for in the month of Abib the LORD thy God brought thee forth out of Egypt by night." Similarly, we are commanded in Ex 23:15: "You will keep the Feast of Unleavened Bread; seven days you will eat unleavened bread, as I have commanded you, at the time of the month of the Aviv, because in it you went out of Egypt." The same is commanded in Ex 34:18: "You will keep the Feast of Unleavened Bread; seven days you will eat unleavened bread, as have I commanded you, at the time of the month of the Aviv, because in the month of the Aviv you went out of Egypt." What is Aviv? Aviv indicates a stage in the development of the barley crops. This is clear from Ex 9:31-32 which describes the devastation caused by the plague of hail: "And the flax and the barley were smitten, because the barley was Aviv and the flax was Giv'ol. And the wheat and the spelt were not smitten because they were dark (Afilot)." The above passage relates that the barley crops were destroyed by the hail while the wheat and spelt were not damaged. To understand the reason for this we must look at how grain develops. When grains are early in their development they are flexible and have a dark green color. As they become ripe they take on a light yellowish hue and become more brittle. The reason that the barley was destroyed and the wheat was not is that the barley had reached the stage in its development called Aviv and as a result had become brittle enough to be damaged by the hail. In contrast, the wheat and spelt were still early enough in their development, at a stage when they were flexible and not susceptible to being damaged by hail. The description of the wheat and spelt as "dark" (Afilot) indicates that they were still in the stage when they were deep green and had not yet begun to lighten into the light yellowish hue which characterizes ripe grains. In contrast, the barley had reached the stage of Aviv at which time it was no longer "dark" and at this point it probably had begun to develop golden streaks. Parched Aviv We know from several passages that barley which is in the state of Aviv has not completely ripened, but has ripened enough so that its seeds can be eaten parched in fire. Parched barley was a commonly eaten food in ancient Israel and is mentioned in numerous passages in the Hebrew Bible as either "Aviv parched (Kalui) in fire" (Lev 2,14) or in the abbreviated form "parched (Kalui/ Kali)" (Lev 23:14; Jos 5:11; 1Sam 17:17; 1 Samuel 25:18; 2 Samuel 17:28; Ruth 2:14). While still early in its development, barley has not yet produced large enough and firm enough seeds to produce food through parching. This early in its development, when the "head" has just come out of the shaft, the seeds are not substantial enough to produce any food. At a later stage, the seeds have grown in size and have filled with liquid. At this point the seeds will shrivel up when parched and will only produce empty skins. Over time the liquid is replaced with dry material and when enough dry material has amassed the seeds will be able to yield "barley parched in fire". Aviv and the Harvest The month of the Aviv is the month which commences after the barley has reached the stage of Aviv. 2-3 weeks after the beginning of the month the barley has moved beyond the stage of Aviv and is ready to be brought as the "wave-sheaf offering" (Hanafat HaOmer). The "wave-sheaf offering" is a sacrifice brought from the first stalks cut in the harvest and is brought on the Sunday which falls out during Passover (Chag HaMatzot). This is described in Lev 23:10-11, "When you come to the land which I give you, and harvest its harvest, you will bring the sheaf of the beginning of your harvest to the priest. And he will wave the sheaf before the Lord so you will be accepted; on the morrow after the Sabbath the priest will wave it." From this it is clear that the barley, which was Aviv at the beginning of the month, has become harvest-ready 15-21 days later (i.e by the Sunday during Passover). Therefore, the month of the Aviv can not begin unless the barley has reached a stage where it will be harvest-ready 2-3 weeks later. That the barley must be harvest-ready 2-3 weeks into the month of the Aviv is also clear from Dt 16:9 which states: "From when the sickle commences on the standing grain you will begin to count seven weeks." From Lev 23:15 we know that the seven weeks between Passover (Chag Hamatzot) and Pentecost (Shavuot) begin on the day when the wave-sheaf offering is brought (i.e. the Sunday which falls out during Passover): "And you shall count from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day you bring the sheaf of waving; they will be seven complete Sabbaths." Therefore, the "sickle commences on the standing grain" on the Sunday during Passover, i.e. 2-3 weeks after the beginning of the month of the Aviv. If the barley is not developed enough so that it will be ready for the sickle 2-3 weeks later, then the month of the Aviv can not begin and we must wait till the following month. It should be noted that not all the barley ripens in the Land of Israel at the same time. The wave-sheaf offering is a national sacrifice brought from the first fields to become harvest-ready. However, the first-fruit offerings brought by individual farmers can vary in ripeness anywhere from "Aviv parched in fire" to fully ripe grain which may be brought "crushed" or "coarsely ground". This is what is meant in Lev 2:14, "And when you bring a first-fruit offering to the Lord; you shall bring your first-fruit offering as Aviv parched in fire or crushed Carmel" (Carmel is grain which has hardened beyond Aviv to the point where it can be "crushed" or "coarsely ground"). All of the above passages have been translated directly from the Hebrew and it is worth noting that the King James translators seem to have only understood the various Hebrew agricultural terms very poorly. In Lev 2:14 they translated Carmel as "full ears" and "Aviv" as "green ears" whereas in Lev 23:14 they translated Carmel as "green ears"! In summation, barley which is in the state of Aviv has 3 characteristics: It is brittle enough to be destroyed by hail and has begun to lighten in color (it is not "dark"). The seeds have produced enough dry material so it can be eaten parched. It has developed enough so that it will be harvest-ready 2-3 weeks later.

