Toyotomi direct vent heaters - walk around video

[@brianchaplin9085BEC.]

Just installed a Toyotomi. We had our monitor heater for 26 years. I hope these are as efficient.

[@KPMExceptional]

We think you’ll love it. Thank you for your business!!

[@namewitheld]

Toyotomi or "Toyo" is the most popular heater in rural Alaska!

[@KPMExceptional]

we have heard that! If it can handle Alaska winters it should do great in the Northeastern US where we are!

[@Chris_at_Home]

We heat a large home with two Laser 30s. We have 7” of foam in the walls. We used less than 500 gallons last winter. We get pretty cold here. We have already had night down in the teens.

[@jonboz7585]

Can the units operate during power failure? Do they make a backup battery?

[@MrJesse3434]

Jon - great question! Toyotomi units run on 120 Volts AC, 60 Hz which is what most standard houses have in their walls. There are two wattage numbers for when it is running - Preheat which uses 240 Watts and burning which uses 48 Watts. This is very little electricity. It could definitely be ran for some time on a battery backup (maybe 1-2 hours of continuous use for a standard 900 watt UPS device). If you have a generator, even a small suitcase generator you could run this device indefinitely. Hope this helps!

[@jonboz7585]

Thanks for the reply. I must add that I have two, 40 yr old KeroSun heaters I’ve used as backups, and they still work perfectly. I like that Toyotomi is now going the direct vent route that’s much cleaner.

[@jeniroosen]

I have a 600 sq ft 104 year old log cabin. Current direct vent Empire freestanding propane heater is vented out the top of the cabin. Can I vent this out the roof too? It's a lofted ceiling, approx 12' ceiling.

[@KPMExceptional]

The Toyotomi heaters do have a flue extension available, which would allow you to bring the stack very close to the ceiling, but will have to vent sideways through the wall. I recommend contacting your local dealer, they may have a better solution.

[@redwolfoutcast114]

My parents had one these types of heaters manufactured by Monitor which ran on kerosene which has continually gone up in price,you may be better off getting a propane heater. For the cost of one of these big vented heaters you can get a wall mounted propane heater and 79 refills of a 40 pound propane tank.

[@KPMExceptional]

Actually, Monitor is out of business now, and parts are almost impossible to find. Toyotomi is offering a deal for those who have a monitor heater and want to purchase a new Toyotomi Laser heater. Learn more here: www.toyotomiusa.com/monitor052019-details.php. FYI If you fast forward to around 7:06 you can learn about pricing - these are VERY affordable units!

[@BigHouse907]

That all depends on where you live. Propane is an unregulated commodity. It varies in price around the country. I've seen it in the mid west for a little over a dollar a gallon, but in Alaska it can run five dollars and up. I converted from Propane to Toyo stoves and have saved a bundle over the past two winters.

[@HomeAccentStudio]

how long would a laser 730 run on 50 gals of diesel in a typical oregon winter (not alaska)? I know there are several variables, just looking for an estimated usage.

[@KPMExceptional]

Hi @HomeAccentStudio, unfortunately there are just too many variables to give an estimate. I suggest talking to a Toyotomi dealer and letting them know your situation and they should be able to give an estimate.

[@elizabethvillalobos4504]

The manual is difficult to understand. And the settings are confusing. I hope that this helps me understand

[@bennguyen1313]

Is it possible to route the heat to a small 64cu ft sauna via flexible tubing? Similarly, can the exhaust be vented thru flexible rubber tubing to the outside? I know some furnaces have trouble with back pressure, and not able to push hot-air into such a confined space.

[@KPMExceptional]

Hi Ben, thank you for your question! We checked with our tech team and unfortunately, Toyotomi heaters will not work for this application.

[@tayjones8552]

Do you have to buy a separate machine if already have one in your basement if you want to get heat on the floor above it?

[@dylanreischling4151]

Yes unless you have a way to get the air around your house

[@KPMExceptional]

You will need to purchase the lifter pump from your local Toyotomi supplier. More info on the lifter pump is in the video, starting around 6:06.

[@KPMExceptional]

FYI the lifter pump is VERY affordable and a great add on to get the fuel lifted up to the heater on a second floor!

[@jimturcotte5519]

I am looking to replace our Monitor 2200 with a Toyotomi 530. Will the vent pipe line up with the existing hole in the wall?

[@KPMExceptional]

Jim we are just seeing your comment now. We hope to have an answer today for you! Thanks for commenting.

[@KPMExceptional]

The size of the exhaust hole running outside is the same between a Toyotomi and Monitor so no need to drill a new hole. However there have been many changes over the years to the heaters and the exhaust line from the heaters may not be the same. Toyotomi makes a flexible exhaust line as an accessory in case you need to change the heights between units.

