Jeep Wrangler 4xe Rubicon vs Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro vs MUD! Which Off-Road SUV is Best? PT.2

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In the second part in our series comparing the Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro and Jeep Wrangler 4xe Rubicon we take the SUVs though our muddy trail, the Left Hook.
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@nict5828
@nict5828 2 жыл бұрын
I own 3 4 runners, 1997, 2004, 2015. Still driving my 1997, it has 325K and counting.
@agaldona
@agaldona Жыл бұрын
4Runners and Jeeps are not the same, we all know he hates when someone "talks" bad about the jeep, he is a Jeep guy. He saw the Jeep crashing test and he flipped the F-out, deeply inside he hates 4Runners 🥴. I have a jeep and I have a TRD, I like both but I like to overland better with the 4Runner.
@customimprovement
@customimprovement 2 жыл бұрын
4Runner off-road , springs, shocks and TKOs. That’s all you need. My last Jeep was in the shop more than it was on the road.
@jesseashmore8426
@jesseashmore8426 2 жыл бұрын
It amazes me how many people switch from Jeep to Toyota because of reliability issues, but dudes with Wranglers will tell you it's never failed them. They refuse to admit they break constantly. Thank you for your honesty.
@user-rw2dr5my1s
@user-rw2dr5my1s 2 жыл бұрын
I’m about to switch from a Jeep to a Toyota. The Jeep had so many issues, I spent more time fixing the issues than actually driving it.
@jesseashmore8426
@jesseashmore8426 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-rw2dr5my1s My dad had a Jeep and it blew a head gasket with just over 100k. He traded it in for a Tacoma. He finally listened to me!
@user-rw2dr5my1s
@user-rw2dr5my1s 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesseashmore8426 never again, everyone told me not to get a Jeep and I didn’t listen, hopefully I can sell my Jeep and get a Toyota soon.
@xxwagyllamabootyxx8554
@xxwagyllamabootyxx8554 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-rw2dr5my1s no matter what even with trade in it should hold a decent value till depending on shape and year you could get 30%-40% in todays market
@matthewputnam7486
@matthewputnam7486 2 жыл бұрын
I came to the comments to complain about the lack of vehicle knowledge by the otherwise excellent presenter--and then my heart was warmed to see the KZbin community had already taken him to task in every way. Thank you KZbin🤣
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam 3 жыл бұрын
This is a weird video. Kind of expect someone experienced enough to make videos like this to use 4 Lo and the appropriate rear lockers and off road mode. This video plays like a city slicker getting in a Toyota for the first time and trying to off road. Then let’s address the tires and tire pressures. This video says more about the operator than it does that ability of the vehicle.
@pro4xtrdpro376
@pro4xtrdpro376 2 жыл бұрын
Facts. Knows nothing of the MTS or atrac
@earnesttrent3119
@earnesttrent3119 2 жыл бұрын
To not know you have to be in 4low to engage the rear locker in a Toyota is ridiculous. If your gonna do videos like this you need to know the vehicle.
@pro4xtrdpro376
@pro4xtrdpro376 2 жыл бұрын
@@earnesttrent3119 true
@lukestoyz
@lukestoyz 2 жыл бұрын
Did you notice he went straight for the 4low in the Jeep? Biased much
@IBtrollinyoufool
@IBtrollinyoufool 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I kept playing back the video and couldn’t figure out why he just didn’t go 4LO. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@drjasonwhittaker
@drjasonwhittaker 2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t do your homework on the multi-traction terrain control and how to use them.
@andyham6094
@andyham6094 3 жыл бұрын
The 4Runner isn’t saying trust me I got this, it’s saying put me in 4lo and lock my rear locker and then put the mts in mud mode. It would’ve went right through that little bit of mud even with the stock tires.
@seabiscuit726142
@seabiscuit726142 3 жыл бұрын
4Low won't help much in slippery situations. More torque applied to the wheels will make them spin easier. That's good for very steep inclines and rock crawling.
@toddmayta7615
@toddmayta7615 3 жыл бұрын
A-trac with rear locker is the bomb. It's almost like having front and rear lockers.
@offroadkings379
@offroadkings379 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm. I have this year's TRD Pro, I can get through any of these obstacles with ease.
@vikkzx
@vikkzx 3 жыл бұрын
@@offroadkings379 I have a 2018 4runner and I can plus one you with the a Trac and locker. It's almost impossible to get stuck
@pro4xtrdpro376
@pro4xtrdpro376 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddmayta7615 it’s OP. most reviewers don’t even talk about it. Which is annoying as hell
@jneptune1540
@jneptune1540 3 жыл бұрын
I ll take the 4 runner. That keep will be in the shop in 3 years for major repairs with problems at every or every other year. That Toyota will be good for 15 years/ 200k. With just oil changes. Had 2 Jeep’s. Never again
@ivands7249
@ivands7249 2 жыл бұрын
That 4 runner will go more than 200k miles easily without any major issue
@Rockybalboa541
@Rockybalboa541 2 жыл бұрын
200k is low for the 4runners. Good luck getting that out of a hybrid Jeep
@icyfrost101
@icyfrost101 2 жыл бұрын
Okay scotty no but for real 4runner will last longer than a jeep any day
@jneptune1540
@jneptune1540 2 жыл бұрын
Last longer… I don’t know about that. Less maintenance, for sure. The jeep won’t rust out though.
