Track Day Prep - Project ASS2000 - Bonus Episode

[@franciscocruz6726]

4 years and I still love the Badass2000 saga. I decided to buy an AP1 to accompany my Evo 9 thanx to you guys.

[@SoCalS2000]

Definitely one of my favorite series! I've owned 3 KickASS2k's and this series makes me want to tear one down again and build it from the ground up! Can't wait for the next dopisode!

[@bergi85]

You guys have this smile/smirk when you talk about more mods.....hmmm. Thanks for the bonus episode! I love this series!

[@speedacademy]

bergi85 What can we say, we're suckers for mods! More coming soon but first a track day is in order.

[@bergi85]

I absolutely love this channel! Keep up the good work!

[@julesl4550]

Awesome splitter build and awesome car! Great job guys and I love your vids and projects. Just thought I'd throw this out there for whoever; speeding up air flow under the car doesn't technically create a low pressure area, faster moving air creates high pressure. But obivously a flat undertray is best for air flow and reduces turbulent airflow. The rear diffuser (and the angle of the front splitter) uses the venturi effect. For example, as the gap between the ground and the bottom of the car (diffuser) increases, airflow slows down and creates a lower pressure, sucks the car down. Since I'm kind of on the subject. Common misconception about wings/spoilers. People believe air pushes against the top surface of the wing and that's what creates downforce. What actually happens is due to the cross sectional profile of the aeofoil, airflow moves faster over the top and slower under it. It is the low pressure area under the wing that pulls and creates downforce.

[@NoGunLicense]

So much progress!! Really enjoying this channel guys! Thank you! Appreciate the hard work you guys put in.

[@speedacademy]

NoGunLicense We appreciate the great feedback! Thanks.

[@BrodeyDoverosx]

Black acoustic caulking will do the job for that splitter. Run a small bead (very small, maybe 3mm tall) and let dry to touch. Then do a normal bead and button up the splitter.

[@speedacademy]

Brodey Dover Not a bad suggestion! We may do that next time.

[@TADslaughter]

Love this channel keep up the good work. You guys convinced me, I'm definitely gonna begin taking my ap1 to the track. Can't wait to see how this one performs now with the wing and splitter!

[@speedacademy]

Frosty Awesome! Let us know how it goes. You will really love the car out there, it's arguably one of the most exciting and fun cars we've ever driven at the track.

[@ReeceRamsey]

+1 for that epic time attack garbage can at 16:34. Great video guys!

[@speedacademy]

Reece Ramsey Haha, it's faster than most garbage cans on the block! +10 hp for sticker tuning.

[@hollandreece123]

Speed Academy y u no wide body

[@speedacademy]

Holland Reece Cause $$$

[@hollandreece123]

but it would be soooooooooo sexy if you ever do later on

[@speedacademy]

+Holland Reece We have some surprises in the near future :D

[@itzzToon]

hey, no corner balancing? I think that would really help with the oversteer. I got my ap1 balanced and it made the car feel wayyyy more predictable. Loving the episodes so far guys, cheers from California! :D

[@speedacademy]

itsToon Dave and I talked about this very thing and we've never felt that corner balancing has improved the handling significantly enough that it's worth all the time and effort. In our opinion its good to do but not mandatory, especially when you're not chasing 10ths of a second.

[@klajoye481]

Haha anything to do with ride height is such a pain. Love the progression! Can't wait for the track!

[@speedacademy]

Kyle LaJoye Oh soooo much back and forth tuning. Its a love hate relationship!

[@inuysha360]

Can't wait for the track vid! Great build guys.

[@speedacademy]

inuysha360 Wait till you see the track day episode! :D

[@TheKolya1991]

Can't wait to see this thing hit the track!

[@speedacademy]

Kolya Guy Let us just tell you it's glorious! Wait till you see the video.

[@TheKolya1991]

Awesome! Should be renamed the Kick-ASS2000!

