Track Test: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - Camaro, Redefined

[@ITRIEDEL]

I love motorweek. It's the only car channel that hasn't changed since its early years.

[@cpufreak101]

Definitely evident by watching their retro reviews and seeing just how it's literally the same lol

[@moparlover1968rr]

This guy never gets old to listen too

[@matrox]

Chevy hit it out the park with the 6th Gen Camaro.

[@barrydraper]

I bought the ZL1 NEW in 2017 (employee discount) and sold it 1 year later. Didn't lose a cent. It's truly amazing, even better than this quick review. This is no longer "pony car" territory. It's true sports car, bordering on supercar performance. My only complaint was the bolstering of the Recaro seats was way too tight for my (um) frame. ;-)

[@dflet03]

America is making some serious performance machines

[@Jwdude123]

dflet03 Trump!

[@OscarMaris]

Don't worry, not even trump could fuck up GM now. They are on a roll.

[@djs3484]

You idiot liberals must put your opinions, that nobody gives a crap about, into things we hope can be free of liberal bullshit and be just about the car. Unfreakin believable.

[@isitfast2067]

650hp Camaro that handles like an exotic ..do I have to say more?

[@Jesusprayerwarriorbw]

Yes please in Blue

[@Len1977gt]

No you don't, its dying out cuz no one wants to buy it

[@caloFi]

yeah u forgot to say the hellcat is better

[@michaelbarry8373]

@@caloFi The Hellcat on that track? It would see more grass than asphalt, maybe tip over.

[@joeindy942]

@@caloFithe Hellcat has more HP by about 100, yet it’s slower because it weights so much more than the Z.

[@robcrossan6274]

Lol came from the 80s z28 vs 5.0 motorweek video. What a change. Amazing modern muscle today.

[@zachg9065]

At 3:31 you can see the PTM lock up the left front trying to keep the car going in it's intended direction.

[@dporrasxtremeLS3]

Thanks for the clear drift angles going straight. I always say go left, go right, go racing! I am a follower since the very beginning of Motor Week!

[@ravenstylea2]

64k for a supercar slayer. Love it.

[@flawns]

This is the first car review this guy has done that the video quality does not look like from the 90s

[@cpufreak101]

watching too many retro reviews? lol

[@robertpoudrette3703]

This is a good example of what engineers can do when let go and do their best. I drive a 13 SS 1LE and that car is just beautiful to drive! The handling is great, grip is unbelieveable and while it is firm, the suspension doesn't beat you up while driving normally (on the road...). Being a 1LE, it is a manual and it actually shifts like a dream, clutch action is just slightly firmer than the one in my Civic and the shifter works better and is also more precise in the Camaro too, funny eh? I was skeptical at first and was delightfully surprised with my test drive. I can only imagine how these 6th gen cars drive! That being said, if you're looking for a manual car, go for it, it's great fun! I have yet to drive one of these 10 speed cars with the paddle shifters, they also look like fun. You guys drive your Camaros until the wheels falll off, when they do, just bolt them back on and drive some more!

[@goblinzl1]

they actually got a respectable 1/4 out of this car. makes me want to go drive my zl1 like that.

[@hmackprotection1]

I know the 10spd auto is amazing, but I'd still take the 6spd Manual

[@erichaley4485]

H Mack same here.

[@hmackprotection1]

Eric Haley, right on bro

[@brianrichner975]

H Mack 20 years ago I would agree ... now this old guy would be working those paddles !

[@bobdavis95]

all good, I understand that you an accept the auto is quicker. Let me guess... you think the manual is more fun?

[@hmackprotection1]

Bob Davis, more involving..I'm not one of those "real men drive Manual" guys..they're clowns. I've had both Automatic, & manual performance car, & like all of them, but in this Gen6 ZL1, & or the Gen6 SS 1LE, I'd prefer a Manual

[@phoenix6064]

@3:45 you can see the stability control lock up the front wheel to save the skid.

[@occckid123]

yea u can see it other times also

[@danziger69]

Such an underrated car. Even in 2024 this car is a beast. Hopefully, prices drop a little bit, so I can put one next to my Z06.

[@Innvestor]

The Torque is 650 as well...!

[@johndessire399]

Shyam Y The torque is 650 at 3600 thousand rpm. The lt4 is a monster.

[@hmackprotection1]

Shyam Y, 3910lbs (still lighter than the 4200lb Gen5 ZL1), but yes the Torque is immense

[@VaunShiz]

yet...its as fast as a E class amg.....

[@MaxxedOutTV]

thats what i thought, he said 640 lol....

[@LS1LT1]

And a full $40k+ cheaper too. ;-)

[@Benscars]

This is truly an incredible car

[@Benscars]

My brother used to have one

[@BandanazX]

Can't wait for the ZL1 1LE review.

