Toyota Vs Jeep: Which one is better Off Road? | 4 Runner, Grand Cherokee, and Gladiator

In this video we look at some of the differences off road between the Jeep Gladiator, Jeep Grand Cherokee and Toyota 4 Runner. We talk about the different drive trains and suspension heights and show real world off road examples.
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[@steveeichelberger806]

Great comparison! It really shows the difference in wheelbase compared to the Gladiator, and how valuable a lift is, even with stock tires. 4th gen V8 4Runner owner here. Your videos really opened my eyes to the capability of the Grand Cherokee.

[@darthtyranus7683]

Horrid comparison 1 Toyota vs 4 Jeeps?? Make it even 4 To 4 or at least 1 more Toyota like an FJ Cruiser and a Landcruiser would be better fared

[@waltermeono5253]

@@darthtyranus7683 Maybe this comparison should be better than yours: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3yVmoihgsl6abs Greetings from Costa Rica.

[@glaffoon1]

I have only recently discovered your channel. I’m trying to watch all of your videos. I’ll watch and comment as often as I can. Great stuff and very informative for us Grand Cherokee lovers.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Happy you found us!

[@darthtyranus7683]

@@ProdigalOverland I would recommend evening the playing field in the spirit of fair sportsmanship add some FJ cruisers to it and or a Landcruiser

[@rhdmoscowchapstyleusa8966]

Great video and great channel!! According to your experience, how many psi would you recommend for this terrain for wk2? 255/75 r17 mud tires. Thank you!

[@T4R_4WD]

Those Bash Fab sliders are looking good on that 4Runner 👀

[@bashfabrication]

No kidding! Putting in work, nice to see a random video with my work on it!

[@HSwest1]

The trd off-road with rear locker, atrac and KDSS is a beast off-road. Also…the supercharger for the 4runner brings it up to a V8 power and torque.

[@garrykennedy5484]

My concern with the supercharger is longevity. I have not found anyone stating if it affects the longevity of the motor or tranny yet or not.

[@UncleBildo]

I've been super impressed with my '19 Cherokee Trailhawk...... The shorter wheelbase, locker rear, and all, it goes effortlessly where my F-150 struggles. Then, it has road manners like I never would have believed. No "regerts" 3 years in (and only 23K miles). 2.0 T is a hoot, too. Hoping for some longevity there, but it's fun as hell in the short run anyhow! heh heh heh Tires can make as much difference as anything. Have been repeatedly shown that traction is moderately important...... Good work, keep it up.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

What is the bully bar on the summit? Trying to find one that will work with my ACC on my '14 JGC diesel

[@justindove3620]

Great video I got a wk2 2012 summit with 20 rims with ko2 can I go off road

[@phlfly10]

I need to come out with you for the a full size trucks like mine Titan XD

[@deathbeforedishonor1931]

I had no idea y’all are from NC until I say the plates. Me and my wk2 are in western NC. Maybe I’ll catch y’all on the trail sometime. 👊🏼

[@ProdigalOverland]

Sounds good!

[@Renegade040]

Check this gladiator built by Patriot in Australia, maybe a little over the top, but boy fixes the breakover problem I think.

[@MrKozanitis]

Greetings from Greece, Brad. Hot, hot, hot! Both your video and the temp here at around 100F! Loved this comparison which I found very informative. See y'all in November.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Sounds good. Stay safe!

[@bobvedder2451]

My gladiator has the 2 inch MOPAR lift with 35 inch BFG KO2s. We traded my wife's cherokee trailhawk for the 4 door wrangler with the turbo charged four banger. We love our jeeps!

[@MrKozanitis]

Lauren, you merit a different comment on your excellent driving skills; not just as an excellent spotter! "Way to go, girl" as Brad loves to say! And I love to hear him say it! My greetings and love to the children.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks Evan!

[@MSchumacherfan]

Which budget overland vehicle do you recommend? Jeep Commander or Land Rover LR3?

[@zoltanliszkai2162]

I was gifted a 1998 chevy s-10 type blazer with low miles, in all honesty is that thing any good on the type of terrian you run on

[@jimotten6206]

What the Toyota you have to turn on the A-Track with the rear locker.

[@GS-re9iv]

Couple more things Brad. The Jeep GC Trailhawk has a better towing capacity than the 4Runner, but the 4Runner has a better payload and cargo capacity (though neither vehicle is a diesel Excursion). I've driven both, and on the road the Trailhawk is in another league than the 4Runner. For me that made the difference, as much as I'd like to be off-road all the time, but most of my miles are on pavement.

[@RichardsWorld]

I didn't like how the 4Runner was on the highway, the fuel mileage is much less, the technology of the entertainment system was much older and terrible, and I couldn't lay down in the back if I wanted to sleep inside. The Grand Cherokee has enough room for me to lay down and sleep in the back. That might be moot since I have never done that, but that option is available. The Toyota should win in the reliability and have less depreciation though. If a newer model of 4Runner comes out that might make the current 4Runners depreciate.

