TP 4070-CM.. FACTORY DEFECT or NORMAL?

[@msbs1813]

Love these motors I got mine directly from TP power

[@toysforboysrc]

Don’t they take for ever and have no customer support??

[@msbs1813]

@@toysforboysrc not really took about a week for me to get mine. Customers service I can’t really speak on never had to call them

[@REPORODGE]

Motor tolerance it will wear in all our drag motors do

[@toysforboysrc]

Good to know thanks for your input on this video! Much appreciated 💪

[@raymondgarcia5535]

Put power to it, it's gonna float. That's the part that gives its directional pull. Very strong motor 💪🏻

[@toysforboysrc]

As in the counter balancing will pull it to center I imagine you’re saying., idk bcs it was my first TP purchase but customer service was awesome. I had already put in a return for this motor before it arrived bcs I accidentally ordered a 5mm shaft instead of 8mm shaft but I could not help looking at it soon as it came in but I’m glad I did bcs the second motor did not have the binding issue but it wasn’t perfect either so that tells me that TP motors are just like that.

[@80s9]

So I’m guessing this will and can only be checked if the rear is vented which everyone is not going to chose

[@toysforboysrc]

That’s how I was able to see it visually but I first noticed when the motor would get bound up while turning the shaft with a small pinion in my hands. I never had a TP until then so I was being pretty observant.

[@orangemound135]

Thanks for the knowledge did no how to check motors...

[@toysforboysrc]

Thanks., but neither did I. It was my first TP motor so I was scrutinizing it and customer service was bliss.. Fast forward today, it is an amazing motor. Inner tolerances are still super tight. Regardless nobody has ever reported a motor failure due to inner tolerance issues or that we know of. But it’s good to get familiar with your rc cars.

[@rcbustanut2057]

Bud, thanks for sharing this. I had also watched your previous vid on rhe shafts & was glad you shared it regardless of the haters. Bringing attention of "what to look for" when you get a part in to make sure it's 100% good is great knowledge in my opinion & that's why I'm thankful that you took the time to make these vids! 😎 👍

[@toysforboysrc]

Thank you for the support.. you would think that other larger channels who make a lot more purchases than small channels would encounter quality control defects a lot more often on their channel but you won’t find that because they don’t want negativity on their channel or criticism. Most bigger channels also do a lot of business with retailers and they have a good relationship or a friendship and they handle these matters over the phone with no discrepancies because they work together and there’s no need to put anybody on blast. I definitely didn’t intend to put anybody on blast or make anybody look bad, but at the same time it’s not too unusual to receive something that needs to be returned, and it will frustrate anybody. So the video was an opportunity to be honest with the public. However, I did learn a couple lessons from posting these types of videos… Which is basically waiting to cool down and not create content, while I am upset because it gives the wrong impression and it’s always good to contact the manufacturer or retailer and sort out the problem over the phone at least. That way when you create content you can at least explain what happened and how it’s being taken care of rather than ending the video with only my side of the story. This has helped me build better relationships with retailers so I guess it was a learning experience for all of us.

[@rcbustanut2057]

@@toysforboysrc Thanks, absolutely understandable. & agree. There's always going to be manufacturing errors, it's inevitable. And as long as the company tries to make it right & address the issue quickly, it's all good. Lol, I remember people giving me a hard time with wltoys. They were the first RC cars I owned when I 1st got into the hobby. I gave my honest review & experience & got push back from the wltoys fans. It is what it is, can't make everyone happy lol.

[@10krms54]

So what ever happen did they fix it for u, i am looking into these motor not sure where to get it. just in case something like these happens. Its very clear n loud enough to her it.

[@toysforboysrc]

Hi, it’s complicated… I “meant” to order it with an 8mm shaft but accidentally ordered one with a 5mm shaft. When I realized it several hours later I called to modify my order to an 8mm but it had already shipped, so before it arrived we already had the return/exchange lined up before I even made the video. Of course I was eager to see it in person bcs I never owned a TP before. I like to scrutinize things that’s just me, so I could not resist making the video bcs eeeeevery body has a TP but I NEVER heard or seen anyone talk about what I was looking at and it started a storm of ppl worrying😒but half said that it will brake in after a while and to be honest I never seen or heard of a failure from this clearance stuff, but this topic could go on for ever🤷‍♂️.. anyway I continued to proceed with the return and when the identical motor but with the 8mm shaft arrived, it also had a super fine clearance and spun better but at that point I realized that that’s just how TP motors are and I stopped worrying about it so I didn’t mention anything to not sound like a Karen lmao or like the picky guy that I am, but that pays off with clients as I’m a perfectionist. I never ever had any problems with my 4070 2200kv 8mm TP motor, but I truly got worried during that initial first unboxing ever. Tip…. I also noticed that although I bought it from (island hobby 🫶#1) I also did research on the actual TP motor website and I found a section that said if there is a factory defect, it must be sent to TP motors them selves for inspection.. so I was partially worried that I would have to deal with TP instead of Island Nut because TP doesn’t even talk to their customers which is why I went with Island Nut to begin with. I’ve had other customer needs with Island nut concerning more future purchases from them and the owner IZZY is a SUPER awesome guy. So after getting to know the staff, they really treat you good!

