Toyota 86 GTS auto 2017 review | road test video

[@0xRS7]

Clearly you don't know the point behind this car Go drive a Corolla It's a shame they called you an "expert"

[@akent46]

Agree! Total drop kick he is lol

[@user-bs4jy9sr8m]

Hahaha!

[@TimRobson]

@@akent46 Manners...

[@AJS86]

Seriously the 86 is the car for the car enthusiasts. So many real world racers love the car. If you want a Porsche but can't afford one buy an 86. Closest thing I've driven to my 2015 86 is a 944 Turbo

[@wanghanshen]

Yeah. You review a Toyota 86 with an automatic transmission and talk about cargo space......

[@Chadfrank1126]

Exactly. He knows nothing about 86 customers

[@lobsterwhisperer7932]

its a corolla coupe.

[@AJS86]

This 86 is useless for carpooling to the office. The company Hybrid Yaris is far more economical etc

[@Sergiok8]

Everybody who says the 86 doesn't have enough power, dont really know how to drive (it). Simple as that.

[@JensonWongKS]

Yeah... And it's an Automatic..

[@aimxdy8680]

86 is not built for straights, its built for track.

[@mickbee7871]

It really might be better this way, people who know what the 86 is really about get to appreciate it more :)

[@sugerhitman1295]

@@mickbee7871 I had my doubts. Test drove a 17 auto in sport mode and was surprised...i now own it and its just as fun as my Camaro 2.0.

[@AJS86]

​@@sugerhitman1295 dude you bought a Camaro 2.0? That's even a thing? I'm amazed you didn't just give up and buy a Camry Hybrid

[@fatboy19831]

I love my BRZ purchased it back in 2012. I plan to keep it forever. It has been paid off for years with no problems I average 29 mpg. I am using an open flash tablet tune. It only adds a few hp up top but allot of punch in the 3000 to 5000 rpm range with no real hit on fuel economy in normal driving. When I run 85% ethanol or E-85 the car puts out about 20 more hp with zero torque dip. The car runs much cooler on hot days. Best $500 us I have ever spent.

[@AJS86]

What's 29mpg in L per 100km

[@fatboy19831]

@@AJS86 not positive. Don't get the 2012 or 2013 car. Valve spring problems. Mine broke at 52kmiles. Subaru did not cover it at the time. Became a recall 2 years later.

[@AJS86]

@@fatboy19831 I've got a 2015 GT 86. Don't worry I work at Toyota. Seen a few valve spring recalls. But I've seen a lot more DPF and other recalls for Hiluxes and other Diesels

[@fatboy19831]

@@AJS86 the 2015 and 16 are the best. The most reliable car sold in the states those years.

[@AJS86]

@@fatboy19831 I'm not in the states so I'm not sure on the differences between the variants

[@mickbee7871]

I bought my 2012 86 gts 2 years ago and today it's still going like a rocket .

[@maxregal8889]

Tim's review rating 2.0/5. Pointless reviewing an automatic and then bagging it as the people who choose this option only care about how it looks. Also, it is a 2+2 sports car, no babies allowed. Now, just quietly, this car does not need more power, (at least not if you want to have fun but still hang onto your licence).

[@AJS86]

All the people that whine about power don't know how to drive it. The XU1 Torana "needed" more power at Bathurst but it still beat Falcon GTs with V8s

[@poppyblu7001]

this review almost made me not get the 86 ... unfortunately, I went with what I wanted, and I love the car. my purpose wasn't for racing, it was just every day driving to work and just going out. i just love the interior, although it can only fit 4 people inside the car, its only on a special event where there will be 4 people in the car. the car is good for everyday drive. if you want a fast sports car, I don't recommend this though

[@AJS86]

Mine is a 2015. Curious to know if you still have it

[@AJS86]

It's the most fun daily driver car. The best non Porsche to drive. If you want a fast sports car buy a 911...

