Toxic Takeaways - What Sex and the City Got Wrong

[@suman6679]

The takeaway from sex and the city is Have Miranda's rational thinking, Samantha's confidence and self-love, Charlotte's never losing faith in what you believe attitude and try less to be Carrie that's it Sweetie you are good to go

[@patriciazandilencube4597]

😂💯

[@taniamejia5359]

I read this in Samantha's voice

[@rb5078]

I like Carrie's free spirit, even if she is a terrible person most of the time.

[@laurasalado2429]

I love Carrie! Yes, I am proud Miranda’s character holds the societal values women have fought so hard for; more financial autonomy, assertiveness and just overall control in our lives; with or without a partner. However, I am lucky this show portrays the other parts of being a woman that might not be so accepted in our society today, but still resonate with some women. I’m not proud of it, but I love shoes, or the way a beautiful outfit makes me feel, and I love the feeling of being in love, at times to my detriment. I have been in love with the “bad boy”, and have pushed away the “good guy”. I have made bad financial decisions. Yes, I have grown and learned from those mistakes, but those aspects have been, and still are, crucial parts of my experience as a woman. Two of my favorite parts in the series portray what I loved most about her character. The first, when she returns from LA and points out her apartment is like her; not perfect, but real. My other favorite: when she is at risk of losing her apartment because of the aforementioned poor financial habits, and Big writes her a check, which she rips to pieces. Yes she chases Big, but she has enough pride not to accept his offering, which was a very feminist action indeed. I think each character represents the various parts of being a woman to some women. I like to associate myself more with Miranda’s and Samantha’s flaws which seem to stem from their unyielding independence, and healthy doses of cynicism. Regardless, I am happy for Carrie’s and Charolette’s character’s existence on tv, despite their flaws feeling a bit outdated. They remind us that yes, sometimes women STILL yearn to encompass domestic perfection, or get caught up (to our own demise) in the exciting and flashy parts of dating or fashion, to the point of being selfish at times. Though we as a society of feminist women look to other ideals, at times these feelings/actions DO exist. And there are parts of these two characters that are simply wonderful... like Carrie’s apartment, flaws and all. Yes, as a woman of color I agree the show should have been more inclusive, and don’t consider myself as privileged as the women in the show, but I did enjoy the escapism of these fictional lavish settings and characters. I hope future shows can be more inclusive, and culturally competent.

[@theprousteffect9717]

Carrie represents human flaws, so naturally she's the most unlikable.

[@nicoleono2326]

I will never get tired of The Take‘s take on SATC

[@aussiewanderer6304]

It's the gift that keeps giving.

[@sophiarodriguez3706]

LOL, I was *just* thinking that as the video ended!

[@sorayaguedes5044]

Same my favorite videos

[@zainab1156]

I want more!

[@esiq5932]

Same! Love SATC😻

[@vanessaheine8093]

They did Aidan dirty, making him out to be some pathetic simp, and then someone who cheats on his wife by kissing Carrie in Dubai.

[@mschrisfrank2420]

We do not speak of the second movie.

[@nomadichomebody4230]

And what about Steve having an affair?!

[@cyt8284]

@@nomadichomebody4230 That didn't seem as off-brand. It seemed like something he'd do to tee off Miranda and get her attention.

[@cyt8284]

@@mschrisfrank2420 Right? He had a whole family and was clearly thriving. I highly doubt he's the type to compromise something sacred to be with Carrie's toxic self! It felt like a narcissistic fantasy scene that Carrie dreamed up.

[@meghanwebber4977]

Well, to be fair, Aiden deserved so much more than Carrie (and that whole episode of him having to be nice to Big who crashed their cabin. I'm never going to be over that lol 😒), and whoever he ended up with probably has more in common with him. And appreciates his humor. And handyman quality. And woodworking. And nerdiness. And trust and generousity. And sweetness. And being a dog lover. Carrie is a fool 🤣

[@C.h.e.l.l.o]

In the movie what bothered me so much was Carrie blaming Miranda for Big’s problematic behavior (shocker) but on top of that telling Miranda to forgive Steve for literally cheating on her, I was even more done with her at this point. Like just because you want a toxic relationship and you’re content with that gives you no right to tell people what they should do in their relationship, especially coming from someone who cheated, lied, and literally prioritized toxic men over her owns friends. Could not stand her

[@Kat.Evangeline14]

Carrie looked like a witch hitting Big with her bouquet 😮!

[@mariaignacialeonor]

Same!!!

[@tinycindy2977]

Carrie might be the most unlikeable main character in American TV history 😂

[@M-Cherian]

Seriously can't stand Carrie. Carrie was so narcissistic.

[@sophie2946]

I can’t get over how sexist the movie was to Miranda

[@loboestepario2424]

The problem is that SATC is already a quarter of a century old. Imagine discussing a show from 1955 from a 1980 perspective.

[@Awesomeness-ql8nl]

Its23 years not quarter lol

[@MissYoonyul]

Depending on the context, I can agree with that statement but I still think having a fresh eye on mainstream shows that made history and are an inspiration for newer shows is REALLY important (while reminding ppl WHEN it was made (exactly like in the video)) We're not talking about someone tweeting something dumb 10 years ago, we're talking about problematic content that is easy to access for anyone and is still portrayed as an iconic show

[@chokolat762]

It is exactly what should be done! It is a series that is still relevant and it is completely necessary to critically analyze the media we consume, especially a show that is so influential as Sex & the City

[@sweetrain50]

Exactly

[@Teacher-Thayse]

The thing is it was problematic even when it was on air back then. Desservice!

[@AgnessaMo]

I can't believe how everybody is (rightfully) infuriated with the bisexuality thing, but glosses over the episode where a woman talking about her violent, abusive relationship is presented as annoying, and the said relationship's problem is solved with them getting a dog

[@toomuchinformation]

Which one was that?

[@AgnessaMo]

@@toomuchinformation No, it was a character that only appeared in 1 episode, s02e02. But the message there was clear - your husband is violent? Redirect his anger towards a dog and you'll be happy

[@toomuchinformation]

@@AgnessaMo Yikes. They DEFINITELY wouldn't get away with that now.

[@noravega9376]

OMG I KNOW! I was so shocked by that episode, like the dude was literally 4 seconds away from hitting his wife, my go.

[@KishBish]

Susan Sharon's husband.. I didn't think he was violent.. I just thought he was a dick..

[@lynnevetter]

Miranda wasn't taking care of Steve's "difficult" mother.. The woman had dementia. Miranda found her eating from the garbage on the street sidewalk. That was Miranda accessing another side to herself and becoming a more complete person. She was wonderful in the last season of S&TC. God, that episode was so emotional. The word toxic should be no where near that episode.

[@Femmagorgon]

Right?! I’m not sure why Miranda being caring is seen as a bad thing. Just because she is the career woman on the show doesn’t mean she can’t have more depth. I love when she helps Steve’s mom.

[@spj4you]

I agree. And the whole summary of making an independent woman less so because she chose to have a family and make compromises for them is also dumb... It was precisely her choice - and character development - to find balance with what she's chosen for her life (since they explicitly showed us how she chose to have Brady in the first place).

[@manicpanic3544]

Yes, she was giving of herself. She was finally doing something for someone else without any rewards coming to her. She was showing real love to Steve, not the Hollywood sweeping dramatic romance that people are all too accustomed. Real love is being there for the ones you love and whatever that looks like.

[@evapaiz596]

yes i agree 100%

[@MademoiselleMarrett]

Yes! That was one of the best episodes that and when Miranda's mother dies and they all show up for the funeral

[@kaley7940]

“Was it really so progressive” I can answer that real quick. Yes it was, FOR THE TIME. Everything should be looked at in the context of its time period, and while not progressive by today’s standards it was def progressive back then

[@kaley7940]

“Everything seems to come back to relationships” it’s called SEX and the city that’s why

[@Femmagorgon]

Yeah, exactly. There’s a huge difference between the standards of the late 90s/early 00s than now.

[@JoeNoshow27]

I personally believe both perspectives are valid. The show is both progressive for its time and unprogressive by today's standards. One is free to focus on either. In this case, The Take focused on the latter.

[@laurenr7545]

The narrator chats about and acknowledges this just this at the end :)

[@ici.charlie]

THANK YOU.

[@juliannehannes11]

I'll never get over Charlotte dumping the most perfect guy who checked every box just because he couldn't kill a mouse. Talk about high standards.

[@sarcasticallyrearranged]

She dumped the other man who wanted to desperately marry because his taste in dinnerware patterns was different than hers!

[@tinycindy2977]

​@@sarcasticallyrearranged yep exactly that's the one that haunted me the most and the mouse guy was a close second 😂

[@sarcasticallyrearranged]

@@tinycindy2977 good to know that it wasn't just me who thought she was way too picky!

[@Yusheesan]

@@tinycindy2977 There is nothing wrong with not wanting to kill Jerry.

[@parriekeet5511]

The Russian literally killed a mouse for her and she didn’t want him either 😂

[@rosalinddances2890]

The worst of the worst, were the episodes where Miranda becomes a single parent, and all the weird cliches and misconceptions, and how she is treated by her so called friends. No empathy, no focus on how awful it is for women who to bear this burden with their single friends, and their lack of emotional support. There needed to be much more about this

[@inescastellano7960]

The "gay best friend" trope deserves its own video analysis.

[@Mariaacetica]

YESSSS PLSSS

[@galeritsu5939]

I can't like this comment. It's 69 likes.

[@1MegArbo]

I think they have. They already did the "Bury Your Gays" trope. If they haven't done the gay best friend, they should.

[@GloriaFlores-to3cj]

Abso-f@@@ing-lutely

[@akastardust]

Yeah, that was cringe even back then. Poor Stanford.

