Nice to see an honest review. Thanks. I'm a Kubota BX23S owner, but I don't have a bias one way or the other. My choice came down to the dealer and which one treated me the best. Kubota won. Dealer location wasn't an issue since the Deere and Kubota dealers are across the street from each other. I thought the lack of position control would be a big negative when selecting the BX. After some thought I realized that the vast majority of 3 point work on a subcompact the hitch is either fully up or down. Then came the problem with the hitch not floating back down due to terrain changes. By opening up the flow valve and riding the lever to compensate for the terrain, the implement stays engaged. Sounds like a lot to do, but it quickly becomes second nature. There are so many excellent tractor brands available it's hard to go wrong. The one thing that I see way too often is people chasing specs. To those that say "My tractor can lift more than yours", yet will never come anywhere close to pushing the tractor to it's limits, what's the point? Buy the tractor that fits your needs, is within your budget, and if you can find a dealer that is honest and treats you well...you are in good shape.
@TractorTimewithTim5 жыл бұрын
Good comment!
@curtwhite8765 жыл бұрын
I spent four hours on my tractor volunteering at my kid's school yesterday. I whistled and hummed your tune nearly the whole time. Awesome.
@jeffsa79735 жыл бұрын
Finally, a review that is not an advertisement and honest facts. Thank you.
@greensteel97573 жыл бұрын
Honest facts.... help your own country and not out source tractors. What happens when something breaks better to buy a better supplier that has more parts on hand... “johndeere”
@halsnyder2963 жыл бұрын
I bought a tractor a little over a year ago. I had intended to buy a John Deere, hadn’t even thought about Kubota. While our house was being built I asked all the machinery operators their opinions. They all told me either a Kubota or a Deere but they cautioned me the Deere dealer wasn’t good. I started calling the parts departments to find out availability of common “breakage” parts. In almost every case one dealer had the parts in stock, the other could have it in in a week or so. The end result, based on dealer support, was I bought a Kubota L4701. It’s been a good machine, and when I snapped a brush hog blade I had a new set later that day. So... evaluate your dealers!
@meadowviewlawncarellc80795 жыл бұрын
Even though I’m above the sub compact tractor market, I think this is a really great review of both machines. It is full of useful information from someone other then a dealer. I think it will definitely help someone in the market for a machine. Well done Tim.
@kc8bdr5 жыл бұрын
I could not agree more.
@adventurerhoades5 жыл бұрын
I am brand new to tractors. I got the 2019 massey 1735M. I have just over 100hrs on it. DId some food plots ,brush hogging, snow removal. So far really like it. Tim does amazing job with these reviews. Ive only done a few videos with the tractor. Its a lot of work but its been fun
@adventurerhoades5 жыл бұрын
@@donaldkrause2619 what does this mean?
@10010111001010015 жыл бұрын
@@adventurerhoades He means that he needs/uses a different class of tractor. Bigger.
@junkworks14 жыл бұрын
@@1001011100101001 i think he meant it as a double entendre. His tractor and himself....... jk
@BigGary795 жыл бұрын
This is going to be a very useful series. Thanks for taking the time to make this.
@davidjohns98165 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone comparing two tractors of the same year. Usually when you see Kubota and John Deere comparisons they are not comparing the same model year. Making one look far better than the other. Keep up the good work!
@bdlvn59495 жыл бұрын
I own a 2018 Kubota BX 23S and do use the 3 point a lot. I believe a 23S is the same as a 2680 except it comes with factory installed loader and backhoe. If you look closely there are two stops for the 3 point lift that can be adjusted by reaching under the fender. They can be used to stop up or down, also can be used to hold lift lever in down position to float in the down position. Great for using tiller, blade, etc. At least, that's how my BX 23S works. Best video I've seen on these two machines. Good job.
@beunbad2 жыл бұрын
Those stops u deer the fender where the rear wheel is or accessed at the three point hitch? Looking at two similar set up machines. Have a Kubota dealer in town and JD is roughly 15 or 20 minutes away.
@greatmoose175 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned John Deere’s for 35 years and love my dealer. But I bought a Kubota BX this month after spending months doing research. My three critical points are dealer, price and equipment. And it killed me to switch dealers, but price and equipment won out. Both will get the job done and you can’t go wrong with either.
@kd68365 жыл бұрын
greatmoose17 I’ve had a 1025 and I have a 2011 Kubota 3300. Zero issues with the Kubota. I sold the John Deere after constant replacement of the pins and other hardware on the drive over deck. Cheap metal.
@verteup5 жыл бұрын
But the 1 series JD walks all over the Kubota in every...single...metric. and Tim hasn't had any issues at all.
@johnathancrotzer549110 ай бұрын
nothing is perfect but you seem happy with your equipment and that's all that matters
@denisewilson83675 жыл бұрын
I love the way you were honest about each tractor and then adding your opinion lastly. Thank you for the honest review. Looking forward to more.
