Which Rig Should I Get? Wrangler vs Bronco vs 4Runner

[@5G4R]

The Wrangler and Bronco definitely have more modern features which makes the 4Runner feel basic (I've driven all 3) but I actually don't mind that about my 4Runner. It has everything I need and nothing I don't. A small 2/1 lift with some good 33' tires for some extra clearance paired with A-TRAC is all I've ever needed to get through, what I consider some pretty rugged terrain. I live in Northern Saskatchewan which is a pretty desolate place especially during the winter, where you definitely do not want to break down, (-48c last week) so having a reliable vehicle is the difference between life and death. In the 7 years and 320,000km I've had my 2014 SR5 I've never so much as has a flat tire. Of course that mileage on this kind of terrain, stuff will wear out no matter what, like shocks ball joints, tie rods, etc. But I've always made it home. To me that makes up for any of its minor shortcomings. I'm sure whatever you choose you'll be happy with as they're all great vehicles, but if reliability means anything to you, the 4Runner, in my experience, will always get you home at the end of the day.

[@SCORCH4x4]

The 2010 Nissan Xterra that used to lead the group with was as basic as they come but we drove the hell out of the vehicle and loved every minute of it.

[@dexterrr9163]

I dont know Ive seen a guy did 3 year journey through africa with his 2011 jk wrangler even crashing it once but had no problem through the journey.(youtube channel road chose me) So it really depends on how you drive too. Main thing is his car wasnt heavily modded tho.

[@israelmty100]

Can’t go wrong with 4Runner we it comes to off-road

[@05EVORS]

'17 SR5 w magnussen supercharger on 34's w 3" bilstein 6112 (HD option 650springs) /2.5" rr lift, no front sway rides awesome w sway deleted and handles FINE on highway. Wife drives it 80% no swaybar makes 4R RIDE so much nicer on pavement where it lives 97% of time. Regear to 4:56 is next w ARB locker out back since Im on heavier/taller 34's. The 4.0L / 5AT is not gonna break on you or throw a CEL. All bugs worked out. With 6psi boost its 350hp runs in the 13's quarter mile, gets 12.9mpg everywhere lol. We rented a 4 cycl turbo hurricane Wrangler out of town loved how it drove (except the SA steering) that lil 300hp 4 pot w garret snail impressed me. Made my heavy supercharged 4R feel like a slug lol. Bronco has IFS almost perfected...able to run 37s and no cutting needed. 4R needs RCV cryo D60 outers to be semi reliable on 35+ rubber. 4R front diff is weak w locker added....4R Fr Diffs/wheel bearings/lower ball joints and rack n pinions all go to hell once you goto 35's and actually wheel it. Bronco has none of those Issues. That being said the Bronco is the king of IFS and big rubber and Yoda is leader of the sub 35" tire gang where most mall crawlers live. SAS tons into a 4R and all downsides are removed except SA steering but anyone on 40s knows IFS handling/steering isnt a priority anymore. Or run the Marlin Crawler IFS system on 4R w beefed landcruiser 200 rack....but your still stuck w shit wheel bearings on anything over 34's and that weak front diff that explodes if driven wrong locked.

[@kcspeed9980]

The best experience I can give was when my family drove down to the outer banks from north nj in our then breaks new trd off-road 4Runner. With 4 grown adults and all out stuff for 2 weeks roof rack loaded up it was the most pleasant roadtrip I’ve experienced. The ride is just fantastic. Then we met up with friends who live there to go driving on the beach. On oem highway tires aired down to 20 we had zero issues in the sand. Eventually we tried to get it stuck and could not. Our friends had a new wrangler and could not believe how comfortable and capable the 4Runner is. They have now got there own. It was a lease that has definitely become a forever car!

[@DUNEATV]

Buy the Rubicon. If you don’t you’ll always think about it and want it. The Jeep Rubicon is the best Off-Road and the new JL is amazing on road. You need the strength of the SFA and front locking differential. 20-21 MPG. 3.6L 8-speed.

[@SCORCH4x4]

The IFS vs SFA debate loomed large in our decision-making for sure, especially since this also will be a daily driver for JZ.

[@DUNEATV]

@@SCORCH4x4 When’s the reveal?

[@SCORCH4x4]

@@DUNEATV About 1-2 weeks after it arrives so we can drive it and video it for you. It should be here any day now. Thanks for asking.

[@SCORCH4x4]

@@DUNEATV Also, we put out another video while we were waiting... kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3SylatmmMuDr6c

[@DUNEATV]

@@SCORCH4x4 👍🏻

[@Wrangzilla]

If you want to be there, the Wrangler. If you want it to last, the 4Runner. If you just want to be trendy, get the bronco

[@Mike-uj9bf]

We have a Wrangler JK and a 4Runner as well as a Tacoma...4Runner all day long

[@marktwain5722]

I’m sticking with the 4Runner. It’ll outlast anything.

