Track Test: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - Camaro, Redefined

[@ITRIEDEL]

I love motorweek. It's the only car channel that hasn't changed since its early years.

[@cpufreak101]

Definitely evident by watching their retro reviews and seeing just how it's literally the same lol

[@moparlover1968rr]

This guy never gets old to listen too

[@matrox]

Chevy hit it out the park with the 6th Gen Camaro.

[@dflet03]

America is making some serious performance machines

[@Jwdude123]

dflet03 Trump!

[@OscarMaris]

Don't worry, not even trump could fuck up GM now. They are on a roll.

[@djs3484]

You idiot liberals must put your opinions, that nobody gives a crap about, into things we hope can be free of liberal bullshit and be just about the car. Unfreakin believable.

[@barrydraper]

I bought the ZL1 NEW in 2017 (employee discount) and sold it 1 year later. Didn't lose a cent. It's truly amazing, even better than this quick review. This is no longer "pony car" territory. It's true sports car, bordering on supercar performance. My only complaint was the bolstering of the Recaro seats was way too tight for my (um) frame. ;-)

[@ravenstylea2]

64k for a supercar slayer. Love it.

[@isitfast2067]

650hp Camaro that handles like an exotic ..do I have to say more?

[@Jesusprayerwarriorbw]

Yes please in Blue

[@Len1977gt]

No you don't, its dying out cuz no one wants to buy it

[@caloFi]

yeah u forgot to say the hellcat is better

[@michaelbarry8373]

@@caloFi The Hellcat on that track? It would see more grass than asphalt, maybe tip over.

[@joeindy942]

@@caloFithe Hellcat has more HP by about 100, yet it’s slower because it weights so much more than the Z.

[@hmackprotection1]

I know the 10spd auto is amazing, but I'd still take the 6spd Manual

[@erichaley4485]

H Mack same here.

[@hmackprotection1]

Eric Haley, right on bro

[@brianrichner975]

H Mack 20 years ago I would agree ... now this old guy would be working those paddles !

[@bobdavis95]

all good, I understand that you an accept the auto is quicker. Let me guess... you think the manual is more fun?

[@hmackprotection1]

Bob Davis, more involving..I'm not one of those "real men drive Manual" guys..they're clowns. I've had both Automatic, & manual performance car, & like all of them, but in this Gen6 ZL1, & or the Gen6 SS 1LE, I'd prefer a Manual

[@robcrossan6274]

Lol came from the 80s z28 vs 5.0 motorweek video. What a change. Amazing modern muscle today.

[@goblinzl1]

they actually got a respectable 1/4 out of this car. makes me want to go drive my zl1 like that.

[@zachg9065]

At 3:31 you can see the PTM lock up the left front trying to keep the car going in it's intended direction.

[@erichaley4485]

I want this car. but I'm gonna hold off until the following year. the auto seems like the way to go with near 200 mph top speed,but I'm an old school manual transmission person. they seem to be somewhat slower than the automatic on the top end,but I'm not planning on going 200 mph anywhere so the stick is what I'm gonna get.

[@seansacustics]

I'd definitely take one over a helcat. It's engineered so much better

[@TheOutty500]

You're getting a lot of car for 63 grand.

[@quentin3330]

TheOutty500 very true.

[@Len1977gt]

You are gettig alot of junk for 63 grand

[@Innvestor]

The Torque is 650 as well...!

[@johndessire399]

Shyam Y The torque is 650 at 3600 thousand rpm. The lt4 is a monster.

[@hmackprotection1]

Shyam Y, 3910lbs (still lighter than the 4200lb Gen5 ZL1), but yes the Torque is immense

[@VaunShiz]

yet...its as fast as a E class amg.....

[@MaxxedOutTV]

thats what i thought, he said 640 lol....

[@LS1LT1]

And a full $40k+ cheaper too. ;-)

[@realtalk4689]

That car is really growing on me but I need a manual (stick shift not paddle) review to compare it to the GT350R and GT500. Right now I'm leaning towards the upcoming 500 or R. Performances are similar enough for me not to be swayed one way or another so its about feel (stick shift), size and overall looks. I don't see the need for a large car I don't intend on having more than one occasional passenger.

[@ridgeline006]

GT350R is a great car so is ZL1 America Muscle these car trounce the BMW and LEXUS for way less money in a straight line and around the curve im proud

[@damaster692]

Glad to see +MotorWeek still going . since I was a kid this guy has been here narrating

[@LS1LT1]

Yup, I remember this show all the way back to the early '80s. :-)

[@phoenix6064]

@3:45 you can see the stability control lock up the front wheel to save the skid.