[@getme1ksubswithoutvideos751]

Is the ride smooth

[@Sydhophop]

Why would you want to put a kid in your 86? It's clearly not a family car. Why bother whingeing about the stroller/kid 'problem'? Utterly irrelevant.

[@TimRobson]

Because blokes who can afford A$35k sports cars have kids?

[@Tiger_Pawzzzzz]

For 35 K it should have a hatch version with room at the back for the kids.

[@seqouiaflame]

I fit both my sons (3 and 5) in the back of my BRZ! Also, WTF is he driving an auto?!?! Manual is the only way to go!

[@Metalkicker]

It's a small sports car not a Camry or Corolla. If you want a car that is sporty and can take kids then get a sporty 4 door.

[@mickbee7871]

Back seats go down so you can carry a full set of tyres to the track and then some 😀

[@aliyazici5378]

This guy definitely had a stroke before driving the car. Doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[@bimmerlife5452]

what dumb review loll

[@mojojoji5493]

Supra TT he sets it to be this "family/cruiser" witch isn't what this car is meant to be at all he undermines the auto witch isn't bad but decent and he just basically says that the car isn't good because it's the same car as 2012 and the sales has not raised

[@1over137]

Having owned a 2014 and now a 2017 the suspension changes are noticable, but I wouldn't listen to this particular reviewers assessment on the changes. The car is still darty and frisky, still turns in like a dream. The main noticeable changes to the driving is the softening of the rear anti-roll bar and increased rear camber. While this provides more rear-end grip it doesn't stop it from powersliding. What it does do is makes the oversteer more progressive and less snappy. The cost is that on fast highways tighter bends leave you with a feeling of the rear of the car leaning noticably. It seems to occur at a certain load and can be initially a little disconcerting as the rear of the car almost suddenly seems to compress and tuck in. The same feeling in the 2014 meant the rear was about to come loose, but not so in the 2017. You get used to it and learn to love it. Feels more like a point you can trust to put the car to, to know the suspension is nicely loaded and the car settled in the corner ready to push hard. As to the softening of the dampers for ride quality, they are minimal. It stops the car "tramping" and "skipping" on rough road in corners and makes day to day driving more comfortable, but... it is still very slight and only someone who has driven both for a while would notice.

[@turbo_jimmy4065]

Paul Campbell thanks for this real world owners review. It was much more useful the the twat on the video.

[@derickramirez1898]

Wish more people went in depth on car dynamics like this, love to see it man

[@TimRobson]

@@turbo_jimmy4065 No need to be rude, mate.

[@AJS86]

Ill keep my 2015 until the OEM shocks die and I'll put in some racing series spec MCAs in it. Just a bit of fun

[@Biggus63]

Well, if you'd reviewed the manual with the 5kw power increase and shorter gearing I may have found the review relevant. The reviewer may have decided he doesn't want an 86 but I just bought one and couldn't be happier. I live in country Australia and I already have a dual cab ute as a daily drive, so the 86 is just for scooting around on secondary roads when I feel like enjoying a drive. Underpowered? Not in my book. I think it has plenty of go, more than enough to get yourself into trouble with the law. It sure isn't a drag racer, but on the back roads it's an absolute weapon, and a joy to drive. It was a toss up between this and an MX5, and since it rains here a lot the coupe got the nod. I've driven a lot of cars in my 55 years, but never anything that is so much fun as the 86.

[@JensonWongKS]

Well said

[@josebeltran8456]

Still a great car. Fun to drive and all, but I really think whats killing the new 86 is the 30K+ price tag. I bought mine back in 2013 when they were just over 20 grand. An excellent price for what you get and within alot of people's range. I saw the writing on the wall when they boosted the price for the "Monogram Edition" and paired it with Scion's haggle-free pure pricing. Toyota wanted to cash in on the infamous Initial D Tax. A sad day indeed. Also, my two cents...If he's reviewing an automatic version, then this is not going to be the sport enthusiast perspective

[@NBASFAN]

Jose Beltran money changes. 20k then, isn't 20k now.