[@mlk4life]

performance data recorder?? thats a nice feature..

[@danielallocca7770]

Nice video - seems like you guys stepped up the video quality /production value big time. Nicely done...

[@BMWBurnoutM3]

I'm assuming that's the traction management locking the front wheels when the car oversteers

[@IAMMRPATRICKBORNAGAIN]

Probably so. The driver looked to be deliberately over driving the corners.

[@GarthLovesTRAVEL]

The best review of the Campari I have ever heard or watched. I am not a fan of the corvette but this review has sold me.

[@timb3741]

I just love the way u lay words in a massive great representation

[@felixalvinreyes9846]

Hey thanks that you feature i ha e a miniature of that hotwheels wish jf they upgraded the engine demising the obsolete 2 valves per xylinder to 4 valves perxlyinder

[@HunterSNK]

This car is absolutely perfect

[@butterflies9383]

I have got to get one of these!!!!

[@arion45]

That was exotic numbers a few years ago.

[@_TheWerewolf]

Damn GM is on a roll with their performance cars.

[@ridgeline006]

GT350R is a great car so is ZL1 America Muscle these car trounce the BMW and LEXUS for way less money in a straight line and around the curve im proud

[@ztwntyn8]

When I imagine it I feel like I’d have a hard time with auto rev matching. I guess I’d get used to it quickly but seems just not in my nature

[@realtalk4689]

That car is really growing on me but I need a manual (stick shift not paddle) review to compare it to the GT350R and GT500. Right now I'm leaning towards the upcoming 500 or R. Performances are similar enough for me not to be swayed one way or another so its about feel (stick shift), size and overall looks. I don't see the need for a large car I don't intend on having more than one occasional passenger.

[@bigbluezo6]

got to get this CAR

[@crisantorivera14]

Not Camaro fan until ZL1 came out,now I'm a fan of Camaro.

[@haroldmoye8786]

I wish I had the wherewithal to buy a zl1 when hertz was fire selling them off back in the summer of 2020!

[@Arthagnou]

how is it possible that this show is still on? Hello 1982

[@robj2704]

Yeah. GM has definitely improved the transmission shifting for a more positive feel. Just a couple years ago even the ZR-1 Corvette still had a kind of spongy-feeling shift under hard acceleration.

[@davidenobile426]

Love this Camaro. A pony car that can make most sports car eat dust

[@k.tucker2011]

Great car. It keeps getting better

[@coureurdebois]

wow, to think this beat the track focused GT350R for less money and it comes fully loaded! just think the ZL1 1LE just came out to which is even faster, nice!

[@al151]

Justin Bouche gt350 is considered old news now but it is still limited production and will hold its value more than the ZL1. ZL1 is a budget all around beast and there is no competition right now for the performance per price standpoint! Chevy did well with this generation.

[@coureurdebois]

How is it old news when the r version only set all those lap times around 1 year ago.

[@JustinPR612]

Justin Bouche still take a gt350r anyday... I just love that flat crank V8 a lot more and I feel like the GT500 is going to be even better

[@coureurdebois]

ok? either way the GT500 will remain a drag racer as per Shelby's wishes. so like the last gen GT500 VS the ZL1 the ZL1 will remain the more sophisticated, better handling, more dynamic sports car while the GT500 will simply be another 1 dimensional straight line car.

[@JustinPR612]

Are all Justin's assholes or what?? Lol

[@erichaley4485]

I want this car. but I'm gonna hold off until the following year. the auto seems like the way to go with near 200 mph top speed,but I'm an old school manual transmission person. they seem to be somewhat slower than the automatic on the top end,but I'm not planning on going 200 mph anywhere so the stick is what I'm gonna get.

[@Gooddog1]

Question on the auto, torn between the the 10 speed and 6. I know the benefits of quick shift no missing gears ect. What are your RPM's at around 70 to 90 mph. If you know the answer to that on on the manual while in 6th gear that what be great. Trying to figure out long distance hwy travel and rpm's. Thanks I would like to get one by the end of the year.

[@BrianBranch1968]

Even if Ford develops a 700+ hp monster, what platform will they use ? The reason the ZL1 outperformed the Corvette Grand Sport is because of the Alpha chassis and that magna-ride suspension, something the current Mustang can’t come close to matching unless they’ve developed a new chassis or are borrowing one from a previous model.

[@jasons2562]

Anyone who doesn't love both this and the GT350-R needs to get educated. You're not a true car enthusiast

[@tjfreak]

That grill ruins the whole fucking thing..educated ? I guess you are & you do the educating ? gtfooh..lol

[@liammeigs4815]

Shelbys mustang isnt a stock technically anyway, its like saying the ZL1 Exorcist is a Cannon stock model. These cars are completely different

[@htsawyers]

Amazing Car.