@dankrebs1764 жыл бұрын
I have a 1023 sub-compact with a rototiller and i find if you move the centre turnbuckle in so the tiller is angled toward the tractor, it digs in as far as the three point will allow it ...10 inches plus.
@randywhelan89445 жыл бұрын
As the owner of multiple Kubota units from BX series all the way through L series and even the MX series each individual tractor has its certain uses . until buying my first John Deere last year we have now found that the largest and most notable difference between kubota and John deer is the #1 weight john deer, HEAVIER #2 hydraulic system capability stronger as shown at the END of the video, personally I find myself usually running for a John deer FIRST but if the ground is WET well then, go grab the kubota because I can usually get into the job SITE and out of the job SITE with very little problems, just my personal experience, love them both, GREAT JOB ON THE VIDEO CAN'T WAIT FOR THE REST
@johntomko70315 жыл бұрын
The three point hitch lower arms, on the Kubota , can be moved outward, to remove the quick hitch, by removing one of the pins at the end of the lower arms. The mower deck should be locked in the up position when using the three point hitch. I don't think you can go wrong with either tractor. I always look forward to your videos .
@kevinsheddrick27574 жыл бұрын
Being a new 1025r owner, this series has been a wealth of information on the fine details of my tractor and how to use and adjust things. Great! “The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge, for the ears of the wise seek it out.” Ps 18:15
@stevepoore24105 жыл бұрын
Great job Tim! In 2006 I bought a Deere 2305 and it is setup like the Kubota, stabilizers on the inside and no (set spots) on the lift arms controls. Kubota, Cub Cadet, New Holland and Deere were all the same price. No Regrets on buying the Deere it has done me well. I would like to upgrade to the 1 series but the price keeps me from doing so and there is nothing wrong with the 2305. Thanks for the videos!
@curvinleinbach5 жыл бұрын
You are correct on the 3 point analysis. I do rest my hand on the lever on my GC2300 keeping it just over center in the lowered position while tilling. And Kubota would do well to add an inch or two of arm length. My equipment doesn't fit well on a BX because of pto length and I also drag my feet on shortening shafts to fit someone else's tractor.
@tractorboy315 жыл бұрын
Thats probably how they get the wieght increase vs JD
@robertbohannan22555 жыл бұрын
I feel one important issue you missed is that on the Kubota the mmm will lock out in the top position so as not to raise and lower every time you move the 3point hitch. Keeps in up out of the way. Very good review. Thanks Tim.
@flick226015 жыл бұрын
It will also lock in the top position on the JD 1025R but it takes less than a minute to take the Deere deck off. Think Deere will definitely win that round.
@MessicksEquip5 жыл бұрын
Nice job Tim. The only thing I saw that you did wrong there was not using the 'top' position on the kubota mower deck. It'll have double the clearance of the Deere mower, so generally you can do more things without taking it off. ... Have fun with your plastic, aluminum, yanmar tractor 😀
@ritterjon5 жыл бұрын
Come on now Neil, you’re right about the height position control but the “plastic, aluminum Yanmar” comment was just mean. 😁 Keep on tractoring!
@MessicksEquip5 жыл бұрын
@@ritterjon if Tim gets a jab we do too 😀
@TractorTimewithTim5 жыл бұрын
Hey Neil! That knob wouldn't adjust to the 'top' position. I had to set it at the next to top position. Any tricks to make this work? I'll fiddle with it again.
@TractorTimewithTim5 жыл бұрын
I now see why they don't put many lights on those orange tractors. They almost glow in the dark!
@MessicksEquip5 жыл бұрын
@@TractorTimewithTim take the deck to the top. I think it may only go in clockwise or counter. Those knobs sometimes don't turn the easiest. You should be able to get it up against the frame. If it's not adjusted properly, it's possible it's not going high enough.
@williambrown2185 жыл бұрын
I've seen all I needed to know by watching all your previous videos. Watching what you've been able to accomplish with Johnnie is what convinced me to pull the trigger 2 months ago and get a 1025 of my own. Very happy with the decision. I enjoy watching and learning from all your adventures. Keep up the good work.
@realpdm5 жыл бұрын
Sorry if someone already mentioned it, but the knob right below the seat on the BX will keep the mower deck from lowering with the 3pt hitch. Turn it to the TOP marking and it will lock the mower deck all the way up. Even if you have the deck removed, it should be set to TOP position when using 3PT attachments. Fun to see you using my tractor (I have BX23S).
@TractorTimewithTim5 жыл бұрын
I had that knob set as high as possible.
@realpdm5 жыл бұрын
Interesting! It seemed like the deck was going down with the tiller. When I first got my BX23S I had a really really really hard time getting the knob to turn to TOP. Apparently I was turning it the wrong direction.
@treyn36554 жыл бұрын
Great series! I'm in the market and I can't tell you how helpful this has been. Thanks so much for all the time and work you both gave to it.