@Rockybalboa541
@Rockybalboa541 2 жыл бұрын
@@jneptune1540 you are in the bottom 1 percent if you think the jeep will last longer than a 4Runner
@crsantin
@crsantin 3 жыл бұрын
You won’t beat a Jeep off road. I’d take the 4Runner though as a better all round vehicle. Better tires on the 4Runner should do the trick.
@timber543
@timber543 3 жыл бұрын
Plus the reliability
@blackgang1842
@blackgang1842 3 жыл бұрын
Jeep weak
@alecgrosk7188
@alecgrosk7188 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackgang1842 yeah I don’t trust anything coming from a Chrysler factory
@joestewart5692
@joestewart5692 3 жыл бұрын
carlo are you kidding me? take your jeep to moab utah.. every tacoma will be yanking that jeep up every thing.. no wheel base on a jeep.
@deejayimm
@deejayimm 3 жыл бұрын
@@joestewart5692 4 door wrangler has a truck like wheelbase, which in my neck of the woods is bad.
@james2042
@james2042 3 жыл бұрын
Doing this in 4 high was a disservice to both, you're in mud, this is why they have 4 low, use it. The systems aren't needed in 4 high because 4 high is for high speed offroading where precision control and super low end torque isn't needed, like actual well defined dirt trails and snow if it's bad enough. I'd rather my vehicle have to be in second gear in 4 low than first in 4 high to get the speed I want
@michaelm9871
@michaelm9871 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... Them not switching into 4 low at any point didn't make a lot of sense. The biggest factor here was the driver.
@chrisguapo69
@chrisguapo69 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to add that most Multi-terrain functions only work in 4Lo. I think only mud/sand features work in 4Hi. Also, ATRAC using brake pressure to control wheelspin and transfer power to the wheels with traction, MTS uses a combination of brake pressure and power regulation so that's why you had a slight loss in power. On an incline you should have just used ATRAC on 4Lo and if that doesn't work power-on the rear locker (which you can only do in 4Lo). MTS selection is best on relatively level ground when you're not in an incline and a dead stop.
@james2042
@james2042 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisguapo69 yeah exactly. But they're reviewers, you think they ever know what they're doing?
@chrisguapo69
@chrisguapo69 2 жыл бұрын
@@james2042 Yeah, it was hilariously rediculously, entertaining watching him commenting on how the truck "isn't doing what he want's it to do." LOL!!!
@james2042
@james2042 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisguapo69 Like I just wish that in mud/deep snow modes it would auto enable 4 low, like force these reviewers to use the truck right lmao
@ericsly3469
@ericsly3469 3 жыл бұрын
Saw a 4xe in the wild for the first time yesterday, the guy driving it knew not much about it, but it was cool to see
@jeremy8715
@jeremy8715 3 жыл бұрын
Typical of most buyers, unfortunately.
@crisbeveridge
@crisbeveridge 3 жыл бұрын
MTS is a terrain specific application of the A-TRAC system. Mud, Sand, Dirt is the only MTS mode available in high range; it allows more wheel spin than the other modes. You can’t lock the diff in high either. Why not put it in 4 low and take advantage of the vehicles off-road tools?
@andyham6094
@andyham6094 3 жыл бұрын
Cause he’s a jeep fanboy. Always tries to make toyotas look bad just like tfl used to do before everybody called them out on it in the comments and now they pretend like they love toyotas just for the views. Why not use the mts atrac rear locker and OF COURSE 4LO!!! Why even review a trd pro if you aren’t going to use its features. Might as well reviewed an sr5. So many reviewers don’t do vehicles justice by using its certain special features in off road comparisons and tests.
@PeakDecline
@PeakDecline 3 жыл бұрын
This is a serious limitation of Toyota's setup. Needing to use 4 low to lock your rear? WHY? A-TRAC will never be a substitute for a real locker either no matter the situation. It's also a total joke what Toyota thinks is appropriate tires for their top off-road spec. I'm really, really hoping none of this nonsense translates to the new Tundra. That'll be a serious disappointment. But I still can't believe you can't even get a rear locker in a Tundra. Let alone a rear + front as every serious off-road vehicle should have as standard equipment.
@charlesgibbs1071
@charlesgibbs1071 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 manual transfer case shifter in Ted's
@charlesgibbs1071
@charlesgibbs1071 3 жыл бұрын
TRD that is
@useryggfdcc
@useryggfdcc 3 жыл бұрын
@@andyham6094 I went off-road up in Mattawa doing the WMAT trails. When doing one of the black trails, 93 the rear end was scraping a big rock. Then when doing down another big one, I knew body damage will happen now. Luckily my 2021 Tacoma TRD 4X4 OFFROAD Premium was already in 4low. I decided to backup and try a different angle of the massive rock. Selected MTS "rock and dirt" and selected crawl control. The Taco crawled back beautifully. In big mud puddles it performed excellent too. Something the modes don't select the first time but playing with it, it performed flawless. Good tires is a MUST too. BFG KO2 265/75/16 on my Taco.