[@mfway]

Hi Rabbi Tovia, I myself is Jewish, but I’ve been wondering why many Christians claim to have been healed and blessed miracles by Jesus. Anyone leave your thoughts please

[@samvoron1727]

You will find people in every religion and in no religion who claim to have experienced miracles. This means miracles do not prove anything because all humans experience them no matter what religion they are in. Torah Deuteronomy 13:2 If there comes in the midst of you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams and he gives you a sign or a wonder, Torah Deuteronomy 13:3 and the sign or the wonder happens and then he spoke to you saying: "Let us go after other gods (not the one God but a God who is “three in one”), which you have not known, and let us serve them (not the one God but a God who is “three in one”)'; Torah Deuteronomy 13:4 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet, or to that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

[@erwinrencong9865]

Please make Indonesian subtitles,Mr Rabbi.I Subscribe to your channel,but I don't understand English🙏🙏🙏

[@ForeverTruthVV]

When I look at the Torah I see that Moshe sat Face to Face with G-d which made him the Greatest of all Prophets. And what came out of G-d's Mouth to Moshe was the Oral Torah, then G-d told Moshe to "Write These Words Down", which then made G-d's Oral Torah into the Written Torah. HaShem told us we are not to add to nor take away from His Words Written in the Torah that He gave to Moshe. it does not get any simpler than that.... But boy, do we complicate it, both in Xianity and Rabbinic Judaism. HaShem said... "My people do not LISTEN TO ME". My people do not hear MY Voice." We are so busy listening to the Priest, the Pastors, the Rabbis the Sages, that we have all forgotten to Listen to HaShem!

[@scottdunn6308]

I like this thank you! 🙂

[@phoenixrising3404]

Thank you Rabbi

[@sinpilot3195]

Sylvia it’s not at all presumptuous. I am a Christian and before you even said that that’s exactly what I said I just don’t know it, I have no idea about the oral Torah. So lately that is in your videos have been rather eye-opening

[@truthgiverandfinder3246]

Like most stuff any one or all need to take the so called oral Torah with a grain of salt. There's something that are true and other things that are false.

[@fokana1]

You should do a show with a Christian about this for their context for fuller conversation

[@HALEIWA7]

Can someone tell me the name of the song playing at the end of this video? I like it a lot but cannot find it on KZbin.

[@ToviaSinger1]

Please request the song at [e-mail]. Be well

[@yourbuddy6421]

So when Yeshua said to them, "Watch out! Guard yourselves from the hametz of the P'rushim and the hametz of Tz'dukim." I know your affliction and distress and pressing trouble and your poverty-but you are rich! and how you are abused and reviled and slandered by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. Take note, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie-I will make them come and bow down at your feet and make them know [without any doubt] that I have loved you.

[@annamariasoprano7212]

So, so true!! Thank you Rabbi

[@jdub2378]

To be honest it’s hard to put doubts aside when it comes to the claim of the oral Torah had always existed... why would the rabbis after the destruction to the temples would have their commentaries from 1000 years ago on the written Torah ?

[@ahammer7000]

As a Dispensational Baptist, I gotta say : Well said!

[@juvilee]

I have a lot respect for dispensationalists; well educated

[@ahammer7000]

@@venio6875 so you expect everyone on the earth to get circumcised, stop eating pork, stop cutting their beards to be accepted by God?

[@ahammer7000]

@@venio6875 what about the psalms and prophets, they were added on?

[@ahammer7000]

@@venio6875 Joshua, judges, kings, etc.. all added added on to God's word by God himself, he even used Aramaic to write Daniel. The Greek new testament could only have been added by God, just as God made the King James Bible for English the universal language of computers and learning. You can deny it but you are only deceiving yourself.

[@ahammer7000]

@@venio6875 yada yada yada- we are communicating in English, the kjv English bible is the foundation of the written English language. The language to become the most advanced in world history, You probably think God has nothing to do with it. 🤔🤔

[@daviedood2503]

How do u think they knew what circumcision was? 😂 One could say - "oh we cut the ear lobe" - "no we cut the fingernail" - "NO! IT'S THE HAIR! No GD wants pain for someone, circumcision is cutting the hair!" Moses was SHOWN what to do and HOW to do it. He got EVERYTHING from HaShem. He didn't have to study 60 years, was instantaneous knowledge that he could remember. Afterwards it became written down. Now WHY they wrote oral laws, I can't remember why. I guess so it wouldn't get corrupted by passing down over the DECADES.