[@occckid123]

yea u can see it other times also

[@robertpoudrette3703]

This is a good example of what engineers can do when let go and do their best. I drive a 13 SS 1LE and that car is just beautiful to drive! The handling is great, grip is unbelieveable and while it is firm, the suspension doesn't beat you up while driving normally (on the road...). Being a 1LE, it is a manual and it actually shifts like a dream, clutch action is just slightly firmer than the one in my Civic and the shifter works better and is also more precise in the Camaro too, funny eh? I was skeptical at first and was delightfully surprised with my test drive. I can only imagine how these 6th gen cars drive! That being said, if you're looking for a manual car, go for it, it's great fun! I have yet to drive one of these 10 speed cars with the paddle shifters, they also look like fun. You guys drive your Camaros until the wheels falll off, when they do, just bolt them back on and drive some more!

[@butterflies9383]

I have got to get one of these!!!!

[@haroldmoye8786]

I wish I had the wherewithal to buy a zl1 when hertz was fire selling them off back in the summer of 2020!

[@Benscars]

This is truly an incredible car

[@Benscars]

My brother used to have one

[@jasons2562]

Anyone who doesn't love both this and the GT350-R needs to get educated. You're not a true car enthusiast

[@tjfreak]

That grill ruins the whole fucking thing..educated ? I guess you are & you do the educating ? gtfooh..lol

[@liammeigs4815]

Shelbys mustang isnt a stock technically anyway, its like saying the ZL1 Exorcist is a Cannon stock model. These cars are completely different

[@coureurdebois]

wow, to think this beat the track focused GT350R for less money and it comes fully loaded! just think the ZL1 1LE just came out to which is even faster, nice!

[@al151]

Justin Bouche gt350 is considered old news now but it is still limited production and will hold its value more than the ZL1. ZL1 is a budget all around beast and there is no competition right now for the performance per price standpoint! Chevy did well with this generation.

[@coureurdebois]

How is it old news when the r version only set all those lap times around 1 year ago.

[@JustinPR612]

Justin Bouche still take a gt350r anyday... I just love that flat crank V8 a lot more and I feel like the GT500 is going to be even better

[@coureurdebois]

ok? either way the GT500 will remain a drag racer as per Shelby's wishes. so like the last gen GT500 VS the ZL1 the ZL1 will remain the more sophisticated, better handling, more dynamic sports car while the GT500 will simply be another 1 dimensional straight line car.

[@JustinPR612]

Are all Justin's assholes or what?? Lol

[@BMWBurnoutM3]

I'm assuming that's the traction management locking the front wheels when the car oversteers

[@IAMMRPATRICKBORNAGAIN]

Probably so. The driver looked to be deliberately over driving the corners.

[@walterbrob]

Still looks like an old Lumina from the rear

[@mlk4life]

performance data recorder?? thats a nice feature..

[@jbalogh01]

Still want a IROC to rock my mullett in.

[@billdavidson9700]

Enough with the "mullet" references

[@quentin3330]

Bill Davidson Relax Joe Dirt.

[@BandanazX]

Can't wait for the ZL1 1LE review.

[@dporrasxtremeLS3]

Thanks for the clear drift angles going straight. I always say go left, go right, go racing! I am a follower since the very beginning of Motor Week!

[@htsawyers]

Amazing Car.

[@danziger69]

Such an underrated car. Even in 2024 this car is a beast. Hopefully, prices drop a little bit, so I can put one next to my Z06.

[@jamesdharrington8577]

if they want to put a grill that BIG on a Camaro ,they should have gone super retro with a BIG grill on a spilt nose type of look

[@davidenobile426]

Love this Camaro. A pony car that can make most sports car eat dust

[@thotpatrol3409]

650!

[@ztwntyn8]

When I imagine it I feel like I’d have a hard time with auto rev matching. I guess I’d get used to it quickly but seems just not in my nature

[@felixalvinreyes9846]

Hey thanks that you feature i ha e a miniature of that hotwheels wish jf they upgraded the engine demising the obsolete 2 valves per xylinder to 4 valves perxlyinder

[@_TheWerewolf]

Damn GM is on a roll with their performance cars.

[@allensaunders449]

this is a world class sports car no longer a muscle car stupid of GM to go for cheap paddle shifters why

[@BRIANBOBCHAPMAN]

COOL Track Test: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - Camaro, Redefined

[@flawns]

This is the first car review this guy has done that the video quality does not look like from the 90s

[@cpufreak101]

watching too many retro reviews? lol

[@arion45]

That was exotic numbers a few years ago.

[@Arthagnou]

how is it possible that this show is still on? Hello 1982

[@josiahthibodeaux]

Plastic paddles?!?! You have to scratch your head at some of the things car manufacturers do. Amazing car!

[@shitstain7137]

i bet they sell aluminum covers on ebay

[@crisantorivera14]

Not Camaro fan until ZL1 came out,now I'm a fan of Camaro.