[@f22cap2s2k]

Arrghhh come on guys! Quit dorking with the rake...go 1/4" front rake, and GET A LARGER FRONT BAR! Oversteer GONE! Love yall...keep up the amazing work. Good call on going back to the OEM rear sway. Cant wait for the next vid :)

[@speedacademy]

Brett Smith Front sway bar CHECK! More rake... maybe haha. If we dont go fast at the track then we'll do it! :D

[@f22cap2s2k]

Yeah I recall yall putting the Eibach one on...just hope it's big enough (TWSS!) You might have covered this in a previous video, but have you give any bound/rebound bias to the shocks front to rear? Or you guys waiting on the track results?

[@AznFreak353]

Use shin-etsu grease from honda along the black trim around where the soft top use to be. I had the exact same squeaking and the grease fixed it.

[@speedacademy]

Donald Uchiha Thanks for the tip Donald!

[@mariom9694]

hey guys, the proper grease for the hard top is called shin- etsu grease its sold at most honda dealers. that works best for the hard top. Also considering its a ap1 why havent you guys done a rear bump steer kit? that thing makes it less twitchy,stable during hard turnin and allows the car to rotate MUCH better. Another thing, you should have kept the ride height how it was. that wing is going to give the rear a good amount of squat, not only that it already squats a good amount under acceleration.

[@speedacademy]

+Mario M Yup, we've heard of the grease will try to buy some next time we visit the dealer. We have buddy club extended ball joints in the rear which correct from bump steer. :D

[@claudiodecina2670]

yet another Epic episode, keep up the great work :D

[@speedacademy]

Claudio Decina Thanks! Glad you're liking it.

[@Vikseemungal]

Hey guys I've been following your channel for some time and it happens that I have a similar built s2000 almost the same power mods mine is more street than yours , keep up the good job and can't wait to see some track work.

[@speedacademy]

Vik Seemungal Awesome! Hope you get it out on track! :D

[@oscarmayer736]

would love to see you guys get a new set of wheels and tires on this - I understand these were recommended and didn't quite work out, and the fenders were pulled, but man it would look so much better if they were tightened up

[@speedacademy]

Oscar Mayer The sizes is what most track spec S2000s run so we wouldnt go any smaller. But yes, from an aesthetic standpoint it could use some polishing up. We've got some tricks up our sleeves in the future. :)

[@Emikolaitis]

shin etsu grease, very well known fix that's good for the seals. also you need to custom make a 3.5 or r inch intake your current one will actually choke the engine at high rpms. that exhaust and test pipe aren't the best designs especially the cat. get a real 2.75 or 3 inch test pipe and single exhaust to maximize brrathing. then if yiu want to fork out another 2.5k but can do mild engine work get a standalone like aem infinity 6 and look into cnc speed shop f24 stroker kit. uses a modified k24 crank custom rods and acl bearings. after all that you should be able to get 270whp area. and the 2.5k was the aem and stroke kit combined. it's a great deal. s2ki is your friend it's all been done and researched before one of the most comprehensive and analytical members I've ever encountered. and they aren't rude people.

[@Emikolaitis]

I gave an option didn't tell them what to do. Also they directly said they are enjoying the NA and think they want to stay that way. Lastly any sort of FI ESPECIALLY a turbo creates an extremely high and hard to manage engine coolant and oil temp. Extremely hard to manage. Youll spend over another 5k in trying to keep the engine cool with either of those options. And most superchargers on the s2000 need a lot more love to make over 360hp. And if they can handle mild engine work the total would actually not be 5k. Building your own intake is 200 bucks in supplies. Aem infinity is 1200. The harness is 300. Another 200 for the wifeband. Couple hundred for tuning. And you can get a full exhaust for 800 and 200 bucks for a test pipe. Plus sell the old intake and exhaust and you'll make up the majority of the difference. also the hks supercharger is one of the worst one the market. They don't make massive gains and they are the most expensive. Turbo is going to take an ungodly amount of under hood venting a V mount with as a kit is 3k on it's own and a hell of an oil cooler with ducting. If this wasn't about being a track car I'd say turbo absolutely. But there have been less than a hand full of turbo s2000's that have been able to make it more than a few true hot laps around a track and not start to overheat.