[@leowise206]

A Christian started challenging me that Jesus will do all things with the second coming. I responded with Matthew 24:31 (this generation will not pass etc..). No he didn't answer for the time being, but if he will come with Psalms 118:26 or Luke 19:38 (blessed is he who comes in the Name of the Lord), then I will be toast. He could tell me: "See the Jews didn't convert and that is why the 2nd coming didn't happen!" How do I answer this?

[@leowise206]

@Strava 89 Nevertheless the Christians use it to tell that the Jews have to convert to have the second coming. Or it might be rather from Luke.

[@leowise206]

@Strava 89 I already said that I (kinda) retracted Psalms 118, but what about Luke. Now I understand that Luke doesnt sport even less then weight, but if I can give him a good answer it would be even better.

[@leowise206]

@Strava 89 Good for you and thanks for helping. Gut woch and kesiva chasimah tovah

[@phatvegan1691]

Mishlei - Proverbs 16:22

[@bb1111116]

Leo Wise; I understand your dilemma if you choose to argue with a Christian who is trying to proselytize. (I was a Christian for 10 years but I didn't push my religion on others.) - Getting back to the Gospel attributed to Matthew; at the end of chapter 23 and chapter 24; there are a collection of conflicting predictions which the writer puts into the mouth of Jesus. - If a fundamentalist Protestant Christian missionary tried to convert me (I'm Noahide and my stepfather is Jewish and my mother is a Jewish convert but on this channel the missionaries don't worry about the details. They are trying to convert me.) - Again, if a missionary tried to use Matthew: 23:39 on me, I would ask; who is going to build the Third Temple? Matthew 24:2 predicts the destruction of the Second Temple. Matthew 24:15 says “the holy place” will exist at the End Times. That is the Jewish Temple. Inside the Temple will be “‘the abomination that causes desolation’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel” - This refers to the Second Jewish Temple where the Greek rulers of Israel put statues on and into the Temple. - But the Second Jewish Temple was destroyed and a new one needs to be built so this "abomination" can take place in the future as part of the Christian End Times. * So, there is a contradiction. - The Christian missionary argues; If there are Jews then Jesus cannot return. - But if there are no Jews, then the Third Jewish Temple cannot be built and Jesus cannot return. (One of my Christian ministers said years ago that Jesus could not return unless a Third Temple was built in Jerusalem.) * Another reason why the Jews are not stopping the second coming of Jesus according to the New Testament. Matthew 24:14 says the gospel has to be preached to the whole world. This has not happened. There are still places in the world where a Christian missionary has not preached. * When debating a Christian missionary their argument can never be "toast" (as you put it for yourself). Because the goal of the Christian missionary is to get a conversion. Being consistent and logical isn't the main point for the missionary. - In the 30,000 Christian denominations there is always a counter argument about every Christian Bible question to get that conversion. * My final advice is, don’t be afraid to walk away from a discussion with a missionary.

[@haikuartist4066]

If Jesus is the Messiah, then R. Singer is effectively separating the goats from the sheep.

[@rossanderson5243]

The Sadducees rejected resurrection. That is an absolute mind blower that the Jewish oral Torah developed because of the Christian Bible. It is so interesting to see how views developed from both sides and how reality has come into being by confusion that needed clarification from both sides. As one who is adopted meaning I have an understanding of rejection and acceptance and being born into a world of strangers that I’ve developed a third person viewpoint, and the way I think is about how sides develop their views. I’m adopted into the Coptic Orthodox Christian Church and from that viewpoint we didn’t take on politics so the state was not to have pre- immanence in the faith. The Muslims saw to that anyway. As for other Christian Churches well state control I believe puts political aims as Christian aims and subverted Gods purpose. But I see the difficulty that these state run Christians had in that how could you convey what is an essentially message of love from God that is going to return you back to Him, and the difficulty of other nations who believe in other Gods and always at war with neighbours and themselves. I think it could only be done in the ugly way it was done. There is a viewpoint being made about Jesus being made to look perfect image wise way in the world, well isn’t that the Jews that say they are Jacob (Israel) and not Esau? If they are Esau then it might put reality on a different perspective that they are the firstborn cheated out of inheritance and the associations with it. I believe I have a solution that I would like to give but only to you Rabbi Tovia Singer but I don’t know how to go about contacting you.