[@cui8789]

"He's going to be the next Donald Trump" Man, that line aged terribly.

[@EditedAF987]

Considering his character in Doctor who is a trump parody I’d say it actually aged somewhat well

[@abhikumar4913]

IFKR! hahaha

[@camcat26]

Neither did Trump’s cameo

[@naivenitara]

Right?!? 🤮

[@ringwe]

So Carrie is the next Melania, right?

[@cristianaestima2674]

“Bisexuality doesn’t exist” Me: ok then * disappears*

[@jessjess23brooks89]

We got Thanos snapped.

[@trinaq]

Ah, the 90's were a different time. It's Cringy to look back on these episodes which oh so casually reject the notion of bisexuality or pansexuality.

[@JessAwesome]

Noooo come back!

[@sita1993m]

I...I don't feel so good

[@fockingreat1125]

Will & Grace was a big offender lol, remember the episode where they're trying to see if a dude is gay or straight, because he keeps flirting with both of them? I was yelling at my tv lmao

[@Ursfrndlyneena]

I disagree about Mirand's story though. It was wonderful. Miranda works hard for her success (in her personal and professional life). Her moving to Brooklyn and taking in her sick mother in law shows the depth in her character that I'm sure even Miranda was not aware that she was capable of.

[@thegreenskittle]

I just wanna say Miranda is imo the best character. She's smart and just such a loyal friend. I think 2 things I admire about her is 1. she's the only one who REALLY appreciates a man for who he is. She loved Steve despite him earning less as a bartender while she was a high-power lawyer. The other 3 may pay lip service and SAY they love men for who they are, but they all ended up w/"powerful" men (at least Charlotte was honest about wanting to marry rich, which I can respect her for). The 2nd thing is, does anyone notice Miranda ALWAYS calls a situation accurately?? She hated Big, She didn't want Carrie moving to Paris b/c she realized it was not in Carrie's best interest, she liked Berger but supported Carrie's decision to break up, and the most impressive thing - I think she was the first to "okay" Harry when she watched him try to dance with Charlotte at Bitsy's wedding. Looking back, she was an incredible judge of human character!

[@triphophoney2981]

Yeah...too bad she's now a Karen.

[@mbreeze101]

@@triphophoney2981 gag. misuse of Karen.

[@weixin9270]

@@triphophoney2981 shame that she had a lobotomy in the last 10 years and now she can’t think straight.

[@alltheflavors9673]

Yes she was the only one to get her money from her talent and hard work. The other three where just goldiggers.

[@MaxDoll]

@@alltheflavors9673 Samantha was not a goldigger. She was a self-made career woman.

[@ndiekwere6027]

I do not think miranda was less independent by marrying Steve or carrying for his mother; I think the show for once showed all too real what marriage may entail, looking after the elderly relatives, moving away from Manhattan which was much too expensive for the space required to have kids etc on what I assume was mostly Miranda's wage.

[@Ag.mar.]

Yeah, I think accepting to move to Brooklyn showed the lessening of Miranda's classism (which was the main reason not to move there, for what I can remember). Also, working more than 55 hours a week is not healthy either for a man or a woman 🙄.

[@erikavasquez914]

I never understood why they moved to Brooklyn! Since Steve had opened up his own bar I figured that this translated to him finally getting into the same tax bracket as Miranda. I never thought about it that way! Now it makes total sense! Thank you lol

[@JessAwesome]

I really need the "angry black girls" trope to stay in the past. It's old, and annoying.

[@toomuchinformation]

As well as that I'm finding that dark skinned BW seem to be getting erased from roles (and getting the angry/sassy black woman part, rarely the romantic lead). Now all you seem to see are light skinned/biracial women who are meant to represent "black"women. Dark skinned black men are still common of course. Check out the cast list of "Easy" on Netflix.

[@themoonkeeper271]

It’s not just angry black woman. It was angry non-white woman. Both the lesbian (latina) and the maid (Asian) were portrayed as angry and crazy. As if only white women are rational beings and other women are less than

[@ndapandulaipinge790]

@@toomuchinformation Yes I noticed that while watching the show.

[@FilthyBitchGunClub]

Isn't it just a part of it though? People pinning a label on something and then dismissing it. Separation created by the people...it's a thing, I mean, if they're angry white women, give them a _"Hi, My Name is Karen"_ sticker and toss 'em, right? Like one, like all, a personOR GROUP can dismiss entire _groups_ this way, hell, entire _countries_ ...get them infighting until there's only two sides, both right _and_ wrong, both with more in common than they can see due to the barricade of assumptions...OH, sorry, too late.

[@MiniM69]

Your argument falls a part when you take into account the power imbalance between a Karen and a trope of any other group. As seen since time immemorial, entitled and aggrieved white women have wrought untold damage on those they perceive as inferior. They’ve literally gotten black people lynched, fired and arrested for the audacity of existing in the same space and time.

[@maggie5122]

It hasn’t aged well obviously but it’s a hell of a time capsule . Still love it

[@mariarosemarie]

Yeah. There will inevitably be things that we believe right now that will be seen as toxic in 20-40 years as well. It's how time and society works, but we can still enjoy it and find the good in it!

[@Aster_Risk]

@@mariarosemarie Absolutely! I love this show, but recognize the fact that it's dated. There's a lot that I at 30 cringe at, but didn't quite understand was a problem at 13.

[@evasetina1529]

It has aged well. 20 years later young people still watch it and the fashion is still fashionable. Also the content is still relevant to this day. The only thing that challenges the show nowadays is the woke politically correct individuals who seem to cherry pick and find the smallest things in the show that only they perceive as problematic.

[@shannonceleste5557]

@Eva Šetina please don’t be a troll on The Take’s comment section 🥰

[@bouncyshak]

Feel this way about Gone With The Wind!

[@Kim715xd]

I like Miranda’s ending and I don’t think the take away is toxic. She choose that Manhattan was not more important than family, showing she has grown and is even less materialistic than the others. And she took care of her mother in law even though of the past because she was mentally ill, showing compassion and empathy. They showed that besides that she is a bad ass working woman, that she has a caring and has soft personality without her giving up her career. She wasn't less hard working, so she doesn't get it all like Carrie given to her by a man. She gave it all, showing that as a woman you don’t have to pick career or a family. So in that way she had it all, all the stuff that isn't based on shallow, materialistic things. The things that Carrie gets.

[@zoerphl]

why do I feel like this is Kim Cattrall commenting!?

[@mccartneys15]

Yes I think she got the best ending and I love it for her 😭

[@mollymole7]

I always thought Big was actually extremely sincere with Carrie. He set his boundaries and unlike her, he took his job very seriously, which is a positive thing. He was divorced and told her that love could end. He was realistic, she was desperate and deluded and projected her fear of dying alone on him. Carrie was actually the toxic one for him, pushing his boundaries and bullying him and ganging up on him for not being what she childishly wanted him to be.

[@rozzeyb.3350]

This is such a refreshing perspective! It's very true and I love it!

[@jujubean8870]

When did Carrie "not take her job seriously"? Bad take.

[@missmew3499]

@@jujubean8870 that wasn't what was said. The OC is saying this due to when Mr Big had to go to Paris, and Carrie made it about her. Mr Big was always honest with his expectation and yet Carrie simply wouldn't accept it and constantly pushed for more. She would then make him tje bad guy when she didn't get her way. Did you even watch the show.

[@alim.9801]

This is a really interesting take, I've never heard this before!! I can see what you mean, he was pretty dang clear with her

[@brownhairedgirl23]

i agree that carrie had so many flaws regarding her toxic addiction to Big, but you’ve gotta realise that he was also sending mixed signals as a classic emotionally-unavailable and avoidant person. i could name pointless examples of the times he was patronising and narcissistic. i really wished that at the end of the first movie where he had cold groom feet and cancelled their wedding through a phone call, that carrie could’ve realised that she no longer WANTED (let alone NEEDED) that kind of completely traumatising and harmful relationship anymore.

[@tashibalampkin8555]

Yo. This video was great. Bisexual people exist and black women are more than angry people. Also I love the idea of having a fairy tale romance. I want that.

[@KellyClement]

Why were all the Straight Men screwed up or Useless, and the Gay Men knew Everything?

[@1MegArbo]

Who doesn't? But we need to realize that it was created in Hollywood.

[@boyfriendforevvv]

@@1MegArbo fairytale romances are over 4000yrs old (beauty and the beast) and prob older so no it was not created in Hollywood

[@1MegArbo]

@@boyfriendforevvv The nonsense that most people are swallowing as valid relationship material was created in Hollywood. Grim's were created for adults. Yes, really. Disney sanitized them. Plus, hundreds of years ago, most marriages were arranged, at least for the upper classes.

[@Generalfund]

To have that you need to give the nice guy a shot and quit chasing the 'bad boy' that treats you like shit...

[@lb-yo8ro]

The bisexuality episode angered me so much, it was so disrespectful and I was only 14 when I watched it, even I knew those views were backwards

[@marialainez5567]

To think Cinthya Nixon Is bisexual herself and had to endure that

[@MsMinoula]

Yeah like all bisexuals are hippies that constantly exchange partners in the same group..please

[@annajohansson7116]

Same, didn't like it back then.

[@pLanetstarBerry]

Blegh, that episode came out a little bit after I figured out I was bi. It ended up being the episode I happened to watch when giving the show a try. Decided I wasn't missing out on anything and it more or less kept me in the closet another three years.

[@idajohannewahl9718]

I'm bisexual and I thought they must be right 🙃

[@sierrasavvy]

The only thing I disagree with is I really loved Miranda’s character development. She was still herself at heart, cynical, tough, and independent. But everyone grows and changes, probably especially so as their family grows so I didn’t see it as a bad thing.