[@KG-qs7rk]

excellent catch, now I know what to look for before leaving the store. thank you

[@toysforboysrc]

That’s what I should to as well.., go to a store and see them in person.

[@rpmwithabdullah3473]

I had the same issue with a 4070 motor from island hobby nut it was a TP motor

[@UAERCADDICTS]

😊

[@toysforboysrc]

Oh wow I thought I was the first bcs it’s not a talked about matter.

[@IAMEX314]

I agree TP does not answer the phone. I tried for months before I just went with Castle for my current project.

[@toysforboysrc]

Yes I have the 1717/1650 and it’s a Beast! Not many motors can perform well on both 6s and 8s. Most 8s motors run poorly on 6s bcs there’s not enough voltage, but the 1717 runs great on both 6s and 8s. Btw I ordered my TP from Island Hobby Nut and it came within 3 days! Suuuper fast shipping and they have a great staff and support. They even carry Scorched parts too.

[@onemansvideos2134]

If I can't speak to a manufacturer I don't purchase and they don't get my money

[@javieracosta6281]

U live and learn any other brand I’m pretty sure has some type of customer service. With tp you on your own if the owner of the place don’t help you. You pretty much fucked

[@javieracosta6281]

@@toysforboysrc i understand and u right buttt at least have someway of contacting the manufacturer at least for questions or concern. If shit brakes it brakes I get it

[@toysforboysrc]

@@javieracosta6281 … island hobby does have a U.S. number and email. Their good with the phones but a little slow on email. The actual TP manufacturer shows a number possibly out of state like china idk but that number will ring for ever no one picks up. At that point I didn’t even consider email. If that’s all in China, forget about it.. China doesn’t adhere to U.S. standards and regulations.

[@jimveerm3]

I bought a motor from Tp few years back and they sent me a new rotor because the motor blew up.i cant say anything bad about TP they were very professional.

[@mitchellminer4596]

Good catch buddy!👍👍Definitely proves that not all new products are in 100% condition! Great info and 👍 lookin out for the community as always👊👌.... and well a burn down car after 133mph pass is bad enough!🤣ask me how I know😂🤣 but if the car rolled 2 ft stopped moving and went up in flames after building it..... yup that would cause a whole new vocabulary to be written up in the dictionary outa me! Good stuff buddy!👍👍

[@toysforboysrc]

EDIT: Update 2-26-23 the item was sent back the following day and down time was about 6 days.. So getting to it.., My overall experience with Island Nut Hobby was great! Things happen fast due to the fact they’re located in N.Y. of USA and that they also have a good sized staff! They have a reliable number you can call and they always answer the phones! If you have a technical question, there are at least two mechanics or techs that I know of who can answer those questions. Island Nut Hobby’s staff is also punctual with email replies and communications. Since buying the TP motor from Island Nut Hobby, I have continued shopping with island Nut for other much needed rc parts!

[@danb.4571]

Glad they stepped up for you. I’ve generally heard good things about their customer service. I ordered some of their carbon fiber GT side plates for my Typhon once and they were drilled backwards. I never contacted them about it though, I just decided to keep them and re-drill the two center holes. Typically the best course of action when a problem arises is respectful contact with the seller.

[@toysforboysrc]

@@danb.4571 … thanks I can appreciate that. Communications and customer service 20 years ago was nothing like what it is today and I’ve learned a few things the hard way but I’m slowly getting it all together.

[@IAMEX314]

You pay the exact amount for parts and products you should get an exact part and or product.

[@toysforboysrc]

I can only imagine how many units are produced and sold to retailers.. something is going to slip by, the question is what are the odds and could it be problematic.

[@YURIYSALIY]

Hello, my dear. Cool sharing. Thank you very much. I truly love your channel. I wish you love and a happy life. With love and respect, Yuriy Saliy. @}->>>--

[@stevenfalaig5367]

Lager schaden

[@toysforboysrc]

It seems to be an engineering imbalance. It was brand new out the box but the return went well.