[@need2know739]

Dear Rabbi, If I could be so bold to ask you a question that requires your knowledge. "What is the reason for Hashem having 72 Names allocated to him? Are each name a Historical Revelational presentation to the Hebrews over Antiquity? Are they the names that assign significance of past/present requirements for the advancements of The "Connection" to Hashem? I have come to understand in Kabbalistic thinking that each name represents something. Please reply sir for I have the utmost respect of your Opinion/Foresights and am trying to Learn such matters. Shalom/GOD Bless ☝👣🔯

[@motorola1543]

There are more than 72. There are 100s. None are superadded to his atzmus, but the tetragramatton is closest to denoting the nature of the atzmus but remains not superadded. The sefirot are also not superadded but are created

[@need2know739]

Thank-You for replying. I am familiar friend with both the Tetra/Seiferot equation and levels of attainment per "say", I suppose I am trying to figure out the deeper more complex equations behind them? As in, who came up with them?Who assigned the Names to them? What holds the Greater Purpose of them?? Are these questions even allowed?Are there forbidden things one shouldnt ask??? But yet I yearn for such to understand, or what is the Point otherwise to simply go with the flow of it all and never seek the whys? Blessings friend.

[@AliKhan-vz7lj]

It still fascinates me how ppl so similar can have such a massive problem? And how the Holy Quran and the Prophet SAW predicted it. Mind blowing!!

[@AliKhan-vz7lj]

@Abraham Mani are you drunk?? You are as big a racist as Shaitan if you believe that.

[@AliKhan-vz7lj]

@Abraham Mani so premature babies who die have sinned???

[@AliKhan-vz7lj]

@Abraham Mani your a fool if you believe a word of what you say. Your so misguided I’d like to refer to you as Abu Jahl.

[@AliKhan-vz7lj]

@Abraham Mani your not real. If you are , you are not well. Ya ALLAH , thank iou for making

[@springflowerblosomnorris9721]

WOW WOW WOW Adjust your mind and heart to the scriptures. Don't adjust the scriptures according to your corrupted mind and according to your heart desires. One way leads to heaven The other way leads to eternal damnation. In the court of law the judgement is based on the evidence. The scriptures are our best evidence. Our life should reflect our understanding of the scriptures. God has mercy for the ignorant people. Intentional deception is a total different level of punishment.

[@danshumway9031]

Sorry Mr singer but I think you're mistaken about Christians not knowing about these things. Nowadays even the simplest most basic Christian study Bibles explain this extensively. Maybe 50 years ago Chrisyians may not have been as familiar these things but nowadays this information is very readily available. I am43 years old and I was taught these things in my church 20 years ago

[@phoenixmacallan763]

Thank you so much rabbi. How are you doing with your finger?🙏🏻👍🏻

[@michaelgeorge262]

250,000 people celebrate Tel Aviv’s 20th Gay Pride Parade. but you don't see gay celebration in so called holy land . boring discussion

[@promotingkiruv1948]

The volume is completely off. Please fix, thanks so much

[@fidelcatsro6948]

naaaah its working fine here..

[@janishart5128]

Volume is fine here too!

[@promotingkiruv1948]

@@janishart5128 yeah lol it's fine for me now. Yeah idk

[@janishart5128]

@@promotingkiruv1948: Oh, that's good! Yeah, who can figure out all this technology! I'm just listening to another video and the sound, and sometimes the video, keeps cutting out!

[@dmenwatson1954]

Hey promoting kiruv. Can you explain isiah 53 to me pls. Is it talking about Jesus?

[@slowixxxx]

I thought you reject the NT

[@arijackson4592]

“Do as they say just don’t do what they do because they’re awful people” - what this guy says Jesus said “Do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.” -what Jesus actually said. Jesus wasn’t saying anything about Oral law or about how horrible their character was because they were Pharisees. Many JEWISH people at the time did not live by oral law and Jesus called those guys hypocrites too. He was calling everyone a hypocrite and I doubt he was wrong. There isn’t a single religion (christianity and judaism included) that doesn’t have people who preform more than they believe, and he came to address that of ALL people. Be careful Mr. Rabbi or you’ll be perpetrating the same misrepresentation of others that makes all us Christians sooooooo ignorant

[@smodval6793]

Why would Yeshu vouch for the authority of the Soferim and P'rushim if his intention was to create a new religion based upon his being the Anointed King? Answer: He was not the Anointed King and he had no intention of creating a new religion with his person serving as its axis mundi. Why would the church preserve and ignore these verses? These verses clearly demonstrate the folly of replacement theology and antinomianism. If Yeshu is a fictional literary character created by Rome to control the Jews and/or the Empire as a whole, then why have Yeshu tell the people to do and observe whatsoever the Jewish Sages told them to do and observe? Why not simply have Yeshu say, "Obey the dictates of Rome!"...?

[@smodval6793]

@Sam Samuels - I'm just tired of people spinning conspiracy theories when there are clear patterns of history repeating itself, especially where Jewish Messianic movements are concern. One need only look to the Lubavitcher Meshichists to see how quickly a historical figure can fall victim to the cult of personality and be elevated to the status of Boreinu Elokeinu by grief stricken Jews.

[@smodval6793]

@Strava 89 - So, they thought creating a Messiah that vouched for the authority of the Jewish Sages instead of himself was going to do what? I'm trying to follow Atwill's logic here, so don't think that I'm disrespecting you. I just don't see how these verses help the Flavian agenda.

