Trading With the Jaguars (Kevin Costner Draft Scene) | Draft Day

[@jwal1992]

A top 6 pick for 3 2nd round picks is absurd

[@edwarddegalan107]

Depends on the #6 pick, but in most cases you're correct.

[@Marveryn]

@@edwarddegalan107 it is a good deal for the jag. they get to stockpile picks and if they see someone they like later in the first round they can use those 2's to trade back up. Losing your 3 first round on a qb your not sure off with a qb in your organization that can be good that season sound like hugely terrible trade. Especially in the last minute. they should already have the book on the guy and know he a sure thing Otherwise you be like the brown getting Deshawn watson or the viking for hershell. Some trades are just not worth it.

[@shaochiavang]

​@@Marveryn lmao no it isn't. #6 pick is never worth 3x 2nd rounders. The jaqs were better off trading that for 2 1st to any other team.

[@Mike-w3t3q]

@@shaochiavang

[@sportqcguy9630]

In real life yes, but by some of the point charts, it actually maths out...but hell no this wouldn't ever happen lol

[@bigsarge8795]

This is a really fun movie. Vonte getting drafted always gets me right in the feels

[@Dannerisms]

Probably bc we don't have Chadwick anymore 😔😭

[@jejbsh2191]

​@@Dannerismsdef not for that reason good riddance

[@timrichards8533]

I love this movie. I always watch it around draft time

[@feedthesnake3394]

"listen one team has to look like a fool in this movie. any suggestions" "how about jacksonville?" "any objections?" *silence*

[@FingrBlastr69]

"Three first round picks to get the guy I could've gotten all along." You are fired sir. That is the dumbest decision I have ever heard.

[@PapaLobo94]

GM’s that have won Super Bowls in the past have been fired for a lot worse than what this movie has portrayed

[@ralphyboy6996]

It's a movie not a documentary, nerd. Lighten up.

[@FirstLast-dm7hv]

It's the Browns. Of course it's dumb.

[@prollins6443]

Did you hear about the contract they gave Watson? Really the dumbest decision you ever heard of?

[@FingrBlastr69]

​@@prollins6443 Wow, good call. I didn't even need to leave the franchise to find a dumber decision. Well played.

[@PopOutPaulie]

They out here making bad madden trades let alone real life 😂😂

[@RD-zx6py]

Costner negotiates like Eric Cartman in this movie.

[@robertdascoli949]

Jeff, you're busting my balls here.

[@onothankyou]

Someone making a version of the movie with Cartman there would be amazing.

[@ben2058]

This could be a documentary for how the Browns are actually run in real life. The ineptitude in this movie is just hilarious.

[@phillipsouthard8285]

Realistic? Absolutely not. Enjoyable movie? Absolutely.

[@jimmymcfly9822]

The most unrealistic part is how the Browns fans are chanting “Super Bowl!” at the end.

[@djmohab2]

I dunno, the real-life Browns are pretty stupid

[@brianthompson6925]

Sad to say Browns fans chant Super Bowl after almost every win.

[@ruski2376]

This movie is super slept on. I really liked this movie

[@bigsarge8795]

Same here. One of my favorites

[@upandrunningappliancerepai8290]

I totally agree

[@ramonhernandez1623]

Me too

[@donovanvanert3713]

It sucks

[@mr.m4297]

Yea i liked it also but I'm a bit of a nerd I also liked Star Wars episode one cause it's also a nerd movie lol

[@jasonmiles1151]

This movie needs a sequel just so we can see how these draft picks paned out…. With the exception of Chadwick.

[@ADobbin1]

This movie is nearly 20 years old. They've all retired or injured out.

[@alp852]

@@ADobbin1your math ain’t mathing. This movie is from 2014.

[@chadhero37]

Bo Callihan is the only one left in the league (qbs have longer careers) and has 2 rings

[@igweugo]

It's definitely too long to worry about Chadwick in a sequel, but seeing how things played out for Bo Callahan could be interesting. Boseman could be noted as having a 6-8 year career, where he featured on the Browns defense (make him Miles Garrett), project out Stefanski having 2 of 4 winning seasons to make Cleveland a solid team that still didn't win it all, but tell the other story. Bo Callahan comes in, wins the Super Bowl in his second season, but as the team shifts towards leaning on him to carry the team, the team is never again quite good enough to actually make it back again. Make that "none of his teammates came to his birthday party" innuendo (I think folks tried to cover and he simply took the hit because he could) an actual crux point in the movie. Bo Callahan being a bad teammate and not a leader of men, ends up seeing him get an opportunity with a new team, and his new QB coach... Brian Drew, of Draft Day shenanigans fame. The QB with all the ability in the world without the leadership skills, learning from the QB coach who had the great leadership makeup in his time, who looked to max out whatever ability he did have in his time. Make it a redemption story for Bo Callahan.