[@x04svtx]

If u cant afford bronco, just say tht 😂

[@88rushrocks]

You really don’t know what you’re talking about . If you want a grocery getter maybe a cheap 20,000 Toyyuk for a woman/child

[@andrekellogg8859]

I just bought a 4runner TRD because I got turned off by all the Bronco problems and recalls. I saw a new one pull up to a light and the engine made a big noise and died on the spot. I have owned Wrangler's and they always have problems. So I chose reliability and comfort over the others.

[@firebir11]

To me a “lead vehicle “ should be one that has a track record of reliability and ruggedness simply because everyone will be dependent on that vehicle and the experience of the driver. The 4Runner has that record…from the documented retracing of the “McKenzie Trail” across Canada to the documented Expedition through Central America and all the way to the southern tip of South America in Argentina.

[@SCORCH4x4]

Our last lead vehicle was very similar to the 4Runner....a 2010 Nissan XTerra, so we agree that the 4Runner is capable. However, a lead vehicle also needs to be decent at recovery, which the Xterra most certainly was not.

[@kingcraven8056]

I'd take the 4Runner also. I don't need a Fiat or some twin turbo Eco Boost crap. As for all the added fluff its just more crap to break. As for going truly off road you need to ditch the power windows and add 1 ton axles ect ect ie make it yourself. There is a reason Toyota kept that same basic platform for all these years and it wasn't for speed.

[@bobquattrini1787]

Old,outdated and weak Toyota sucks

[@michaelm1105]

My 2019 trd or Tacoma was awful. Tin roof weather stripping pounding the top poor radio and refusal to warranty. Jeep and Bronco are only choices. If you want tach and hand brake get the Jeep if you don’t worry about those two things Bronco by a long shot!

[@michaeldbhawker3556]

@@SCORCH4x4 don’t you dare ever compare an ex terra to a 4 runner. God will lightning bolt your ass.

[@chewminem2044]

Driving a jeep in Hawai’i was hella fun. First time driving a 4x4 I got to many places and on freeways no problem. I did get the soft top and we got robbed while parked on a flea market lol. But now I have a 4runner and I’m happy modding the hell out of it. I want both JL Wrangler and 4runner of course

[@damnjustassignmeone]

Depends whether you want it before mid-2023. If yes, I’d go with a Wrangler or 4Runner

[@BirdDogOffRoadAdventures]

Got mine in 4 months after order. Badlands w/sasquatch, Lux and tow packages.

[@damnjustassignmeone]

@@BirdDogOffRoadAdventures Wow, that’s got to be a record. I keep hearing that a lot of people have been waiting like 18 months and still don’t even have a build date. Were you one of the first to order?

[@damnjustassignmeone]

@@BirdDogOffRoadAdventures I just ordered a 2 door Wrangler actually. I’d have thought more seriously about a Bronco if I thought I could get one by this summer. No doubt the Bronco is a great vehicle.

[@BirdDogOffRoadAdventures]

@@damnjustassignmeone No, I ordered 8/7/21 with a reservation of 7/20/21. I think Dealer allocation is your best bet. My dealer hinted that they bumped me into a spot of another person that backed out, but they wouldn't say that.

[@damnjustassignmeone]

@@BirdDogOffRoadAdventures Oh, that’s interesting. I bet you’re right. Anyhow, thanks. Food for thought.

[@stephtraveler7378]

1) Only consider those with removable doors...unless you ONLY offroad. But for beach/lake days... Doors off. 2) Then consider which is the best stock offroad platform.... Easy Bronco. 3) which one can you actually get??? Jeep.

[@kjm8135]

Best stock platform is wrangler by a mile

[@SCORCH4x4]

I’m probably not going to have much chance to take the doors off. Plus it’s super dusty out here a lot of the time.

[@fdcinccavalari5237]

would love to see the 4runner have the option to remove top or doors also.

[@SCORCH4x4]

Yes. Definitely. Maybe in the next gen?

[@88rushrocks]

I traded in my 2021 4Runner for my now 2024 Willy’s 4xe for many different reasons however I did try the bronco and thought it was amazing also but didn’t get it because I didn’t like the color and I wasn’t waiting 5weeks for my color option of delivery and I’m 100% happy with my Willy’s it’s better than I thought and off road good luck following it truly amazing

[@17736tja]

Idk if it’s just me, but the jeep owners who love them usually have under 100k miles. After that, they have two vehicles XD no questioning the capabilities and styling of the wrangler. But the reliability is sub par at best. That why I want a 4Runner. I want an everyday that also amazing off-road and known for 300k miles without a new transmission or engine

[@boundless-trails]

Same predicament. I had a chance to drive all and ended up choosing Jeep Rubicon. 4Runner looked good but I hated the interior, it felt more like an SUV and lacked some basic features, like a side handle by drivers side, as well as lack of ability to easily add modifications. Bronco I couldn’t figure out, liked the roomy interior and rear tailgate that resembled the Jeep, but again something felt off about some things, like an awkwardly placed handle by the shifter. Jeep, on the other hand is like a Lego set, you a take things off or add things in a breeze.