[@Tony_AKUT]

We may purchase a 731 and are venting in a corner. Can I have the vent pipe turned where the intake is on top and the exhaust pipe on the side?

[@KPMExceptional]

The vent kit is round and contains the intake and exhaust. There shouldn't be a need to have the exhaust on the side. But if you have more information we would love to help out.

[@Tony_AKUT]

@@KPMExceptionalthanks for the response. The 731/732 will replace our old monitor 441 and to use that same hole in the wall for the vent. I’ll have to turn the flue pipe to have the exhaust and L shape pipe lay horizontal. I will cap the bottom intake and use the top intake. From the technical, side I see no issue as venting directly through is also an option. The laser 30 model has this layout as standard in their manual online. Figure 10 and 11. Your opinion would be great to read! I’m remote and will have to do it myself.

[@KPMExceptional]

@@Tony_AKUT Beginning at the 2:54 min mark of the video, it will specifically walk you through the Toyotomi vent Kits and mounting into the corner of a room. As long as you have the intake hosed hooked to one of the intake connections on the vent kit and the exhaust is venting outside, we see no issues! Many customers directly replace Monitor units with the Toyotomi unit so installation should be very simple!

[@Tony_AKUT]

@@KPMExceptionalthank you! I appreciate that confirmation. I also found from the manufacturer info that you can have the flue pipe exhaust port turned to 3,6, or 9 o’clock. All will work. Never higher than that to not cause a negative exhaust risk. FYI if anyone else is reading this.

[@job38four10]

I'll check it out, I need something for next winter...........

[@tomzootsi9475]

I have a Monitor that runs on kero. The Toyotomi will run on kero or heating oil? Is there any advantage to continue using kero, or can I switch over to oil which is generally cheaper.

[@KPMExceptional]

The Toyotomi unit will run on either fuel as long as the heating oil is ultra low sulphur (less than 15ppm). A lot of states have already mandated that for their heating oil. Monitors were good units but they are no longer being sold and parts are getting harder to find. We’re confident you will be happy with a Toyotomi unit if you decide to switch!

[@00buck2]

I have a monitor heater just like the ones that use kerosene but mine uses LP gas or called Propane heats and works very good and don't use much gas like it much better than the one I had like it that used K-1 oil but both worked good. Model of the gas heater is GF 3800 made by MPI

[@roywest1473]

Can you install on an inside wall and vent into crawl space and on out the outside of foundation?

[@KPMExceptional]

You can definitely install the heater on an inside wall. Toyotomi sells vent kits, extension tubes, and elbows to run to an outside wall. We would NOT recommend venting into a crawl space - its best for the vent to be fully outside, both for intake and exhaust purposes. Here is a link to the Laser 531/532 owner's manual (the middle size heater). It shows 10 feet as the max vent pipe run with up to 3 bends. It also has an installation section that goes into greater detail towards the end of the manual. toyotomiusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Laser-531-and-532_Type-AEnglish.pdf Thanks for your question!

[@michaelkenny321]

Is there any way to keep the frost from building on the eaves in the winter? I don't have much wind and when it gets in the single digits I get over an inch of frost buildup.

[@maddmavic]

Cover with plastic and seal

[@KPMExceptional]

Michael - we're not sure exactly what you mean here. Can you please fill out a form here, and we'll get someone in contact with you? www.toyotomiusa.com/companyInfo.php

[@mudslinger888]

When you say OIL do you mean kerosene? Can I adjust or modify it to utilized used motor oil?

[@KPMExceptional]

great question. The oil we refer to is home heating oil. It is the same thing as diesel fuel. you are right, these heaters will also run on kerosene. however, these heaters will NOT run on used / old motor oil. hope that helps! thanks for your question

[@phuntsokangrup3871]

@@KPMExceptional, I got one as gift here in himalayas in India. This is very effective but I don't get kerosene easily here. Can I use diesel?

[@KPMExceptional]

@@phuntsokangrup3871 as long as it’s ultra low sulphur (15ppm or less) it will run on it perfectly! Thanks for your question and good luck.

[@colbolt54]

Can this be mounted outside the house where central unit used to be? I have a central unit thats trashed out with no chance of repair , can this unite work as a central heater when placed outside? I think no. But doesnt hurt to ask?!

[@dylanreischling4151]

Doc savage no this unit definitely can not be mounted outside

[@KPMExceptional]

Sorry for the delay on this Doc. Dylan is correct. Cannot be mounted outside. Is meant to be inside.

[@richardwatson5719]

I need a cap for my laser 73 it's on the blower motor where the rubber of ring sits down on it

[@KPMExceptional]

You can find your nearest servicing dealer using this web page: toyotomiusa.com/sales-service/

[@elizabethvillalobos8927]

I wish you show how to operate the models

[@KPMExceptional]

Elizabeth - these units are super simple to use. They have a digital display on the front and you set the temperature you want on it. The Toyotomi heater will do the rest! There are other features you ca use, too, that you can read about in the owners manual or here: www.toyotomiusa.com/factoryOutletStore/Vented-Heaters/L-730-Toyostove-Laser-Vented-Heater

[@josephroe1576]

The installer will run that by you.

