iSta Breeze Heli 2.0, i2000, i500, Missouri Freedom, and a washing machine! All day output!

[@ronaldjbenton]

This video is worth it's weight in gold. I'm a total newb. I've learned a ton. My question I was going to ask when I first started watching was, "Is the heli worth it?" Got my answer very quickly! Thank-you thank-you thank-you!

[@texastater8333]

After 67 years I have found a hobby in wind generation that actually pays me back while having a great time doing it.

[@GruntmanG]

Dude, you've done a great job at explaining your efforts, failures, results and motivated me to get a Heli 2000 to compliment my two 4 Kw micro hydro units which is run of the river and has low production during winter. Got 10 Kw battery bank and hybrid inverters - for now.

[@colinbratu8030]

is the Heli 2000 just twisting in high wind or is also raising the the engine like the Wind Safe 2000 ? if it's just twisting i guess is more comfortable to be used in day to day energy production !

[@Suavache]

Exploiting wind energy, an endless source of energy, contributing to environmental protection, reducing the load on thermal power plants, very great video, thank you

[@jounikyy7715]

using own solar or wind dont reduce nuclear or damming at all they building more nuclear even if u life in cave

[@defjamsgreen]

The system is still doing great even at low winds💨 during the day and late evening hours . Keep it up and running 🏃‍♀️. 🤙👍🏿

[@get_better_academy]

Thanks a lot, very helpful experiment! 😊

[@silverleapers]

I always let the ads run. Thanks for your efforts. Hellooo from Newfoundland Canada. I'm putting up a HenryD FD4 3-4Kw turbine next month.

[@LydellAaron]

Thank you for conducting experiments like this.

[@paulw106]

Great Vid, I've been undecided about replacing my Missouri Rebel with the Ista-Breeze 2000 for a while now but after seeing this I've ordered one, there's no comparison in output, thanks for the info. The Missouri is like a lead brick in a life jacket compared to the Ista-Breeze turbines.

[@closertothetruth9209]

yes many of us have felt your pain, its go big or go home

[@kimmogensen5390]

thanks for your effort.. you provide a wide range of turbine data over time and that is a big help for ppl trying to figure out what model and make to purchase,, and your sligtly odd setup gives ppl a look into what can be done with a small amount of money and a bit of thinking out of the box ,,instead of just going for the `magic` controller it helps ppl understand the process and gives them pointers to make a system that works for them,,

[@Ellscreekhomestead]

Wanna say thanks for these videos man I'm starting to slowly get my wind turbines going even a hydro generator with are creek

[@AERIALSPIRE184]

excellent job !!! keep up the good work !!!

[@Sunspirit8]

Thank you for sharing brother. I received the shipment 4 pc 35kg package 📦 wind turbine

[@markwright7680]

Great real time comparisons. It would have been great if you could have had an anemometer displaying the actual wind speeds alongside the power generation.

[@ToysforWatts]

I would love to be able to do a complete data log but I simply can't afford the equipment that would be required :/...right now if I included an anemometer I could only say "XXX turbine made this much power over the last 60 minutes and the wind is blowing YYmph right now"...which wouldn't be very helpful. I hope some day I can get get a rig that can actually datalog not only wind speed but also my total system output.

[@garys-half-baked-offgrid-dream]

There is a surprising difference in output of the heli 2.0 and the I2000. If they are both 2Kw I would of expected the to be closer together. Still good numbers for that time period.

[@ToysforWatts]

It can be a little misleading because they're both 2kw models...but the Heli and i2000 are VERY different. The Heli is a much bigger, much more powerful turbine and the powerband is more of an aggressive arc as it speeds up, the i2000's powerband is more linear. They'll both hit that 2kw around the 28mph area, but at about 15~20mph the Heli will be making 1200w while the i2000 will be making 800w. Since most of the time is spent at lower wind speeds the Heli nets more power.

[@eco_guardian]

Great video Justin. I would love to see a video on the differences between 3 and 5 blade turbines. What the pros and cons are. What are your thoughts on that?