[@stillkicking8693]

With the grand Cherokee tires sizes , I have a 2011 overland with low mileage but want to run larger tires . What size tires and rims can you go up to and not rub?

[@rhdmoscowchapstyleusa8966]

I put in rubicon wheels with LT 255/75 R17 mud tires and no problem whatsoever, hope that helps!

[@glaffoon1]

Another thing to consider when comparing the Grand Cherokee and the 4Runner is fuel economy. The Hemi Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is rated much better in both city and Highway. And the V6 in the Grand Cherokee really spanks the V6 in the 4Runner. And today, with nearly $5 per gallon gas, this is significant. A friend of mine just bought a new 4Runner, and I’ll take my 6 year old Grand Cherokee any day.

[@garrykennedy5484]

I think I've noticed that the A Trac on the Yota does not work at higher RPMs. I'll have to see on mine. Haven't had it long enough to experiment much yet. I could theorize that it's to protect the driveline from being overloaded and breaking things. But I've paid attention to it on other videos where the A Trac works at lower RPMs until they get to a certain point then it turns off???? Just speculating of course.

[@_TenaciousD_]

One thing that can negatively or positively affect the performance of BLD is brake components. If they're worn BLD will be useless, if you have good cond instant bite pads on clean rotors will give the factory BLD the best chance to work as best it can.

[@glaffoon1]

I was interested in this video. I have a 6 year old Grand Cherokee and am looking for another 4 wheeler to add to my garage. I’m trying to decide between a Wrangler 2 door, a Wrangler Unlimited, and a second Grand Cherokee. I’ve already eliminated the 4Runner as an option.

[@billj5645]

I'm on the Wrangler Unlimited side myself. I have the Sport without all of the upgraded drivetrain bits of the Rubicon but I still take it on difficult trails in Utah.

[@ColtsNation317]

Why have you eliminated the 4runner as an option?

[@DorDor400]

Curious what tire pressure you guys run on trails like these!

[@ProdigalOverland]

Right around 20

[@rhdmoscowchapstyleusa8966]

@@ProdigalOverland thank you!!

[@jimcochrane4679]

So much importance must be considered on tires, experience in driving these conditions ie forward momentum aggressively, and healthy fear. I’m a 4 Runner 5th Gen owner. Had I my druthers, would never had let my 98 Sahara 4.0 go as well, my 1984 Grand Wagoneer; as well my 1975 Jeep Cherokee, go… Letting go of that 1974 Karman Ghia death trap, regretful. I test drove a Rubicon for 3 hours, loved it’s interior, but found it sub-par. Next day I purchased a 2017 4 Runner. It’s bitchin’, really, but I’d rather have a 1988 black Porsche Carrera wide body and a home in Rancho Santa Fe. 😂🤙🏻👁

[@anthonywarren3656]

Worth noting the new WL Grand Cherokee also has a disconnecting sway bar and even higher air suspension, up to 11.3 inches, over the WK2's max height. Thanks for the video. Fun to watch. For my money, its the Grand Cherokee over the Toyota all day, every day. I've had a WJ (QDII) and a WK2 (QTII) so am a little bias, but I think for good reason.

[@user-ii5dx8wh5f]

Monocoque Body with Built-in Ladder Frame They say that superior off-road handling capability could only come at the expense of on-road smoothness. They have obviously never driven Grand Cherokee . By incorporating a lightweight and highly rigid monocoque body with a built-in ladder frame that provides added resistance to torsion and flexing and fixing them atop a dynamic independent suspension, Grand Cherokee achieves an unprecedented combination of all-terrain control and luxury-sedan comfort. For added durability, grand cherokee now makes more extensive use of galvanized steel body panels, while the new aluminum hood panel reduces weight for better handling.

[@billj5645]

When climbing ledges and steep obstacles where you are in low range and trying to apply a lot of torque, I don't think the brake lock has enough capacity to be that helpful but it's better than completely open diff. It probably works better in more level situations on ice and mud. I've driven a JLU Wrangler Sport quite a bit on trails in Utah with its open diffs. With its better articulation it keeps all 4 times on the ground where they get traction so I've never had an occasion where one wheel wanted to spin. I'm going to do my best to stay away from mud. I've often wondered why manufacturers don't put Torsen LSD devices into offroad vehicles. They work well and there is a lot less hardware to install. I've seen H1 Hummers on difficult trails in Utah and they do well with the Torsen LSD. I went back and forth in my mind for a long time and finally bought the JLU Wrangler for myself instead of the WK2 Grand Cherokee. I'm more accepting of the shortcomings of the Wrangler in daily driving. My daughter has a 2WD WK2 and wants a 4WD WK2. If she can find one that she can afford I will probalby have to help with modifications to it. She has driven my Wrangler on several trips and doesn't want one for herself. Toyota's philosophy has always been "adequate for the intended purpose". They don't believe in pushing the limits, if the V6 works for most people then don't use a V8, etc. And in their minds most people don't go on trails like we do.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Nice comments here!