@babranson15 жыл бұрын
Great review! I love the objectivity of the videos. It is easy yo see bias where they are trying to sell you something. I grew up on JD 820 and 830 and Ford 8N. I owned a JD 4620 (135 hp) and 4850, with 10,000 hrs it still would dyno 216 peak and 196 continuous. Great tractors. I have retired and now own a Kubota B 3350 and Grand L5740. Both cab tractors. I love the hi low range lever on the column of the 5740. I use it every time I get in the tractor.
@barelystablefarm71515 жыл бұрын
I think it’s hilarious you kept the mower deck on and cited the reason as “it’s a pain to remove”. It’s the exact reason why I opted for the Deere as it was huge for me. Great vid!
@matheweszenyi19784 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest reasons I do wish I owned a Deere, the mid mount. That said, sales and support at Pape was arrogant and dismissive. Make sure you take that into account when making a purchasing decision. PTI (Pacific Tractor and Implement) a local dealer is why I own a BX and not a Deere. They have always treated a little guy like me with respect and first class service.
@micahprice28074 жыл бұрын
I grew up pulling a 6ft disk and a two-row planter on my grandfather's 40 horse JD 2040. We ran it until a fire destroyed the electrical system on the tractor and we parked it... Sadness... great review!
@m1lkman19745 жыл бұрын
I REALLY enjoyed your unbiased compariason. So refreshing!! Thank you Tim!
@JerichoRally5 жыл бұрын
wow...and that surprise ending. hopefully that will make it into subsequent episodes of this comparison. Thanks for doing this!
@shawnklemm15325 жыл бұрын
Just straight shooting, honest information, no b.s. Great job and looking forward to more. Thanks Tim.
@TractorTimewithTim5 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching, Shawn!
@michaelknulle69245 жыл бұрын
Well done tim by far the best test i ve seen on you tube.carry on that way .have a nice week .
@jaysom22405 жыл бұрын
for being comparable tractors, the kobota looks like a toy next to the 120R. Good review Tim. Keep up the good work!
@jagx2345 жыл бұрын
A non dealer comparison with real world examples?! Yes!
@danredder34235 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I have been trying to research these too myself but also have found very one sided arguments. I have found your views very helpful. One question I have is seat operation room, I am almost 7 foot tall so control postion and spacing for my legs and body is crucial, along with placment of controls for ease of operation. Thank you again and have a great day.
@CoalChrome5 жыл бұрын
what we always do (granted I'm referring to a pair of 55 horse Mahindras) is we put the implement on first, raise it just off of the ground, then center it and adjust the sway bars, we always make sure to put the end of the arms to the inside of the pins as it gives us more lift height.
@bobhomestead73965 жыл бұрын
Tim the reason why the tiller was lifting in the back was because you had the mower deck on. To solve that problem, Lift the mower deck all the way up, then set the mower height adjustment to top. this actually lets the three point hitch fall all by itself, Because the mower will stay at the top level were is will not interfere. Hope i explained that good. There also is an adjustment to limit the three point hitch, i will have to look that up when i have more time. Thanks for the video.
@Formulabruce5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see this from the side, in action. What you say makes sense .
@jimmy553015 жыл бұрын
When I started looking for a compact tractor, I started with the BX. I ended up getting a B2650, and here's why: loader lift capacity, overall weight, 3-point hitch features, and ground clearance. The weight and loader capacity are obviously larger for the larger tractor. I understand the B2650 compares more closely to the Deere 3000 series. But I didn't like the BX not having position control on the 3-point hitch. My B2650 has position control, extendable links, and "telescoping flat bar style" stabilizers (on the inside), all of which works very well. (Maybe the BX now has optional "telescoping flat bar style" stabilizers?? That would be a great improvement.) The telescoping flat bar stabilizers have holes that you put a pin through to lock it at a certain length. They are easy to pull the pin and change the length. And there are enough holes to give a variety of usable lengths, including float positions.
@jefftrumpour89665 жыл бұрын
Round #1 was exactly what I was hoping for - a fair comparison of important things between the 2 tractors. The 3 point hitch weight comparison was very interesting and answers a question that I was wondering about my own BX2680, so thank you. Can't wait for the next round!
@kavemanthewoodbutcher2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tim and Christy, I just bought a 2018 1025r. Thanks for all your content, it certainly helped my decision. That said, I was a bit biased from the onset, since I worked on John Deere equipment for years at a golf course. I love my tractor, and her capability continues to impress me. God bless!
@richpicone77885 жыл бұрын
Good job Tim. Look forward to the next! I guess we know who wins the loader capacity comparison.
@kc8bdr5 жыл бұрын
I agree, but it looks like the Deere struggled a bit to do so. I am hoping Tim comments about that in an upcoming video.
@batterpm115 жыл бұрын
And this is why I love TTWT.
@youngscott625 жыл бұрын
There is a knob at the base of the seat that controls how fast the mower deck/3 point lift arms go down. For the tilling test you may need to open the valve/knob so it can float faster. I have run into this while grading out potholes with a rear blade. Great video!