[@larrycalloway1724]

Hey Guys I'm enjoying this Reviews on this car ! 👍🏽

[@BrianBranch1968]

Even if Ford develops a 700+ hp monster, what platform will they use ? The reason the ZL1 outperformed the Corvette Grand Sport is because of the Alpha chassis and that magna-ride suspension, something the current Mustang can’t come close to matching unless they’ve developed a new chassis or are borrowing one from a previous model.

[@danielallocca7770]

Nice video - seems like you guys stepped up the video quality /production value big time. Nicely done...

[@ODER66MIKE]

i came for a blue camaro ... u guys jibbed me

[@HunterSNK]

This car is absolutely perfect

[@p9r4ex8dyk]

"Make Camaro Great Again" - Donald Trump

[@K5_RC]

Camarica

[@timb3741]

I just love the way u lay words in a massive great representation

[@Gooddog1]

Question on the auto, torn between the the 10 speed and 6. I know the benefits of quick shift no missing gears ect. What are your RPM's at around 70 to 90 mph. If you know the answer to that on on the manual while in 6th gear that what be great. Trying to figure out long distance hwy travel and rpm's. Thanks I would like to get one by the end of the year.

[@duesing6]

Whats a Ford gt500? I seamed to have forgoten what it was? LOL

[@tayl0rd553]

You'll be reminded soon enough! ;)

[@VaunShiz]

you forgot because its not even out... fail

[@duesing6]

Your right Ford is a copier not the inyvater, they had to see what Chevy was gonna do first. But wait! Chevy has already announced the ZL1-1LE that is already faster on a track then this car without even having to up the horsepower, when does it end Ford will have to skip over 2 whole years to catch up meanwhile Chevy owners are driving around.

[@arkhsm]

And Ford will sell more GT 500s, with a car that appeals to more Americans, due to fitting between it's 2 rivals !!

[@jasonmeldrum7686]

duesing6 LOL what rock have you lived under the last 10 years ?!! "Ford waits, copies, is a follower" again lol. How much was Ford following GM when GM wasn't even producing the Camaro lol ?.... Mustang production continued on. You forget about the GT500 ? GM had nothing. You forget about the GT350 ? out before this, naturally aspirated and not only hangs with it but have seen both the GT350 and GT350R beat it. Ford ain't following GM with the new GT500, this is a car Ford has already been producing and only finalizing production on the next version of it. Ford still had this current Camaro beat half a decade ago with power and still does ! What about the Raptor ? GM never has and still has nothing to compete with it. You're an idiot if you actually believe what you stated and think Ford follows everything GM does !

[@westy44cal]

11.5 at 127 was pretty surprising to me. I figured 120-122 max but I guess that 10spd is nasty. Hellcat better look at anything below 125.

[@renntech44]

Take my money

[@Desstrik]

Great car!

[@matrox]

They couldn't find a manual? They know most will be buying this in manual.

[@SBha30]

Holy sh*&t -- I am going to buy this car

[@GarthLovesTRAVEL]

The best review of the Campari I have ever heard or watched. I am not a fan of the corvette but this review has sold me.

[@bbrom333]

Holy mid 90's Consumer Reports video!

[@3rdGenGuy]

I like how the ZL1 is better engineered than the Z06. 11 heat exchangers vs the Z06's 2

[@jeffwill4923]

The 2017 Z06 system did have a upgrade.

[@3rdGenGuy]

umm it still has 1 blower heat exchanger same front radiator just a TINY 2nd engine radiator under the grill for 7 speed models. it still overheats after heavy traCK USE

[@still2fast]

Great review.. I love mine!

[@chasevineland1508]

$63K wow! Super mega bargain and it's great looking. As a Porsche and Mercedes owner, sometimes I crave having a badass street car that just does two things - turn heads and burns rubber. Good job USA. Finally got the bean counters on the track.

[@rickjames6647]

If I competed in a professional race circuit, I'll take the automatic and let the computer do the shifting. If I were buying this car to have fun, I'll take a manual.

[@Knight23able]

Chevy and Ford are over here competing for best all around track car. Then there's dodger whose like, we can burn through tires and a straight line

[@robj2704]

Yeah. GM has definitely improved the transmission shifting for a more positive feel. Just a couple years ago even the ZR-1 Corvette still had a kind of spongy-feeling shift under hard acceleration.

[@greenfaction4]

about 2 tens faster then the supercharged pony... not bad

[@tevinhoward4419]

It is my favorite car.

[@bigbluezo6]

got to get this CAR

[@Jimbob-zn6bl]

BOWTIE!!😡🚘

[@sanosuke2999]

They really need to stop calling these cars, "Muscle Cars". With all the tech, engineering, and development time behind these cars they are Sports Car or Track Cars. Wish they would shut up with that muscle car garbage. These cars can brake and corner just as well as they can accelerate.