[@ToysforWatts]

It's hard to do a proper comparison because in order to show real world results you have to have two turbines of identical specs at the same height in the same wind at the same time and that kind of thing tends to be tricky to pull off. The right number of blades depends a lot on the turbine. With very few exceptions micro turbines require high RPM to produce usable power, and to have high RPM you need a lightweight rotor. The heavier your rotor is the more parasitic it is....meaning it has more inertia and takes more of the wind's power to turn. More blades is more weight, but has the potential to harvest more of the wind's power in a swept area at lower wind speeds. If you take a rotor with three blades and a rotor with six blades, if all other aspects remain the same then the six blade rotor will start spinning in lower wind but will never be able to reach the speeds the three blade rotor will reach. The whole thing is a balancing act.

[@James-op6ls]

Love me these style of wind turbine videos. Definitely recommend putting a counterweight on your camera, to make the motion smoother. John, the other wind turbine guy, must have a heavier camera as his motion is a bit gentler

[@ToysforWatts]

I appreciate the criticism! I generally just hold the camera but sometimes I struggle with looking at what I'm filming instead of looking at what my camera is filming! It's something I need to actively work on. A gimbal would be nice, though...I think I'll go shopping for one!

[@Sailorman6996]

The book that came with my Air403 from South West wind power, say a turbine shall be 8 meters or 26.25 feet above the highest point of everything within 150 meters or 492 feet. Including houses, trees and other stuff.

[@EricZuber-z6l]

When you se a wind turbine panning back and forth it means it is not high enough and is engulfed in turbulence.

[@frankerdorf899]

Hi, can you please explain me, how the Heli 2.0 is connected to the batteries? What I see, a three phase rectifier, measurement shunts and the Batteries. What system voltage do the Batteries provide? What is between the measurement shunts and the Batteries? Are you using a controller? What type? Thank you

[@ToysforWatts]

There's no controller, my system is total loss. I have grid tie inverters connected to my batteries that turn on any time the turbines are making more than 50v.

[@CeriHowells-o3x]

I am trying to do my best to "go green". Just built a house in the UK which runs an efficient 17kw air source heat pump to provide heating and hot water requirements. I have been looking online and have seen a 7kw vertical wind turbine by Tesup. The turbine, inverter and wind speed monitor would set me back £1200. I have mains power and can feed unused electricity back to the national grid. My house is located on a hill in a high wind area but is within a mile of the coast so I am worried about rust.. I have no technical knowledge or previous experience with turbines. Would you kindly answer two questions: 1. Even if i manage to get 50% of the advertised output is it worth installing the Tesup (or any other brand you recommend) without investing in batteries? (Additional set up cost v value for money) 2. Are there products you can guide me towards of a marine grade? Many thanks for your broadcasts which have motivated me to consider this option. Ceri

[@saedzzakaraya1586]

Thanks for sharing, it's very useful. I have 2 questions, how many watts do you get on Heli when low wind 7 to 10 mph? and how many hours it takes to charge 20% of 4 GEL battries 48V (4 X 12V - 225AH) at low wind (7-10 mph)?

[@ToysforWatts]

That's actually a really hard question to answer...I'm having to do a LOT of speculating because our wind here tends to be go all out or not at all. It generally takes a little bit of a gust just to get the turbine going so you have to have that at the beginning...it's going to have a REALLY tough time starting up at only 7mph...but once going it'll idle along at those speeds without any issue. Right now our wind is only moving about 10mph and it was making between 200 and 300 watts...guessing on the low side we'll say 200w. I'm assuming your 225ah is TOTAL and is already accounting for the fact that you can only get about 50% of the rated amp hours out of a lead acid battery and that you're charging from an "empty" state. So that gives you a capacity of 900w. From there it's a matter of dividing capacity by output...so 900/200. That'd give you 4.5 hours to fully charge assuming you're averaging 200w.

[@andreblanchard8315]

You seem to have problems stalling, like the generator output is not matched to the load. My old whisper 1000 can be rewired for 12, 24, or 48 volt systems by different series/parallel combinations of the coils. I think there is also some wierd setup for 36 volts. I get the feeling these newer systems do not have that option.

[@heathcwalker]

If that was a grid tied inverter, just get the 1000 or 1400 watt ones, they're only about $135 each, so multiple small ones are way cheaper than one big one. And then you'll have redundancy.

[@clevilbarnett1995]

I have an Istafreeze wind turbine .It only runs if it is put on free first. When the wind dies down and it stops when the wind picks up again it does not start back onits own.Can you also tell me how many amps the turbine is capable of producing ? A

[@SailingAsmara]

Can you load a bank of 12v batteries, with a higher voltage windmill i.i 24v or 48v and if so where can I find how to set this up.