@troyr575 жыл бұрын
Tried to see if anyone commented on using the tiller with the mower Deck still Attached on the Kubota, you pick up the mower Deck, and turn the height adjustment dial to the Top position, then the Deck will stay in the Top position, while adjusting the tiller height. Love your dedication to making these videos.
@TractorTimewithTim5 жыл бұрын
This machine would not rotate to the top position. Discussed at length in the follow up video.
@troyr575 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sorry, I was watching them in order, and saw that on the next one, oops my bad. Lol. I have a BX2380, currently with 37 hours, have learned a lot watching your videos. I previously had a 2005, BX 23, sold in in 2011 with 600 hours, and got a good price for it. I also have a B3200, TLB love it also.
@stedder84365 жыл бұрын
Hey Tim. I’m sure it’s in your plans, but you should also mention price of the two units. Just another thing to compare. Have a great day.
@cashxx5 жыл бұрын
They were about the same for me in my area at around 22k. The Kubota was a little more because of their warranty they force you into and I believe it was around $1400 or so. JD was pennies on the dollar, but don't think it is as good as the Kubota one. I think JD's was around $350 or so.
@kennyluvspizzaent9475 жыл бұрын
stedder8436 i find the deere to be about 1000-1500 more
@niederbayer11995 жыл бұрын
cashxx interesting just bought here a bx 2380 with frontloader for quite below 17k € the whole package with tiller, fail mower, snow shield with front hydraulic and grasland harrow and change the lower link eye with a normal euro catch hook... all for 23k € and 5 year warranty is included...
@hammondtractor5 жыл бұрын
We sell both and they are very similar in price with just a loader your around 17k
@cashxx5 жыл бұрын
@@niederbayer1199 Sorry, I was comparing 2018 models of the 1025r and BX23s with backhoes when I was looking. They were about the same price.
@SteelSurgeon5 жыл бұрын
I am pretty stingy with likes on youtube. You sir, have earned one from me today. Keep up the good work and I cant wait to watch this series. I own a 1025r mostly because I got it for a good price. Most videos I have watched, no matter how honest they say they are going to be, usually is pretty biased. You did a great job being up front with details in this first video of the series.
@Budd565 жыл бұрын
I agree
@marcoman994 жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for a compact tractor and like most everyone else my choice has come down to these two machines, so thank you for your review since it is very helpful. However, I'm not sure why you make light of the other reviewers, since a metal hood versus a plastic one makes a big difference to me, especially when it comes to quality and longevity, and I'm glad that information was given to me by another reviewer. There was also no need to call him bias, since of course he was, just like you clearly are. Saying you are not bias does not mean you are not bias. You can cut the bias in your videos with a knife. But I do thank you again for your very knowledgeable information.
@TractorTimewithTim4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your new Kubota! I think you missed that I called the other major Deere based review biased as well.
@marcoman994 жыл бұрын
@@TractorTimewithTim I'm still undecided -- you make some pretty damn good arguments for team green. I can overlook the plastic but the proprietary attachment issue has me concerned. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@TractorTimewithTim4 жыл бұрын
Yea, I ignored the plastic/steel thing precisely because everyone else spends a large portion of their time on it. As for the ‘proprietary’ loader connection, I am a HUGE fan of this for subcompact tractors due to the 90 lb weight savings. Attachments are the same price, We have an episode detailing this. I think it has the words ‘myth busters’ in the title.
@allroyalty50154 жыл бұрын
Shopped for 6 months and did my research, ended up with the B2650. I think I was bias, so damn sick of JD's pricing and proprietary games. My machines get used and maintained, dont have the time to be messing around with service shops mostly JD. Aside from the single piece drive pedal, Im happy with my B2650.
@85square5 жыл бұрын
i have a bx and i would buy one again i personally like it better than the deere but its not like im going to not like someone because they have a deere And a funny thing to note on my tiller the dealer flipped the pins to point inwards so you don't need to loosen the 3 point
@bobteter43005 жыл бұрын
I'm a Kubota guy, but I thought it was a very good review. I would be interested in knowing more about the Center of Gravity in relation to the rear tires; i.e., I would be interested in which is less likely to tip over an a grade. (It would be a math excerise, not a demonstration!). If they both had mid mount mowers attached that would ever be better! Thanks again and keep it up!
@rodk.68785 жыл бұрын
As with the tractors themselves, everyone has a different agenda and different approaches of doing things. So I'm not a big review person, but I do like seeing how different engineers think about the same task. As always great work guys.....
@KrazyKajun6023 жыл бұрын
Both are good tractors, both colors will break at one point. The main thing is to find a good dealership you can work with that has a great and friendly service dept that will take care of you.
@swalesutube5 жыл бұрын
Tim, you missed something VERY important. The Deere 1025r 3 point arms are Reversible. They provide different geometry depending on how you mount them. One way gives you higher lift. Please reverse them and show the viewers how it changes things... for better or worse. Thanks for the work you do,
@TractorTimewithTim5 жыл бұрын
Good point. I knew that, but forgot.