[@Dtt4]

It's still around $25,000. $30,000 is the top models.

[@abcdefg8059]

So are you saying the earlier models are better than the newer revamped ones ?

[@troymunson631]

How is the head and leg room,I am 6' 3 ,is it comfortable for a taller person?

[@TimRobson]

Same height here, Tony. It's *just* big enough for me, with the seat all the way back. Headroom is good enough to wear a helmet without discomfort. Cheers

[@ronaldweed4599]

So love mine its awesome. The trunk is a trunk it's a sport car. My wife is 68 this year I'm 74 this year it's so fun. Do not loose heart a faster one will be here on 2021. As for me I love this pony'

[@edz2974]

The new 86 has a problem. Toyota has been wrong in its advertising and reviewers like this one are expecting a 911 killer, which it is not. The 86 like it's predecessor the FRS, is a sports car, a drivers car. That is, not a baby hauler or family truckster. It's for people that love to drive twisty roads or get under the hood and tinker. That IS what the original concept was.The new tweeks implemented by Toyota are damaging this otherwise fine ride. I would've stiffened up the suspension a bit and added a turbo option and that's it. No heated seats, two zone climate control or a useless aluminum wing. The 86, FRS was a beautiful enthusiast car and it still can be however a Toyota needs to get behind the original package, forget the luxuries and keep the price down otherwise this car will fail just like it's doing. Not a good move Toyota especially since the original has a proven following.

[@TheHumanlpod]

in australia you get 2 specs, 'gt' & 'gts', america's frs/new 86 is somewhere in between those 2 specs. australia's gts gets brz's dual zone climate control and your 86 doesnt get the wing.

[@lobsterwhisperer7932]

i agree, its basically a two door corolla

[@spectre5982]

I’m 21 years old and wanting to buy my first car in Australia, I just want to know if a 2020 gt86 gts with 50km is worth buying in early 2025 or should I spend a bit extra to buy a used 2023 Gr86 at $38k aud?

[@carsguide]

Given the extra size and torque, I'd go for the 2023 GR86, as it also scores a bit more safety too depending on spec. But if your budget is a bit too stretched for that, any 86/BRZ is fine as long as they haven't been thrashed and have a full-service history. I hope this helps. -Byron

[@spectre5982]

@@carsguide thanks

[@eugenewang4650]

i made the mistake of buying a new car that young, dont do it- focus on getting into a house instead. Get a 2014-2021 gt86 (avoid 2012-2013 zn6 and 2022-2023 zn8 due to reliability concerns). for 20-25k instead. Or even better- an older NC mx5 for 10-15k.

[@winglessang31]

The car’s perfect for what it is. People are just stupid. They want to see all this development on a car they supposedly like and has the potential to be better. The only way that stuff happens is by motivating the auto maker by buying it.

[@felixgarcia2567]

Yet the most fun and reliable

[@jasoncampbell7765]

Terrible review. You compare trunk size problems on a sports car? You praised the MX5 yet it doesn't have a bigger trunk, has way too much body roll, just as under powered, just as expensive, and has interior rubbing noises from Rear View Mirror when pulling hard into turns. 86 is the better car though I agree it needs to be about $5k less starting out.

[@jasonpark5152]

The essence of 86 remains the same. Just other cars get better within the same price range.

[@KareemAbawi]

well said

[@VincentK.McMahon]

Despite some of the obvious flaws the 86 has for me, this review isn't good at all and doesn't address the actual pros and cons of the car in a rational manner. The 86 was built for a certain type of driver (a niche market if you will) and it's as though the reviewer has completely ignored this fact, making the car out to be a complete failure which it isn't. If you search YT you'll find much better and far more balanced reviews of the car than this 6 minute trash.

[@Eric-kw1lu]

That European model with the auto gearbox is so different than the manual ones in the US

[@mojojoji5493]

Eric D does the auto seem better in the USA

[@seqouiaflame]

I got a manual. Wouldn't touch an auto in this!