[@marikarembetissa4870]

I agree. She didn't lower her standards, she just learned that opening up, giving and belonging doesn't make you weak.

[@LondonCityGirl]

I have to agree. I like to think of myself as a strong independent woman but I have a husband and a newborn and maintaining a family on top of a career is a lot of work and requires an equal amount of time and dedication. There’s nothing wrong in choosing to have both worlds but I feel that society as a whole tends to overlook and minimise the workload involved in maintaining a relationship and raising children. And you can’t always live for yourself if you’ve taken on the responsibility of a family - you need to consider their wishes and aspirations as well as your own. Just my two cents 😁

[@mariak9802]

Agreed! She found love and started a family on her own terms.

[@raet9974]

Agreed. I loved Miranda's development. The Take has done a few videos about Miranda's ending being depressing and betraying.

[@cv8499]

@@raet9974 I agree. I didn't think Miranda's ending was depressing or betraying. She's still who she always was, but she just made room for other people in her life. And Steve wasn't lowering her standards. For one thing, by the time they got back together at the end, he owned a bar and was doing great. And with the exception of Blare Underwood's character, Steve was the nicest, funniest, most thoughtful, down-to-earth guy she ever dated. Plus he's good in bed, he's a good father, and she loves him. How is that a downgrade? I mean, she dated quite a series of losers. After all those dudes, Steve looked pretty damn good to me. Yes, he did cheat on Miranda once, which sucks, but he also admitted it, apologized profusely, and agreed to marriage counseling. So Miranda ends up with a house in Brooklyn with a backyard, partnership in her lawfirm, a kid, a loving romantic relationship, and close friends. I'd say she did all right for herself.

[@NaomiCantora]

This show came out when I was young so I wasn’t allowed to watch it but being older now, I’m just now watching all seasons on Prime and i couldn’t believe how relatable so many situations they go through were to me. Being single you deal with so many different situations that I felt the show gets spot on. So many scenarios that are 100% relatable in regards to being a single women and independent so I was confused at the end of this video when this narrator says “if It still feels completely relevant than something would be wrong” and I’m sitting here trying to think ok what exactly is wrong then? Bc I do find it extremely relatable but is that different than relevant? I’m also a Latina and idk the show never offended me. I just see it as a fun, relatable show that had some weird racial things but I feel so many movies and shows and the media in general is like this that I don’t really pay attention to it but rather just enjoy it for what it’s supposed to be. TBH I wish more shows were like this nowadays.

[@reikun86]

For some reason, my mom used to let us watch it with her. We were still in high school when the show wrapped up.

[@susannpatton2893]

​@@reikun86 trying to smarten you up to situations

[@nyuchu]

I tried watching the show for the first time a few years ago online, and there were SO many moments where I was left scratching my head like, "really?" I hated Carrie's relationship with Mr. Big, it was so incredibly toxic and I had to stop watching around the part where he was supposed to get married but then ended up cheating on his fiance with Carrie, wtfffffff

[@entertainmentjunkie]

She was his wife actually but yea they’re toxic

[@alltheflavors9673]

The show is about the goldigger's fantasy to step on everything and everyone to get the big money. And for that you'll need expensive shoes and bags and etc. It's an infomercial for goldigger's made by the marketing departments of big brands. Who else could glorify spending 30k on shoes alone while not having a home, and being the side piece of a millionaire for 6 years?

[@hungoverjesus1891]

You should do toxic takeaways about Glee 😂 they do this bi erasure thing too while being touted as progressive and diverse

[@fockingreat1125]

Jeez it's just so infuriating to see this kinda thing lol

[@Aster_Risk]

Yep. They did a lot of progressive things for 2009, but there was a lot of problematic stuff!

[@awfulwoman]

God that show shafted every POC. No one got their deserved depth and it hated Bi people into even the later seasons.

[@t.fairuz29]

That show by itself is a curse on the world and I'm not talking about the deaths.

[@hungoverjesus1891]

@@awfulwoman same it made me so mad.

[@ahwgjw]

also every character lives in a vacuum, except for a few moments that are an exception nobody talks about their families, the past, their childhoods. I don't find realistic that Charlotte's family dont have an opinion about she changing religions or that only one of their parents have a side story (when Miranda moms dies) do they have siblings? Who are they? cousins? aunts? what kind of teenager were they? Even Steve's mom have more of an impact that any of the four main characters family members/friends convined. I mean where is their personal worlds? I never felt it was a good show because it lacks that and without that it gets old, cliché and boring easily.

[@minerva_luna]

Spot on!

[@AgnessaMo]

Well, Charlotte's brother existed only so Samantha could have sex with him, so there's that... I know that the show aimed at "friends are your real family", but I completely agree with you that it was lazy worldbuilding

[@mirelaatanasova6705]

i also missed stories about their past,families,childhoods etc. but then i came across an inerview with Darren Star who said that this was done intentionally because they wanted to focus on their friendsip,their relationships with one another and the topic of friends as family :)

[@sierrasavvy]

That’s true. I think about this a lot. One of the things I liked about the Carrie Diaries was it brought her family into it as the main story, however I honestly kinda see the prequel series as something all on its own rather than actually Carrie Bradshaws life story.

[@Aster_Risk]

Apparently that was a conscious choice. I read articles and some info in a book I have about the show. They didn't want to drag in the girls' families. They did it a few times and didn't like it.

[@tulipchic34]

That whole dating a black guy storyline was cringeworthy

[@nordette]

Lol I cant even watch it, its so bad. I always have to skip it

[@reng935]

Yes, the sister was so nice and then she was suddenly so angry/racist what

[@toidean633]

The worst episodes were Miranda and Blair Underwood's character. He was way too sexy for her! I couldn't watch them kiss because it seemed too forced🤷 p.s. Charlotte was a racist imo

[@sunshinefalls]

Tbh there are people that have the mindset of the sister. However its kinda unfair for her to decide who her brother loves or chooses to be in his life. And it shows him having a weak character to let his sister have that much power over his decisions. Over all i didn’t like that episode. And even if the sister gave them her blessing sam would just grow tired of it and leave him anyways, since thats her M.O.

[@nordette]

@@sunshinefalls ya you can find truth in every stereotype that doesn't make it good or compelling writing. The whole episode was gross. Everytime they added people of color they were always gross stereotypes or caricatures except maybe the sports doctor that Miranda dated but even that was kind of just meh

[@ApoloniaJones1976]

Steve only ever wanted to be the best he could for Miranda. He wasn’t threatened by her earning power - he was ashamed of his lack of it.

[@silvanamariaga2281]

It's unfair to judge a groundbreaking show from the nineties and early noughts through the lenses of the 2020's, though. At the time, it was great!

[@DinaPlotch]

They absolutely made mistakes, (race, sexuality, etc) but this show was created over 20 years ago, and society was way less aware/tolerant/progressive than it is today. Remember, this was the era when Ellen kissing a woman on TV made national news. So I think we need to just appreciate the ways in which it was progressive (and there were many) while also acknowledging the ways in which it wasn't.

[@graceelaine698]

Exactly. The opinions expressed regarding those “mistakes” are obviously coming from younger women or people who don’t remember or didn’t experience being single and 30 something in the 90’s. Times have changed. The show was brilliant!

[@mariamejawara]

they are aware of it but it doesn’t mean people can’t still point the flaw of the show

[@videoettaceo8900]

@@mariamejawara yeah yeah.. Blah blah blah

[@mariamejawara]

@@videoettaceo8900 12 years old response

[@chet1921]

How old are you?

[@lh9591]

Can you analyze race and sexuality in Seinfeld? I always found the episode of Elaine in a interracial relationship interesting. She thinks he’s black, he thinks she’s Latina, they’re both respectful of that, but then they find out they’re white, and are ok of that too.

[@jal45100]

Yessss I love that episode lol

[@jonathannagel7427]

I always thought the real zinger was them agreeing to go to The Gap.

[@lh9591]

Desert Mermaid another episode which would be great to examine. It shows Jerry’s ignorance, and he tries to be more careful of his word choice, but casually racist words and phrases are/were the norm in American English language, which is what I really think that episode is trying to point out. I just googled “Indian giver” and the suggested PC word is “ungifting,” a word I have never heard before. I also think the show does a pretty good job of pointing out Jerry is in the wrong with the cigar statue. Elaine scolds him. When Jerry asks the Asian mailman where the Chinese restaurant, the mailman asks Jerry how would he feel if someone walked up to him asking “Hey American Joe where is your hamburger hotdog place?” pointing out the fact, that, no, a white average American Joe does not share these experiences.

[@lh9591]

Desert Mermaid I also want to clarify my response is not meant to tell you it isn’t offensive. I have no place telling you or anyone else what is or is not offensive. Just my take that it does villainize the behavior.

[@tyrant-den884]

@Lindsey Bailes I love the two different reactions to the show's finally.

[@konraddygudaj257]

"The most exciting, challenging, and significant relationship of all is the one you have with yourself. And if you can find someone to love the you, you love, well, that's just fabulous." - Carrie

[@trinaq]

Precisely, I couldn't have said it any better myself! 💞 You're the person who has to spend your whole life with yourself, so it's important that you get to know and love yourself well.

[@konraddygudaj257]

@@trinaq I agree.

[@mirianalajtman7728]

Femininely Selfish

[@camilatz4956]

* While answering her boyfriend's call*

[@jesscline9661]

@@camilatz4956 facts 🤣

[@ruthdederick7754]

9:38 Samantha is dressed worse than I could imagine! Knowing now how Kim Kattrall was isolated from the other girls with petty, mean girl stuff from SJParker, makes so many scenes change in meaning.