[@putheflamesoutyahoo1503]

Is Toyo as good as or is it better than Monitor brand heaters? Is it easier to work on or the same?

[@KPMExceptional]

Toyo is just as easy to work on as a monitor. They were competitors for years before monitor went out of business. Toyo offers a deal for current monitor owners to trade their old heater in for a new Toyo. Let us know if you’re interested!

[@briangoodale7167]

Does Toyotomi make a heater that burns #2 home heating oil vs the very expensive K-1 Fuel?

[@KPMExceptional]

Yup! The Toyotomi Laser series vented heaters will run on home heating oil! The key thing is sulfur content - it needs to be below 15ppm. Most home heating oil these days is required to be lower than that. Thanks for your question!!

[@timd5597]

What fuels can toyo 73 operate on?

[@KPMExceptional]

All Toyotomi vented heaters are designed for use with ASTM D3699 1-K kerosene, ASTM D396 Low Sulfur No.1 Fuel Oil, ASTM D975 ULTRA Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD), or Ultra Low Sulfur Heating Oil (ULSHO). Use of low-quality fuel will cause burner performance to drop, leading to abnormal combustion and reduced heater life. Thanks for the question!

[@Agwings1960]

Does Toyotomi make a tankless water heater?

[@KPMExceptional]

Yup! You're looking for Toyotomi's OM series of water heaters. Both full on demand and semi on demand units. www.toyotomiusa.com/factoryOutletStore/Water-Heaters

[@ScottTherrien-z7x]

Can the laser 730unit burn #2heating fuel?

[@KPMExceptional]

Hey thanks for your question! The 730 unit can burn the following fuels: K-1 Kerosene, Low Sulfur #1 Heating Oil, Ultra Low Sulfur #2 Heating Oil, or Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel Fuel. Please note, when burning fuels other than K-1 Kerosene, it should be expected that it will result in a dirtier burn where more exhaust and combustion contaminants will then exist.

[@gregfutrelle1396]

why is the background music so loud? it is annoying when trying to listen to the important information the speaker is delivering.

[@maddmavic]

I have a toyotomi laser 30 and it makes high pitch squeel . Says error ee 8 blower motor failure. N wont start. I can get it to start by spinning the fan om back n turn the temp up high. Once going it will go ok till shuts down from temp reaching the level . But makes the squeeling most the time

[@KPMExceptional]

We would love to help you with your issue. Where are you located? Can you send us your info using this form please: www.toyotomiusa.com/companyInfo.php

[@00buck2]

was searching for LP propane gas heater something like the MPI I have been using for years after watching for long time and then going to where you pick the size and buy found out it is a oil heater not gas.

[@KPMExceptional]

Sorry that the Toyotomi doesn't match your needs! If you need natural gas or propane, you could check out Rinnai heaters, found here: www.rinnai.us/residential/direct-vent-furnaces

[@00buck2]

@@KPMExceptional Thanks

[@naturalhealing9970]

Will these run on natural gas?

[@KPMExceptional]

The Toyotomi heater can run on ultra low sulphur home heating oil, diesel or kerosene. Ultra low sulfur home heating oil is the most common home heating oil product in the US! If you have propane or natural gas, you may want to check out a Rinnai heater: www.rinnai.us/home-heating

[@garyemerson7135]

What does a EE22 CODE for?

[@KPMExceptional]

EE-22 code comes on after getting a E-2 code three times consecutively, fuel may accumulate in the burner. Remove fuel in the burner, Heater will not re-start by the power button. Must un-plug the heater. E-2 code Out of fuel/no flame. Check flame rod, check fuel pump. If this is outside of your knowledge, you are best off contacting your Toyotomi Dealer. If you need help finding one let us know!

[@spirittall3905]

After 1 month of having my new toyotomi 730 hooked up it still is making a clicking and clanging noise every time it starts up. very distracting because I am a light sleeper.

[@KPMExceptional]

jo Kilmer we are very sorry to hear that. Have you called your installer for help troubleshooting? If you need further help please send us a message and we’ll see what we can do!

[@iship9705]

have one for natuel gas ?

[@dylanreischling4151]

I Ship only diesel or kerosene

[@KPMExceptional]

The Toyotomi heater can run on diesel or kerosene, as Dylan suggested below. It can also run on ultra low sulfur home heating oil, which is the most common home heating oil product in the US! If you have propane or natural gas, you may want to check out a Rinnai heater: www.rinnai.us/home-heating

[@Agwings1960]

If Toyotomi would build a heater that would use vehicle diesel, they could dramatically increase their market.