[@georgedoherty962]

The very mention of the "Turkish Delight" Ista Breeze made me laugh out loud. I was a moderator on the old Navitron RE forum and Ista Breeze brought us more enquiries and laughs in a month than all the other Makes and Brands combined for a year. I mean who makes a 500watt turbine with a single bearing on the shaft and the rear of tbe shaft left hanging in an empty space.., The complaints department was very tactful and would send another useless replacement almost immediately. His move to Germany from Ankara was a masterstroke because he was able to claim " German Engineering".

[@closertothetruth9209]

ahah you answered a major question i had years ago, it was bamboozling , turkey or germany, i will search ista breeze teardowns, missouries arent any better bearing wise imop

[@colinbratu8030]

great video ! how do you call the monitor little displays ? thank you from UK !!!

[@ToysforWatts]

They are just AC and DC watt meters. For most turbines you're going to measure off rectified DC voltage and you're want one like this: www.ebay.com/itm/281768704865

[@noralhoda6495]

جزاك الله كل خير If I have two wind turbines can I plug them on the same battery

[@ToysforWatts]

Absolutely you can! My Heli 2.0, i2000, and the washing machine turbine all go to the same battery bank. You need to make sure the turbines all operate at similar voltages and if you care about your batteries each turbine will need its own individual controller and brake/dump load.

[@2626sylver2626]

The i500 the tale its kinda small if you mount something light to make if follow better the wind I ensure you it will make more power

[@robertoleszek8361]

Ive installed my ista breeze i-2000 over my roof in east Scotland. Wind blows 5-8m/s and it doesn't spin. With stormy weather it spins full speed bunt produces only 19 w/h

[@ToysforWatts]

What voltage is the i2000? What kind of controller are you using? What batteries and voltage?

[@robertoleszek8361]

@@ToysforWatts itsv48v battery system. Inuse orginal ista breeze dc charging controller. It's 48v according to the label on it. Phase to phase in stormy weather no more than 54VAC

[@ToysforWatts]

Disconnect it from the controller and see if it spools up smoothly and quickly. Measure AC current from phase to phase that way...and do this is "not stormy" weather :D I have not used the iSta Breeze controller myself so there may be some function there holding you back that I'm not familiar with. What's your battery voltage when it's barely turning? The controller may not let the turbine spool up until the batteries are low.

[@robertoleszek8361]

@@ToysforWatts hi the problem is that it doesn't spin at 5-8m/s so I cannot measure it. My weather station showsxa diagram so of wind direction and speed. And its perfect. Ibthingbthat yhe turbine is an issue. I live bybthe sea in east of Scotland.

[@ToysforWatts]

If it's not spooling up even when it's disconnected from the controller then there is likely a short in the cabling coming down the tower, or worse. Unfortunately it's time to bring it down an do a full inspection. If you measure resistance across the three phase leads when disconnected from the controller, what do they read?

[@Business24353]

The placement for a few of the turbine looks far worse than the others, i think that comparing them is not really fair when they are not at the same heights and distance from buildings and trees that makes turbulence in the air. I really like your videos tho :) I have always been interested in making my own electricity. I live in Norway and i am looking to buy a house/homestead on the western side of Norway where there is alot of wind out by the sea.

[@ToysforWatts]

You are right that they do not all get great air all of the time, but the three important ones (the Heli, i2000, and washer motor) all get good wind unless it's due north/south...which is uncommon and has a fairly marginal effect between the Heli and i2000 (a north or south wind puts one in the prop wash of the other). However, when I was logging the outputs of the Heli vs the i1500 their totals were still within the same ratios so I think the overall effect isn't reduced much. All of them should be higher but I have some height limitations I'm forced to deal with.

[@akhilleusuggo]

Hello, why don't you set the low power turbines in series. This will increase the voltage output. You just need a diode rectifier; which I suppose that you already have.

[@randylenart9674]

Looks like ya have alot of sun there that you could be utilizing have you ever thought about adding some solar

[@ToysforWatts]

Certainly just hasn't been a priority. I live in a very, very rare area where small turbines can compete economically with solar panels...but even so it's a hard thing to really pull off. I do need to get a few small panels for the sake of floating my battery bank (parasitic loss from the inverters and meters is hard on them when I don't have wind for a week), just haven't found the right deal yet. I would like to build a 5~10kw array at some point.