[@toysforboysrc]

Hey guys this is My first time ever purchasing a TP motor so I was excited to see what the hype is all about! But unfortunately mine arrived with a problem and it needs to be replaced. I know there’s a LOT of TP fans out there and I’m very excited to be a part of that trend so will keep you updated with Skyline build as soon as the TP motor situation corrected. Edit: Update 2-26-23 the item was sent back the following day and down time was about 6 days.. So getting to it.., My overall experience with Island Nut Hobby was great! Things happen fast due to the fact they’re located in N.Y. of USA and that they also have a good sized staff! They have a reliable number you can call and they always answer the phones! If you have a technical question, there are at least two mechanics or techs that I know of who can answer those questions. Island Nut Hobby’s staff is also punctual with email replies and communications. Since buying the TP motor from Island Nut Hobby, I have continued shopping with island Nut for other much needed rc parts!

[@reallythough4591]

I dropped a 4400kv in my car, and castle doesn't even come close. Sorry you had an issue, I will be buying more.

[@toysforboysrc]

@@reallythough4591 powerful words from a humble soldier 🫡.. the world need more ppl like you. Thanks for the pep talk., the second one came right away, the box was mangled and had a tire track on it but everything checked out normal no issues at all so I know the other one had to of been a rare instance. I went out again today with the Skyline or “SkyRider” for kicks, but I was able to open it up and at least get full throttle for a second before running out of space… not to spoil the next upload but this was with the mmx6 and the guys at the forum want the raw un-edited TRUTH LOL! Sooo the next video will be a classic and mature video with all the work that was done over the last month. All the parts unboxing and the full 9. So I need experienced feed back and you sound like you’ve had a few TP’s already. What vehicle did you drop the beast into? I have to see that.

[@reallythough4591]

@@toysforboysrc it's in a dr10, and nobody knows yet, so shhh. I'm running the mmx6 as well, for the amps. On 2s it doesn't get warm quickly, and no hole shot will catch you, but you can run up to 7s, though I'd highly suggest adding half a pound or more upfront of the bumper and beefing up shocks if you want to speed run. Mine was undrivable on 3s. I dropped 20mil weight in the rear diff, now she drives mostly straight. Turn down the gain on your steering for smaller movements, especially with a gyro. And no, it's my first tp, but it def won't be my last.

[@reallythough4591]

I hit 66.9 on 2s last weekend, and she was still accelerating. Had to brake, as it was windy, and front tires were off the ground for most of the ride.

[@kizzelgarrett8011]

Sometimes the shims will get bent in manufacturing & will cause this problem the steel is too strong tp has almost the strongest shafts in the business besides Castel & Hobbywing in the terms of aftermarket products etc .I been using tp for a long time it's one of my go to motor because of durability. Love your content brother keep it going much love. Also I have a Rc channel to this channel is old I'm texting from look me up

[@javieracosta6281]

Had same problem only solution was to buy another one

[@toysforboysrc]

Was this a new motor? What was it not replaced or covered?

[@javieracosta6281]

@@toysforboysrc brand new two passes on 6s 4070 2400kv bought from same place. Couldn’t get a hold from tp by any means of communication.

[@toysforboysrc]

@@javieracosta6281 …. Not good at all, you ever bought TP from any other sources like island nut?

[@javieracosta6281]

@@toysforboysrc that’s where I bought it from. Gave me phone and email to reach them never reply so only option was to buy another one

[@toysforboysrc]

@@javieracosta6281 …that’s horrible. Guess the only way is to inspect the hell out of them and decide to return it right away or keep them as is bcs their return policy is a strict 7 days with NO use.

[@kaiarneberg9203]

You can clearly see it yes. Let us know how it ends.

[@toysforboysrc]

Because it was still within the 7 day return mark, they accepted the return and sent out another motor. I will continue making content following the TP motor abs the Skyline build that it’s going into.

[@kaiarneberg9203]

@@toysforboysrc Nice!!

[@benitobento123456789]

Hy TP is a bad 2 pole motor,damage all ESC cost a lot money and bad motor

[@toysforboysrc]

Thanks for sharing..

[@IAMEX314]

Sounds horrible 😕

[@toysforboysrc]

Well Island Hobby is in the U.S and they have a great staff and they covered the shipping for the replacement and shipping was quick so the disappointment didn’t last long 🤓. Plus that’s up to the actual manufacturer’s QC way up in China. I’m just glad I purchased it from Island Hobby, because could you imagine if I had to create a return to China!? Nooo way lol..