[@stevenm6301]

Very reassuring to see all the 4R love in the comments! Just got mine and love it.

[@dbphillips1978]

Me too

[@markhumphrey855]

Me three😂

[@ericsumner7733]

I think they all look cool and are capable off road. The question would be is what do you like? It's really hard to listen to what other people like unless you drive them yourself but it is good to do the research just like your doing in real time by inviting other owners of different brand types. It's all going to depend on how it fits you! Are you going Overlanding and exploring 70 or 80% of the time or is it going to be a garage queen or daily driver. I would have to say that I like reliability that's my number one pet peeve so the 4runner is my number one choice and it looks cool and comfortable and is great on the highway. Just research the Edmunds Reviews and see what you can live with. I don't like being stranded on the road or trail from a breakdown and from my research the 4runner is number 1# in reliability. So the 4runner wins in my book! Again it's all going to be on what you like and can live with.😊

[@jk-qf3lt]

The Jeep get you there....But the Toyota will get you home...4Runner bullet proof reliability.

[@SlightReturn666]

100 percent. It’s really not even a serious comparison. The bronco and jeep may be sexier than a 4Runner but they aren’t even in the same ballpark as far as reliability.

[@88rushrocks]

Wanna bet I’ve got tow records and once was stuck for 2 days until a forestry person found us

[@Crumb_Trails]

I miss SoCal trails. I haven't found anything quite like it anywhere else in the country. I've got a '24 Bronco Badlands Sasquatch on order and I'm planning a trip back to the high desert just for old times sake.

[@powerboatguy2308]

If you want the unique experience of a very unique maneuverable vehicle that you can pull the top off, fit in tight spaces get the Wrangler, otherwise get the 4-Runner. The Bronco is having a lot of service issues, maybe when they get those eco boost engines figured out, it might be a better deal.

[@tuoitreomaha9096]

I currently own a 2020 4runner premium. Simple and solid! But if I have about 55-60k. I would get a wrangler rubicon with a V6 engine (it’s also been proven by many year and by many vehicle from FCA). If I have about 60-80k. I would get land rover defender because its 4x4 is the best of the best. No bronco for me!

[@jneptune1540]

That v6 engine is not as solid. The engine is good like most cars theses days, but every other components connected to that engine will break on you. That 4 runner will last you 150k with only oil changes

[@SCORCH4x4]

The Defender is a tough call. Those stock wheels are not up to the task.

[@brianflynn6421]

Yes Jeep been around a long time, love my jeep

[@SlightReturn666]

Any of these would be a major downgrade from your 4Runner in terms of basic reliability. The best 4x4 is not a Land Rover; it’s a Land _Cruiser_. Expensive as all getout but built like an A-10 Warthog.

[@jneptune1540]

@@SlightReturn666 not really. Land cruiser is nice, but way too big to the best. It does last for long time, but the maintenance is not cheap. You also are not going to rock crawling in it either.

[@richardmahoney9415]

I just was sent your video in my auto play I see u have only 498 subscribers I wish u continued success this was a cool video and cool to have so many passionate owners involved

[@BirdDogOffRoadAdventures]

Just traded my my 2018 4Runner TRD off-road for a new Bronco Badlands w/Sasquatch. No regrets so far. Things I won’t miss about the 4Runner was the outdated tech, transmission, lack of power, and limitations in tire size placement without butchering your truck up. Things I’ll miss, a-trac, Toyota reliability, and a little bit more interior space. Have never owned a Jeep, but they feel cramped when I sit in them. If I was gonna get a 4Runner, I’d wait to see what the 6th gen has.

[@SCORCH4x4]

We have the same concern. None of the 3 options are a slam dunk, but the dated tech and looming refresh certainly go into the 4Runner's "cons" column.

[@JohnHMoore]

@@SCORCH4x4 Yeah, unless they screw up the refresh... in which case we'll all be scrambling for used 5th gens! :-)

[@SCORCH4x4]

@@JohnHMoore Have you seen the cost of used 5G 4Runners these days? Crazy!

[@JohnHMoore]

@@SCORCH4x4 Yeah, Kelly Blue Book claims that my 2018 4Runner TRD ORP is currently worth basically what I paid for it! I've been half seriously thinking about selling it just to buy a new one for a couple grand more at most.

[@SCORCH4x4]

@@JohnHMoore That would work...if you can find a good new on one the lot without a markup. That's getting harder and harder.

[@snoboyz3]

Owned 2 Wranglers (JK and JL), 2021 4Runner, and currently have a 2022 Tacoma 4x4 which I love. JL Wrangler highway ride/steering was poor even after extensive steering upgrades, high end shocks, etc. Great offroad. 4Runner bullet proof but dated and dealers have them overpriced right now.. One Florida dealer in Tampa has 100 Broncos on their lot. Broncos are continuing to drop in price due to poor sales. Bronco IMO offers best combination of power, offroad capability, and daily driver. See what the new 4Runner will bring to the table when it comes out later this year. Toyota #1 on long term value and reliability.