[@smodval6793]

@Sam Samuels - Sam, could you please try to be a little less snarky? I'm trying to wrap my head around why you and the moderator are so jazzed about Atwill. So, Tacitus writes that the fire in Rome during Nero's reign is blamed on the Xtians. That predates the destruction of the Temple. So, when exactly did Josephus pen the "NT"...? Or was Tacitus the Jew-hater in on this conspiracy and lied about there being Xtians in Rome during Nero's reign? When did the first Xtians who bought into this fiction actually arrive on the stage of world history?

[@smodval6793]

@Sam Samuels - No, I read it. It's just so convoluted and so poorly tied together that it doesn't make sense. And it seems to be a rehash of earlier conspiracy theories with new players replacing the old ones. Even other mythicists don't buy into it and they have no "Jesus" bias.

[@smodval6793]

@Strava 89 - So by their fictional Jesus saying "obey the Jewish Sages" they thought that the Jews would say, "Hey! This Messiah that we never saw or heard of sounds really Jewish, so when his predicted 'Son of Man' appears at the time when the Temple is destroyed we should follow him, even if he isn't Jewish?" Do you see why I'm having trouble with this conspiratorial plan and why it didn't work on the Jews? I'm trying here, honestly. This is how I felt reading Atwill the first time. Even if everything he said is true ... it didn't work on the Jews. Rome already had their slaves and citizens bowing to the Imperial Cultus, so why insert their failed Jewish Messiah into the equation?

[@yudirsamakhlouf2955]

Oral Torah is simply the opinions and commentary of the rabbis. So it is the opinion of them and if Hashem wanted such opinions to be considered on par with with written Torah, why not simply have it written? Most of the enslaving and illogical commandments come from the oral Torah

[@Webin4rm]

you can't keep the written Torah without understanding the oral Torah. It's simply not possible. If you believe the Torah was given as an instruction manual for the Jews, then there is no choice but to follow the oral instructions that accompanied the written Torah. Even if it is difficult and constricting at times. It's not that difficult.

[@yudirsamakhlouf2955]

@@Webin4rm I disagree. The written Torah isn’t too difficult or encrypted but very straightforward. The Bible doesn’t make reference to multiple torahs and the oral Torah wasn’t placed in writing until over a thousand years, I believe but I could be wrong like 1500 years. The oral Torah are mostly commentaries and commentaries on those commentaries. It tells me that they are just the opinions of the rabbis. A normal person is perfectly capable of reading the Torah on their own

[@Webin4rm]

@@yudirsamakhlouf2955 please explain how you would know which fruit we are commanded to take on Sukkot without the oral Torah? I can give you 100s of examples. You wouldn't even have any vowels in the Torah. You wouldn't know how to read it.

[@yudirsamakhlouf2955]

@@Webin4rm the commandment in the Torah doesn’t specify which fruit so the rabbis just speculated as to which. And merchants make a lot of money out of it as the fruit they sell is overpriced just because Jews believe it has to be such

[@yohannesephrem9096]

Yahusha or Jesus as the world mistakenly call Him, was an Essene or Galelian Nazarean who came to restore the Law or the precepts of YAH that was lost after the great flood.

[@DaddyKratosOfTheShire]

Righteousness.. yea but does it say knowledge as well?

[@unbiased786]

The New Testament is an interpretation of the old. By Greek writers who tried but failed. Yeshua is free from their beautiful words. But like the Pharisees the church changed the Sacred. Though the Messiah through God's Mercy was sent early, to challenge their corruption. But they planned against God's plan. For the Lord will legthen his days. Read with righteousness towards the Father then you'll understand the Son. Yeshua wanted willing rebellion towards the Romans but to first get the house in order. The Psalms logs his complaint. The covenant is with the righteous not the Jews. Love God with all your heart and on you is no fear. Blessed be His Divine Face.

[@edsanjenis9416]

Jesus knew the oral Torah, Rabbi you, prove Jesus is the Messiah. A big blunder, Rabbi, how can a carpenter know the Tanakh, Torah and oral Torah and a lot oral Traditions without being trained in the Holy Hebrew books and oral traditions.

[@jewmaicanwilliam4349]

Good question rabbi. And if it was true, what position would that leave Judaism in where it concerns everything jews have always believed> just a question to all jews.

[@jamesball979]

Why doesn’t Rabbi ever say the Creators name

[@ManageDeMaia]

We separate his name from all other names, as a show of respect and as acknowledgment of his uniqueness.

[@adellaadams8018]

@@ManageDeMaia HIS Name is sacred!

[@Nudnik1]

HaShem....is what we use.