[@Emikolaitis]

You don't understand the s2000 very well. The formula is not that easy. And again the money is how you spend it. If you can do everything yourself it's more like 3k. If you can't then the cost goes up. Any turbo kit after supporting mods is going to be over 7k with tuning. And again it won't stay cool. Rough estimate to run any forced induction on a track and stay cool is going to be well over 10k. It's not all about numbers its also about efficiency and what you are after to achieve. Naturally aspirated isn't the best for hp, but it is best when it comes to the most hp and still being a good track car for the s2000. Again only speaking about this specific car. A supercharger will cost 5k for the kit alone. That's no engine management no additional upgraded to manage heat but it is at least a lot more manageable than a turbo. A good option but more money. I would never suggest a turbo for the track on this car though. A weekend car going for hp and highway pulls then all day long. The stock engine has been well known to handle over 600whp on e85 for many miles. The trans and diff however not so much. if we go with your simple "5k for 50hp" then all I can say is to some that's worth every penny. This isn't a corvette. The s2000 was extremely well engineered from the factory so extracting any more hp form the NA motor requires a lot of work like I mentioned most full bolt on cars with a standalone and tune make only 15hp more peak. That right there is almost 2k. So an additional 1200 bucks for 50hp is a bargain in that perspective. The gains in the mid range though are great and where you'll see the most benefit when comparing stock and tune

[@jdm_jadon]

Do you have racing harness I forgot if you do then you should get a race steering wheel. Also a carbon hood and carbon doors would finish it off. Keep up the great vids can't wait for more mods.

[@speedacademy]

***** We actually quite like the stock S2k steering wheel so no need to change it out. And yes harnesses are installed. We may get some carbon parts in the future if $$$ allows.

[@starbai410]

Heard when the front is lower than rear air escapes faster making it more aerodynamic and effective

[@speedacademy]

touge410 That may be true but in the case of the S2000 having the front slightly higher is a bigger benefit.

[@starbai410]

+Speed Academy ok 🙉

[@Smngorin]

Have you fixed the ABS? I remember last time you where having issues with it. I wonder what the car weighs now.

[@speedacademy]

Sean Neal Yup, the ABS issue turned out to be the sensor not being seated properly. Damn rust causing issues again. We're hoping to weigh it with our friends scales when we borrow em so you may find out soon enough.

[@Bunchofhelmets]

What do you guys do for your everyday jobs? Would love to be in your position of tuning cars like this from a garage but fresh graduate jobs don't allow me to do so, yet.

[@speedacademy]

Daniel P.S This is our everyday job, along with running the Speed Academy website. We also do side jobs with anything media related so websites, photos, design, etc. We've been in the work field for over 15 years and worked many different jobs to get here but if you keep at it and dont give up then we believe anything is possible.

[@Bunchofhelmets]

Would love to be and hopefully will be in your position of working on cars. Would go to say living every car guys dream. Can I send you my guys me C.V? Willing to relocate. :D

[@DigitalArkServices]

loving these episodes. I got one question, whats the square footage of the shop?

[@speedacademy]

727DARKHORSE Good question, it's basically 3 garage bays two cars deep so probably close to 2500 sq feet?

[@mariom9694]

the rear roll center adjuster? that wont be enough to get rid of the ap1 twitchyness. megan racing makes a decent and affordable bump steer kit

[@jameannohere]

ball bearing grease is a bit much. ots petroleum based so it will eat away at the rubber. Also Idk about a petroleum based product on a clearcoat/paintes finish. Will prob eat away at that finish too. Choose something water based next time

[@speedacademy]

jameannohere Will be doing that shorty. Lots of people have commented on using something different. The Vasoline we had at the shop wouldve been a better choice in hindsight.

[@weskopr]

Rubber seals are best lubed with silicone grease. Petroleum products disintegrate the rubber.