@bradshaw1064 жыл бұрын
I have had my 1023 for 4 years and never new that! Can’t wait to go out in the garage tomorrow morning and check it out
@beunbad2 жыл бұрын
When you say higher lift did you mean reversing them gives you a higher weight or height?
@TallTexasGMan5 жыл бұрын
It looks like you may have fairly close to the same tire treads. Is the BX fluid filled? I would be curious to see some traction tests performed.
@SeattleSteelLLC5 жыл бұрын
Before I purchased my first tractor, I was sure I was going to buy a John Deere. I went to John Deere with intent to purchase. New Holland was a few miles up the road so after looking at the Deere I decided just to be sure I’d look at the New Holland. Disappointed with the New Holland I was even more sure about the Deere. Actually went there on the way back and filled out the credit app. Kubota was on the other side of town and I really didn’t want to go there but as thorough as I am with anything I purchase I decided to go just to look around. After I saw the Kubota B26 TLB I was very impressed. I knew right there that I wanted that tractor. I called the sales guy from John Deere as said I’m going for the B26 and told him to talk me out of it. He said John Deere has nothing like the Kubota B26. It’s been a year since and I’ve never once had buyers remorse or any regret with my purchase. That’s my story. I am a homeowner and purchased it for my personal home use.
@nickc32075 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this. I have been researching compact tractors for about 5 months with the intention to buy spring 2020. You hit the nail on the head with most reviews being so biased and focused on silly things. You are probably planning to look at these items but I would love to see comparisons on cockpit controls and usability. Also scheduled maintenance and how easy or hard it is on each to preform service. Thanks again for the effort you are putting into this.
@1STGeneral Жыл бұрын
Did you buy a new machine and if so which one also would you make the same purchase again?
@joewickman65815 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I learned quite a bit by watching. I’ve got a BX, but I truly appreciate the objective comparisons. I’m really looking forward to what other contrasts you discover in the next episodes in this series!
@beunbad2 жыл бұрын
How do you like the BX ? I’m looking at a used 1025 and a BX similarly equipped and priced
@mrdfarms93735 жыл бұрын
I really wish folks would stop comparing the Kubota BX to a John Deere 1025R. Go get a Kubota B2620 and compare. Kubota B2320 owner
@nanomaine5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree: compare to a B series Kubota. The BX is way too small to compare to the 1025R. A Kubota B2650 or B3350 (like mine) would also be a good comparison. Otherwise, a very useful comparison; thank you, Tim!
@eosjoe5655 жыл бұрын
It makes sense to me. Most folks who are in the market for a sub-compact tractor will ultimately shop and compare these two models. A BX is a direct head to head competitor to the JD 1-series. What better to compare? Even Kubota themselves compares the two tractors. A B2620 would compare closer to Gen-1 JD 2-series (2520/2720). It no longer compares to the Gen-2 2-series since JD has upsized them compared to the Gen-1 series.
@mrdfarms93735 жыл бұрын
Well, I totally disagree. Need to compare compact to compact. It looks like Good works Tractor has a B2620 in their inventory. @tractortimewithtim it would a better comparison with the B2620
@Formulabruce5 жыл бұрын
@@mrdfarms9373 SUB is the word, SUB-Compact. My dad has a 2320 and I had a 1026R and we compared a lot,
@eosjoe5655 жыл бұрын
@@mrdfarms9373 That doesn't make sense. The BX2680 and Deere 1025R are both 25HP SUB-compact class tractors weighing around 1500 lbs. The comparison doesn't get any closer than that. In fact, the BX2680 even has an additional HP and weighs over 75 lb. more. Why would you want to introduce a COMPACT-class tractor into the comparison?
@richbutinski13673 жыл бұрын
To keep the mower from dropping when you drop the 3 point, u have to have the mower height adjuster in the top lock position...
@imbthree4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting in the work! We appreciate you bud, keep up the great videos!
@m2autoworks5 жыл бұрын
lock the mower deck up with the mower height control. that should help keep it out of the way on the kubota
@phillipjohnryan8684 жыл бұрын
The only reason somone would love a mahindra is that it's new cheap or they haven't had a tractor before.
@rickysafer28955 жыл бұрын
In the hill country here in central Texas a wider wheel base really helps out on the slopes and hills. I run a Yanmar 424 and it really has performed good for what I have used it for.
@nerdyeevideos18795 жыл бұрын
The deer is taller and the operator sits higher. My best guess is it would be a wash on stability...
@markpowell47015 жыл бұрын
After owning a Kubota 2660 for nine years, I wish I would have gone with the Deere. The plastic side covers never fit well and the vibration cracked the keepers on the top front side. Break the head light and you buy both which are hooked together with a plastic bridge. Love your show...