[@alim.9801]

I really relate to Steve with the financial stuff. I grew up MUCH poorer than my partner and it honestly does lead to stress sometimes (mostly for me). He's very understanding and communicative about it tho which is great.

[@gabiluch87]

Carrie is supposed to be so free and open minded but she can't get her head around bisexuality 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@spj4you]

I've never understood this characterization of Carrie as 'free and open minded' about sex. She just writes about her experiences. That's it. That's her column. The fact that she's even talking about her dating and sex life in a newspaper is what's considered progressive, but I don't think that was supposed to extend to her character's sexual understanding or exploration.

[@mahoganimedia]

i never saw carrie that way ... samantha was the only free and open-minded one.

[@gabiluch87]

@@mahoganimedia I never saw Carrie that way either but thats what I feel was what they wanted to portray her as by giving her the narrative voice..

[@georgebernard5783]

Free and open minded until it’s the Guy who’s Bisexual

[@Zeverinsen]

@@georgebernard5783 People are still like this

[@nicolegulino]

big is not even toxic. carrie was totally insane at the beginning of their relationship when he set reasonable boundaries. the only reason he turned toxic for real was due to retcons, carrie being an unreliable narrator, and the writers for some reason always wanting to prop up carrie as the protagonist who's always right and never hold her accountable for anything.

[@zkxnkj534]

I agree. I recently gave the show a rewatch and was cringing throughout their scenes. Carrie definitely came off as completely unstable in that relationship

[@JP-ve7or]

I was surprised how much I sided with Big when I recently watched season 1 again. Carrie was just too much.

[@sofiamargarita31]

at the beginning big wasn’t very toxic but rather someone who needed time and boundaries to open up but as i kept watching recently as the show goes on he really becomes more and more toxic i mean he literally coerced her into cheating left and came back into her life just to frustrate her but keep her interested failed to define their relationship time and time again all of it basically preventing her from moving on so that he could have her when he wanted which what ultimately happens so it’s not really a fairy tale ending and shouldn’t be propped up like that yah Carrie is crazy and invents issues to create drama in her relationships but Big is not innocent and if anything he validates and strengthens her paranoia about love and relationships

[@nicolegulino]

@@zkxnkj534 right especially when she demanded to meet his mother after she just started seeing him and then proceeded to STALK THEM AT THE CHURCH behind his back like a psycho. I'm shocked big didn't get a restraining order. There's no way they would've ended up together in real life.

[@nicolegulino]

@@JP-ve7or for real he would've never given her another chance after that first stalking event in season one at the church

[@clashfan2875]

As a woman who watched this show in real-time with my group of female friends, I often think people miss the point of it. We were in the same age bracket as the women in the show to start with and not a single one of us thought they were idols. I remember the conversations and in some cases major disagreements we would have over the show. Mostly though we just liked to laugh about some of the similar situations they often found themselves in that mirror our own experiences. They were never seen as "life" lessons or women we wanted to emulate. We knew they were deeply flawed and fairly one dimensional.

[@lexfassbender9685]

Warning: A bit of an essay coming. While I really appreciate the video for demanding accountability, I've rewatched the show lately and honestly believe it's brilliantly written. These four characters are absolutely contradictory, judgamental at times and compassionate at others, toxic for moments and wonderfully nurturing in others, much like real humans. The way they each saw the world was so layered and so in tune with their back stories, rather than get mad I just applaud the complexity that they showcase: Carrie had no father and constantly searched for the ultimate male figure in a childish, demanding way within her delusional depiction of things, but when she hit rock bottom she was aware of this, and owned these mistakes when they hurt other people, even choosing to do so. She exposed herself to mirrors other than her own and grew as a result. By the time Berger came along, she was such a mature, warm, understanding partner that it really put into perspective what a pitiful, toxic man Berger was and how far she had come. Realistically, sometimes she fell back into her old patterns, yet continously learned something new each time, and ultimately took accountability for her side once again when apologizing back to Big for putting the wedding before him. Carrie was her own enemy, yet constantly strived to become a better friend, partner, and person. Charlotte rather than become high class was always within that bubble, and her expectations were naive, judgmental, classist and heternormative. Yet she married a man she wouldn't have looked twice at before, begged him to take her back when he put his foot down at the way she mistreated him, and converted to honor his religious beliefs with the upmost respect. Despite her rampant privilige, she had absolutely no qualms in adopting a child from a different race at any point, even when she had married the old money prince that seemed perfect for her. She embraced her sexuality within a world that shamed her for it, remaining true to herself and recognizing when she wasn't. She was questionable at many times and quite the male chauvanist, but you could see that the way she was raised and her heart were in constant conflict. To me, Charlotte was a much better person than she was raised to be. Miranda had a mother that pushed such conventional expectations on her that she went the other way, she was fundamentally good, brilliant and awake regarding true feminism. This led her to shut herself out from things that perhaps she would have wanted if they hadn't been forced on her, but the tools of self-preservation she acquired weren't the best. Steve, childish, flawed and pure, reached through the cynical armor and into that wonderful vulnerability she guarded. He saw her as a person before he saw her as a woman, and healed her from the pattern of being sexually attracted to men that put her down in some way or another, as some form of liberation for how alert she had to be. This could have turned dangerous, as we saw with the asshole that mistreated everyone around him 'until he made partner'. Of course she still had to figure out how to do family her way back then, and that led to disappointment, but she still realized she truly wanted one each time. Miranda didn't betray who she was, she expanded it. I wish we had gotten to know more about Samantha's back story, but she was probably the less flawed one. A truly spectacular human being that was brilliant and courageous enough to handle herself in an incredibly competitive city, challenged herself at every turn and in every aspect, while only boosting, encouraging others and sharing her every privilige. She gave the respect that each partner deserved at each turn, accordingly. Still she wasn't perfect, as she oversexualized a few men (like the dildo model) but she still didn't lead them on. When she acted "beside herself" when Richard cheated on her, was after being communicative, vocally trusting her partner to hold her and offering an easier option, too. Then, her relationship with Smith was truly wonderful to watch at every turn. She was a fiercely loyal warrior with the deepest, most tender and generous heart. A true gem and a masterclass of self-love-- we should all attempt to find our inner Samantha. The way they handled race, sexuality, and queerness was still layered for the time, it actually makes me quite happy. To me (as I can't speak for the black community) Robert was successful, kind, and smooth which could have been seen as overcompensation for the lack of people of color, but then upon rejected he turned into a jerk-- human, layered. Who knows what triggered that? But it was there for the actor to play and it de-sexualized him. Samantha was able to take race out of the equation when the man she dated put her sister first, confronting her woman to woman. And yet, her sister shed a light on how guarded the black community needed to be, and his brother only confirmed this, which removed the "angry black woman" stereotype. As a queer man to me it was quite evident that Standford showcased how hard it is to navigate yourself within the ridiculous, superficial standards of the gay community, and this was very well scripted within his token gay friend moments, which gave him depth. Anthony was bitchy and larger than life and yet not feminine, which was definitely a first! Their bond didn't happen overnight, they couldn't stand each other at first, as they were victims of their environment. Yet, they overcame it. And for bisexuality to be even in the show was incredible, and the way Carrie reacted was the way most women did back then, but then Samantha countered that. Samantha was always there to showcase how ignorant the others were regarding every spectrum, and she only referred to the trans people as ladies, it was only Carrie that called them half men. That's within the same show, which tells me that they had the information, but they chose to remove it from the characters that didn't have it. There is plenty wrong with the characters for sure, but there is a plenty wrong with humans. I honestly believe that was the point. And for the era, humans over archetypes was wildly progressive. I appreciate the disclaimer by the end!

[@SolkaKonfetkO]

Wow! Yes!

[@BeautyBehindTheScience]

This show was very progressive for its time and not only this. These four characters represent the four facets we all do carry with us, to a certain extent. The more provocative episodes are actually a critique towards the dynamics in society. And their friendship is truly special. It wouldn’t be called S&TC if they weren’t addressing all these themes we like to talk about, wouldn’t it? Most importantly, we can still derive lessons by rewatching it to this day!

[@clararob9869]

It was the 00s we had just come out of the 90s where heterosexual sex was just about no longer taboo. The show is of its age and back then it was cutting edge, 20 years later we have moved on, grown and become more educated. We have come a long way since the 80s let's celebrate that rather than trash it.

[@martinaluca112]

Exactly,and then they were not in their 30’,i mean they were but a little bit older,there were 35 when it started and 40 when it finisched

[@mahogany_honey]

I was thinking the same.... this was of it's time..it's now a different time

[@withinwithout6263]

Yes, exactly. In 20 years’ time the culture defining tv shows of today will also be viewed as outdated, not progressive enough, and problematic.

[@clararob9869]

@Anne Day Bitch you clearly are not an adult, far, far from it. Its fine though, my youth was far more fun than yours, my peers were more talented, my music more varied and had artists that could actually sing with talent, my fashion more cutting edge, my supermodels more beautiful and talented, friends without anxiety and not self obsessed, a childhood where I was a child and not sexualised, where I was free to leave the house and play with other kids, majority of politicians with integrity, films with narratives and social conscious, jobs with security, ability to purchase a home at a reasonable price, nightclubs/raves where all colours/sexual orientation came together to dance, respect for others opinions, I could go on. What you got narcissism, tik tok, everyone thinking they are special with "anxiety", attitude problems, self entitlement, the Kardashians (ha ha ha), living for "likes" from strangers, eating disorders, no sense of humour and cancel culture. Your generation literally have NO new ideas which is why you do not have your own fashion or music genre. The 50s had rock and roll, 60s soul, 70s disco, 80s punk, 90s rave , 00s pop/rnb and then nothing! You lack creativity and individuality which is why you "shit" on everything and everyone. As a generation you have a serious deep seated insecurity and see the nuance in absolutely nothing. Go back to making a tik tok "contouring" your face to make you look fake or begging for free stuff cos you have 1000s followers. Shit on things from my generation all you want, we were living in a real imperfect world, rather than a fake, superficial, phoney "online" instagram life. I pity you, your childhood and youth are total shite and toxic AF. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[@lexirodriguez8112]

@@clararob9869 girlie u angry & for what its not that big a deal its the internet move on

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

What did Sex and the City do wrong? How about Carrie Bradshaw as an entire whole?