[@speedacademy]

***** What's funny is that I thought the exact same thing when I was applying it yet didn't stop...

[@84knocturnal]

***** I second the rubber seal. The foam does a good job but does it trap water allowing fungus to grow?

[@bavva]

did you guys already relocate the rear tabs? and trim the rear bumper edge? Will help with the rubbing

[@speedacademy]

Kpromedia Yup all the relocating and trim has been done, I think we covered it in a previous episode. Still rubs a bit but just on the bumper so it will self clearance. :D

[@ArturoCortez]

Did you all ever go back and replace that unsightly foam seal with something else?

[@coldvaper]

I like the idea of keeping it NA. I really like what you are doing with this car. The bill scares me though lol.

[@speedacademy]

coldvaper It's been scaring everyone! Very few people actually keep tabs on what they are spending to build their cars and after we've kept such good tabs on it we now realize how expensive it can be to build a proper track car.

[@coldvaper]

Yeah thats why I bought a trck car already built last time. Unfortunately it was a spec miata and I am not a miata fan...

[@speedacademy]

coldvaper How come? We hear they are super fun cars to drive.

[@coldvaper]

I guess I am comparing it to my Ae86. The Ae86 has lower limits as it should since its from the 80s but the Ae86 is more communicative and always tells me I can do it where as the miata is more like I should be able to if that makes sense. The Ae86 thrilled me even when it was stock the miata never really thrilled me it was just something to drive. I encourage you guys to try one out for yourselves though lots of people love them.

[@speedacademy]

+coldvaper They are both great cars, we've driven all generations of Miatas, including the new one and love them all! We've even considered one as a project car.

[@Club-Version]

Did you guys fix the ABS issues it sounded like you guys just need to replace the abs sensors, my s2k had the same issue.

[@speedacademy]

Jose Ferrer Yeah, the ABS issue was a result of one of the sensors not being seated properly in its mounting spot. Too much rust build up so after cleaning it up and putting the sensor back it, ABS is functional again!

[@fox10169]

no! ball bearing grease will eat away at the rubber

[@speedacademy]

Anthony Mense You're right, we figured that out AFTER we applied it and wondered hmm that may not have been the best stuff to use. Ah well, the rubber seal is cheap.

[@fox10169]

Speed Academy haha ! Yeah its always after you do things you ralise it may not have been a good idea. you could try to use that foam you used for the splitter instead of the rubber? Maybe that would also help cut down on the noise

[@GrantCulham]

Speed Academy Shinetsu silicone grease! OEM part # 087989013

[@speedacademy]

Grant Culham Thanks Grant! Going to pick some up!

[@altjacobs]

Grant Culham woah its grantc from WSC

[@toddxhiggins]

Easier option with the hardtop squeak is to just apply some felt to the black rubber trim on the actual car. Stops the hardtop rubbing on it. Did it to mine and zero squeaks for 3 months now (Y)

[@speedacademy]

Todd Higgins Oh really! Good to know. That could be a more permanent solution to the lube.

[@toddxhiggins]

yeah the grease or lube option works but eventually you have to reapply. the felt on the black moulding is a more permanent solution like you said. Theres guys on s2ki who have used the felt method and 2 years later still have no issues. You only have to apply maybe 20cms each side on the moulding (just to the point where the hardtop starts tapering in)

[@speedacademy]

Todd Higgins If that's it then we'll def give it a go. Thanks.

[@gabrieldalcomune3044]

Will you guys be removing rear sway bar? It's a pretty popular thing on s2ki lol.

[@speedacademy]

Gabriel Dalcomune Naaaa, just switched back to the stock one since we like that combo better.

[@gabrieldalcomune3044]

How'd it feel without one?

[@speedacademy]

Gabriel Dalcomune We havent run the car without one but I've never been a fan of running without a rear sway bar, I find it can cause issues with LSDs and tires lifting. The Eibach front sway bar and stock rear sway bar are pretty awesome combo though. You'll find out just how good in our next video!

[@gabrieldalcomune3044]

Alright sweet, can't wait!