[@jamesball979]

Leviticus 19:12 and ye shall not swear by my (name) falsely,neither shalt thou profane the (name) of thy God:I am the Lord. How can people keep from this if they keep his name a secret

[@jamesball979]

Deuteronomy 18:19-20 talks about speaking a word in his name no one is using his name

[@johntbelias]

We have entered the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark chapter 10, verse 30 on December 30, 2018 A.D., the Glorious Manifestation of Our King, Lord, and Savior. This comment provided on the 260th day of the 2nd year of the General Resurrection of the Dead. Jesus has returned.

[@psandbergnz]

Edward Palamar, you will be waiting for the return of Jesus until your dying days, for he will never return. He is plain dead like every other past mortal.

[@psandbergnz]

@@johntbelias , you say Jesus has returned. He hasn't! Your book says: "‘Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him." (Rev. 1:7). If he has already come, why did nobody notice? Also read Matt. 24:27-31. Christians will call you a heretic. You will never have evidence; dreams and wishful thinking are not evidence. Time will pass, and you will see that I am right. Remember this comment!

[@psandbergnz]

@@johntbelias , where is your evidence that Jesus has returned? Why are you contradicting your own book, which alleges that his return will be visible to everyone as he comes on the clouds of heaven? You're not thinking rationally! As for Daniel, that book does not prophesy Jesus, and you have no argument that it does.

[@danshumway9031]

Paul definitely wasn't a student of Gamaliel?

[@victorslyvester8977]

Lie

[@ngressel]

According to Jewish law, jews aren't allowed to say something good about an object of idol worship. That's why we won't say anything good about Jesus until he is removed as an object of pagan worship. For example, if a statue is worshipped as an idol, no matter how beautiful it is we can't comment favorably on it. Same with Jesus.

[@ngressel]

No, Israel is a name for "struggles with angel." The angel israel struggled with was that of Eisav, a servant of satan. Satan is a hebrew word that most closely fits saturn.

[@ngressel]

In other words, it means fighter of saturn if you take that step to connect the terms.

[@CHJazzman]

AND...If Christians knew Talmud, then some would be awakened and there would be fewer Christians.

[@Sean-lv6fx]

Nope, I've read quite a bit of the Talmud and many of the Rabbi's in it only solidify the christian understanding of the Tanakh.

[@CHJazzman]

@@Sean-lv6fx Did you watch the video? What exactly is the Christian opinion of Tanakh and Talmud? (it's a loaded question)

[@motorola1543]

@@Sean-lv6fx in the first chamesh dafim of masechet Berakhot they talk about isaiah 53 as referring to Israel. How in the world does the talmud remotely affirm a Christian point of view? Which masechet are you referring to that is supposedly affirming a christian position? Have you studied in kollel or yeshiva?

[@shhiknopfler3912]

@@Sean-lv6fx I thought for a Second, let me Just look up the points you made and explain it. But when you wrote Yoma 73a Sacrifices weren't accepted after Jesus, I know it's a waste of time. Yeah I know it's written 40 years, but the way you wrote it is dishonest, so wasting time. I'm sure you never Studied Talmud, or please tell which Chapter of the entire Talmud have you Studied in full. The things you brought is with little understanding and out of Context, as usual.

[@motorola1543]

@@Sean-lv6fx you seem to forget that on the same dad of masechet sanhedrin it is affirmed that the messiahs name will be Menachem or Shiloh (and some other one I forget but it isnt yeshu). The yezter hara has nothing to do with original sin which is a disgusting and evil doctrine put forth by the notzri apikorsim. Yetzer hara is an inclination which doesnt bring you any condemnation for merely having. It is a desire to sin, not a sin in and of itself. And the urim and tummim werent a catch-all infallible guide to everything. They had the sanhedrin for that. That's the point of the sanhedrin's existence as a supreme body and the reason why the Torah allows for executing a dissenting sage (who goes against the sanhedrin). You seem to not understand some basic principles of reading the talmud. Btw any anthropomorphic descriptions of G-d in talmud are metaphorical. It also says in talmud that G-d wears tefillin. Do you believe that literally, too, you crackhead min?

[@KarlsKronicles]

Seat of Moses. See a Karaite Jew's book, "The Hebrew Yeshua Vs. the Greek Jesus.

[@nickstrickland4751]

Hebrew Matthew says “ The scribes and Pharisees sit in the seat of Moses , therefore all that HE says(as in Moses) hear and obey the word he is referring to Moses, so Yeshuah was saying do not obey the scribes and Pharisees even though they sit in Moses seat because they themselves break Torah, even though the word of God was entrusted to the Jews be careful of what they teach, even though Tovia Singer teaches some amazing stuff and has restored much truth to the word of God he has clearly twisted many Messianic testimonies, the oral Torah that we Messianics criticize Rabbinic Judaism, is the idea that they can make enactments due to tradition that contradicts the Tora. I am a Messianic but I’m also Jew that keeps the Torah but I’m not a Orthadox judiaizer because they will not acknowledge me because I’m I’m Messianic, I do not worship Yeshua, I follow his teachings as my great Rabbi, I call on the name of Yehovah our father in whom Yeshuah made known because Yeshuah is the salvation of Yah, and he is Gods authorized prophet whom Moses spoke of

[@smodval6793]

@Nkck Strickland - You've misquoted the text to suit your agenda. Go back and read it again using an interlinear Greek and English text.