[@miriamcorona2361]

Her and Charlotte were definitely the worst. It's almost unbearable how Carrie and her opinions were at the center of the world

[@natalieshannon7659]

Carrie and Bigs toxic relationship. That was awful. The message it showed of not wanting a nice guy who treats you with love and respect (Aiden) instead being with a toxic, emotionally abusive sociopath like Big. I feel SATC set women back. Gave women the wrong message. I hated that show.

[@spasticfurchild]

@@natalieshannon7659 And Carrie having the "but I'LL be the one who can change him!" attitude is also irritating. Big was up front about not wanting to be in a relationship relationship, but Carrie still kept NOT accepting it. He laid it out there for her and she was basically like "No, I don't accept it, but I also won't walk away." SO frustrating.

[@reng935]

Please, she held that group together. Everybody in the show was annoying at least once.

[@KellyClement]

they should have had an Alternate place where Carrie lived in the Hamptons and had a Nervous Breakdown, and Manhattan is actually a Mental Hospital

[@princessdyn]

Aidan got away... and that is the opposite of toxic. Good for him

[@FacheChanteDeux]

This show was of it's time. New dialogues and ideas were being discussed. It can't be judged by 2021 standards. This show helped get a lot of people to 2021 by showing multiple lifestyles and ideas,

[@nujeru99]

Most of these are SPOT-ON. As someone who watched the series when it aired, alot of these issues I felt about the show then (circa 2000/2001). Carrie, Miranda, Charlotte's view of the sexual spectrum was REVOLTING--especially because Carrie was supposed to be a SEX COLUMNIST in NYC. I have BIG ISSUES with the SATC movies, two of the most glaring were the ridiculous pairing of Stanford/Anthony (who always loathed each other in the series) and Steve cheating. Steve was NEVER portrayed as that type, and it was just lazy writing...as was pairing the "two gay best friends" together

[@dnycebushton5008]

Steve is a human person, his wife was getting older by the second...

[@leonardascorpius5304]

Sadly, all the stuff that was portrayed in the whole damn series resulted from what us older gals (Gen-Xers) dealt with/were taught to believe based off of a mix of Disney princesses and Ms. Magazine, and everything in between!! No one really talked about our childhood trauma, sexual preferences, and true lifestyle choices for fear of others' harsh opinions and judgments. Not all of us feel this way, but generally speaking, SATC does reflect the confusion of traditional and non-traditional relationships, etc.

[@petuniapandy]

As a fellow Gen-Xer lady...a million thank yous for mentioning Disney's influence on our views on relationships. I'm an educator that cringes at the sight of what I call "Disney teachers" that seem to be in this infantilized bubble and are not great at fostering critical thinking in their students.

[@oooh19]

well even millennials honestly people are so judgmental as well. people aren't wrong to keep certain things about themselves to themselves bc people totally judge. it's still like the 50s. by the way this show was the 90s/early 00s so it was different than now

[@tyrant-den884]

It's COSMO scandalous.

[@mahoganimedia]

agreed, fellow GenXer.

[@isawhat8712]

That's kind of how I see SATC having watched it as a teenager (I'm a Millennial). It's definitely not perfect but neither was the culture at the time. There were a lot of things problematic and it's reflected in the show. Gen-Xers had pressure not to be "the slut" but it was also a time where expectations of pre-marital sex were changing. Hell even in 2010, I remember feeling that every man I slept with tarnished me a little more and would result in me being less desirable. That message was what I grew up hearing from my parents, from society, from high school gossip... I can't imagine what women of the 90s had to deal with on a conscious and subconscious level.

[@cristinalabarrere2800]

I completely agree that many aspects of the show haven't aged well and still we can appreciate it for what it was. However, I think it's a little incoherent of "the take" to, at the same time, criticize the show for blaming the difficulty in Miranda and Steve's relationship on Steve's insecurities (since they point out other factors that would have made it more complicated) and afterward say that Miranda "settled" for Steve.

[@tessarobins2451]

I see what you mean, and I think the point could have been made a little clearer. But I think what was going on there was the application of different lenses to parts of the show. When discussing the shows perspective on race, Steve's position as a working class guy with his own struggles is no longer relevant (apart from in that most reductive, gross way - it's implicitly contrasted negatively against the Blair Underwood character's aspirational wealth). What does matter is that he is framed by the show as less than. And Miranda STILL picks him. There probably could have been more of an effort to link the ideas though - no doubt if this were an academic essay there would be. Something like "she settles for Steve, a character whose less than charitable treatment of the show was discussed in a previous section."

[@reng935]

I know right. At the end of the show, was not Steve an owner of a successful bar?

[@cristinalabarrere2800]

@@tessarobins2451 Yes, I see what you mean. It's the show itself that portrayed Steve as "inferior", therefore by its own standads, she "settled". All that being said, I think Miranda's is one of the better arcs, looking back. Carrie's, to me, is the most outrageous. "Insist on a toxic relationship when you and the other person clearly want totally different things 'cause in the end, he'll change just for you". 🙄

[@cristinalabarrere2800]

@@reng935 Yes! And that's another thing: why was it so important that Steve had "ambition", meaning only that he was supposed to want to earn more money?

[@reng935]

@@cristinalabarrere2800 Exactly. Steve is happy with his life and that is not a bad thing. If Miranda, wanted to work her ass off, that's fine

[@camilatz4956]

I think the greatest value of this show is that it understood the debates between the different worldviews and put them to talk. In that debate one (Carrie's) always wins, but they put all of them so that you can decide which one to identify with. I think they were extremely aware of their stereotyping, but they gave you the chance to find yourself in the characters. But...what they didn't see was what was coming. They did not have the head to think about the future, only about the present. That is why we cannot see it with the magnifying glass of this time. They spoke of what had to be talked about at that time, not what has to be talked about now. The past serves to apprehend what is useful and learn from what is not useful. That is why it seems so magnificent to me.

[@TrulyMadlyShallowly]

This is really insightful. And as someone who watched this at the time, I really agree. It took on many subjects and discussed them from various viewpoints, which was new and fresh for the time. Some conversations went further and had to, which makes it now... something of the past, yes, but not all worthless. I’m not sure I find it that useful to keep doing this - judging SATC with a current viewpoint - but many videos seem to have a need to, so. By the way, I don’t agree with the video that the show is slut-shaming Samantha. Charlotte does, Carrie does, but I’m pretty sure the show admirably stays away from the judgment, which ads value and reality.

[@camilatz4956]

@@TrulyMadlyShallowly I can only agree with everything you just said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@spj4you]

@@TrulyMadlyShallowly A very good point on the slut-shaming. Plus they left the part out where Carrie apologizes and admits to being judgmental of Samantha who in turn, stands up for herself but doesn't hold a grudge. That taught me so much about female friendships (or how they should be).

[@jaquim6383]

I absolutely don't see these aspects as toxic. back then, that's the way it was. the world is constantly changing.

[@angelaking7929]

100% agree. I think it's a horrible take when they say the show ignored the trans community. SATC ended two decades ago when social media wasn't the sole means for people to feel validated. It was okay to have a private life.

[@kinseydesignsbrands]

As a bisexual from Colorado, that line Carrie says always feels like a personal attack 😆 thanks for talking about it! 👏👏👏

[@joydoe7938]

You need to remember, they're supposed to be flawed characters, we are supposed to get annoyed at them and root for them. They're the antagonist and the protagonists in their own lives and everyone else's. They're human and we all have prejudice and filthy egos.

[@majadejanovska3740]

Exactly! What's up with the moral bashing these days? Everyone seems to be offended by everything. As if they themselves are following the moral highway constantly. Don't think so.

[@joydoe7938]

@@majadejanovska3740 Not every television series needs to be a moral story. While we should all try to be better, we aren't perfect and never will be, any media student knows that media reflects society.

[@lillypotter7966]

I agree, but I don’t think that’s the purpose of this video. This video is trying to show that we shouldn’t be idolizing the flaws. Like if someone doesn’t show respect to a POC, they shouldn’t be victimized. They should portrayed as being in the wrong.

[@lillypotter7966]

I agree, but I don’t think that’s the purpose of this video. This video is trying to show that we shouldn’t be idolizing the flaws. Like if someone doesn’t show respect to a POC, they shouldn’t be victimized. They should portrayed as being in the wrong.

[@joydoe7938]

@@lillypotter7966 Art unfortunately reflects reality. Bit of a rough mirror to deal with

[@lilchiliflake]

"He's the next Donald Trump!" That line aged like milk🤣

[@allthingsbeauty9175]

Neither has your comment 😂

[@lisawentworth6831]

@@allthingsbeauty9175 the comment is spot on...and if you notice, your opinion is the vast minority. Little did we know there would be a surreal nightmare sequence where the reality 'star' would play at being president! We had more respect when he was just a cliche' playboy, like when this episode was filmed!

[@karafinucan7838]

@@lisawentworth6831, well now there is a SENILE, SNIFFING, TOUCHY FEELY imposter in there. Not better, but so much worse!!!!