[@18iser]

3.2 degrees camber is a bit to much I think that might be part of your problem there. I would recommend getting less rear camber because I am guessing the rear tires just do not have a full contact patch right now.

[@speedacademy]

18iser We actually disagree, in a corner it'll give us better contact patch and settle the rear end down.

[@18iser]

There is something called slip angle tough and nobody that does track racing actually has that much rear camber compared to front. And your rear will still gain a lot of camber while squatting down compared to the front. So I would only assume this would make the car feel very unbalanced.

[@speedacademy]

18iser Looks like you'll have to wait and see if our track results prove whether our setup worked or not.

[@Hobogoku]

What are the rims that you guys are using again? I really like the look!

[@speedacademy]

Hobogoku1 17x9.5 Gram lights 57 Extreme. You can get all the details in a previous episode. :)

[@Hobogoku]

Speed Academy Awesome! Thanks! :D

[@spacewizard69r96]

What camber tool was used in this video?

[@damiandelaguardia8212]

Why don't you guys install an after market steering wheel?

[@speedacademy]

Damian de la guardia No need for it. We love the feel of the factory wheel.

[@fredpinczuk7352]

any type of silicone lubricant vs oil base grease. That stuff will eat rubber seals.

[@Kakeyoro]

Guys guys... The front carbon fiber sheet from "C3 composites"? DO WANT! I plan to do a little custom work myself to eliminate turbulence. Can you provide a link to their site? Would like to see what they offer. ALSO, what size thickness sheet did you purchase?

[@speedacademy]

***** The reason why we haven't provided a link to the site is because Kevin doesn't have one but you can contact him here: facebook.com/kevin.stittle and he can help you out with the details. We used a 3/4-inch foam core center.

[@Kakeyoro]

Speed Academy Holy crap, it's on. I'll have to hit him up later. Thanks a lot!

[@Kevinpark46]

You should do a final drive. Change the stock 4.1 to a 4.7 final drive. Much much faster acceleration and feels way more aggressive

[@speedacademy]

Kevin Park We've considered it but the thing already revs high on the highway. My commute is almost an hour one way to the shop so until the car becomes a full track car then the stock final drive will stay.

[@Kevinpark46]

***** yes I have watched every single ass2000 ep from the very beginning. I have a s2000 myself with a final drive of 4.4. And have friends with 4.7 final drive which really gives the car that extra acceleration. Feels like a different animal

[@Kevinpark46]

Speed Academy that's fair enough!! Just telling you is amazing! S2000 has one of the best track platforms

[@speedacademy]

Kevin Park When it's track car spec you know we'll get it!

[@felixarbable]

wont reverse rake affect aero susbstantially? that splitter looks very high

[@speedacademy]

felix pinto No, not until you get into substantial amounts of reverse rake. The splitter is about perfect height relative to the car's ride height. If this were a track only race car then we'd lower it a bit but this sucker has to clear road hazards!

[@Super_64]

how accurate is the fender height measurement with the fenders being rolled?

[@speedacademy]

honhon05 If you notice, Dave actually measure to where he thinks the stock fender line would be so we're within a few millimeters on accuracy. Or at least we think we are.

[@jorges2000]

squeak or a creek? Sounds like the questions I ask customers when they bring in cars for warranty work : ) ....... This s2k gets better

[@speedacademy]

jorges2000 Haha, I can only imagine the answers you get!

[@subislide9884]

jorges2000 warranty denied

[@mexicalpango]

You guys are going to wrap the car?

[@speedacademy]

Vicente lerdo Maybe, or maybe paint it. For now it will stay ASS like. :)

[@TheZohanLohan]

What were the alignment tools you guys used?

[@speedacademy]

ZohanLohan Longacre toe plates and camber gauge

[@TheZohanLohan]

Speed Academy thanks!

[@x240drifterxx2]

Ohhh look at DAT Nissan at 11:11

[@haseebchowdhury4307]

+xyn helgens Loomynarty Konfarmed!!!

[@TheActionistheJuice]

Talk about the fairlady Z!!!!