[@nickstrickland4751]

S Modval I don’t need Interlinear I read Greek lol, I guess you didn’t see that I was quoting from the Hebrew Text of Matthew not Greek, but you are probably one of those Christians that don’t even know that Matthew was originally written in Hebrew

[@smodval6793]

@@nickstrickland4751 - Bad guess! I'm a Jew. I'm not an Xtian. What are you? Neo-Karaite? Neo-Notzrim? One of Nehemiah Gordon's followers? Michael Rood? A Sacred Namer? One of the dozens of other sectarians that are using the Shem Tov text as if it were the Hebrew gospel written by Matthew? So why would the Greek Matthew of an antinomian religion preserve a quote wherein Yeshu vouches for the authority of the Soferim and P'rushim? Same question goes for the Atwillians out there.

[@nickstrickland4751]

Neo Karaite notzerim is a good definition, the vouching for the authority may be because western Christianity does have a form of rabbinic judaistic concepts the papacy defiantly liked the Rabbinic idea of sole divine authority, and that idea sprung from Judaism, and Yeshua absolutely condemned such authority, when you entrust all authority to a man you will get into trouble in the end

[@smodval6793]

@@nickstrickland4751 - And the Shem Tov text is all you accept? So, Yeshu is Mashiach, born of a virgin, and Yeshu is HaShem Himself, a lesser HaShem, or part of a Triune Deity, and you're anti-Rabbinic? I'm just trying to get a feel for where you're coming from, because the groups keep splintering into more sects with every passing day and most of them are personality drive like Rood and Gordon (et al).

[@midnightwatchman1]

hmmm he is only half right, the thing it is not necessary to really be familiar with the Oral Torah get the bible because the bible does tell you how to understand what it is saying. I would say it nice tool but hardly necessary and plus there is a lot of rubbish in the Jerusalem Talmud. the writers of the bible also had sense their audience would not necessarily be Jewish

[@insAneTunA]

Santa Claus is the best god there is.

[@phatvegan1691]

Pick a thumb click a THUMB 👍💯👍

[@theburningelement.6447]

Nope thay sure didn't,

[@benitamuzamhindo3750]

With due respect to the rabbi, he does not understand his own bible. There is a theme in the bible that starts after Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating the forbidden fruit. The devil in the form of a serpent deceived Eve and she fell for it. God addresses the problem with Adam and promises a Messiah who would bruise the head of the setpent; in other words destroy him. When Abraham nearly sacrificed his son God stopped and he provided the sacrificial lamb Himself as explained by Abraham. When God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac, His goal was to let Abraham see what God would do for the world through sacrificing his son Jesus Christ. The Jewish sacrificial system i.e. the killing of a spotless lamb as a sacrifice for their sins signified what Jesus would do for them and hence the lamb represented Christ. The messiah is herald in old testament throught the same. The problem is that the Jews misinterpreted the bible and ended up with their own idea of messiah who is not biblical. God's idea of messiah us much more superior because when Christ returns for the second time he will eradicate sin for good and will restore the Garden of Eden and we will live forever with God in a perfect world. On the itger hand, the non messianic Jews are seeking temporary peace. No wonder they rejected and still reject their Messiah. Regardless Christ is coming back as Lord of Lords and King of Kings. My hope is that our Jewish non messianic Jews will see their Messiah in both the old and new testament because the two are inseparable. One simple question: why would 11 of Jesus' apostles die such horrible deaths including Paul who was a zealous non messianic Jew? The rabbi needs to put the entire new testament into context because isolating scripture and then drawing a conclusion on the same distorts the intend message. Christians believe (some) that keeping the law can not be separated from faith. Abraham exercised both. In order for the Law to be kept we need Jesus in our lives. He is the one who transforms us. The old testament Jews failed to keep the Law that is why God kept raising prophets like Jeremiah and Isaiah whom they rejected as false prophets.

[@kobiwolf3839]

You really think that this rabbi that did so much of debates, never encountered with this ideas?... You really think that this rabbi never read genesis or bible? it's ridiculous.

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

@@kobiwolf3839 You can be trapped by your own beliefs, and polluted with unbiblical ideas.