[@lonmar44]

Good deal the 1st one that produces a lot of power can we have the link for that please I like what you're doing man thank you

[@ralphfoster3088]

I'm looking for a small 500w turbine to supplement my solar. For some reason I like the egg beater style. I am living in the Philippines and selection is small purchase most things on Lazada Any suggestions?

[@ToysforWatts]

Unfortunately all of the consumer available vertical turbines are either rubbish or unreasonably expensive. I looked at lazada and they have the same offerings as we have on eBay and Amazon mostly and the vertical turbines there are the same rubbish. This turbine is actually a pretty reliable style: www.lazada.com.ph/products/500w-2448-volt-home-wind-for-turbines-generator-power-nylon-fiber-3-blade-horizontal-windmill-energy-for-turbines-charge-i2922008525-s14221934024.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.19.13c742d1Sqyuao&search=1&freeshipping=1

[@ralphfoster3088]

@@ToysforWatts Thank you. Have you heard of this brand before?

[@joeyking4946]

What do you think about changing the blades on the i500 and The Missouri wind and see if the performance gets better or not, I do think the i 500 should be up higher with better blades

[@ToysforWatts]

I actually did try different blades on the i500 without a lot of change in performance. Ultimately what it needs is height and cleaner air. If it can maintain RPM it actually makes a lot of power, but it just can't get that kind of wind in its current location. I think the Missouri turbine could probably perform a little better with only three blades, but not enough to make it competitive with other turbines in it's price bracket. The $300 delco clones on eBay are mechanically identical.

[@brianm4789]

Hi. Am I right in reading that the test is over a 13hr period rather than 24hrs. Am interested in getting the i2000 to complement a solar array.

[@ToysforWatts]

That would be correct. Our wind here tends to pick up hard late morning and die off in the evenings.

[@wirebrigade4306]

Hi. How does the heli 2 brake? Does it short all 3 phases same as the i2000? I have an i2000 and the slip rings failed and the turbine cannot be stopped. Do you have a link to slip rings for i2000 that you have changed.

[@kristiankrogh3227]

Do you have a explanation, why the I2000 only produce 75% of the Heli, they are the same size😳?

[@ToysforWatts]

It's misleading because they are both 2000w rated machines, but the Heli 2.0 is about twice the size as the i2000. It is about as big as it gets in terms of micro wind turbines. It caps out at just over 2500w in really strong wind, but it's making a lot of it's power in lower wind at much lower RPM. Essentially, they are rated at the same peak outputs, but the Heli spends more time producing power.

[@lloydcole5787]

Wow hang on... so I been struggling to get i2000 to go nice. I been asking about the heli2000 asking is it bigger or better I got told no it's same motor. I then asked for 5 blade kit for mine as does not start up much. Guy at ista then said ah but 5 blades will slow you down. I then asked again so are 5 blade turbines that state 2kw same size motors to get yes. So what you would say here. Heli much bigger and catches wind better??

[@Deiphobuzz]

@@lloydcole5787 yeah, the heli is 3m diameter, i2000 and i1500 2.25m.

[@Celticmaori]

Just wondering if your washing machine stator is a 36 or 42 pole . And what wiring type did you run with . Thanks

[@ToysforWatts]

36 poles and for this video I have it broken down into four sets of 9 coils.

[@Meglenger]

I seen you changed the blades for the Heli do you think that the blades for the i2000 are also hampering it's performance or that they are sufficient for the motor on that model?

[@ToysforWatts]

The Heli and the i2000 are very different. The Heli needs a LOT of torque just to get started while the i2000 is all about RPM. I might be able to get more performance out of the i2000 with different blades, but it will always need lightweight and fast blades.

[@erikslagter3231]

What do you recommend: 3 or 5 blades. that is my question?? I am looking into buying a ista-breeze i2000

[@ToysforWatts]

Always three.

[@mo.Travelin2]

Do you have purchase/affiliate links/codes? Did you create the washer turbine? If so would you consider helping develop a similar concept? What about Alibaba wind turbines such as pitch control wind power turbine 5kw?