[@mikevandolah7811]

had a '18 Jeep Rubicon-Recon Edition. Road noise and cross winds while driving on the highway present a real issue. Steering is like herding cattle down an interstate. Off roading is where this unit shines. The 4 runner is superior in every category on the highway comfort, steering and no road noise whatsoever. Off roading on steep descents like the FJ can present a problem. The addition of a forward camera has greatly improved this problem. Towing an Air Steam behind while off roading will present a problem with the power.

[@Christopherthill]

I had the same decision I needed to make not long ago, but was not looking for a lead vehicle of sorts and I was not interested in the Wrangler, and had the Gladiator on my list. I am also not brand biased and I appreciate everything. I was excited to see what the Bronco could do, and I still enjoy them and can’t wait to see what happens with the platform, but the first year always scares me. Especially with a Ford product. The Gladiator really had my attention, and the newer platform has gotten much better reliability wise. However, in the end I had placed my order for a new 22 TRD ORP, in the Lunar Rock color. The 4Runner, especially jumping from one to another at the most recent auto show, provided much more room and comfort, and it just felt put together better. They updated the tech for the newer years which brings the interior more in line with the competition. Also, the legendary reliability and bulletproof motor and trans was also a big thing for me when I plan to be off the beaten path. No matter what you pick, you have excellent options! I wish I could own all three 😂

[@SCORCH4x4]

It’s weird that the 4Runner is more dated than the Jeep, but Toyota really needs to hurry up and move into the 6th generation.

[@ericsumner7733]

Don't forget to factor the price point how much $$$$ of the MSRP of all the 4x4s you are looking at. That's important too when deciding on which way to go...If money is no problem then you don't have to worry. Have fun shopping and good hunting on your next dream off roader.

[@jaksdh-u4t]

Very interesting video but the loud music make it hard to understand people talking. Cheers keep up the good work

[@SCORCH4x4]

Thanks for the tip. A lot of the time the music is hiding the wind noise.

[@achilles5197]

Bronco on order, did bronco nation event today and honestly I like my 21 trd 4runner alot more. It feels much more finished.

[@SCORCH4x4]

Are you keeping the 4Runner when the Bronco stomps in?

[@achilles5197]

I sold the bronco last week, kept the 4runner.

[@ZacTexC]

Depends how long you want to keep a vehicle

[@SCORCH4x4]

The last one lasted about 5 years on the trails but already had about 80k of daily driving miles before it took on a role as the SCORCH lead rig.

[@TheVikingSailor]

The big thing is off road capability. If you want a nice ride on road then 4 runner. If you want to climb rocks the the only option is Jeeps with a solid front axle.

[@havinfun44884488]

Agreed. I gotta 2021 4Runner Off Road and it will take you most places. If you want to to some tougher trails, you need a lift and new wheels and tires and most likely a body mount chop. Wrangler is ready for it. I went with the 4Runner because I take my family and extra gear and needed room and wanted the most reliable car I could afford.

[@mikemiller4011]

I thought you were going to pick your favorite, so I was let down about that but I enjoyed your video.

[@SCORCH4x4]

We are a little let down too at how hard it has been to decide. In the end, market factors may decide...

[@kimpeter7934]

Good video, please do a follow up video on what you decide on. Ty

[@SCORCH4x4]

Our new rig is on the way and we will make a vid for sure when we get it.

[@mikemor8]

Hi Jonathan, it’s been a while… Great video !!! Good luck with the new KZbin channel and with whichever new rig you decide to go with.

[@SCORCH4x4]

Thanks Mike. We hope to see you on a ride in 2022. We’ll announce our ride lineup when the new rig comes in.

[@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD]

if by rugged you mean reliable, the Toyota/Lexus. Looks and names mean nothing unless it works... Try the 4runner or the Lexus GX460

[@SCORCH4x4]

The Xterra was pretty darn reliable and reminds me a lot of the 4Runner . Thanks

[@matrix-fh9tn]

Very simple. Buy whichever you like if you are a short term owner and afford to replace vehicle whenever you want. Buy 4runner if you are like me who won't be rockcrawling and careless about new designs and keeps it for more than 10 years as long as it's not totaled.

[@JohnHMoore]

Nice idea for a comparison video! It breaks down a little because the Bronco guy doesn't have much experience in his vehicle to really tell you long-term what works & what doesn't, but still a nice set up for the video.

[@SCORCH4x4]

Thanks. We're bringing the rigs out onto some harder trails for our next video - more of a performance test...

[@anthonydotb]

I was going to volunteer to be the drone pilot, but I'm still a novice and assumed you'd get tons of people volunteering. The next time you need a drone pilot (and another 4Runner) I'm your guy.

[@SCORCH4x4]

Saw your note and we responded on Instagram. Reach out to us directly. We'd love to have you along.

[@g.fortin3228]

Nice video and good people !

[@SCORCH4x4]

It was a great group. They made the day a blast.