[@cpufreak101]

It's because the Camaro originally came out as a pony/muscle car, so as a result, that's kind of what it will always be seen as, this is simply a "heavily track focused muscle car"

[@sanosuke2999]

I totally agree with that point, but it just feels like journalistic laziness. For example the Mitsubishi Eclipse is now a cross over. Things change and get re-branded. We have actual muscle cars, that fit the definition perfectly like the Hell Cats.

[@cpufreak101]

sanosuke2999 that is true, though I suppose probably just since the SS is still more of just a muscle car than track monster like these higher end camaro's

[@mukio900]

Beautiful car

[@kingrandor7272]

So the hellcat redeye is doing 0-60 in 3.3 and the zl1 does it in 3.5 plus the redeye has over 100 more hp so I'll take the zl1 even tho im a vette guy through and through

[@k.tucker2011]

Great car. It keeps getting better

[@dreray4077]

...DO thse guys no its not 1997 anymore? Thats exactly what this review sounds like.

[@richardmiller6422]

To bad it doesn't have side windows that you can actually see out of instead of the ridiculously high belt line👎

[@racer774]

For all of the people THINKING the 6-speed manual is faster than the 10-speed auto during Motor Trend's Willow Springs testing, Randy RE-TESTED the automatic because it had too much air pressure in the front tires. The 10-speed automatic went more than 6/10s of a second quicker than the 6-speed. Read the last two paragraphs at the bottom of the article. www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrolet/camaro/2017/2017-chevrolet-camaro-zl1-first-test-brute-squad-goals/ I prefer the 6-speed myself but it IS in fact slower than the automatic, just like all other similar cars tested with both manual and automatics of the modern era.

[@the_track_enthusiast]

thanks for sharing that man !!

[@24theMoney]

And just like that, the Camaro is no more. 2024.

[@tedschmitt178]

And GM is making the stupid decision to turn the Camaro into an EV.

[@_baller]

I wonder what it would be like to row 10 gears

[@FishFind3000]

Why the hell are the front wheels locking up?

[@MrTravisjl]

FishFind3000 it's all the traction control nannies that they left on. If the car feels it's about to go into a uncontrolled skid it decides which tire to apply breaks to bring it back in line. Most professionals turn that stuff off in these tutorials. Apparently not for this one.

[@bobdavis95]

waiting for the manual fan boys to reply.....

[@dshort8686]

This is a grand tourer, an affordable v12 vantage

[@tblack21]

What is that front tire doing in a drift. That looks concerning

[@Confidential619]

I was gonna search this but it was already on my suggestions. They already know me haha...

[@JoeBugatti509]

Beautiful car!

[@ParissaKhoury]

Motorweek is the best car channel !!!!!

[@timsgta]

How is 650hp not that nasty?!? @ 1:25 mark...

[@mikealanzo]

why can't this guy talk normal?!?!?!

[@edcfyau]

love the car, but can't afford one

[@BIGGIEDEVIL]

That price is hard to beat for how much HP and performance you get

[@VaunShiz]

I think GM forgot some people sit inside these cars.. and please youtube army, 99% of these will never see a track so the inerior does matter... the interior looks like the base car and if you get the auto... those pathetic paddles make the car look and feel cheap when you just spent 63k+ on it

[@texZR2]

99%... That's funny, I will take the under. I would bet far more Mercedes AMG's fail to see a track than ZL1's as a percentage.

[@meedi1]

Buyer beware! I bought a new camaro ZL1 earlier this year (March 2017). At a sticker price of almost $70k, it had every option checked off. The car drove great over the first month of ownership. It has been a train wreck ever since. With less than 1700 miles, the engine had to be replaced due to a valve head that broke off the stem in the engine. Since the replacement, I have been to the dealership at least 10 different times for various issues (coolant leaks, audio not coming on, alignment issues etc). Over the 9 months of ownership, it has been at the dealer over 60+ days. I have asked for a replacement and had to go so far as to file a BBB claim to get GM's attention. Still nothing. My first GM purchase and it will likely be my last if this situation is not resolved.

[@ulrek54321]

That sucks ass, haven't had that problem in mine

[@soulsnatcher5408]

I feel bad for those brakes let the gas do the work.

[@javarithms]

This is a great time for American sports cars!!

[@zenjitsuman]

I have one problem with this video, they must have left the LSD in off, and screwed around with the modes to get this car to slide all over the track. With those huge supercar tires, its bullshit that I don't see in any other video. Either that or the driver is incompetent

[@hotrod3395]

He even mentions in the narration how hard they had to work to get the rear to break free. It's fun to drive like this; they're reviewing a muscle car, not trying to set a new track record.

[@akrocuba]

SUPER CAR FOR LESS MONEY 👍👍👍👍👍