[@renaldoawes2210]

They could do a movie where it's 10 years later, and most of the people here have been fired or retired since then.

[@puttums123456789]

Gms don't start scouting till an hour before the draft

[@jasongarbacz8899]

They don’t know the draft order past 4…

[@Kmkats]

@@jasongarbacz8899the part where he asked who’s picking 5th I was shocked haha

[@Freshy300]

@@Kmkats I think the, I don't know what are they called, screen writers? (or whoever writes the dialogs between characters in movies) did this mostly so the audience learns what is going on. Logically (and professionally), the people involved in these scenes should know exactly what is going on, but the audience doesn't. I have read many comments in various clips from this movies where people talk in very precise football language. I am not from the U.S. but I like watching American football games from time to time but I don't know much about the rules, the positions, etc. My knowledge of the sports basically boils down to each team having 4 attempts to move the ball 10 yards before refreshing the number of attempts and try to get it to the scoring zone. So for someone ignorant of the sport rules like myself, the movie did a good job entertaining me. However, I do like computer games and when I watch movies or TV shows where games are portrayed and I see obvious errors, I too react in the same way many football savvy watchers reacted to this movie. Bottomline, this is a movie, not a documentary.

[@Kmkats]

@ Totally understand being a non American and wanting to understand the game more. But I will say with this scene in particular there is a very easy way to not make the character look foolish within the world of real football while simultaneously making a effort to explain the scene with his dialogue. Rather then asking who was picking next which would be a fireable offense for a NFL GM not to k know, he could simply announce himself who’s picking next. Easy fix.

[@Freshy300]

@@Kmkats Gotcha

[@michaelfortenberry5735]

If this movie was real life, Carson wouldn't get to the parking lot with his job.

[@bbtrainerfish7124]

I watched this movie in the theater in Cincinnati with the family of the Browns GM at that time. I always thought it was funny that a sold out theater had no idea they were sitting with the actual Browns GM's family.

[@mike-mz6yz]

and then he went on to draft johnny football lol

[@Mr05Chuck]

Three future two’s for the number 6 ain’t ever gonna fly.

[@MEPieroni]

Especially when that pick is flipped for 3 future ones!

[@igweugo]

Value is value, 🤷🏾‍♂️. I don't fully understand how all those tables are figured out, but folks under this video have basically said that three 2nd round picks is basically worth about the #10 pick in the first round. No idea what the points value margin is between #10 and #6, but if you're avoiding drafting a QB you've been convinced is a lemon, that margin maybe insignificant

[@RDSports5]

@@igweugo Really well said. Plus, we've seen picks in the teens, not 6th overall, but not too far off either, go for two future 1's and a 3rd. I think 3 2nd rounders, and potentially HIGH 2nd rounders at that would be worth a, 11th or 12th pick, especially if you really wanted to move off it like you said

[@Weebs82589]

0:48 1. Browns LB Vontae Mack 2. Rams T Robert Anderson 3. Dolphins DE Patrick Palmer

[@thunderstormvideos6460]

I actually liked this movie. But I don't think it's very realistic. Who would give up the #6 pick for 3 second round picks? And why wouldn't you take BO just because some other GM said he thinks he's a bust?

[@Asdfasdf-k8v]

Carlsons a rookie 😂

[@ksh9504]

Love this flick

[@sinokomp]

It's nice to see that so many people enjoyed that movie too.

[@JamesGanote]

Remember what N.O. DID FOR Ricky?

[@dirtmcgirt9148]

It's funny how, in this universe, an NFL General Manager (even a "rookie") is portrayed as a heaving basket-case who's about to vomit on his shoes.

[@Seitanic_panic]

Did you see Giants season of Hardknocks? NFL front offices are a bunch of clueless bozos

[@alp852]

I think the Browns watched this movie and got pumped up to give Deshaun Watson… the worst contract in NFL history by a mile.