@shawnengstrom39065 жыл бұрын
I've been running a bx2370 for 6 years now mostly for snow removal with blower and broom. It's a great tractor, but the front quick hitch is sub par to the Deere and so are the attachments. I would choose the JD over the Kubota next time around.
@TractorTimewithTim5 жыл бұрын
Wish I had access to the BX front quick hitch and attachments!
@122276mjs5 жыл бұрын
Owned a JD 1025R, was a decent tractor, wasn’t real impressed with quality. Just sold a Kubota B2601 and that was a good tractor. I’m on to a Kioti NX5510. So far so good
@jeremyk49244 жыл бұрын
Finally a good comparison! Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Much appreciated!
@TractorTimewithTim4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeremy. There are 11 episodes total to this comparison series. Lots of details and examples. Hope you get a chance to see them all.
@harveyrousejr.20695 жыл бұрын
One of the most objective reviews I've ever seen on You Tube. Great job Tim.
@andysworld21885 жыл бұрын
Tim, for the hydraulic PSI test the BX is rated to be at max pressure of 2000psi. Ive heard from factory its set between 1925 & 1950. When people use shims they usually raise it to 1975 to 1985psi range and see a noticeable difference.
@jpw14905 жыл бұрын
The thing is if john deere did the test they would point out all the good things of the jd and the bad things of the kubota it would be the same if kubota did the test si its great that you are doing it
@jocmarrs60705 жыл бұрын
1)Weight of each tractor - ( maybe how much ballast you can put in each and what maximum effective weight can be reached) 2)Power lost at pto - (maybe how fast can each tractor complete a task under load) 3) consistency in power under load - (for example if you were to till in soft dirt then hit sod or top soil, how do the tractors handle or react, or mowing grass/ brush hogging going from short/ thin to long/ thick do the tractors bog out and slow down etc.) Thank you for any consideration
@ashleynicely10464 жыл бұрын
Not all implements attach outside the tool, some attach inside, which is why many have attachments both inside and outside the tool. Your Deere advantage is not an advantage at all, it's just a difference and it's a handicap sometimes, just as the Kubota is sometimes. My Case-Ih has the outside limiting equipment, it's a bear and a half under some circumstances. I can't be the only one who notices that.
@redporschekilla5 жыл бұрын
Tim, I’ve been following you since quite some time, your way of explaining things inspired me to buy my Johnny, also a 1025R. I’m not a brand jockey, but my JD shop is right around the corner, whereas a presence of Kubota shops takes me to much time to reach, hence I’ve got me a Johnny. Keep them review videos coming, you and your family are doing a marvelous job! On a side note, how about a review of an offset ditch mower! I’m in the market, but haven’t seen much in the InteeWeb about it, especially since I need to install a 3rd function for it. Yours truly, Volker
@zebmueller2905 жыл бұрын
Vary good video Tim. Look forward to the rest of these. I definitely have to agree that it’s vary fusterating to find a good comparison video between them.
@bete15885 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Tim . Nice video over the tractors . I am a farmer in north west Germany 8km from Emden. We ride 6 john deere from 42 to 170 hp . The tractors are from 1972 to 2008 . John Deere is a great global Player .but the engeneers from john deere learn never .that growing point from the top link on the tractor must a few inches more nearly to the axle !!! And the growing point must a few inches higher .. In germany we ride since the tractors came on the farms .the most machines in 3point hitch . On the old fendt .old deutz .old international tractors is it no problem to adjust the machines in the 3point hitch . On our john 2040 from 1986 with sg 2 was is often a catastrophe to adjust the machines in the 3point hitch . The lift high was often too low . Nice greatings from North West Germany from Bert !!!
@grantdeisig13605 жыл бұрын
The end of the video doesn't surprise me at all... The curling power on the Deere is just superb for it's size. My brother has a BX25, and he and I can both tell that the Deere has better hydraulics on the loader when it comes to lifting stuff. However, the actual lifting cylinders struggled on both tractors to lift that load, but did you see how Tim was able to come in at a different angle and a slightly higher height to take advantage of the stronger curling function on the Deere? Well done video Tim, can't wait for more!
@salmonhunter74145 жыл бұрын
It all comes down to cost and how close your dealer is.
@jaybee23445 жыл бұрын
I want know the engine noise levels. The JD rattles to much at idle as the KB just purs.
@tuffram21655 жыл бұрын
Kubota diesel is significantly quieter than the yanmar. Both are great engines but you see way more kubota diesel engines in other brand equipment than just about any other manufacturer.
@BaymondRell5 жыл бұрын
For me, I'm a Kubota guy (BX2200 since 2003) but agree this JD looks great and I think the single large cylinder on the front end loader of the BX could use a little more grunt (saw that little dig at the end...lol but it's true for sure). All in all, whichever you prefer, just take great care of your tractor and keep it well serviced and you will get many great years of solid use out of your equipment!
@TractorTimewithTim5 жыл бұрын
Hope you get a chance to watch the rest of the series. Lots of interesting details revealed. It has been educational for us as well as for the viewers.