@jameskocks4734
@jameskocks4734 3 жыл бұрын
as an owner of a 2005 4runner with the V8 i am proud to have one.
@philharris4504
@philharris4504 3 жыл бұрын
The Nitto’s on the 4Runner are the main problem. If both vehicles had the same tires, it would’ve been a much closer result. Tires are a huge factor off road.
@IWH8023
@IWH8023 3 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@robertcarr4986
@robertcarr4986 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I totally agree. Testing offroad vehicles with different tires doesn't seem right.
@collectivevids5188
@collectivevids5188 3 жыл бұрын
That’s true. But they are testing the vehicles how they come, stock.
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 2 жыл бұрын
How close of a result you want? They basically performed the same, the Toyota with better tires and a real driver would've raped the Jeep
@philharris4504
@philharris4504 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagingBad Exactly. That’s what I was trying to say.
@8bitboss929
@8bitboss929 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a Jeep guy because my family owns a keep dealership. I have always have felt that they were the Kings off-road but I think that Toyotas are as close as you’re going to get to a jeep off-road but the reliability and how long they last without breaking down it’s just in a whole Nother level. If you want something that’s going to be dependable and fun get the Toyota if you have the money to fix your vehicle all day get the jeep. Just my opinion
@vincesmith764
@vincesmith764 Жыл бұрын
That,s a fact. I been mechanicing all my life.jeeps are short and fun .like a harly..4runner can be used everyday...trouble free.
@srm6130
@srm6130 Жыл бұрын
As someone who works in automotive you stole this paragraph directly from my brain! Lol! I love the look of jeeps but couldn’t fathom signing my life away on one when I could sleep easy knowing a toyota will last forever
@RocknOverlanding
@RocknOverlanding Жыл бұрын
My ‘99 4Runner is getting close to 450000 on the odo - motor is still original, just routine maintenance- how many Jeeps can say that?? I rest my case….
@Michael-dj9zq
@Michael-dj9zq 9 ай бұрын
Keep Dealership ? Try proofreading Unbelievable
@sillyboy32
@sillyboy32 6 ай бұрын
Douche
@brucelmnop2043
@brucelmnop2043 3 жыл бұрын
I expected the Jeep to kick ass... but.... it’s a Fiat Chrysler ... say no more
@scottfast03
@scottfast03 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta learn how to use the Atrak system in 4Lo. It would have got you unstuck guaranteed. It’s low speed not flooring it to blast through it. It works amazing.
@jestervh1
@jestervh1 3 жыл бұрын
You CAN lock the rear diff in 4H in the Rubicon! Once in 4H you have to turn off traction control, then hold down traction control button again for 5 seconds so stabilitrac turns off as well. Then press off road + and it will let you lock rear. I have one so I have researched and tried it, it works!!! Love the videos!!!!!!
@willrector9716
@willrector9716 3 жыл бұрын
No way! You made my day! Thx
@joestewart5692
@joestewart5692 3 жыл бұрын
if you turn off trc. cntrl. then hold trac. ctrl for 5 seconds then adjust the vehicles clock to am instead of pm. then... roll down passenger window and hold your breath 4 8 seconds...give or take 1 second.. then push break pedal down for 2 seconds then.. hold on phone
@rhinohorn99
@rhinohorn99 2 жыл бұрын
@@joestewart5692 🤣🤣🤣
@scottromero4004
@scottromero4004 2 жыл бұрын
@@joestewart5692 still can't lock the 4runner in 4hi so...
@michaeljordan6090
@michaeljordan6090 4 ай бұрын
I can lock my rear locker in my Gladiator Mohave with off road plus mode, up to 40 miles per hour.
@boneskull4207
@boneskull4207 3 жыл бұрын
Both great vehicles for off road but you hit the nail on the head with the tires and driver. Nothing against your diving abilities just the point made makes the difference. Thanks for sharing and God bless yall
@flannelfred
@flannelfred 3 жыл бұрын
Jeep looks great congratulations on the win….I am still buying the Toyota. It just comes down to trust and knowing when I turn the key the Toyota is going to fire up and get me and my family home.
@kenstrickland6534
@kenstrickland6534 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on that. Can't beat reliability. I picked up the 2020 4runner adventure. I was going to go with the pro. But I wanna put a small lift like a 3 or 4 inch and some more aggressive tires. Didn't see the point in paying for the pro and lifting it up. The difference between mine and the pro is suspension. I have been to the beach and in 2 wheel drive I got it stuck the put it in 4 wheel drive and got it down to the frame. Put it in crawl control and it got out on its own. It's a peace of mind that I know my wife can take it anywhere and not get stuck. And make it home. Toyota 4Runner was the best choice for us.
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 2 жыл бұрын
There wasn't any "wins" the Runner did the trail as good as the Jeep, this guy just hate Toyotas
@DuaneCaldwell
@DuaneCaldwell 3 жыл бұрын
Really shows the difference in tires.
@N8RTH
@N8RTH 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt my 2020 4R Pro feels old. But I don’t worry about breaking down. Or waiting for it to do something weird. It’s just what it is. And I love it for that.
@gptint1
@gptint1 2 жыл бұрын
That's what no Jeep person wants to talk about is long term durability, all around.