[@rogelioserna3762]

😂❤😂

[@RedMoxi]

Great movie for anyone who doesn't know anything about the NFL

[@willmpet]

American football-needless violence combined with committee meetings.

[@JSThriller]

The fact that he did this and complains about yellowstone astounds me

[@upandrunningappliancerepai8290]

If u love this movie that tells me u like madden franchise mode, build a team, and sim the season

[@nathanakers45]

The Rams pick #2 and "went with their expected pick" Meanwhile in Jax, sitting at #6..."The Rams took my pick! Everything's out of whack!" Turns out Carson IS a donkey

[@reidsal4042]

How I would have written it.... Allude to the fact Sonny had drafted a great return specialist a few years earlier. He keeps saying that he's the best return man in the game. Everyone says he's good but he's no David Putney. Fast-forward to this scene, and the Jags GM says I want three years of #2's AND your punt returner. They make the deal and Sonny gets Putney in the Seattle trade.

[@russell5475]

Never thought about it but those mins feel like hours to us fans but probably feel like seconds to GMs

[@crackingtheshell7959]

As soon as he makes that pick, nobody is ever trusting him or working with him ever again.

[@rholya]

Jags shouldve demanded a 5th rounder in that

[@denniszuniga7442]

Tony Khan doing deals lol

[@shadowsden]

Is Bo Callahan a Trevor Lawrence clone 😂? Jacksonville is probably going to be on their 3rd head coach after this season

[@johnniehobby]

I always wondered what Brad Bellick did before he became a corrections officer at Fox River.

[@MarkConolly-h8l]

not to mention Jon H Ryan

[@tommypoe3178]

The movie is fun. Stupid, but fun.

[@Dynasty1818]

Imagine getting drafted in the NFL and ending up playing for the Browns...you'd rather just say no.

[@lloydbiag9791]

Carson should have asked for an additional 3rd and 5th round pick that same draft.

[@WrongedSports]

This movie is fun but a trade for 3 years worth of 2nd round picks for a top 10 pick is outrageous. Maybe if there was another pick in the same year it might be fairer

[@Dannerisms]

It is, but remember... This movie was made almost 15 to 20 seasons ago, and the landscape has changed tremendously

[@Evil_Dan999]

Bo Lawrence.

[@johnwells8685]

No one in there right mind is exchanging a 6th for three 2nd rounders lol

[@TheSBleeder]

Jacksonville absolutely would.

[@ehmiller61]

It’s funny seeing a lot of the comments talk about how unrealistic it is somehow no GM would do this. It’s a movie and enjoy it for what it’s worth. I’ve watched it multiple times and love it.

[@thetruebause3122]

Most people cant enjoy movies if the plot only moves bc people are incredibly dumb...unless its a comedy...which is why people jokingly claim this is a comedy

[@philipkrolikowski4248]

I can think of 3 of his movies that are way better than this

[@Weebs82589]

3:00 Arizona chooses CB Robert Starks

[@josephfiala1719]

And Browns fams wonder why they cant have a winning football team

[@kellyperry4477]

a discount on adds is not getting paid to watch

[@Tmiller33]

Diddy being his agent probably didn't help

[@brendanallison4792]

In what universe is #33 and two future 2nd rounders for #6 overall a reasonable trade??? I get that JAX's GM is 'new' and that they are a bit of a clown organization. But how is a $B company hiring a group of people who are so inept with trade valuations? Bro looks around at his team and they're all like 'yep, sounds good to us!'🤦 This scene ruins the entire movie for me.

[@lyfewithpiglet582]

This happens all the time

[@brendanallison4792]

@lyfewithpiglet582 it LITERALLY never does. You can't point to a single example in the modern NFL of a team trading into the Top 10 without sending at least one 1st rounder back. 'It HaPpEnS aLl ThE tImE' 🤡

[@george-cherian]

I agree it's a wild trade but it would be the #39 pick and two future 2nd rounders since they traded up from #7 to#1, so it's somehow a worse trade than stated

[@igweugo]

Value chart currently puts the #6 pick at 1600, with a 2nd Rd pick 33-40 (bottom 8 team) worth 500+. Three 2nd Rd picks, for a bad team, should get you over the 1600 points (though still discount that for time). The value is close. ... and the move still gives the Jaguars GM two high 2nd Rd picks; enough draft chart value to package and get back in at #15 if need be for this season, with the chance the do the same to end up with two first round picks the year after, and the year after that... 🤷🏾‍♂️. Avoid the grenade at #6, to still be able to get back to #15 if you want, with the ammunition to add a mid-1st Rd pick in the two drafts after that

[@roidaids6501]

Dang man we didn’t know. What front office do you work for again?