@beunbad2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the sizing of the front curl cylinder more than likely matched to the GPM and pressure of the hydraulic system? To increase the size of its diameter you would need a bigger higher flow and high pressure pump?
@schoenys544 жыл бұрын
I’ve been back and forth between these two companies. You’re insight is really appreciated! Thanks and well done!
@matthewjames91675 жыл бұрын
Tim, even though I bought the 1025r, went in to buying a tractor with an open mind. I had a Cub Cadet 5234d before it and loved it. Got a great deal used. But the decision was down to these 2 and the thing that made my decision was I know someone who works at the dealer HQ. 🤷🏻♂️ Again I feel like I got a great deal on a new tractor. Thanks and keep it up.
@tomf99284 жыл бұрын
Northern seclusion
@stevealexander80104 жыл бұрын
8:15 - buy a $2 spring pin to replace one cottered-pin, and they you have no turnbuckle issue on the K'.
@thadhaley73245 жыл бұрын
Next best thing to me actually test driving both!!! Great video and cant wait for the rest.
@mr.mat11445 жыл бұрын
One thing I would like to add is, agco/ Massey sub compact and compact tractors do have the same 3 pt lever control as the Deere so you can have the exact height that you desire
@TractorTimewithTim5 жыл бұрын
The gc1725 does not have position control. See our overview from the national farm machinery show in February.
@ohiovalleypondandexcavatio21145 жыл бұрын
Another great video Tim. I’ve actually thought about this a lot because I’m starting to have a lot of issues with my 2038r. The main issues I’m having is as follows, the stand of the loader has been replaced twice the bolts keep breaking it keeps bending. The mid mount mower setting is going haywire now. The front loader loses pressure whenever you have a load on it and you can almost watch it settling to the ground. My Backhoe You Must keep raising the Boom or the backhoe just bounces all over the place. And I am told by my dealer all this is normal just keep the pin in to keep it locked. So the only other tractor around me is orange. But service is the key and I am not getting it from my dealer.
@derek78375 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in your thoughts on kubotas treadle pedal vs Deeres hydro pedals
@andysworld21885 жыл бұрын
When it comes to the peddles it's a matter of preference. There is a small advantage to the treadle peddle when you are turned around looking behind you. It's easier to switch back and forth from forward to backward with a treadle peddle. No matter which one you get you will get used to it quick.
@_P0tat07_5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I hate the treadle pedal regardless of machine or brand. I much prefer John Deere’s hydro pedals.
@NukePooch15 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear about this as well. I know he's used to the Deere, but how easy is it to 'get used to' the Kubota?
@_P0tat07_5 жыл бұрын
N Pooch getting used to how it works isn’t the problem. In my opinion at least. That problem for me lies in that it’s uncomfortable to roll your ankle forward and backward, as opposed to rocking on the heel of your foot to press a pedal.
@SledgeHammer435 жыл бұрын
I have operated equipment with both a treadle pedal. I personally do not like a treadle pedal. They are hard on the ankle especially when wearing a boot.
@stevegarlock42695 жыл бұрын
Great comparison in many aspects. Not sure where to jump in here. I waited for deere to deliver a subcompact for so long that I ended up buying a Kubota. I can't complain as for the last 20 years I have installed retaining walls, dug small ponds, cleared land and most of all mowed 2.5 acres of yard weekly. I have done nothing to the tractor other than replace the battery, an air filter bracket under recall and change fluids. Kubota makes bulldozers that are disguised as sub-compact tractors if you want my honest opinion. My friend bought the deere 1025 this year and it's a nice looking machine. I'm just struggling to understand how Deere dropped the ball on the loader. Without lift and curl you are so limited in what the loader can do. It's like having a half functioning loader. Other than that the drive on deck is nice but I would like a review after years of use. My deck comes off in 5 minutes without tools and although it's not perfect I doubt I would pay much to anything fancy as you still have to get off the tractor. The one issue I do want to point our is regarding that 3 point tilt. I dug many post holes with my machine and if the auger were to go up and down at an angle like that I think it would have caused me some trouble. I like my posts level. Other than that after 2 decades of nothing but work out of that machine I'd be hard-pressed to ever switch brands. Kubota is Amercan made in Georgia and Kubota engines are world class. Deer smaller tractors are made overseas. Just a few notations for the informed.
@titan_36344 жыл бұрын
On my kubota 3pt, I placed spring bar retaining clips in the clevis (shackle) connecting the turnbuckles to the lower arms. So when I want to change attachments I can pull the pins to quickly spread the lower arms.
@MattKochelJJInaJayco5 жыл бұрын
I do like your tests and great views of both tractors. Great view and information 👍
@hsmith38445 жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons I own a Deere. My broken up body trying to mount mid-mower. Just the first reason.
@kevinsullivan90494 жыл бұрын
I understand, I'm in the same boat....
@jasonantes95004 жыл бұрын
@@kevinsullivan9049 Kubota has a drive over mmm for the BX. I've had back surgery and it is pretty easy to hookup and unhook.