[@achildofthelight4725]

Man created religion from the instructions and teachings by making them laws. Man was already worshiping false gods and idols, when God showed them who thier God was, and how to live as one. As men were seperated for a cooling of period, they came back to more chaos having learnt nothing. GOD made the world, was in the world, and rejected by the ones He made in His image. Throughout the whole Bible is GOD wanting to be the Only Father you will ever need. How will He be known? Who is going to give up thier fleshly dark desires and seek thier spiritual light side, the image of the Father you were made in. Heaven and earth are one together and that is you, seperated when earth follows earth more than the heaven within you. Becoming one as a son of the Father you need to repent... look within and seek the kingdom in you. All the teachings of how to be clean, eat clean etc... is pointing to your spiritual nature, how to remain pure in the light of the Father, how to digest the words of scripture, and how to walk straight, not with a divided hoof in any direction that suits you, eating (digesting information) from scoffers that will pull you backwards instead of forward towards GOD. We are unholy to become Holy when in the Spirit of the Father. As two become one... GOD the Father, you the SON, one HOLY SPIRIT.... Echad. Yeshua came in the name of the Father.... would have been easier if he carried a board above His head saying" GOD is your Saviour " instead of having the very same message as His name. He is the sign pointing you to the Father, to be one in Him. You cannot be in peace without having peace within.... follow him to the Father, allow him to show the way, for he was sent with truth, so you to can also have eternal life in the Father as one, on Earth as it is in Heaven.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

we know for sure Paul lied about Tanakh in the book of Hebrews, even my Hindu cat knows this!! Hebrews (10:5-7), "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God." This is quoted from Psalm 40:6-8a. The author has misquoted. For the Hebrew Old Testament text does not say, "body," but "ears" referring to the idea of obedience, and the Scripture, "to obey is better than sacrifice" (1 Sam. 15:22). 'Ears' is a Hebrew idiom, i.e. "to hear" is to "obey"; the idea of 'body' in the text reintroduces the idea of sacrifice where obedience is sought and contradicts the whole idea alluded to in 1Sam. 15:22! The LXX does not confirm Hebrew's rendering also. It also has the word 'ears'.

[@zd4790]

Takbeer

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

The Septuagint (LXX) says body. There are other places where the new testament authors seem to be quoting the Septuagint.

[@jeanneamato8278]

Boom!

[@janishart5128]

Can we have a translation of what you're trying to say??!!

[@wthnshlo5465]

b’h 🕊

[@promotingkiruv1948]

Techum Shabbos 😂

[@sensibleorange4886]

Its all about blood type babies

[@Sam-dj7qb]

In the Hebrew book of Matthew YESHUA clearly states " the sages and the prushim sit in Moshe's seat. Therefore ,whatever he [ Moshe ] commands you to observe ,that observe and do - but do not follow the takanot and ma' asim of the purshim for they say [they follow Moshe] but they do not do [what Moshe says to do] It is a well established fact that the translators replace "he" with "they" in matthew 23:3

[@inayetvehak]

😂😂

[@dawabrasil]

Judaism without Oral Torah is not Judaism!

[@boxerfencer]

Sadducees were heretics? Tell me Rabi, who were present when God gave the law? Were the pharisees there? No, they weren't, but the priestly class were.

[@leowise206]

Moses was the true pharisee of pharisees! Orthodox Judaism is the Judaism handed over the generations from Moses. So yes, the Pharisees (in being) were at Mt Sinai and accepted the Law.

[@boxerfencer]

@@leowise206 Moses wasn't a Pharisee. For starters, we know from etymology, his name is Egyptian. And considering the Pharisees were a political party which started about the middle of the second century, ~167 BCE, it would take some pretty fancy and disingenuous and dishonest backdating to make Moses a Pharisee. In fact, Pharisee, may mean nothing more than Pharsee, tying the reformed Judean belief to Persia, rather than Sinai, and making Moses the Pharisee a laughable and lofty claim, in more ways than one. In contrast, the priestly classes are indeed illustrated being present.

[@leowise206]

@@boxerfencer Okay so I can make out you are not a Christian or a believing Jew. So we have nothing to exchange. Sorry for having started this. Judaism knows Moses was a pharisee and that is as much as I can help you. Also Christians will agree to this. So all the best and study!

[@boxerfencer]

@Strava 89 yeah? That doesn't mean Pharisees were present nor that Moses was one, as suggested by the other poster.

[@boxerfencer]

@Strava 89 and i should encourage you to read up on history. Pharisee isnt a word for orthodoxy, although I don't disagree people use to that way today. They were a political party that started mid second century, made up of laity scribes and sages.

[@dibarra5461]

Interesting video, however I must say that all your use of the verses in the New Testament is out of context. Yes, we know the Jews are the chosen people of God and we never denied that, and Jesus and the apostles did call the pharisees smart, because they knew the law, the *written law* better than anyone. However, that's different from saying that they knew of laws that weren't written. All the laws Jews practiced before the fall of the Second Temple were written for everyone to see. There was never any law used by the Jews in the New Testament that wasn't written. Traditions, which are many times not written, are not the same as laws. In fact, the proof that Oral Law wasn't a real thing until the fall of the Second Temple is that Jews that lived out of Israel, like in Ethiopia, didn't know anything about an Oral Law when they came back to the Holy Land. God bless you :)