@SanctumOfDreams
@SanctumOfDreams 2 жыл бұрын
@@gptint1 My JL has seen heavy on and off road abuse. Scraping, slamming and rev limiter bouncing. I've had 0 issues. Not even a recall. My buddy bought a tacoma and it lasted half a year of on road commutes before it needed a new battery, new alternator and new transmission. Times have changed a lot in 15 years or so.
@coloradomallcrawlers
@coloradomallcrawlers 3 жыл бұрын
Jeep’s traction control is quite good. I get the idea of turning it off, but I think it would make that situation even easier in 4 high. I use to be impressed with it when I wheeled in the east. The 4XE is a sweet Jeep! Great video!
@jordanfrangquist1474
@jordanfrangquist1474 3 ай бұрын
Bring back these two exact trucks in 10 years and ask which one you’d want
@johnmeeboer6044
@johnmeeboer6044 3 жыл бұрын
I love both trucks but The big difference between the jeep and the 4 runner is after five years the 4 runner will not of broken down.
@Michael_ryan91
@Michael_ryan91 3 жыл бұрын
In wisconsin the frame will be rusted in half tho. Iv seen my share of tacos break in half on lifts.
@Ramblin_Rob
@Ramblin_Rob 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I will say it appeared the attempt at slow speed through the mud and uphill in the 4Runner was a lesson learned as it seemed you matted the Jeep through that section.
@c.rodriguez7976
@c.rodriguez7976 3 жыл бұрын
Should’ve used 4LO/Rear Locker on the TRD Pro.
@CarnutMM
@CarnutMM 3 жыл бұрын
Along with ATRAC
@bellasky83
@bellasky83 3 жыл бұрын
Then he could've locked front and rear on the Jeep. No contest as to how much better the Jeep is off road. He was basically thrashing the heck out of the yota to get through. Then barely made it up the hill. Jeep said what mud/hill.
@c.rodriguez7976
@c.rodriguez7976 3 жыл бұрын
@@bellasky83 I've owned both brands. Quality of construction, reliability, and durability are superior on Toyota units. Their off road capabilities are proven globally every day as work vehicles. Wranglers break a lot and are oil leakers. What's up with Jeep's fluids seals?
@sarrum7696
@sarrum7696 3 жыл бұрын
Had to pause, your excitement is infectious! Love it! 😆 I feel like I’m there with you, because I’m getting excited. Lol 😆
@robertyoung8289
@robertyoung8289 3 жыл бұрын
GAY!!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! Thank you!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
Are you coming out to the Truck King audience Robert?
@UtahNick71
@UtahNick71 2 жыл бұрын
Jeeps have priced themselves out of my range. They aren't reliable enough to spend $60K on.
@ColoradoStreetboarding
@ColoradoStreetboarding 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. I’d say a 10k price difference isn’t much of a side by side comparison.
@artemioarevalo4335
@artemioarevalo4335 3 жыл бұрын
I like how u are giving us great details and amazing communication. Keep it up.
@ragnarocking
@ragnarocking 3 жыл бұрын
This completely changed my mind about the 4XE. Great review.
@IssaqAl-Ahmed
@IssaqAl-Ahmed 3 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, the second I heard the intro music I thought I mis-clicked a Matt's Off-road Recovery video lol. Great vid!
@trevorhowell6575
@trevorhowell6575 3 жыл бұрын
Finally the Jeep electric review I was waiting for, I put it off till today. So happy you compared it to the 4 Runner. I think they are a direct competition, but to make things interesting it would be nice to see a Defender against these 2 in a side by side competition...
@yourlame9795
@yourlame9795 2 жыл бұрын
If you trust that electric jeep you haven’t owned a Chrysler/fiat product in a long time lol
@jeremy8715
@jeremy8715 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the “off-road” tires on the 4Runner that sucks. 6:41
@tundraspecialops
@tundraspecialops 3 жыл бұрын
I was just about to comment, why are they running this test with different tires??
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 3 жыл бұрын
I like Duratracs
@markray8629
@markray8629 3 жыл бұрын
@@tundraspecialops I believe they are just running w/e comes from factory on both vehicles.
@rocksjoshua
@rocksjoshua 3 жыл бұрын
They’re literally all terrains, the Jeep having mud tires from the factory gives it a huge advantage in this test. I would like to see these 2 vehicles on the same tires, would make the test much more equal.
@tundraspecialops
@tundraspecialops 3 жыл бұрын
@@rocksjoshua agreed
@platinumempire5709
@platinumempire5709 3 жыл бұрын
Why not use the mts atrac rear locker and OF COURSE 4LOW? is this a trd pro or sr5 you are reviewing
@pro4xtrdpro376
@pro4xtrdpro376 2 жыл бұрын
Sr5 still has atrac
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 2 жыл бұрын
Because he wanted the Jeep to look good
@IBtrollinyoufool
@IBtrollinyoufool 2 жыл бұрын
4RUNNER owners know this video is suspect
@Gemini_0815
@Gemini_0815 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I like the emotions he is showing. What an authentic chunk of a guy.