[@lisawentworth6831]

@@karafinucan7838 nothing is worse than trump, and they are about the same age. At least the we aren't a laughingstock to the world with an educated man in office, rather than Agolf Tweetler. Imposter indeed; former VP Vs a giant Cheetos

[@karafinucan7838]

@@lisawentworth6831, keep telling yourself that........ 🙄🤦‍♀️ DJT was the BEST PRESIDENT we have had since R. Reagan!! Oh, he is still the LEGITIMATE President, & everyone else will learn that real quick!! Enjoy! 😀 😀

[@Margotsecretlaundromat]

The take is that one nerd everyone loves.

[@alexsmith2910]

The Take is the Great.

[@AxxLAfriku]

GAGAGAGAGAAGAG this is wonderful! PRANK! It is terrible! I looked in the mirror and saw something UNPRETTY: my face. GAGAGAGAG! But I am happy again because I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS and I make cool YT videos with them! Good evening, love and peace, dear li

[@Wolkenklee]

@@AxxLAfriku are you alright?

[@availanila]

@@Wolkenklee ignore the troll. They've been doing this for well over two years now.

[@trinaq]

Yes, and The Take gets an A Plus grade every single time! 👏🏾💯

[@katrinahamiltonofficial]

"If 20 years later it still felt completely relevant, then something would definitely be wrong." I need to remember this every time people start talking about retroactively cancelling media from the past. Our media SHOULD feel dated, that's how we know we've progressed.

[@lisaspikes4291]

I thought the whole gay wedding was kind of goofy. But when Anthony said his vows, I admit, I got teary. It was touching.

[@MaRyaYTOfficial]

I feel shows like this, ex: Girlfriends. Is always about having a man, getting a man and how it sucks to not have one

[@mariedit9935]

Yeah, it gets old

[@Jenny-dx1ln]

Yes, in some parts they don't really age well

[@Whackadoo1]

Not really. At least on Girlfriends Lynn is usually single and is normally content with herself. She seems to need a man the least of the clique. Maya was already married to Darnell and they brought a more honest look at blue collar black families trying to come up at the time. Joan was desperate for a man but the show at least analyzed why she was that way without judging here for wanting love. Toni was just a mess, but a realistic one lol

[@hyperfeminal]

Joan was INSUFFERABLE, MY GOD!!!!

[@MaRyaYTOfficial]

@@Jenny-dx1ln oh gosh yes, they age terrible

[@starladoss3787]

I watched this show in its heyday and it was something totally unique in the way it followed these four women and their lives. No show prior to this one really touched on a lot of these topics simply because it wasn't the right time as with most shows. It was truly eye opening for me at the time and as I have rewatched the series at certain points in my life I still find some things to be relatable as I get older. Of course by today's standards there are a lot of things wrong with the show, but for its time it really was something remarkable and it touched on topics that women dealt with and discussed instead of being fed the same tropes.

[@lisaspikes4291]

Me too. I don’t think it was meant to say “this is how you should act,” rather “this is the way some people act.” That’s where the drama and comedy come from! Besides, I am approximately the same age as the characters, a little older than Carrie, Miranda and Charlotte, and a little younger than Samantha, so I could relate to a lot of the situations at the time.

[@deividchg]

I love exactly that SATC sold us a fantasy, a lavish lifestyle, a beautiful city with beautiful people owning expensive goods. I wouldn't want it any other way. If I wanted sth realistic, I'd simply turn on the news.

[@santiagohardy2728]

Thank you! It's odd, how the critique of the show, is supposed to demonstrate evolved "takeaways", when the presenter comes off as a whiny "woke" karen.

[@gianmarcorusso1713]

@@santiagohardy2728 Curiously in another video the presenter glorifies Miranda Priestly...

[@kckazcoll1]

@@santiagohardy2728 please don't use the name Karen as an insult. When that is your name it hurts when people use it that way

[@lizziepielove]

Thank you!!!!

[@laikanbarth]

@@kckazcoll1 Thank you.

[@lara_xy]

There is so much wrong with the show (as you mentioned here and it the other videos), yet I still love watching it every now and again

[@claudiam2474]

I am sorry but 99% of women wouldn t touch a man that is bi. They will just think he is gay. This was on an insecure episode as well and it s a pretty accurate depiction of reality no matter what u think

[@salponce3368]

These are basically the toxic giveaways of EVERY show of that time.

[@fockingreat1125]

Even Will & Grace casually erased bisexuality...

[@karafinucan7838]

@@fockingreat1125, GOOD!!

[@fockingreat1125]

@@karafinucan7838 Who are you lmao

[@karafinucan7838]

I am "Kara". Why?

[@fockingreat1125]

@@karafinucan7838Oh it doesn't matter, I was just real confused because literally no one asked for your opinion, especially not the ignorant one 🙏 thanks

[@viewerFAC]

Given that Samantha is the more sexually progressive part of the show and the voice of someone who really is comfortable in her skin who doesn't need a man to "complete" her, what will the the new series be like? She and Miranda (esp. in the early seasons) were the counter balances to Carrie and Charlotte, no there will be none of that.

[@viewerFAC]

Also $4,000 for a Birkin actually made me nostalgic considering a Chanel medium Classic Flap is over $6,000 now!

[@Lila-sy2yd]

I honestly wished for a better remake of the series with Samantha as the main character instead of Carrie. It always bothered me that Samantha wasn't the main character. She is sexually progressive, very confident, puts her friends first and has a successful career. Carrie on the other hand relies heavily on men (especially Big), is very insecure and has an unrealistic career. I hate that women like Samantha are rarely seen on screen as the female lead. Well, with Samantha not being on the show I think all my hopes are crushed.

[@dr.little7311]

There’s plenty of toxic takeaways from the finale of Supernatural. You guys should do some videos on Supernatural. I mean Dean is just begging for an in depth character analysis.

[@incharak1927]

The Take talking about Supernatural?? I'd die for tht

[@Silkenpetal]

I still can't think of the last episode without flying into a rage!!!

[@justatinyhalfling]

I second this SO MUCH

[@Psychology_529]

What happened?

[@dr.little7311]

@@Psychology_529 Spoliers for non finale watchers! Dean got killed by a monster of the week vampire (impaled on a rusty nail). Ends up in heaven with Bobby, one mention of Castiel but no appearance. Sam lives and has a funeral for Dean alone (which was against Dean’s wishes in like season 11 I think). Sam doesn’t end up with Eileen and instead has a wife who we see in the background all blurry. He has a son named Dean and dies of old age. Jack becomes the new God. Castiel has no appearance in the final two episodes and is barely mentioned. Am I missing anything?

[@voicesofjoi545]

You hit this out of the park!! I loved SITC! I was a fan from day one probably because I was around the same age living in NYC (Harlem) at the time. I even had Cosmo parties on Sunday nights. But as the other seasons went by I began to see that POC were not a part of this world. The ladies never went uptown to Harlem or the Bronx. They didn't have any other friends of color. Miranda hated the very idea of moving to Brooklyn. When they did have POC around, they were extras or wait staff, barely not stereotypical. I wanted to see someone like myself being a part of their world. By the time the show ended and way before the movies came out, I felt like 90s/early 2000s shows economically and literally were segregated. I lost interest, even though Blair Underwood showed up. Even now, I don't know if I want to visit them again. We are around the same age now and I almost don't care what they are doing because I'm not in NYC anymore. Plus, I've found other shows to enjoy watching that include "others" without patronizing.

[@Theomite]

Man I'm so glad I don't have to be insecure about hating this show now. I always knew there was something off about it but I didn't have enough data to put my finger on it. Thankfully, The Take has got me covered.

[@callalilly4743]

Wasted her youth on Big, wasted her friends time and wasted money.

[@stephentatum8958]

Yes!👏🏻

[@7Donna77]

She had great youth, sex, shoes, beautiful men. Its fab

[@sarcasticallyrearranged]

Youth isn't wasted if you've done what makes you happy. Besides, Carrie was already over 30 when she met John.

[@IOANNA333]

What did Sex & the City got wrong? Em, Carrie And Big?

[@AW-vk6zt]

As a bisexual man myself, the portrayal of Anthony made me so... tired. He just annoyed me. His quips and quite bitchy demeanor just put me off to the point where I skipped the scenes he were in. Sure, he was kind to Charlotte, but he constantly just made himself to be judgmental and quite unpleasant. He's basically the sassy gay best friend, ramped up to maximum exaggeration. It made me angry that he and Stanford got married. And not to mention, I could never really relate to most of the non-straight male characters in the show, except that one bisexual guy Carrie dated. They were either all "queens", As Stanford put it, or the type of well-sculpted guy you saw at the gay bars. There was no nuance, no depth, and most of Stanford's appearances were either to be Carrie's gay bestie, or having relationship problems. Maybe I'm wrong, but it just annoyed me to no end. I know this was the 90s/early 2000s, but... it just bothered me immensely.

[@KaioMichiru22]

Sadly Anthony is a not far from reality. Look at Influencers like Jeffre Star or celebrities like Billy Porter, they're literally like Anthony.

[@MyCamilla1989]

People like Anthony do exist, but I believe they are actually transphobic transsexuals in denial, so their discontent in life makes them hostile to everyone and everything in life except for their idol women.

[@zamev]

Anthony is not bisexual. He's gay.

[@MyCamilla1989]

@@savosupremacy what you don’t understand is back then people didn’t know they had the option not to conform to a gender stereotype. Non binary people used to be described as unstable and confused. Many gay men thought being a gay man required being sassy and ghetto bitchy so they adopted that persona just to fit in. Media had a huge role in this as well. For example hypermasculine gay groups like the leather community was seen as a threat and written off as dangerous and subversive from day one. On the other hand many trans people were afraid of the stigma so they forced themselves to stay in a more “acceptable” gay / lesbian area - and they weren’t happy! Only recently people began being less judgemental and giving each other the freedom to be whatever.