[@jacobbelsky6533]

Brady was passed by 6 times and look how that turned out.

[@igweugo]

Brady was rightfully passed on all those times because of the player he was. Patriots drafted Adrien Klemn (OT), JR Redmond (RB), Greg Randall (OT), Dave Stachelski (TE), J'Juan Cherry (CB), Jeff Marriott (OG), and Antwan Harris (SS)... before drafting Tom Brady, as a compensatory 6th Rd pick no less. And looking back, Brady was the only QB (in a pretty crap QB class) to even profile as viably similar to the 6'5 230lb statue that was Drew Bledsoe

[@gnohms]

The movie is supposed to be about the 2014 draft, yet for some reason they keep using the draft boards from the 2013 draft, with the Ravens and 49r's having the last two picks since they were in the Super Bowl after the 2012 season. The movie doesn't even get what year it's set in right.

[@scg81790]

Maybe it was filmed mid season?

[@jrmagnum]

Ya, and ‘13 was when Bo Callahan was in the draft as well.

[@okenwa1983]

​@@jrmagnum this comment 🙌🙌

[@gnohms]

@@jrmagnum Yes, you have figured out that movies are allowed to make things up. The question was why they used the real draft board from a different year when they had this magical power to just put the teams on the board in any order they wanted to. The board is used several times throughout the movie, and it's used for no actual reason.

[@mobiz711]

Costner and Garner as BF and GF is borderline cringey.

[@ZachPfeiffer]

Just borderline?

[@Qtrademark]

Just like the Browns in real life

[@Dogleg1957]

Dukey Howser grows up to lead Jacksonville Jags into gutter for second rounders

[@jonathanward1263]

Why did you leave Yellowstone??

[@jimmymcfly9822]

Yeah. Let’s everybody pick on the Jaguars. Ha ha😅

[@friendme12345]

What's wrong with Callahan? Well ... Bo Callahan is an actor ... Not an actual NFL QB level athlete.

[@shaochiavang]

Yeah, 4 2nd rounders would had been more realistic

[@bryanl3659]

A team with an all pro qb is picking at 5 ?

[@thlee3]

did something like this really happen ? if so, who was the player/team this is about . and is this pretty realistic movie of how draft day is?

[@mobiz711]

I doubt this is realistic at all. The characters don't seem remotely realistic.

[@Marveryn]

as far as i know, No. No one traide 3 numbers 1 for an unproven players only to trades their 2's to get their 1 back. There been trades where people trades a two numbers one to move up on the draft for a qb. but not the wheeling and dealing done in this movie.

[@briNmessier]

The issue is its a football movie and the draft moves would never happen.

[@andrewfung9340]

John Diggle 1:20

[@randomguysays]

SPARTAN!!!

[@natman2939]

They made the Jaguars guy seem a little too green. Like come on.. no one is that stupid

[@PapaLobo94]

And yet, some of these current GM’s are shown to be incompetent with their draft picks and the way they run the organization down the road

[@brianthompson6925]

The guy who drafted Jamarcus Russell has entered the chat.

[@robertheadley3483]

Dumbest part of the movie. Somebody in the Jaguars room wouldve been telling him no way in hell. Also he makes that shitty trade without talking to any other team. Everybody sitting around asking themselves what to do. In real life they are all making calls.

[@thebreakdown7753]

In the real world Seattle trades up two spots with Denver.

[@Rockhound6165]

No self respecting GM would trade a top 10 pick for three 2nd rounders.

[@Marveryn]

i was about to comment that perhaps the patriots but they were never in the top 10 when they traded down. patriots always went for more picks and lower round players. I know a few frachise that had trade out of the top 10's but normally that was for number 1's. 3 numbers 2 should equal a number 1 am not sure its a bad deal. You still have your number one for the following years and those numbers 2 could later be use to trade back up.