@denisbrisebois7658
@denisbrisebois7658 3 жыл бұрын
You hit a good point Steve ... off-roading in a silent vehicle might just be better to see some wildlife as you drive those trails in the woods !!! Great video as always !!!
@ksavv196
@ksavv196 3 жыл бұрын
I still feel like wildlife will hear you with all that mud being ran through and water.
@LSX01Nation
@LSX01Nation 3 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@DefiantOffroad
@DefiantOffroad 2 жыл бұрын
This video proves that knowledge and ability on a given subject are not needed to be a KZbin personality.
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking from experience eh?
@sentiencepsn2714
@sentiencepsn2714 3 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian expat: I miss a lot about Canada. I do not miss the black flies. Kudos to Dad.
@89jmcfar
@89jmcfar 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome footage! Looks like a great place to have a lot of fun.
@shughes911
@shughes911 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see what the new off-road outback can do on these trails? Can you get one to try out? I personally don’t think it would do so well but would be fun to watch
@chrisa7832
@chrisa7832 3 жыл бұрын
For me because I live in michigan reliability is my priority so I would pick toyota, but I like the jeep more
@Wrangzilla
@Wrangzilla 3 жыл бұрын
Ive had 5 Wranglers since 1997. Quite a few other vehicles during this time as week including a 4Runner. My current is a 2020 JLUR 3.6 sitting on 37’s. So that shows my bias. However, I love 4Runners as well and might be my next vehicle along side with my Rubi since it’s paid for. Now I have a 2door MINI to put around in and keep miles off my Rubi.
@bobmathew3380
@bobmathew3380 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent channel. Keep Up the work
@Jonatron503
@Jonatron503 2 жыл бұрын
I’m loving my 4xe!! I’m actually happy that Ford is having so many delays. It forced me to cancel my Bronco Sport reservation and guided me towards the 4xe. I now don’t have to worry about gas for my daily drives (90% of what I’ll be doing) and then still have a badass off-roader for summer! 🥰🥰🥰
@tylergibson6418
@tylergibson6418 2 жыл бұрын
The Bronco Sport wasn’t delayed whatsoever and is already mass produced. You’re probably talking about the full sized Bronco.
@Jonatron503
@Jonatron503 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylergibson6418 Bronco Sports have been delayed if they’re fully loaded (badlands and all options). This might be related to location as well. The only ones sold on the west coast are either first editions or lower trims with less features (ie. no moonroof). My preorder was only placed in early October, but is constantly being pushed back. Ford keeps dodging my refund request LoL. At least I know that I’ll never invest in a Ford in the future now. 😂
@tylergibson6418
@tylergibson6418 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jonatron503 That’s weird. My wife had no trouble getting a fully optioned badlands at all. Maybe it is location based.
@robloxcreator4376
@robloxcreator4376 8 ай бұрын
wait for reliability issues to pop up.
@carsandchronos
@carsandchronos 2 жыл бұрын
4Runner is the easy choice. I have owned both, still own the 4Runner. It’s not only as capable off road as the Wrangler, but it is more dependable and far more comfortable as an everyday vehicle. Oh, and you can haul plenty of cargo in the 4 Runner
@nict5828
@nict5828 2 жыл бұрын
True to dat
@Y100sport
@Y100sport 2 жыл бұрын
best reliability.
@Sintijacs
@Sintijacs Жыл бұрын
A true off-road channel, not many out there. Cheers from Latvia.
@KMBlaster
@KMBlaster 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a New FJ40 in 1983, Toyota put what I would consider street tires on there trucks and SUVs even back then. Same as my 2020 4Runner Venture. I wish Toyota would give you tire options. Would love to see a side by side comparison with the same tires on both vehicles
@rommelrivera1186
@rommelrivera1186 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! The Nitto Terra Grapplers suck. Agree with you totally at 7:09. Can't wait to replace mine with KO2's. I'll also take them one size up to 275. Thx!
@nacho-man1063
@nacho-man1063 2 жыл бұрын
4Runner & land cruiser are the world best suv. There is nothing out there that it will outlast these vehicles. Jeeps are fun to have and unique style makes them fun to drive. But sooooo unreliable.
@robsolf
@robsolf 2 жыл бұрын
Somehow you guys manage to get to every car wash just before I do. :) Thanks for the vid, guys!
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 3 жыл бұрын
The gladiator has off-road modes. In 4hi the off road plus button gives sand/Baja mode and in 4lo it gives rock crawling mode. It’s weird and you have to read the manual to really know that. But I can lock my rear diff in 2hi/front diff in 4hi and unlock the sway bar whenever thanks to a simple plug in called a tazer JL mini.
@davidcarrico3385
@davidcarrico3385 3 жыл бұрын
What did you feel regarding the extra weight in the 4xe? It’s low (under rear bench) and actually helps get close to 50/50 weight distribution. I’ve heard it actually improves the Rubicon ride in some cases(I have a 4xe, but am not familiar enough with the gas only Rubicon to compare). Extra weight is generally a negative but wondering about what you noticed while driving/off-roading?
@piskypositivo
@piskypositivo 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was really well done. Great video!!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@mervinmanalaysay152
@mervinmanalaysay152 Жыл бұрын
Just traded in my 2019 4runner trd pro for rubicon 4xe. My 4runner felt under powered specially going up hills. Lovin my new rubicon 4xe.