[@MyCamilla1989]

@@savosupremacy and you thought I needed your confirmation.

[@TheLeah2344]

Finally yall spoke on the angry black woman trope. That was the worst episode of Sex and the City. I’m so tired of that stereotype. It hurts black women in real life. Also anger is an emotion that ALL humans experience but for some reason black women are villanize for it.

[@TenderPortia]

well the beauty of this show was in its imperfection! Every character had flaws and it was fun to watch! there are no perfect ppl in the real world :)

[@LittleMissRockChalk]

Sex and the City (and I say this as a die-hard fan) has many shortcomings in 2021, but it wasn't made in 2021. I think a more fitting way to discuss this is ideas from SATC we can leave in the 90s/2000s.

[@user-ub8oi7oh3r]

Yes, bisexuality did not exist in the 90s. The lgbtq+ community simply just did not exist.

[@julianaalencar9586]

Yes. In my opinion is lame to discuss whether SATC was or not toxic because: 1. the show never meant to say what's right or wrong. It just shows us different perspectives on a certain subject because such views exist in real life. Some people believe bisexual isn't a thing. That was true in the 90' and it is today. But does the show says that IT does not exist? No. SATC doesn't have an opinion. 2. Political correct wasn't a thing back then. Judging the show based on 2021 perspective is good to understand how things changed, but to criticize the show? Come on...

[@KaioMichiru22]

@@user-ub8oi7oh3r Actually it wasn't very explored because it was taboo. Grow up, do some research. I'm a member of the lgbt community but i certainly know my people's history. Watch Pose, amazing and kinda educational.

[@Femmagorgon]

@@user-ub8oi7oh3r of course they existed but they were not openly discussed in the same way as they are today in 2021. Keep in mind, gay marriage was still illegal in the US during the show’s entire run and the mere fact that they showed LGBTQ+ characters at all (even though many of them followed the usual tropes) was a big deal. If this show were made today, obviously LGBTQ+ characters would be written and treated very differently.

[@user-ub8oi7oh3r]

@@Femmagorgon but they existed? Especially in New York when the scene for lgbtq+ was huge? I’m tired of the “it was a different time” excuse, because it’s really pathetic and can’t be valid when the time was not that long ago. The debate existed, two sides existed and the writers chose the side of homophobia. The whole show was about challenging present ideas about sex, and you’re sitting here telling me that they couldn’t incorporate lgbtq+ because it was more taboo? The show was clearly written to challenge taboo, and they could’ve easily properly explored sexuality. They chose not to.

[@luizacastilho8050]

i'm from brazil and you mentioned sonia braga as a "person of color". here in brazil she is considered white and one of the whitest lol

[@spj4you]

I know, right? I've always wondered why POC is a term people are accepting of...I mean, white is a color. How about minorities in the show or people of cultures, ethnicities, etc.

[@luizacastilho8050]

@@spj4you exactly. or just foreign, brazilian

[@anamaria-db7pq]

yeah I find this expression actually pretty racist when it's actually meant to be less racist lol . e.g. Calling an Asian person a POC is strange. They don't necessarily have another skin color than a caucasian person does wtf. Don't like this expression.

[@mjreed6368]

Person of color refers to people that are not caucasian or "white" it doesn't have to do anything with the actual colour of the skin , the reason that they use this term is because in the west they tend to be minorities among the population , if a person is fair/pale they can still be a poc

[@CreoTan]

It's because in the US she's seen as "not caucasian," her being Brazilian would automatically "outrank" her actual skin color. It's not about appearance, it's about how people are treated/perceived. Like, my puerto rican dad has white, pale skin, but he's not treated the same as "white" men, bc he still looks Latino, and has an accent and hispanic name. It's annoying and hypocritical, but america itself is annoying and hypocritical, so i guess it's on brand

[@Michael-xi9nb]

I forgot about the scene where Carrie basically said, “Sorry Stanford, you’re not good enough to meet the Russian.” How humiliating! And to invite the ladies in front of him, as well.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

Not all friends need to be invited to all things, but damn, you don't invite someone to something in front of someone else who isn't invited. That's just rude and cruel.

[@emisuenaga5881]

I still wonder what that was about! They never explained why Stanford couldn't go and it was rude as hell to invite the girls in front of him...

[@egyptianqueen4007]

@@emisuenaga5881 She said it was just a ladies night.

[@noel2223]

@@emisuenaga5881 tbh I never liked Stanford, he was really whiney and because of how much I heard about him I expected him to be more of an important character when I started watching. He always seemed like the B list of friends for Carrie (tbh maybe even lower) despite them claiming to be “best friends”, but as someone who has been there in certain groups it’s really mean to actively exclude someone IN FRONT OF THAT PERSON.

[@Turbonilla]

the ones you define as toxic takeaways are simply the reality of a certain group of entitled people in the '90s. I never liked the world depicted in the show, anyway that represents a social background and I don't think it's supposed to be completely likable. We sadly are now too used to shows meant to be "educational" and we are losing our own critical point of view on flawed characters.

[@user-gs6pu6sb4k]

The relationship with yourself being the one to work on first has been a serious game-changer for my life❤ Thank you, writers, for writing these amazing words for a fantastical character.

[@fairdose]

The show has aged terribly so I don’t understand why HBOMax is doing a new limited series of the show of Carrie et al in their 50’s. Do we really need to watch how Carrie is now dealing with orthopaedic problems and Mr. Big is now on Viagra?

[@saltycrunch]

I mean, why not? Do people stop being sexual beings in their 50s?

[@availanila]

@@saltycrunch the worst is Kim Cattrall not being there. She was my favourite and now I feel they'll just be the Golden Girls without the "g"; so just "olden girls" since Kim was Rue.

[@toomuchinformation]

I don't see the point of this remake. How much more juice can they squeeze from this dry fruit? I think it'll bomb. It's had its day; let it rest in peace now.

[@pollystye3270]

I'm calling it: there'll be an episode where Carrie gets "cancelled".

[@jesscline9661]

Lmao 😆 I was telling my man the same thing!

[@bryanalstoncoxing]

I can’t wait for you to review the new reboot (without Samantha 😒). It sounds like it’ll be a mess just like the second movie, or worse

[@hillarymaxson4451]

Right? The movies were so bad. In the movies they are all so rich and privileged it felt like I was watching the Kardashians. I don't know how they can undo that.

[@Ryan-pg1tw]

@@hillarymaxson4451 maybe you should express yourself more respectful

[@bryanalstoncoxing]

Ryan Hilary M didn’t say anything that was wrong though. The movies (especially the second one) really lost a lot of the charm and intelligence of the show and just was a bunch of superficial BS

[@hillarymaxson4451]

@@bryanalstoncoxing Thanks! I didn't mean to sound disrespectful. I agreed with the comment and added my opinion. I don't think anything I said was any less respectful than the points that were made in this video. I'm a fan of the original series but I find the movies unwatchable.

[@starryeyed777]

I’m hoping that the reboot sees that Big has left Carrie...because let’s face it..this is probably the most realistic outcome of that relationship. Either that or that they become fed up of each other and just stay together for the sake of it. Also I agree with Hillary M - you weren’t disrespectful at all and everything you said was true 😊

[@ronbzoom8531]

There was no Samantha, Charlotte, or Miranda. They were all voices in Carrie's head. Today Carrie is resting comfortably at a modest but delightful health facility. It's said she's making progress.

[@vaskylark]

Geez I hate when we view things from the past with a modern day lens. It's not fair. It's annoying.

[@user-ke8st8jc1v]

The show had the most wonderful takeaway ,it was FUN

[@ayanaatthrivebewhole]

I think the show does have some problematic things for sure with race and a lack of openness. I also feel like it was a reflection of the '90s on every societal level... And the race stuff was awful. I think if it had been made today, some things would be different. One good thing about the show that I like, is that a lot of the flaws in the characters are designed to be called out and they are very humanized in that way. They are not supposed to be perfect models of how to behave and act, they are just supposed to be women.

[@Featherfunflower]

too true!

[@LuuCaicedo]

Thanks you

[@cerenz7945]

Can you do New Girl next? Maybe you could talk about the portrayal of Winston and other people of colour. What I liked about the show was that the cultural backgrounds of the characters were never the only character trait. Maybe you could also talk about Schmidt and Nick‘s bromance. I always thought that these men are quite progressive because they don‘t fear emotional or physical closeness to their male friends. Very refreshing to see.

[@Stelly2015]

That clip of Samantha saying “A sistas gotta get ready!” while picking out her Afro wig was absolutely CRINGE. 0:59

[@lemsip207]

I don't see the problem with that. It's just hair.

[@Stelly2015]

@@lemsip207I’m not here to educate people in 2021 about the obvious. The best I can say is I’m sorry you don’t see the problem. Have a nice day.

[@SuperBrianMak]

Thank you, I agree

[@tammie4272]

@@Stelly2015 & that's That!

[@fabiofuoco]

@@lemsip207 i agree. I can see how it’s problematic and I too have cringed seeing that again in the video, but in the context of the show, Samantha is going through chemio at that time so wearing wigs is her way of feeling herself while changing look everyday. That particular line is literally just that, a joke on a hairstyle that was made popular by black people in the 70s. I’m aware of the discourse around cultural appropriation etc, but in my opinion it has become too strict of a rule, like it’s just hair.

[@IzzyOnTheMove]

I used to love SATC and still do to a certain extent, but when rewatching it years later i found myself cringing at many things, thanks for highlighting some of them. The trans thing was especially bad. I can't believe they called them "hookers". Imagine being a young trans not yet out of the closet watching it back then. "Half man, half woman" .... UUUUMMM NO that's not what trans is *banging my head on the wall*

[@gersonribeiro374]

Two other toxic takeaways that are overdue: The 50 shades franchise and the Big Bang Theory!!