@srobins055 жыл бұрын
My father has a 10 year old bx2660 and I just bought the 2018or 2019 Deere... I love my Deere in comparison.... I know the kabota is older but when I hopped on the Deere there was no comparison... I put 3/4 of the hours on my dads tractor so I knew it pretty well. But both great rigs!
@kenjohnson66033 жыл бұрын
I think that not being able to remove the mower deck would be a sever handicap. That really lessens your ground clearance.
@xjfo5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Tim. I happen to own the BX23S but I would be equally happy with a 1025R. I agree with your assessment. The 3 point height adjustment would be a nice feature and I wish I had had it when I was using my box blade on the driveway. I have since paved my driveway so its not much of an issue anymore. I would also love the JD drive over deck. While my Kubota deck is not that hard to take on and off I only do it when I have to. I chose the Kubota because my neighbor has one and I was able to watch him and ask lots of questions. I have both a John Deere dealer and a Kubota dealer about equal distances apart, both being less than 10 miles away. My John Deere dealer is fine but I enjoy working with the guys at the Kubota dealer more. I always enjoy watching your videos and seeing the differences between the various tractors you own and use. Thanks for the honest review. Its refreshing.
@LaVidaPenaVega5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making such great content! Wish i would have watched this before Bought my sub compact.. But i think it made the right choice! 1025R for the win!!! Keep the videos coming! God Bless!
@TractorTimewithTim5 жыл бұрын
If you got the 1025r, you made the right choice! Trust me. You’ve seen only one portion of this review.
@KevinCoop15 жыл бұрын
Tim, I have a BX2360. Did you set the mower deck height to top when tilling? I'm interested to know the differences of pto running. BX has three positions, but don't know how greenies does it. When I bought my BX, with front bucket and mower deck, there was about $100 difference. I just looked both of them up. Base tractors with 60" mower, Greene wins! Add the front loader, orange wins. I like your head to head. It's REAL information, not just what the dealer thinks is better. I was shocked orange lifted higher and more! Respectfully, Kevin
@ThePlowGuys5 жыл бұрын
A large factor in the choice of these two tractors is price. Other than that they are basically the same machine and their abilities.
@jessiehodges15135 жыл бұрын
Unscripted, unbiased, play it by ear review about practical details you wish you knew before you bought the tractor but don’t understand and know about until you put the thing to use
@tomcarter98165 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always Tim, I have a 1025r, but like all tractors as well. To me the most important aspect of owning a tractor, that is a sizable investment, is the longevity of the tractor & the dealership as it relates to service & repair. Pretty much any subcompact tractor will do the task of the average homeowner but down the road will the tractor continue to perform well, and can I count on the dealership to back me up😊
@2aforteens5177 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clear review. I live south of Indy now, but have lived in Lebanon in the past.
@bradlarson84584 жыл бұрын
I have a BX2660 purchased new and now with about 1400 hrs and have noticed the same problem you experienced on the tiller. I find myself holding the three point lever down until I get the depth I desire. I tie the mower deck up with a cargo strap because the mower deck is a REAL PAIN to take off. The same function that allowed you to lift more on the kubota 3pt is the same thing that prevented you from lifting the pallet of racking. the "moment" on the kubota 3pt is shorter but longer on the kubota loader. The "moment" on the jd 3pt is longer but the loader is shorter. The 243 loader on my BX can make a big difference by the tilt of the bucket and can lift my back tires off the ground if not careful.
@TractorTimewithTim4 жыл бұрын
Check out the rest of this review. There are 11 episodes total!
@scottlagaly13895 жыл бұрын
Early 2000’s New Holland TC18 (and I am sure other models) have the positioning lever for the three point.
@diamondd88405 жыл бұрын
Don't buy a RK55 been waiting 4 MONTHS on a seal and oil return tube
@TheZipman345 жыл бұрын
Tim i'm a very happy viewer of both of y'all. I don't want to nitpick your opinion of both of these tractors but they're not both the same tractors , I did a lot of research on this before I bought mine . To compare them both the same you would have to go up to a Kubota B2301 to compared to your John Deere 1025r the loader have the same hydraulic lift on the 3 point hitch , That's the one I ended up buying Kubota B2301. The Kubota BX tractor is equal to the John Deere 1023e series . I'm sorry but that is an equal comparison to both of these tractors and I'm not a fanboy for Kubota. I think they're both great tractors in the real world deal this is true comparisons . Y'all keep doing the good works. "Make sure to eat a hamburger for me GOD BLESS" Chad
@Chris-pb3se4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my 1025r for 3 years and have always had green tractors. Not out of brand loyalty, just liked what they bring to the table. I tested a bx on my property before I bought the 1 series. The BX is an excellent machine, the JD just suited me better. Anyone who knocks Kubota doesn’t know what they’re talking about and vice versa. Without considering cost (obvious big deal) they are the best machines out there