[@Coco-qz7fn]

vontae davis gets picked number 1

[@marquespimentel3058]

But the brown should of drafted Bo Callaghan out of Wisconsin number pick

[@bentonbevel7768]

This is one of the most unrealistic sports movies ever made. The dialog is as far away from real as you can get

[@kheejulio8128]

You in the war rooms?

[@markgrimshaw6721]

@@kheejulio8128you don’t have to be. ‘Who’s picking 4th?’ You mean to tell me a GM wouldn’t know that when the order is set for months and even fans know who’s picking 4th in the seventh round?

[@toddwynn3397]

​@@markgrimshaw6721 My favorite part is when the Jaguars' GM is "out of whack" because the Rams picked who they were expected to pick. Then he freaks out because someone takes his backup choice. Do they not have a draft board?

[@olphatty1]

20+ years older than herm.... wtf

[@AMM-S]

Who tf picks a CB at 4th 😅🤣

[@vonhines3574]

That's pretty common actually

[@RayFinkle05]

John Dutton got real soft when he put on a shirt and tie.

[@olphatty1]

You wouldnt know jeff carson?

[@friendme12345]

The Browns are named after a white guy.

[@Mree17]

Yep. The Co Founder Paul Brown. He would later Co found the Bengals.

[@friendme12345]

@MidnightMoon2267 did not know that!

[@HarryDoyle1988]

The kid leaned on Sonny and Sonny took care of him. He took advantage of him, but he didn’t screw him.

[@BeauTylerMakesMusic]

People who are acting shocked that a movie isn't realistic is crazier than anything in this movie. 😂 Every movie unrealistic, you only realize it when its a topic you know well. Every time you fail to notice means you're just not knowledgeable on that subject 😂

[@SheevX66XPalpatine]

stop trying to be moneyball, also when did she start acting again lol

[@pearlsabianmarasigan2326]

This is because of p diddy

[@mrsnoopyaaaaa]

This movie was horrible. I gave it a zero on a scale of one to 10 stupid storyline just totally awful.

[@StevenJohnson906]

One movie Ken Costner regrets ever being in

[@diamondomnimedia1599]

This isn't WaterWorld lol

[@schwingtrader6101]

Easily one of the worst written movies in sports movie history, totally unrealistic dialogue and scenarios regarding drafting

[@nrxhavoc]

the browns suck and always will suck

[@rkwittem]

This movie is simply awful. I can never get through more than a few minutes without cringing

[@JLam305]

Then you have problems.

[@shaihulud7316]

The Browns are a clown car

[@sdsmt99]

Horrible script Horrible acting

[@ruski2376]

In your eyes. Not to me. I thought it looks great

[@bigsarge8795]

And yet you came here to comment about it

[@Sitework16]

Horrible scene and trade😂

[@bigsarge8795]

And yet you came here to comment about it

[@Sitework16]

@@bigsarge8795 I just watched the clip 🤣

[@WilliamRichmond-w3h]

This movie is hilariously stupid

[@brianthompson6925]

This movie is obviously unrealistic and I don't care, much. Of course every GM involved in the trades would be canned. I don't care. It's a guilty pleasure. I don't apologize.

[@jamesb5764]

It’s very cringy with the huge age gap between Kevin Costner and Jennifer Garner.

[@wv4776]

Does he appear in anything where he isn’t supposed to be completely irresistible to women and the ultimate badass? Everything I see him in he’s intimidating entire groups of grown men singlehandedly with a glare and a one liner and fending off every good looking woman in the universe like he has some kind of curse

[@brendanallison4792]

17 years. Still better than most of the women that Steven Segal casts to be his love interest in his straight to DVD trash. Ick.

[@BrutalSho]

Age gap ? Is that what you got from this whole clip ? Go outside bruh

[@localneo-graphic4647]

Man what a garbage movie.

[@KenAdams-mb9fw]

Kevin Costner is the laziest actor ever, mfer just can't act.

[@derekbidelman2442]

Detroit has that rookie GM..whats his name..Brad Holmes..🫢🤫 we can fleece him boss.... Hey boss, Brad Holmes from the Lions is on the line.... Cut scene to the Green Mile and Tom Hanks is walking between the cells,camera shifts to John Coffee: ..careful boss..careful...he's A...bad man...