[@jenssenvaldez3051]

I bought a auto, and I used to drive a manual. I actually like the torque converter with the turbo. shifting in manual mode is actually good compare to the old ones.

[@ProdBySKCBEATS]

Best car for single people who can afford

[@howie_horace]

why are we shaming the 86 for its boot space and interior? its boot and interior is also largest in a coupe segment. but this is not what the 86 is all about

[@slowoldboy]

Braking into a corner says it all ...

[@kevina6106]

Is this car suitable for someone who is 4'9?

[@nickess9773]

hell yeah it is

[@ipockyjp4041]

Hello to the people who has driving experience! i have a 1 question. Question:I'm planning to buy this car, but im a beginner. no experience at all. should i buy this car or just a normal AT car?

[@OmyTempest]

iPocky JP I suggest you get a car that is practical, compliant, safe and gives you peace of mind

[@jenssenvaldez3051]

sounds risky.. follow your guts

[@paulsb1097]

It's an amazing car it's worth it. Test drive it. Both manual and auto if you want. Great car to learn stick on btw. And on the other part honestly I live in a trafficed area so I opted for the auto the transmission is not sluggish or slow to shift as this review keeps saying. Granted it's not a duel clutch it's still pretty fast to shift. Manuals great for being more engaged in the driving feel but the auto in this is not bad if you choose it :p Give the car a shot you might be surprised. Best thing about this car is it has so much potential with the mod community. I'm about to change headers and exsaust flash a stage 2 tune then maybe down the line a stage 3 e85 tune to get as much out of the car while I keep it naturally asperated.

[@fatboy19831]

Dude....Drive the manual. Much shorter gears more power less of a torque dip. Wile the car rides better the turn in and chassis rigidity is also better. You can fit a front facing child seat and have full room for the front two passengers. You put a small umbrella stroller in the back.

[@TheWTFsauce]

Can I talk about how it seems outside the USA Toyota is making better versions of their cars and selling them

[@murtazasalman8838]

TheWTFsauce USA is Toyota's largest market..they experiment with the sales of the 86 by selling it outside of USA, if all goes well, they'll produce 86's in USA

[@seqouiaflame]

The 86 and the BRZ are made by Subaru in their Ota Plant in Japan. Toyota doesn't make this car, nonetheless have a better version outside the USA. It's not built in the States. Manufactured in Japan and goes world wide from there. Japan produces the best cars in the world. Can't compare to other Japanese cars built outside of Japan.

[@nikitis13]

ITS NOT TOO LATE. Toyota could save this segment by remaking a new version that typifies the original Corolla Sprinter (AE86). Ironically, in hindsight, it's what people really wanted even though back in 2012 the car industry hadn't realised it. 1: Raise the roof height most people don't enjoy clambering down into low slung cabins like a Lotus, remember in order to increase sales and save this vehicle from extinction it needs to appeal to a larger demographic, people still want a modicum of practicality for daily use 2: Therefore, make it a "lift back" and drop the coupe design, in order to increase cabin space. 3: Return the engine to an inline 4 and tune exhaust accordingly for a similar sound to the original 4AG making for easier valve clearance checks and plug servicing, thus reducing service costs and labour. 5: Re-style and capture what many car manufactures have achieved in recreating past classics into modern day sales winners, i.e Mini, Fiat 500 only this time with a nod to the 1980's simple clean Japanese design, Ta-Da! You now have a Toyota 86 that not only remains a faithful RWD sports car but is now has the practicality of a hatch-back with decent luggage capacity, better ride height, a sweet sounding inline four engine and a very cool 1980's styling cue that plays homage to the original. I hope Toyota at least considers this before its too late.