@mikewright2858
@mikewright2858 3 жыл бұрын
The KO2's are better IMO ... I have the Nittos on my 21 Pro but had KO2s on my 2016 ORP ... Ko2s FTW. All day, every day. The 4R with those tires is a tank.
@offroadkings379
@offroadkings379 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I have KO2s on my 21 pro and the truck is unstoppable. I've been through four feet of snow acting as a plow for other Runners in our convoy.
@johnstrand2247
@johnstrand2247 3 жыл бұрын
That was some goo. Great video!
@javierlugo259
@javierlugo259 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video Brother, please keep up the good work.....
@madcratebuilder
@madcratebuilder 3 жыл бұрын
Tires, tires, tires.
@Ww8.3
@Ww8.3 3 жыл бұрын
Gunned it in the jeep and drove like a Nancy with the Toyota. That’s the difference
@chrisa7832
@chrisa7832 3 жыл бұрын
That's why I won't subscribe there fan boys
@yourlame9795
@yourlame9795 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah kinda unfortunate, I like both but he’s definitely a Jeep fan boy, it was a biased video.
@entreptiles
@entreptiles 3 жыл бұрын
Something therapeutic about watching these ❤️
@willrector9716
@willrector9716 3 жыл бұрын
Hey great video! I know I gave you some crap about the last mud video..... but hey this was 100% better great job! A little constructive criticism goes a long way! Oh yeah... I'm not Roman lol. .. I should change my profile to that haha
@manlillab
@manlillab 3 жыл бұрын
great video, great cars. but all i saw was a decade old (proven) design with 100 less hp, 200 less torque, shitty tires, all offroad tools shut off, in 4 wheel drive only, and no electric help pretty much went down and back the same trail as Jeep's latest toy - with a little bit more effort. or did everyone see something different?
@trenton.tchannel1810
@trenton.tchannel1810 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure a regular rubicon could do the same. Toyota needs to remodel and update the 4 runner. It’s reliable but they won’t sell good because it’s drivetrain it’s ancient compared to what’s new. With more electric trucks coming soon Jeep will already have some experience with a hybrid set up on the trails. Toyota will lose money if they don’t keep up
@ewan_mclean
@ewan_mclean 3 жыл бұрын
@@trenton.tchannel1810 Toyota is a couple of years out from releasing the 6th gen. Chances are, they’ve been working on it for years. 4runners still sell because of their proven reliability, which in part comes from the fact that they’re ancient. With it still being a couple of years away we don’t know much about the drivetrain, but it might as well have a hybrid option.
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 2 жыл бұрын
@@trenton.tchannel1810 wtf are you talking about dummy, 4Runners sale great
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 2 жыл бұрын
You saw an extremely biased video of a dude that hates anything Toyota
@yourlame9795
@yourlame9795 2 жыл бұрын
@@trenton.tchannel1810 They sell good every year lol do you live on a different planet ?
@janhorak360
@janhorak360 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad that I have old truck and old school tech, without all the electrical stuff.
@larryborn1082
@larryborn1082 3 жыл бұрын
I would ask for tests with the SAME tires. Trying to compare in the mud with tires so different is almost useless. Also, like nearly every test involving a Jeep, if you have to live with the vehicle day to day the Jeep loses all the time. As soon as the Bronco becomes widely available the Jeep becomes even less relevant.
@3RiverArmsAndAutos
@3RiverArmsAndAutos Жыл бұрын
I would like to see that test also, but to it is also good to see the vehicles perform how they come from the factory.
@shughes911
@shughes911 3 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@roblowndes7829
@roblowndes7829 3 жыл бұрын
@Truck King, in the Jeep coming back down the hill & through the mud, you mentioned you might have gotten hung up on a log but I didn't see a log. Did you hear the thump or feel it or do you think the Select Speed in 4lo enabled the locked rear diff? If not, then that could be why the Jeep "paused" on you as only one rear tire was pushing. Also, if it was locked, then perhaps the higher speed or RPM of the locked rear diff coming down that hill cut out to protect itself thus pausing your progress. Either way, the Jeep made it look easier but that was most likely due to the difference in tires. Thanks for doing this awesome content!
@eddiekowalczyk8151
@eddiekowalczyk8151 2 жыл бұрын
My wife&I had new 2015 jeeps..nothing but transmission & electrical problems that the dealership could never solve the problems with less than 30k on them, so we traded them in for 4runner off road..35k later..not one issue with either 4runner..never going back!! Been in 2 ft snow storm's, 1.5 feet of water in backwoods..never missed a beat.
@matthewmeaux3450
@matthewmeaux3450 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't you guys get product specialists give you a demonstration before you shoot these videos or better yet, look through the owner's manual!
@robertd57i989
@robertd57i989 2 жыл бұрын
Man this video looks like so much fun. I need to find some places near me that have trails
@ChrisParayno
@ChrisParayno 2 жыл бұрын
As you said, on paper jeep seems to win the off road race already but we already know, its different story when implemented in the long run. Will the hybrid last longer then a year? A weekend? What'll it cost if there is a "minor" complication?