[@mikeyc7072]

4runner off-Road Premium with KDSS. Add the KDSS Switch for Baja Bombing. Too sluggish - add Banks throttle controller or a Supercharger. Compared to the price of a new Badlands or Rubicon, 4runner off-Road Premium with KDSS is significantly less, with more money left for upgrades. 4runner for the big win in on-road comfort - no contest!! Jeep and Bronco are marginally better off-road, especially when tackling extreme obstacles - 4runner can still go 80% - 90% of places they can.

[@EvolvedTactical]

I'm in Chino and just picked up my Bronco Badlands 3 weeks ago. Reach out if you want another Bronco to look at.

[@davidf9027]

Nicely done.

[@SCORCH4x4]

Thanks. I wish my voice reading from a script was as natural as when I’m interviewing drivers. No more voiceovers for me.

[@dodedarman7530]

Love it. Here is another California 4Runner would like to join you guys. Let me know how to signup for your group for the next off road adventure.

[@SCORCH4x4]

That's great. Join us on Meetup. We are announcing a ride soon for February. We gotta go scout it next weekend first... www.meetup.com/SCORCH4x4/

[@chaleowin7732]

I would be happy with any of these vehicles, but I would choose the Bronco in the end. I screwed up, I had a reservation for a First Edition and I let it go back...If I knew what they go for now...I kick myself every single day.

[@SCORCH4x4]

Ouch. You might have even had it by now, but probably not. Don’t kick yourself.

[@AA-mk4pu]

Broncos are garbage, be very glad you didn’t get one

[@seaotter72]

My 2019 4runner is the best of all worlds!

[@BreckoniousMaximus]

I've been thinking about selling my F150 and moving to one of these vehicles in the video, but it is a tough choice! I like the Bronco, but the price is just ridiculous and it's too new. The Jeep is great, but reliability and on road driving manners could be an issue (Not so much on road manners, I think they drive fine). The 4Runner would be my top choice, but it lacks power big time, I'd have to buy a Supercharger if I went the 4Runner route, which would add to the cost. So as of now, the Jeep is on the top of my list, especially with all the engine options. It's too bad other auto manufacturers won't make similar off road type vehicles. Anyway, thanks for the video, I really enjoyed watching it.

[@skoolynugenator1802]

I would go 4Runner. It isn’t a race car for sure but it will out last everything, you never hafta worry about breaking down in the middle of nowhere and holds its value better than anything. Even with a turbocharger it’s not much difference in price with the top trim Wranglers and Broncos. Or you could get a Pedal Commander for 300 bucks. I’m telling you that I’ve had my new ‘22 ORP for a few months and it’s the most solid feeling vehicle I’ve ever driven.

[@dexterrr9163]

Land cruiser and gx is more powerful than the 4runner. But kinda expensive and not mainstream

[@mlwilliam213]

Pure off-road prowess,Jeep. Comfort and reliability,Yota.Right in the middle but the top comes off, Bronco.

[@WesAlexander]

I’m considering the same. I’m 6’3” so the 4 runner is calling my name! Lol. But man I LOVVVVVVE jeeps. That is until I can’t stretch my leg out on a longer ride. The bronco had great legroom but turbocharged and off grid don’t go well together. I want to do cross country rides and long distance exploration so reliability is important to me. Wrangler and 4 Runner are the only two that are tried and true. I’m thinking Jeep and the seat bracket that moves me back 4 inches! Or maybe the tried and true baby land cruiser! They both are so cool! If they could just make a convertible 4 runner I’d be great! Lol. I’m leaning towards the 4 runner just for the go anywhere do anything aspect. At least I think…. 🤪

[@aky19832001]

Toyota is the clear winner because of over all use , ride quality on and off road and Japanese built quailty and reliability. However with ample ground clearance, proper tires, locking diff and 4x4. Make model reallt wont matter. Realibikity and ride quality is left to oersonal discrerion.

[@matthernandez210]

I work at a Offroad shop. I’ve worked on a lot of all 3 of these vehicles.. the Jeeps will go anywhere with minor upgrades on a rubicon. But they are loud and parts wear out fast. The broncos haven’t been out long enough they do have good option but the are loud as well the roofs leaks air especially the soft top sounds like your in a 30 year old vehicle. Now for the 4runner. They do feel like an older vehicle because lack of options. But Toyota was smart they put what is necessary. Not extra crap that will break. They are quite smooth and do what mover people will need them to do..

[@JesusGarcia98.F]

No manual transmission tho… only reason why I’d pick the other 2 over it

[@matthernandez210]

@@JesusGarcia98.F have you driven a new Jeep in manual though?? One of the worst manuals I have driven.

[@JesusGarcia98.F]

@@matthernandez210 I have not but I can’t imagine it being less fun than an automatic

[@prflyr]

I've owned a 2011 Jeep JK, 2016 4Runner and now 2021 Jeep JL. Both manufacturers are great in their own ways. I'd love to drive a Bronco. Buy the vehicle that best suits you. All good choices I'm certain.