[@KPMExceptional]

Great question! Toyotomi Laser heaters DO run on diesel! They run on home heating oil, diesel fuel, and kerosene. The specifics are: ASTM D3699 K1 KEROSENE ASTM D396 NO.1 LOW SULFUR FUEL OIL ASTM D975 ULTRA LOW SULFUR HEATING OIL/ DIESEL

[@Agwings1960]

@@KPMExceptional Well I know in Alaska that diesel from the automotive pumps and heating oil for your house are identical, but in the lower 48, it's not the same thing. I tried to use automotive diesel here in TX, in a Monitor heater that I brought back from Alaska, and it doesn't work.

[@KPMExceptional]

@@Agwings1960 We don't sell monitor so cannot comment on your issues with that heater. KPM covers New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania for Toyotomi products. In all 3 of those states, #2 home heating oil is the most common home heating oil product. It is identical to pump diesel fuel. Both can be used safely in Toyo heaters as long as they are ultra low sulphur (below 15 ppm), which most are these days. Cool stuff!

[@phuntsokangrup3871]

What is home heating oil?

[@andyandcallie]

Will this run on kerosene?

[@KPMExceptional]

It sure will!

[@andyandcallie]

@@KPMExceptional Thank you!

[@samiarashid8508]

When it written Fuel and we full it but doesn’t work

[@elizabethvillalobos4504]

I reall need to know how to operate in my home

[@KPMExceptional]

Elizabeth - we are sorry to hear you are having issues operating your heater! Your question is very broad so it would be hard to try and answer in a KZbin comment. Instead, we need to get you in contact with a Toyotomi expert. Your first stop / call should be to your local Toyotomi dealer who sold you the unit. If you cannot get an answer from them, you can try emailing [e-mail] and we will do our best to help! Thanks for your comment.

[@allywilkeforsenate]

Will this burn whale oil?I want to put it on a whale hunting ship.

[@KPMExceptional]

Unfortunately whale oil is not a supported fuel for Toyotomi heaters. Good luck with your whale hunting!

[@allywilkeforsenate]

@@KPMExceptional You guys are the best!

[@Rene046]

problem is the extreme clean oil those need, with is high fuel price...

[@KPMExceptional]

15ppm is the standard for many states now with home heating oil! It is here in NY NJ and PA. Home heating oil is already used by many homes across the country. In that case adding a Toyotomi heater is super simple. If you don’t want to use home heating oil you can also use diesel or off road diesel, or kerosene! Out of all of those fuels kerosene tends to be the most expensive in our area. Thanks for your comment!

[@Rene046]

@@KPMExceptional hi i live in Europe...i pay 55 Euro for 20 liter of Qlima Kristal fuel... that's $66,66 for 5.28 Gallon. And that's the cheapest price some go to even 60 to 70 Euro for 20 liters. I asked Qlima if i can use cheaper class C purified oil ( from Belgium around 1 euro per liter ), they did not advice it because the unit will die way faster, I have some laser heaters.

[@KPMExceptional]

@@Rene046 in the US the price per gallon of oil is well below that. And there are rules about the sulphur content in many states needing to be under 15ppm. We're lucky!

[@Rene046]

​@@KPMExceptional here the Qlima companies tell to use only their brand fuel which is so expensive.. sulfur content less than 0.0001% aromatic content less than 0.007%. If you use other type of fuel, they drop your guaranty. they can check with UV lights. I would like to know if i also could use European type C petrol which is also sold to heat indoors and is also cleaned petrol "Kerosine" (hydrodesulfurized). Of Course qlima says NO, because their fuel is extreme clean. Does this mean their heaters are build different than others other companies. and other companies are making them better because they are not so sensitive for other cleaned petroleum? here info about the Type petroleum. www.gabriels.be/sites/gabriels/files/pdf/technische_fiche_petroleum_type_c.pdf

[@KPMExceptional]

@@Rene046 Unfortunately we cannot speak to the fuel types outside of the areas we cover. KPM is only the Toyotomi representative in NJ, NY, and PA in the USA. Sorry we can't help more!

[@an-tm3250]

Excellent! American ingenuity???

[@KPMExceptional]

Toyotomi heaters are built in Japan and sold through Toyotomi USA in Brookfield, CT. KPM is a 100% US distributor, started in 1957 in NJ. Please let us know if you have any questions - we are happy to help!

[@arpir97]

Why Toyotomi uses old 70-80's displays and control panels

[@tim8767]

Reliability would be my guess.

[@KPMExceptional]

Tim, you are correct!

[@katieh3236]

Sounds smelly

[@KPMExceptional]

Believe it or not, there is no smell when running these units! Both the intake and exhaust are housed in one tube that goes through your outside wall. No smell inside the house and really no smell outside either!