@brianflynn6421
@brianflynn6421 2 жыл бұрын
Love the show, ty
@jesseashmore8426
@jesseashmore8426 3 жыл бұрын
Its simple, really. If all you do is off-road and you want the most capable stock vehicle for such activities, go Jeep. If you're buying a daily driver that occasionally goes off road, go Toyota. I would hands down go Toyota but no way I'd be caught dead in that color. Save the money and buy TRD Off-Road, put your own 2" lift and tires, and get a good color.
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 2 жыл бұрын
Just don't buy a Jeep period if you want to come back from the trails
@yourlame9795
@yourlame9795 2 жыл бұрын
Keep smoking that good shit lol
@jesseashmore8426
@jesseashmore8426 2 жыл бұрын
@@yourlame9795 ???
@samleeroy5638
@samleeroy5638 3 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure hybrid with a gas engine generator is the future for overland/off road. I think they also need to make plugging solar to the roof easy and they are gold.
@coryernewein
@coryernewein 3 жыл бұрын
Good video guys!!!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@ScottyBennitone
@ScottyBennitone 3 жыл бұрын
I think where the jeep really shines is the 500-750 mile range before fill ups . Thats huge.
@davidcarrico3385
@davidcarrico3385 3 жыл бұрын
True, but that is only if you can charge multiple times during that tank. For full tank single charge, it’s more like 360 to 400 (Jeep rates it at 400). Just stating that for those that might mis-interpret your post and think they could get 500-750 on a tank during an overlanding trip. They will not. For normal driving it’s great though, and I did get 520 miles on my last tank!
@R.Nelson
@R.Nelson 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Victoria Day Truck King!!!😃 You guys taken day off?? I did...still had to mow my lawn thou..Warm in Ontario!!🌞This part anyway.. Enjoy the day
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
You too
@davidgintz652
@davidgintz652 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll take the Jeep any day. I have a 2 door jeep rubicon 4x4 with 37 tsp supper swampers. There’s no stopping it. It’s a 2019.
@northerntoyota7584
@northerntoyota7584 3 жыл бұрын
Another 5 years and there’ll be lots stopping it 😂
@davidgintz652
@davidgintz652 3 жыл бұрын
@@northerntoyota7584 LOL!!!! True😂😂😂😂
@gs98999
@gs98999 3 жыл бұрын
@@northerntoyota7584 Simple solution, get a new one, leave 5 year old plus vehicles to poor people? 😬🤷‍♂️
@joskjj3625
@joskjj3625 3 жыл бұрын
@@northerntoyota7584 I’m a huge Toyota fan but comments like yours is the reason why Toyota fans have a bad reputation, always acting superior with reliability, reliability and reliability
@dangoleshootnetwork6036
@dangoleshootnetwork6036 2 жыл бұрын
You don't use Lockers in 4 high. That's why they're lockers. You use them in four low. They're not designed to go through things quickly. They're designed for crawling and slow speeds.
@Idontwantahandle6669
@Idontwantahandle6669 Жыл бұрын
The Jeep can lock its diff in 4 hi lol
@tobyhowell1868
@tobyhowell1868 2 жыл бұрын
Picking up my 2020 TRD Pro tomorrow! 😁
@kennethm6931
@kennethm6931 3 жыл бұрын
What a Jeep fan boy.
@photobuzz
@photobuzz 2 жыл бұрын
At around 2:35, you say the 4Runner is in 4 hi, in MTS (sand) mud and the rear diff locked. I have a 2018 4runner TRD Off Road Premium and the owner's manual states that you can only lock the rear diff in low range. Is this correct?
@thomasnorton1998
@thomasnorton1998 2 жыл бұрын
Those NIttos are pretty much like highway slicks. K02s on both to truly compare the off-road capability
@Big88Country
@Big88Country 2 жыл бұрын
These tests are all about the tires! If the tires don't grab, you get stuck! Wheels spinning and holding the mud never works. Get some good mudders, and that 4runner will go wherever ya want it to! From this, I'm staying away from the Nittos! On the Rubi E, it's all good until a battery goes bad! Also, I'll stick with the old gas jeep with the open headers, love that music!! Enjoyed it though!
@johnkaper1129
@johnkaper1129 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, easy to see that you liked KO2s on the Jeep. Have you ever driven on the Falken Wildpeak AT3/W and if so how do you like them as compared to the KO2s? Tks
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 2 жыл бұрын
We have - they are similar
@kevinblock2307
@kevinblock2307 3 жыл бұрын
That looked like fun! Except for poor dad with the bugs 😀
@cj8489
@cj8489 5 ай бұрын
The main difference is that 4Runner will still be off roading in 20 years while that Jeep will last 3-5 years before the overly complicated powertrain is dead. I’ll take the quality and reliability of the 4Runner any day.