[@ToysforWatts]

I don't have any affiliate codes for discounts at this time, but it's something I might work on. The washer turbine is a scratch assembly of other stuff...a generic chinese turbine for the body/mount/slip ring, an LG washing machine motor, an iSta Breeze 5-blade hub and blades, and a stop sign. You might say I created the tail boom but its really just a piece of steel box tubing so not much to create lol. I have a series of videos up on it in my playlist section that show how i did everything, but I'm always happy to help others create their own. Not sure about a 5kw turbine on alibaba. I looked briefly and only see the typical generic scam turbines, got a link to the one you're talking about? If you post a link KZbin will probably remove the comment but it gets emailed to me anyway, I'll still be able to check it out and respond.

[@mo.Travelin2]

@@ToysforWatts honestly, I did post a link, I think KZbin removed it. I have a nomad/skoolie fitness generator concept on PowerPoint but don't know how to bring it to life. Nor how to find an engineer to help bring it to life. Do you have an Instagram/forum to share ideas?

[@ToysforWatts]

If you added the link in when you edited the comment it doesn't get email to me...only the original comment in the original format. Post the link in a comment and it'll get emailed to me. But I do happen to be quite fond of the fieldlines forum. You can find it here: www.fieldlines.com/index.php Facebook is also full of great wind turbine groups, "diy solar and wind" and "diy wind turbines" are great groups, but there's a lot of good ones to pull information from.

[@mo.Travelin2]

@@ToysforWatts it was just a generic one. You already answered by noting they are mostly scams. Signed up for that forum. I suppose I can google best home wind turbines reviews.

[@biehpham8323]

What's a good wind charge controller for a 24volt ista breeze 1600watt turbine?

[@ToysforWatts]

I'm personally a fan of the Midnite Classic 150. You will have to either build ($) or buy ($$$) a clipper to help keep voltage under control, but the controller itself is fantastic. Lots of videos out there on how to build your own clipper.

[@biehpham8323]

@@ToysforWatts Thank you... fan of your videos

[@nunzioguaragno9384]

Hi, I would like to buy this turbine. how does it behave? I would also like to know, better 3 blades or 5? A thousand thanks

[@ToysforWatts]

Which one specifically? I have five different models featured in this video.

[@nunzioguaragno9384]

@@ToysforWatts. istabreeze i-2000

[@ToysforWatts]

Three blades is always better. I'm pretty pleased with the i2000, it's held up great over the last year.

[@shitina.bucket9699]

🌬⚡🔌

[@marcusandatlas844]

Since the heli 2.0 is 4x the price of the i2000, wouldn't it be more economical AND more efficient to buy four of the i2000's instead?

[@Deiphobuzz]

And buy four towers, four rectifiers, four long cables.. cable and tower is probably more expensive than the i2000 by itself.

[@dougw7587]

doesn't look like the 500 turbine is as high as the others, that could play a big roll in why it's not producing. The other all look higher.

[@ToysforWatts]

It's not and that does indeed hurt it...that spot was a pretty decent spot two years ago when I started this stuff, but since then the tree on the other side of the shop has grown up a little too much. It still works okay with wind out of the South, but those blades on it do NOT like the air to be dirty at all. I'm contemplating moving it up by the our driveway and using it to run a little battery bank with some driveway markers. It's a good little turbine, just not good where it is.

[@artofwebdesign]

Can it be that one of the three strings of the I500 is out of order ? Than it produces very little. You said you had had short circuit in the lines. Perhaps there is something wrong, because the blades are also turning well.

[@MR-ee3be]

Wish i knew about Ista breeze before getting ripped off by smaraad!

[@MaximusAurelius1987]

What’s a website that tells me wind potential for my address?

[@ToysforWatts]

Easiest thing to do is to use google and search the average wind speed for your area. There's sites like globalwindatlas.info but they're not generally reliable. It's often a matter of making a judgement call.

[@jounikyy7715]

needs ducted wind like sail boats go faster than wind

[@dskhalsa489]

Hello sir I am interested Wind turbine

[@mmichal81]

I need a controller for a lithium ion battery for a wind power plant

[@sAINT898]

Looks like those Missouri wind turbines are garbage. Glad i didn't buy one of them.

[@ToysforWatts]

I think they have their place, used correctly they can be decent turbines, but they're as bad as the unbranded Chinese sellers with claims.

[@hasaberen5063]

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