[@1MegArbo]

50 Shades IS toxicity and most know it.Not sure how needed it is, unless The Take can come from a totally untapped POV. But the Big Bang Theory? GET ON THAT! Man that thing is nothing but tropes and stereotypes and is toxic AF! They can easily do a Big Bang series.

[@JuriAmari]

Especially the Big Bang Theory. It harmed the geek and nerd communities, especially with the toxic tropes about nerds vs jocks and nerdy men gatekeeping potentially nerdy women. The show attempts to play these ideas as exaggerations to laugh at. But you’re more likely to cringe if the live studio audience is taken away. I’ve heard some of those lines (especially Sheldon’s) in real life. Check out Pop Culture Detective’s videos on BBT. They are a great jumping off point. The videos were done a few years prior to the show ending so it scratched the surface of great potential for further critique.

[@missbeans]

BBT was AWFUL. I am a gamer girl and scifi/fantasy nerd and that show was just....so fuckin backwards and awful. One of my non-geek friends was trying to get me to watch it because "they like nerdy stuff like you!" Ok yeah so what? The way they're portrayed is so shitty! Especially the women!!! This show represented everything in toxic gamer/geek culture that us geek girls were actively fighting against at the time! Ugh makes me so damn mad.

[@fuzei]

I disagree with the use of the gay best friend example from Easy A. That's one of the few examples where all of the female lead's problems start from helping her gay friend hide his sexuality to avoid persecution. That means that it was about HIS safety and her PROTECTING him, at her OWN expense. That's not "using a gay best friend", that's being a martyr for your gay best friend. Which I would argue is a different kind of problematic.

[@francygonzalez7285]

And he wasn't her best friend. She barely know him

[@fuzei]

@@francygonzalez7285 Even more true!

[@gaesimp__]

Yeah agreed

[@michelbernstein1910]

Never thought about it like that - if the show still felt completely relevant something was wrong with our society. I tried watching this show last year and only made it 3 or 4 eps in, it was so offensive to me, but I can definitely appreciate it in this context. Great video!

[@annejohnson5875]

I think the show seemed to frame it as Aidan's fault that Carrie was uncomfortable with having such an available boyfriend.

[@IvoryLeviathan]

The reason they take about men so much is because the programme is called SEX and the City? Like what was it supposed to be? Four Women Talking about Everything But Men and the City?

[@Tinymoezzy]

The show is over 20 years old, nothing ages well... especially shows of the moment.

[@jonathannagel7427]

Yup, and it was made for people who were adults then, not for newborns to learn about and criticize twenty years later

[@marzipan2555]

@@jonathannagel7427 if you watched till the end of the video, they do mention that this show was a product of its time.

[@sarahsiddiqui6494]

A lot of media has aged well. That's just a boring excuse really.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

No show will age perfectly, but when I Love Lucy has aged so, so much better, and that show is decades older, and even Honeymooners aged better in a lot of ways, something's wrong.

[@LF-mg3nx]

Sex & The City was SO honest and refreshing.. if you were white, cis, straight and at least a little rich :'D

[@Dauerglotzer123]

And medium-upper class 😅

[@LF-mg3nx]

@@Dauerglotzer123 I was gonna come back to edit my comment to add this but you beat me to it :D

[@alejandrocervantes3624]

For a second there I god dislexic & thougth you said "little b*tch :'D"

[@LF-mg3nx]

@@alejandrocervantes3624 hahaha omg thank you for that :'D (I mean you're not wrong)

[@vee6163]

exactly

[@shannonceleste5557]

Lol “for something he did 6 months ago”. Like... uhm yeah it may take a little longer for me to forgive my partner of 5+yrs (or however long) and the father of my child, especially when he blames me for his bad behavior 🙄

[@lisaspikes4291]

I didn’t see it that way. The way Miranda cut everything off like that was cold. I know it hurts when your partner cheats. But let’s be realistic, it happens. A lot! And the marriage vows say for better or worse. This would fall under the worse category. After the initial shock, I think they should have gone to counseling and worked things out. It’s crazy to throw away a relationship for one mistake. Of course, if cheating becomes a habit, That’s different story. That’s just someone who really doesn’t respect you and doesn’t want to be married. But one time? Anyone can slip up like that.

[@a.westenholz4032]

@@lisaspikes4291 I think for me, the issue is that Steve essentially blames Miranda for his cheating. Even if the underlying cause is the absence of one of the partners in the marriage, it isn't fair to blame them. I doubt absence in reality would be the only cause, and cheating because someone misses the company, rather trying to talk to their partner about it, is hardly equitable. At that point, if it was me, what I would want to hear is a full fledged mea culpa, an total admission that what they did was wrong with no excuse, not even the already dysfunctional marriage. BUT that they regret allowing the marriage to get to that point without having said anything. Then I think I would be more willing to forgive and try again. But what Steve basically says is yes he cheated and it was wrong, but it was ultimately Miranda's bad for not being there, so he's really not to blame- and therefore not so much in the wrong as she is. That line from a cheating partner, even if it was only once, I wouldn't accept.

[@hollyroxy25]

An entire 22 minute video about how they’re flawed human beings...what a revelation 🙄

[@NatashaRaisorGlam]

I’m so glad the 90’s is over. We have come so far. I can’t believe when I was in my twenties I thought this show was so cutting edge. Im glad I can look back and see the foolishness of this show.

[@Sishel]

Could it just be that it was “woke” for when it aired but too regressive for the new “woke” standards?

[@rivanlords1]

Yes, retro-woke...the undisputed winner of the worst kind of woke.

[@jennerick92jm]

Good one

[@camilatz4956]

@@rivanlords1 women voting is a retro-woke! That's awful too? Not every retro is bad. All in good time

[@TierraRuth]

I would say no because the show was being criticized as it aired

[@alexandrebeaudry8377]

@MmKay I would say it's now often use a critic or insult. Like a simp is throw very fast as soon as someone is sharing something.

[@muthinhlema6498]

As much as I enjoyed the video, (as always 😁) it really had me thinking: do we really want movies and TV shows that are NOT toxic or problematic? Stories that don't offend or ruffle our feathers? How do we expect fiction to push the limits of our thinking or the overton window if it never offends?

[@georg_couch]

That sounded very much like something Carrie would have written on her column to be honest. "I couldn't help but wonder do we really want movies and TV shows...?"

[@aktchungrabanio6467]

So you admit you can only feed on drama in your life?

[@muthinhlema6498]

Well...more like it would be boring if we had no diversity in the kinds of movies and TV shows on offer. Let creatives tell the stories they want and we should be free to consume or partake of what we want. But the short answer to your question: hell yeah...a little drama wouldn't hurt 😁

[@meluzinaskolastika746]

@@aktchungrabanio6467 he? well that is a mental hurdle you made there...extremly stupid

[@PrincessKLS]

I’m bisexual and I can confirm that back in that day, a lot of people believed bisexuality was just a phase and not valid. Don’t get me started about how people viewed transgender people (up until recently).

[@wildermidnight]

I dunno. I used to go to a club on west 13th street back in the day and i swear to god I saw that "up your ass" scene play out about a half a dozen times on my way home...

[@jalabi99]

Back in the day, and right up to now. If I had a dime for every time someone used the "being bi is only a fad, you'll grow out of it" line on my friends who were and are bisexual, I'd be as rich as Croesus...

[@phobosdeimos9799]

Youre judging with a 2020 point of view. In those days they were questioning, what the mainstream was thinking. And it opened some doors, but ppl have to walk through by themselves.

[@DelilahSmith-jk7er]

Love this analysis, but gotta say, I disagree with the assessment of Steve. The "man who's so intimidated by Miranda's success, it moves him to anger," isn't quite accurate. Steve was always content to be himself, however, Miranda wasn't. From the start of their relationship, it was Miranda who made fun of him for being a bartender, disrespected him in front of her friends, felt shame in their lifestyle differences, and dragged him to places she knew he couldn't afford (i.e. the suit shop), all in the effort of trying to make him fit in with her more "high powered/high wealth" crowd. Steve never had an issue with Miranda's success until she threw his "lack" of success in his face. He didn't break up with Miranda because he wasn't in her same tax bracket; he broke up with her because he knew SHE wanted him to be. If she didn't, she would've been fine with him just wearing that corduroy suit.

[@leriava]

I was just watching the Take's video on The simp and the way they phrased it showed a respect for people who take others needs into account and sometimes (healthly) put them before their own to make a relationship work. BUT when it comes to Miranda they always make it seems that she only had losses from marrying Steve and having a family. That doesn't seem a very balanced view of her and her choices.

[@BellesView]

Agreed. Yes her lifestyle changed once she had a baby and married Steve. However, she didn’t settle. She was still Miranda with new priorities outside her career. When The Take said Miranda settled, it made me wonder what would they prefer?

[@sarcasticallyrearranged]

They've done so many episodes complaining about "Sex and the City " and trying to nitpick and find everything that is wrong with it through a modern lens, when it was 22 years ago when it premiered. Frankly, I'm sick of it and won't be watching the channel anymore. So many other shows /movies /characters /ideas to dissect, yet it's stuck on this show.

[@mysteriiis]

@@BellesView That part confused the shit out of me. Is Steve being shit-on for his income level? Or is he a douchebag for getting pissed about Amanda's money? Is the show a paeon to New York snobbery? Or is Miranda getting cheating for ending up living like the rest of us? Don't get me wrong. Steve could be a serious tool. But this episode doesn't seem to know which parts of the storyline even piss them off.