[@Emikolaitis]

agreed, we at least need to know what is the deal with the s30.

[@speedacademy]

Eric Mikolaitis It's our buddy Kens car and he's storing it at the shop. Theres a video coming soon to talk about it.

[@KoiTimeUSA]

assstrooo gel... hahha... get her done peter.. :)

[@woofer2121]

arnt the front wheelwells larger?

[@speedacademy]

Edward Grindstaff No this is a square setup. 255/40R17

[@woofer2121]

most cars have a larger wheelwell in the front because turning.

[@speedacademy]

Edward Grindstaff OHH sorry I misread that. Yes the fronts have larger wheel wells but the height from the ground is almost always the same front and back which we've found with a lot of the cars we've aligned.

[@trentmeyer23]

Paint or colour the foam black.

[@speedacademy]

trentmeyer23 Going to replace it with black foam eventually.

[@trentmeyer23]

Or that. :P

[@leefhead1]

bearing grease eats rubber. what you wanted to use is brake caliper grease. looking good otherwise guys.

[@speedacademy]

Lee Forget Yeah, we've heard its not good. Will switch it out next time it's off.

[@Liviu886]

How can I get in touch with you guys? I've tried to send an email but cannot send it as you've got a weird email address. Cheers

[@speedacademy]

l c [e-mail] is the best email to reach me at.

[@Liviu886]

ive tried that and [e-mail] and an error message saying invalid address pops up. its really weird that this is obviously happening to me. ill try sending it from my computer instead of my iphone. thank you for replying. I love your show and hurry up already I am dying to see the ASS 2000 at the track. LOL

[@speedacademy]

l c That could be because you have an old version of iOS and it doesn't recognize any email with the .com??? Anyways, let me now if it works.

[@yeaiAm97]

how long does the lube last?

[@speedacademy]

+Edris A We havent had squeaking again and it's been over 3 months. So far so good.

[@yeaiAm97]

Oh okay when are you guys going to make more videos on honda s2000 Speed Academy​

[@BeJosephThis]

Time for wide body fenders 😉

[@speedacademy]

***** We maaaaay have ordered a set. :)

[@precisionhonda4384]

i think i will buy an s2000 as my first car in a year, so im gonna re watch some of these vids and use them to mod my s2000 :)

[@speedacademy]

Chris Strzelczyk Do it... DOOOOOOOO IT! You'll love the car, we certainly do!

[@precisionhonda4384]

+Speed Academy haha alright i will :) hopefully mine comes out as well as yours did!

[@AutodromoF1]

No such thing as suck. The car is being pushed down by higher air pressure above the splitter.

[@that.white.80]

ill bet if u just take a little black paint to that front seal on the lip youll never see it

[@speedacademy]

Benjamin Ellsworth But then theres too much masking to do and we're lazy haha.

[@kevinkwon4087]

lube thats the answer LUBE!!!

[@333KINGPIN33]

Is this your guys full time jobs? Who funds all of this?

[@speedacademy]

Dany Yup! We're trying to make a go of it so project partners help pay the bills and the rest is out of pocket, like most small businesses starting up.

[@mornhaven8602]

Rub my rear!

[@woofer2121]

silicon oil

[@Torquetwospec]

needs canarrds

[@madlinx101]

You guys have a 240Z in the background and worrying about the ride height in the ASS2000.... SRSLY ITS BLASPHEMY GUYS TO HAVE ONE OF THE MOST EPIC CARS OF RACING ( Street or Track) in your arsenal and not have of full presentation on it!

[@RichardLangis]

Imperial measurements? For SHAME!

[@slep5039]

1 downvote!

[@Super_64]

how accurate is the fender height measurement with the fenders being rolled?

[@speedacademydave]

The rear lip profile hasn't really changed since we did a mild pull back there, but the fronts are pulled enough that I had to guesstimate by taking a 1/4" out of the total measurement. Our next video is at the track so you'll see soon how it worked out.

[@wholetur4947]

this! In this situation its better to use the rails as an indicator