[@still2fast]

Great review.. I love mine!

[@chasevineland1508]

$63K wow! Super mega bargain and it's great looking. As a Porsche and Mercedes owner, sometimes I crave having a badass street car that just does two things - turn heads and burns rubber. Good job USA. Finally got the bean counters on the track.

[@larrycalloway1724]

Hey Guys I'm enjoying this Reviews on this car ! 👍🏽

[@ParissaKhoury]

Motorweek is the best car channel !!!!!

[@BRIANBOBCHAPMAN]

COOL Track Test: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - Camaro, Redefined

[@bbrom333]

Holy mid 90's Consumer Reports video!

[@jamesdharrington8577]

if they want to put a grill that BIG on a Camaro ,they should have gone super retro with a BIG grill on a spilt nose type of look

[@Desstrik]

Great car!

[@bennymt07]

You're getting a lot of car for 63 grand.

[@quentin3330]

TheOutty500 very true.

[@Len1977gt]

You are gettig alot of junk for 63 grand

[@JoeBugatti509]

Beautiful car!

[@seansacustics]

I'd definitely take one over a helcat. It's engineered so much better

[@westy44cal]

11.5 at 127 was pretty surprising to me. I figured 120-122 max but I guess that 10spd is nasty. Hellcat better look at anything below 125.

[@josiahthibodeaux]

Plastic paddles?!?! You have to scratch your head at some of the things car manufacturers do. Amazing car!

[@shitstain7137]

i bet they sell aluminum covers on ebay

[@brankind969]

It's such a beautiful car. I have a 2017 SS

[@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt]

Where the hell is the strut tower brace?

[@javarithms]

This is a great time for American sports cars!!

[@mukio900]

Beautiful car

[@dreray4077]

...DO thse guys no its not 1997 anymore? Thats exactly what this review sounds like.

[@jbalogh01]

Still want a IROC to rock my mullett in.

[@billdavidson9700]

Enough with the "mullet" references

[@quentin3330]

Bill Davidson Relax Joe Dirt.

[@racer774]

For all of the people THINKING the 6-speed manual is faster than the 10-speed auto during Motor Trend's Willow Springs testing, Randy RE-TESTED the automatic because it had too much air pressure in the front tires. The 10-speed automatic went more than 6/10s of a second quicker than the 6-speed. Read the last two paragraphs at the bottom of the article. www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrolet/camaro/2017/2017-chevrolet-camaro-zl1-first-test-brute-squad-goals/ I prefer the 6-speed myself but it IS in fact slower than the automatic, just like all other similar cars tested with both manual and automatics of the modern era.

[@the_track_enthusiast]

thanks for sharing that man !!

[@_baller]

I wonder what it would be like to row 10 gears

[@bingchu6007]

This is definitely a 10 seconds car in stock form with that 127 mph trap speed, very nice!

[@kingrandor7272]

So the hellcat redeye is doing 0-60 in 3.3 and the zl1 does it in 3.5 plus the redeye has over 100 more hp so I'll take the zl1 even tho im a vette guy through and through

[@tblack21]

What is that front tire doing in a drift. That looks concerning

[@omarcantu134]

amazing car, ford is taking alot of time developing the gt500, i think they will give it more than 650hp, but wont handle anywhere near the zl1

[@hmackprotection1]

Omar Cantu, we'll see about the power, but if they made the GT350R handle the way it does, they most definitely can make the New GT500 handle as well as the ZL1

[@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor]

GT500 won last year in the shootout.. guess well see this year

[@CoyoteFTW]

The Gt500 will handle better just wait.

[@hmackprotection1]

leeleelee, bro truthfully the GT350R actually handles just as well as the ZL1 if not slightly better, so it won't surprise me if the new GT500 will handle well, but have the power bump from it's boosted engine

[@CoyoteFTW]

H Mack - all the GT350 needs is more horsepower and torque it "only" has 526hp 429lb-ft. That's all it took run the Nurburgring 8 sec faster than the Z/28. I think there is a reason Ford gave it so little horsepower and torque if it gets over 650 hp and more than 550 torque the ZL1 will be in the rear view mirror. That's all keep the gt350R the same just add more power.

[@BIGGIEDEVIL]

That price is hard to beat for how much HP and performance you get

[@perrythekiller]

What was the driver doing at 3:30?

[@ore5ama]

Kentavis Perry I think thats the track mode anti over steer

[@letterpool]

stability control kicked in looks like...

[@tylercouture216]

letterpool that's some aggressive stability control

[@FishFind3000]

Why the hell are the front wheels locking up?

[@MrTravisjl]

FishFind3000 it's all the traction control nannies that they left on. If the car feels it's about to go into a uncontrolled skid it decides which tire to apply breaks to bring it back in line. Most professionals turn that stuff off in these tutorials. Apparently not for this one.