@johnnymendoza383
@johnnymendoza383 5 ай бұрын
Dude said that the jeep got caught up with a log😂 nothing was there
@nathanm6143
@nathanm6143 3 жыл бұрын
Both are great off-road vehicles, but they are geared towards different terrains and speeds. Jeeps are developed more for rock-crawling mountainous terrain, while the suspension on the Toyota allows for smoother high-speed off-roading for, say, the dessert. If you are into rock-crawling, nothing beats the Rubicon, though
@SK-ov1ll
@SK-ov1ll Жыл бұрын
People made up to $200k by flipping these damn cars lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHKvXn1parmjmK8
@eljoven732
@eljoven732 5 ай бұрын
I have to disagree when it comes to the toyota and desert running, because in my experience they do terrible in sand and jeep just in all categories does better. toyota is at least reliable but it lacks all the performance a jeep provides
@teddonley9594
@teddonley9594 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious as to why you don't use low range and lockers in these tests ?
@rossgreenzweig
@rossgreenzweig 3 жыл бұрын
These new vehicles are really nice, but ill just stick with my 04 Jeep TJ...a really solid platform 👍🏻
@picodoc8001
@picodoc8001 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I am with you. Unfortunately the rust got my frame and front end; not sure if it is worth saving. But the TJs are awesome.
@rossgreenzweig
@rossgreenzweig 3 жыл бұрын
@@picodoc8001 yeah I has a little bit of rusting and surface rust but I'm going to take it to get coated and re-done. I managed to pick up an 04 4.0 with 119,000
@rossgreenzweig
@rossgreenzweig 3 жыл бұрын
@@picodoc8001 im sure you could save it alot of people are doing it because the TJ is gaining value, what year TJ? Where are you from?
@picodoc8001
@picodoc8001 3 жыл бұрын
@@rossgreenzweig Yeah. That straight six is great engine, a simple and basic engine that one can easily work on.
@picodoc8001
@picodoc8001 3 жыл бұрын
@@rossgreenzweig I have thought about trying to save it and just break down and spend several thousands to replace, repair, and repaint her underbelly. It is an 05 Rubicon. I used to live in the DC metro area, they used salt as their primary snow removal method. It was my fault for not keeping it rinsed enough. You don't see a lot of TJs on the road. I may be incorrect, but I think the popularity of the Jeep really came about with the JKs. I see a lot of those and JLs on the road. Not sure how long you have had yours, but enjoy your Jeep. Other than a couple years, I have driven Jeeps since 1997 and have had a lot of fun in them.
@John-yf4ie
@John-yf4ie 8 ай бұрын
I had a choice between the 2021 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon fully loaded and the 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon fully loaded. I really liked the Wrangler but when I found out it had a E torque with the Rubber Band generator and the mile long coolant line with a 48 Volts battery , I decided on the Jeep Gladiator. I drove down to my Jeep dealership two weeks later to pickup my free gifts for buying my Gladiator and the Sales Manager said you should be glad you purchased the Gladiator as both 2021 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon are in the shop to replace the E torque in one and th other had a coolant leak in the long hose. Both items are on National Back Order. That could take a month or more!!! The Gladiator is the first pickup I've ever owned and for what it's worth I really enjoy having a bed in the back to fill with lumber, garden supplies and paver stones. Not sure if I heard or read that the Wrangler 3.6 litre is now sold with the regular 3.6 not the E torque! John
@frasiec
@frasiec 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing your giggles when driving the Jeep says it all
@joshmengle2950
@joshmengle2950 Жыл бұрын
You can lock the jeep in the rear in 4H. Traction control off until it beeps and push the button for rear locker
@shredfest30
@shredfest30 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh Spring time in Ontario is always a "Bugger" haha I have been so anti EV, but after a quick tear in my friends Tesla and watching this clip, it's really got my attention now..! Poor 4Runner is destined for something new.
@Estuardino71
@Estuardino71 2 жыл бұрын
5:35 That's exactly what's going on, "you don't know "
@BullionRookie
@BullionRookie 2 жыл бұрын
In our family we have both. My 4Runner and my dad’s Rubi. Love them both BUT…. Yeah the Rubi has gone back to the dealership twice for repairs and well what can we say. Toyota reliable as ever.
@steelersalwayschamps
@steelersalwayschamps 3 жыл бұрын
It is always humorous when Steve is taking a vehicle off-road and it starts to bog down and he gets more intense with his encouragement and disappointment if he gets obstructed/bogged down. Bottom of the hill bottom of the hill!!!!!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
He is fun to watch, eh?
@marcusduff2124
@marcusduff2124 3 жыл бұрын
The price they're asking for trucks and suvs right now is absolutely ridiculous. 50-70k for a Toyota or Jeep? Seriously?.....🤣
@leopoldgrun1104
@leopoldgrun1104 3 жыл бұрын
In Europe we have to pay for these around 100k 😂
@bendmacmanufacturing2744
@bendmacmanufacturing2744 3 жыл бұрын
I agree my Rubicon I had to lease to afford it was actually a birthday gift !!! $60,000 $7500 Tax credit if it will apply we will see next tax filing !!!
@weekendwarrior8179
@weekendwarrior8179 2 жыл бұрын
Should of used crawl control when you got stuck. That's what it's made for
@jeremyjohnson6438
@jeremyjohnson6438 3 жыл бұрын
Y’all do the best reviews!!! Nobody else is taking their trucks to mud holes!!!
@ch3z326
@ch3z326 3 жыл бұрын
SO HELP ME GOD IF YOU CALL A JEEP A TRUCK IM GOING TO WATCH YOU HAVE INFINITE PAIN
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