[@tgkg]

I would just get 80series Landcruiser(diesel) and call it done. cost way less than the 3 vehicles mentioned in this clip.

[@SCORCH4x4]

We just went through keeping an out of production vehicle up to snuff to be a dependable lead rig...and then it died on the 60 Freeway on the way to a ride. So now here we are. Plus the used vehicle market is pretty bonkers now too.

[@gondorian1006]

But you can buy a base Wrangler or Bronco for the price of a good condition Land Cruiser that is 20 years old.

[@tgkg]

@@gondorian1006 but the landcruiser I mentioned is the Diesel version and are usually not as rusty as the ones here in the states and low mileage for its age. and depending on what model, it may come triple lock. Only down fall is driving on the right hand side but anyone can get used to it.

[@kennethcurtis1856]

Too bad this video isn't about Landcruisers, isn't it. Seems you are commenting on the wrong video.

[@joseoyola8]

where to find more info on the SCORCH meets?

[@robertf3340]

Looks like a blast. Joined your club awhile back but not sure how you get notifications for upcoming events and runs; I assume the “Meetup” app?

[@SCORCH4x4]

Yes. The meetup app is the best way or visit our site at SCORCH4x4.com. Rides are on hold another month or two until we get a new rig squared away.

[@SCORCH4x4]

Here is the link if you need it... www.meetup.com/SCORCH4x4/

[@robertf3340]

@@SCORCH4x4 Got it brother. Do you guys happen to send out any email regarding upcoming runs?

[@SCORCH4x4]

@@robertf3340 Not at the moment but we are redoing our website this month and plan on adding a spot to enter emails for future heads up.

[@allenstuck2861]

Bronco all the way!

[@SCORCH4x4]

You are definitely not the first person to expressed that sentiment. Lots of bronco fans out there. Not so many bronco owners yet.

[@hagamarianas6188]

Only thing i don’t like about our 4runner is its cruise control adapting to cars in front of me. Let me do that myself. Feels like it’s not good for the engine

[@gregjoubert5118]

If you push and hold the cruise on button for a few seconds it will act like old school cruise if you prefer that.

[@hagamarianas6188]

@@gregjoubert5118 i’m definitely gonna try that. Thank you🤙🏽

[@fernandomartin624]

The jeep. And bronco are on a league of their own, the 4 runner is a SUV that can off road. When you can take door and roof off it's a whole different animal. Regardless of the capabilities, the 4runner isn't a roof/dorrs off vehicle.

[@mpeugeot]

Nice comparison, the stock Bronco vs all these heavily modified Jeeps and Toyotas.

[@SCORCH4x4]

The stock Bronco held its own pretty well. Paul was a hard driver and the Bronco never complained. We didn't hit anything too hard but that is going to change in our next video...

[@alexunlv]

We are here to hear the simple conclusion: Which do you prefer? We get it with the explanation - but we are here to know WHICH ONE YOU CHOOSE. Which one do you prefer. Just say it. All in good spirits of course, but we just want to hear your opinion.

[@johndc7446]

The bronco is nice but it is more like a tank, its way too big like a fj cruiser. Just my opinion though. I would prefer a 4runner or a wrangler.

[@SCORCH4x4]

The Jeep handles a bit like a tank too. For nimbleness, the the Toyota is the way to go.

[@4bvenom733]

Out dated but still rolling like a king Off-Roading. How do I get to these trail

[@JesusGarcia98.F]

Obviously the reliability I would go with 4Runner but the Jeep and Bronco both offer something the 4Runner doesn’t… a manual transmission. I myself get bored driving automatic… I wish it came with a manual tranny

[@Jason_903]

All of those are great for off road depends what you are looking for and plan on doing

[@notthatlopez7280]

Jonathan, how bout a VK swap on that xterra?

[@SCORCH4x4]

We were thinking about getting a Titan swap for the suspension, but once the engine blew we decided to stick a fork in it. The new owner up in NorCal swapped in a new engine and transmission. We are definitely heading up there with the new rig for a reunion someday.

[@leoh.377]

Anybody know what lights the gray 4runner has mounted on his Gobi?

[@DB-xd7sr]

Jeeps have been conquering trails for decades. True, tried, and Tested. Love the Bronco, 4Runner is capable, Jeep is the king. Just my opinion.

[@SCORCH4x4]

It’s a good opinion.

[@CristianoIsidoro]

I've done all that driving in a stock 2008 Sequoia RWD. People overthink everything and spend way too much for nothing.

[@SCORCH4x4]

That was my philosophy for the Xterra for years. I’d still be driving it if she grant blown apart.

[@OldskoolHiFi]

I've owned Toyota's for a long time now and 3 wranglers before that. Currently drive a 2nd gen Tacoma. I was initially excited for the Bronco because of everything they were promising, but with my past experience in my work truck with the ecoboost engine, I want nothing to do with it.

[@countschad]

The Wrangler and the Bronco may actually offroad better, but, if you keep vehicles for more than 5 years or 200,000miles, then the 4runner is the best choice.