[@AJS86]

Umm... Yeah no. You realise the new engine would be a DOHC even if an inline 4. Which means timing chain off for any valve clearance checks or adjustment. My first car was an AE86 I WOULD NOT give up my GT 86 for that any day. Give me a smooth high revving boxer 4 any day over that carby 4-A engine

[@Redemption2022]

It's a great car if it was 20k. With the outdated interior and 200hp with only 150lb of torque it's just not worth 30k. If anything everyone is just buying a used frs for like 18k cause it's the same thing

[@047thRonin]

My man reached that point of his life when exciting has a different meaning. I’d rather get my expert tips from Chris Harris and Jeremy Clarkson who don’t ask cars to behave differently that what they were designed for

[@vaztion]

Toyota build the GT86 because they can; and as a convincing massage to the people; that they still passionated and honoring their heritage; I understand the prospective and point of view of this review; but certainly is not the best way you should see this car;…

[@dame8518]

Cant beleive i made it 3:45 in and hes complaining about the auto trans LOL, you dont buy this car in automatic and then complain about the slow transmission

[@eugenewang4650]

The AT is an old school slushbox- driven my mate's AT 86 and it ruins the car. I own a manual and its 10x better- its really designed to be driven stick. Short clutch with perfect weight- not too heavy not too spongy. Short throws with minimal distance between steering wheel and shift knob. Pedals are barebones basic rubber and plastic however brake and accelerator are close together for heel toeing. Theyve made very smart design decisions that maximise the low budget to build this car

[@supercededman]

A pram? Are you insane? What sort of numbnut is thinking of family car and Toyota 86 in the same sentence? Get a grip. It's a 2-DOOR (babies????) sports coupe.

[@adswu2008]

They have done what the Japanese do best ...Make it for the masses ..it wont be made for much longer

[@jorgeguty5310]

drift car, not a drag race car, perfect for me :)

[@Screenwriting]

Ssshazzy?

[@Cobb]

It was really cool when it came out, but that magic has kind of left and just starting to look like any other compact coupe. Maybe something will happen to bring that magic back to the vehicle.

[@BOEHHO89]

Not enough power for the USA .

[@0308wk]

The video does looks professional, but the emcee doesnt

[@alansmilealot]

WTF he's driving on the right side but using an automatic...... my mind is blown. I thought only the people in the states were the only people to choose an automatic on a sports car that can be ordered with a manual. I like the car regardless of the horse power specs, the 0 to 60 is better than the car I'm driving now

[@TimRobson]

Aussies are taking up autos at a rate of notes, unfortunately. Most cars sell more than 80pc in auto form, while I think the 86 is more 60/40 to auto.

[@eugenewang9008]

manuals outnumber autos 2 to 1 on used 86s on carsales

[@okaythisisepic2128]

Honestly 86 autos can be driven in manual mode by paddles so it isn’t too bad in auto

[@ARobFpv007]

OMG I bet he drives a cherry 🍒

[@peterk4501]

why would you want to buy a turbo charged car..

[@Rawnfella]

Peter K people like to turn themselves into telephone pole sandwiches

[@akent46]

lol more thumbs down than up, says something!

[@whitenight5182]

funny it has 86 thousand views

[@vh448]

interior is so ugly. I know the purpose was to give it a retro look but please update it Toyota. exterior looks great though.

[@TheHumanlpod]

it does have a shitty interior, worse than the yaris minus the seats and steering wheel. but to upgrade the interior means to bump up the price, which is contradictory to the identity & purpose of this car

[@grantourismo0109]

Too expensive , 30000 aud

[@lucienpetrus6906]

toyota damn why dont you listen, give the 86 more damn power the mazda miata is even faster than the 86 do you want to make money listen then what the people want damnit

[@ashneel]

Cvt. 😂😂😂

[@OSKARSY11]

What a crappy car. Think i will by a daihatsu charade instead. Thanks to the reviewer for steering me clear of this lemon.

[@brianabbey3969]

Typical, car programs I was trying to find the negatives

[@RavagHer]

if ur gonna buy this car u might as well get the Miata Rf which pretty much bets this car in everything other than cargo capacity. there really is no need to buy this car.