[@user-ii5dx8wh5f]

trailhawk grand cherokee very durable and much better on off road than toyota.

[@mattalexander4699]

​@@user-ii5dx8wh5fdon't kid yourself.

[@garrykennedy5484]

I think I've noticed that the A Trac on the Yota does not work at higher RPMs. I'll have to see on mine. Haven't had it long enough to experiment much yet. I could theorize that it's to protect the driveline from being overloaded and breaking things. But I've paid attention to it on other videos where the A Trac works at lower RPMs until they get to a certain point then it turns off???? Just speculating of course.

[@patk8689]

FYI Late model 2022 TrailHawks can only be had with the Quadra Trac ll systems. That's why there are so many in dealer lots here in southern NY. No one is stupid enough to pay $10,000 more for a '22 model over a '21 model and get a less capable vehicle at the same time.

[@gregors5552]

2019 has quadra drive II🤔 with 3.6 and crd

[@darthtyranus7683]

I politely disagree those cherokees have way less ground clearance than a 4runner (no hate) I'm a big fan of budget builds I built an SR5 4x4 4runner with only Atrac I test it on nearly identical trails in this vid it takes a good know how but an sr5 4x4 can handle those rocks with ease If proper techniques are used

[@user-ii5dx8wh5f]

Many people say that there is no frame in wk2, but it is integrated welded!! Its torsional strength is higher than that of toyota SUVs and so on with a classic frame!!

[@user-ii5dx8wh5f]

I will also note the independent suspension / chassis and its elements of the grand cherokee, it is very durable and hardy, allowing it to withstand heavy loads / impacts! The thickness of the front and rear levers of the trailhawk is incredibly thick!!! Applies to all suspension elements

[@mattalexander4699]

😂😂

[@archiscapes1503]

First pick…Landrover Series IIA..best of all time. But since it’s between jeep and Toyota…Toyota 4runner properly kitted out all day long!!

[@user-ii5dx8wh5f]

I choose the jeep grand cherokee trailhawk for the same reliability, durability and off-road reliability as the 4runner but still comfortable on the highway!!

[@darthtyranus7683]

No hate but these modern cherokees lack 4runner reliability it's the reason I left Jeeps I love wranglers but the Jeep brand has passed so many hands since 1975 now

[@odgc8]

@@darthtyranus7683 came here for this lol If you're buying a jeep for reliability, you're buying the wrong vehicle by Far.

[@IdahoCatholic]

​@Owen D you say that buts I've owned several jeeps and all have been reliable. I've also owned 2 toyotas and one was not reliable.

[@ajmalsakhizada8329]

4runner is bast

[@Outlaw_Media]

Why do people take brand new vehicles on trails like this if they are not willing to accept the damage that comes with it?

[@DonJulio510]

Beats me. I know I wont be taking my 22 4runner on trails like these till its atleast paid off

[@ColtsNation317]

I wonder the same

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

4runner short wheel base soild rear axel wins every time

[@streetx1602]

not in rock crawling. everywhere else yes

[@k1assic]

any Jeep platform with a solid front axle is inherently better off-road anywhere articulation matters. any Jeep without a solid front axle is not a Jeep. No Cherokee has been a Jeep since 2004.

[@kennethcurtis1856]

Did you know the original Waggoneers/Grand W were independent front suspension. I guess they weren't real Jeeps?

[@mountainmonk5874]

@@kennethcurtis1856 Wrong

[@dean8067]

Solid front suspension is not the be all end all of off roading. It's annoying as hell all these people who are so crazy caught up on this like it's the only thing that matters.

[@k1assic]

@@dean8067 for articulation it is in fact the end all of off-roading (rock crawling, uneven surfaces, the typical stuff everyday people consider "real" off-roading). For pre running, high speed washboard (things that cost an arm and a leg in suspension to keep your vehicle from destroying itself to begin with), puttering around overlanding in non challenging terrain where you can make it thru with any 4wd and a decent set of tires... or anywhere articulation isn't required a solid axle is inferior. That's no secret solid axles aren't great for comfort or "normal" handling

[@mountainmonk5874]

@@dean8067 It does have it's merits, having wheeled both, solid axle is the way to go. This comes frow experience.

[@sha6mm]

This just shows one needs at least 2 inch lift

[@59ersfootball]

1:44 you dropped something

[@ProdigalOverland]

Ya his hitch pin fell right out!

[@rubenfranko6600]

Lol that Jeep is not going to last with those blows.that guy it’s not nice at all with the Cherokee.

[@4WDisLife]

I am a Toyota biased jeep lover 😂 Nice jeep contents btw, if you’d ever up in rausch creek area, hit me up. My channels features lots of Toyota rigs

[@motorhead_jt21]

First

[@805gregg]

Had a Toyota, new engine at 80,000 miles, no thanks