[@eljoven732]

I do not understand why people don't consider ford a reliable brand. My parents f150 have over 500k miles and still drive amazingly on and off road

[@countschad]

@@eljoven732 V8?

[@eljoven732]

@countschad yeah and I also had a 02 green v6 explorer as my first car, and that thing had 300k miles Unfortunately, I traded it for a Chrysler 300 biggest mistake I made financially

[@countschad]

@@eljoven732 Ford used to make really good vehicles. They screwed up with the ecoboosts... I had an '85 Mustang GT. That 5.0 was indestructible.

[@eljoven732]

@countschad but you can still buy them without it right?

[@billykimble1495]

I have been trying to determine which to keep, my 2019 4R TRD Offroad or my new Big Bend V6 4 door for daily commuting and light to medium off roading. The Bronco is definitely more powerful and has more tech which is also more prone to expensive failure. The TRD is nicer, probably more reliable and just seems a little more robust and of course has a hard top which provides more security, the full perimeter frame door windows provide for more rigidity, quietness and better sealing than my soft top Bronco which doesn’t truly seal above the doors. The soft top just basically overlaps the roof frame weatherstripping. I’d be afraid to take it through a car wash unless I need a wash also. I can slide my fingers all the way in between the weatherstripping and the soft top and the window sides don’t seal well either. I’ll probably order a hard top whenever they become available. I doubt I’ll remove the Bronco doors very often. The Bronco is bigger and has a bit more cargo area. Another positive to the Bronco is that it has actual removable bumpers. I recently backed into a pole on the 4R which smashed the plastic so called rear bumper. The entire wrap around bumper/rear quarter panel piece has to be replaced and repainted. To install real aftermarket metal bumpers on the 4R takes a moderate amount of cutting of the plastic. Not sure which vehicle to get rid of. If I want to do some serious off-roading and not worry about tearing up my expensive new vehicles, I’ll pull out my ‘84 Chevy K5 Blazer and trailer it with my 5.7L Hemi Ram.

[@Balthasar_Gelt463]

Could keep both! I think the Ford seems more practical for you given it’s more comfortable.

[@SCORCH4x4]

In the video we just released, one of our scouts shared that he sold his fifth gen 4Runner with 35,000 miles on it two years after he bought it new and made $10,000 profit on it. Something to think about.

[@icecream_2987]

Wish the Bronco was more affordable. I ended up with a 4Runner and love it.

[@Anomize23]

I don’t wish it because it doesn’t feel like it should be priced at what it is and that’s how I ended up in my runner.

[@JohnMcMahan5]

Great! The more off-road options in the US the better.

[@ronaldschwartz1856]

Whatever your choice is, remember, the best one out there is the one you own.

[@Jay-Ar1447]

4Runner all day reliability at its finest!

[@krasnaludek298]

I’d probably go Bronco 1st & Wrangler 2nd. I don’t like Japanese trucks/SUVs, so it’s a pass on that one. Had a 4Runner & the transmission was a gutless POS, plus seating was horrible, so I did give it a try. The Japanese do make good little cars & Europeans excellent sports cars; trucks & SUVs … I’m going American [yeah, I know Stellantis is multinational].

[@armandoflores5453]

"my 4th jeep" i wonder why haha

[@timberlinecline3667]

The bronco is your best bet

[@SCORCH4x4]

It was a pretty sweet ride and surprisingly quiet. Paul drove that thing like he'd been driving it forever. It's an easy rig to ease into.

[@gondorian1006]

1. Wait for the new 4runner 2. Bronco 3. Jeep, but 4xe or diesel 4. Rivian, because who doesn't want 820+ hp?

[@SCORCH4x4]

So much to tackle here, and many will be addressed in a video when we get and unveil our new rig. However, the Rivian was under consideration. The reality that many of our ride are overnighters which cover a lot of ground across backcountry where there are zero chargers...well...that was that. The 4Xe interested us but it only delivers 30 miles a charge, less off road, so a few hours into any ride it would be a less capable vehicle that if we had put the same money into a beefed up Jeep like the Rubicon Recon Xtreme. It's a tough decision all around.

[@gondorian1006]

@@SCORCH4x4 how is the 4xe Rubicon less capable than a pentastar v6 Rubicon? It still makes 375 hp and 470 tq after the charge runs out. You can't get that in any other stock jeep unless you spend beaucoup dollars on the Hemi.

[@SCORCH4x4]

@@gondorian1006 It's not that. It's that the 4Xe starts at about $8k more than a Rubicon. So for the same price we could get a Rubicon with the Xtreme Recon package. 30 miles into a ride, we either have a basic 4Xe with a dead battery or a fairly loaded V6. Plus the 4Xe's are kind of hard to get your hands on at the moment.

[@gondorian1006]

@@SCORCH4x4 yeah a 4xe Rubicon is $12k more, but there is a $7,500 federal tax credit, plus depending on your zip code up to a $9,500 credit from California, plus you can get carpool lane stickers. Plus you get way more torque at way lower RPMs plus the extra 100 hp (even when the electric range is gone you still have the extra hp boost)

[@terrynichol577]

What the hell and who the hell was that kind of horsepower?