[@walterbrob]

Still looks like an old Lumina from the rear

[@thotpatrol3409]

650!

[@rickjames6647]

If I competed in a professional race circuit, I'll take the automatic and let the computer do the shifting. If I were buying this car to have fun, I'll take a manual.

[@ODER66MIKE]

i came for a blue camaro ... u guys jibbed me

[@eurosonly]

That front tire smoke lol

[@3rdGenGuy]

I like how the ZL1 is better engineered than the Z06. 11 heat exchangers vs the Z06's 2

[@jeffwill4923]

The 2017 Z06 system did have a upgrade.

[@3rdGenGuy]

umm it still has 1 blower heat exchanger same front radiator just a TINY 2nd engine radiator under the grill for 7 speed models. it still overheats after heavy traCK USE

[@SpencerTaylorOnline]

Wow, John has a nice house!

[@renntech44]

Take my money

[@tevinhoward4419]

It is my favorite car.

[@SBha30]

Holy sh*&t -- I am going to buy this car

[@Confidential619]

I was gonna search this but it was already on my suggestions. They already know me haha...

[@Knight23able]

Chevy and Ford are over here competing for best all around track car. Then there's dodger whose like, we can burn through tires and a straight line

[@matrox]

They couldn't find a manual? They know most will be buying this in manual.

[@rootsmanuva82]

Unofficial poll; you can only choose one: Camaro ZL1 or Corvette Stingray Z51?

[@demetriusjohnson7773]

Jackmerius Tacktheritrix , vette!

[@LS1LT1]

I love them both but would also still have to go with the Corvette. I do already own a Corvette (a very fast bolt ons only C6) and was even recently looking at the Camaro SS as a daily driver (bought a Jeep Wrangler instead) so I certainly would consider the ZL1 to accompany my Corvette. :-)

[@_TheWerewolf]

Jackmerius Tacktheritrix Camaro ZL1.

[@lkcjr58]

I'm sold ! ❤️💯

[@1willubhave]

needed the 1LE package for that track...

[@chosenchild8416]

I want one so bad!

[@adibmir2096]

How does he not talk the eLSD

[@duesing6]

Whats a Ford gt500? I seamed to have forgoten what it was? LOL

[@tayl0rd553]

You'll be reminded soon enough! ;)

[@VaunShiz]

you forgot because its not even out... fail

[@duesing6]

Your right Ford is a copier not the inyvater, they had to see what Chevy was gonna do first. But wait! Chevy has already announced the ZL1-1LE that is already faster on a track then this car without even having to up the horsepower, when does it end Ford will have to skip over 2 whole years to catch up meanwhile Chevy owners are driving around.

[@arkhsm]

And Ford will sell more GT 500s, with a car that appeals to more Americans, due to fitting between it's 2 rivals !!

[@jasonmeldrum7686]

duesing6 LOL what rock have you lived under the last 10 years ?!! "Ford waits, copies, is a follower" again lol. How much was Ford following GM when GM wasn't even producing the Camaro lol ?.... Mustang production continued on. You forget about the GT500 ? GM had nothing. You forget about the GT350 ? out before this, naturally aspirated and not only hangs with it but have seen both the GT350 and GT350R beat it. Ford ain't following GM with the new GT500, this is a car Ford has already been producing and only finalizing production on the next version of it. Ford still had this current Camaro beat half a decade ago with power and still does ! What about the Raptor ? GM never has and still has nothing to compete with it. You're an idiot if you actually believe what you stated and think Ford follows everything GM does !

[@meedi1]

Buyer beware! I bought a new camaro ZL1 earlier this year (March 2017). At a sticker price of almost $70k, it had every option checked off. The car drove great over the first month of ownership. It has been a train wreck ever since. With less than 1700 miles, the engine had to be replaced due to a valve head that broke off the stem in the engine. Since the replacement, I have been to the dealership at least 10 different times for various issues (coolant leaks, audio not coming on, alignment issues etc). Over the 9 months of ownership, it has been at the dealer over 60+ days. I have asked for a replacement and had to go so far as to file a BBB claim to get GM's attention. Still nothing. My first GM purchase and it will likely be my last if this situation is not resolved.

[@ulrek54321]

That sucks ass, haven't had that problem in mine

[@ac80577]

like this. does better than most european cars.

[@edcfyau]

love the car, but can't afford one

[@24theMoney]

And just like that, the Camaro is no more. 2024.

[@ajgonzo94]

"but most of us knew it was just a maaaaatter of time..."

[@theplayernkc]

Awesome car. Hope GM made you put new tires on it before you returned it to them.

[@official___tay2458]

it automatic??

[@Bmackins94]

prince rosinda yep 10 speed Auto