[@jonc2914]

I love toyota as a brand, but I still dont see ANY car do the extreme things a jeep wrangler does. Thats just a fact.... now will a wrangler make 300-500,000 miles? But thats not rhe debate here. The topic of discussion is offroading. And wrangler is simply king for that.

[@marksim3488]

Came down to ford and toyota for us due to cargo space (family of 5). Got the 4Runner, but that ford drives nice off-road. The manual is really easy to drive…crawl gear is pretty impressive.

[@SCORCH4x4]

The 4Runner eats cargo for sure. The Jeep does come in last in that category. Blane sleeps back there when we are on multi-day rides but anyone taller than him better be into sleeping diagonally or in a fetal position all night.

[@daklakfoto]

good luck with new rig choice. may I ask what happens to the Xtera?

[@SCORCH4x4]

She threw a rod and completely seized on the way to a SCORCH event in September. I had to lead the ride from a member’s Subaru. She’s been sold to a mechanic in NoCal who swapped in a new engine and transmission. I hope to ride up there when I get a new rig and shoot some vid of them playing together.

[@daklakfoto]

@@SCORCH4x4 Can't wait to see your new choices.. and new trip. See you soon

[@TANCoffgrid]

Excellent video JZ! I love my Fords, always reliable, I hated my Jeep, just personal experience. Toyotas always feel a little strange on the road to me, but very reliable.

[@SCORCH4x4]

Thanks. Jeeps are certainly not for everyone, but whichever rig we pick is going to get put to full off road use.

[@RougaRouKJun]

Get which ever one you want to install a solid front axel into. Otherwise enjoy your tires being off the ground.

[@DUNEATV]

Exactly

[@surfingtothestars]

Lexus GX460 is the best of both worlds if you want a daily driver and off road capability

[@kennethcurtis1856]

I missed something. Was this video about Lexus?

[@akbuckets272]

We all know the 4runner is the best here.

[@bonvaicu]

Get the Bronco

[@Papershields001]

Get the Bronco. Badass off-road and well mannered as a daily driver. Plus the 2 doors just look good.

[@jamestaylor9258]

Test drive them and get what you like without needing validation or justification. It is your car. :)

[@akdroner8728]

1. Jeep 2. Toyota 3. Ford

[@SCORCH4x4]

Don't tell Paul, Pablo, or Robert. Blane, however, agrees 100%.

[@MD-tr6sh]

Long remote trips, take a toyota... Short technical trips, take any of the above..

[@SCORCH4x4]

Agreed that the 4Runner is the most road friendly of the lineup, but the bronco is not far behind, and a Rubicon JL isn’t as bad as everyone seems to think it is either.

[@RR137G]

Easy decision: Just ask youself do you want Ifs or live axle.

[@88rushrocks]

Jeep/Ford over the 4Runner any day every day

[@orlandoharo3]

4Runner 💯

[@GuniHunter]

Hi Jonathan, If you’re thinking of over landing and you need more space to haul your gears…4Runner is your best bet. 4 Runner definitely capable off road. Just get TRD!

[@SCORCH4x4]

Without a doubt the roomy rear cabin of the 4Runner is perhaps what attracted us most to it...and the IFS.

[@bradmckenzie3338]

Having had a 2gen 4runner I'd never get another based on reliability (trans and leaf springs) and gas mileage. The new Bronco would be my first choice and a close 2nd on the jeep. Ultimately, the jeep for off-road capabilities and the Bronco for a more balanced appeal on and off-road.

[@SCORCH4x4]

You hit the nail on the head. Do I want balance on pure off roading ability. Probably the latter if it’s for leading an off-roading group.

[@madprophetus]

You'll have to pay a $25k for the dealer's parking space for the Bronco, so that's an automatic loss in my book. $25k buys a lot of 4runner mods. Everything you need to tow a dead ford out of the wilderness, and more.

[@cooltoys7943]

TrdPro 4runner FTW

[@alexanderwu210]

I just want the one that can handle -30c and 120c all years round. I'm just common driver not super abuser.

[@tyronejenkins6445]

Jeep Rubicon diesel

[@jm-jm7yl]

4Runner, I want something that’s reliable

[@skoolynugenator1802]

I know which rig will last 300k miles minimum with zero issues.

[@electricstartclint]

Toyota is king, I like hitting the trail and making it back home.

[@TheBeatenPaths]

Don't get any of them. Get a Ranger Tremor, then you can actually take some gear with you

[@SCORCH4x4]

We are definitely leaning towards SUVs over pickups, but the Ranger is pretty sweet.

[@TradesmanOutdoorAdventures]

@@SCORCH4x4 Mind if I ask why? Is it the extra seating? Because a pickup with a topper is just as or more capable, and you can always add a topper to keep your gear clean/dry.

[@terrynichol577]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ford 😂😂😂😂😂