Traditional Catholic Monks of Papa Stronsay, Scotland

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18 жыл бұрын

Excerpt from a documentary series featuring the Transalpine Redemptorist monks of Papa Stronsay, Scotland - a congregation of traditionalist Catholic Fathers and Brothers of both Eastern and Western Rite from all over the world. The documentary was filmed in September 2003 and originally aired on Channel 4 (UK) in 2004.
The congregation was founded in 1988 by Fr Michael Mary and Fr Anthony Mary on the advice of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. Their aim was to found a new Redemptorist congregation which observed the original Rule of Saint Alphonsus and ignored the reforms adopted by modern Redemptorists following the Second Vatican Council.
The congregation moved from the Isle of Sheppy in Kent, England, to Papa Stronsay in 1999. The island was considered ideal because of its seclusion from the world and ancient connection with the monastic tradition. As well as producing their own newspaper, the monks raise their own cattle and sheep and they produce most of their own food.
For more information visit:
www.papastronsay.com

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@seaghanobuadhaigh8240
@seaghanobuadhaigh8240 7 жыл бұрын
Thank God there are still men on this earth who generously answer God's call to forsake everything that the world would have us aspire to, and point the way to heaven.
@igorstein5616
@igorstein5616 6 жыл бұрын
These are the Power Houses of Prayer
@williamwallace2278
@williamwallace2278 5 жыл бұрын
I was initially drawn to the Franciscan order, but my school master said I would be wasted. Would only be put forward to the Jesuit or Benedictine order. However decided this life was not for me.
@jamesbradshaw3389
@jamesbradshaw3389 2 жыл бұрын
Those people pray for all the people of this world, they deeply care about everyone, they are like the best solar system that will ever exist, they are in direct contact with the true power source God and will only do good for all men, women and children of our world
@francoisekremers
@francoisekremers Ай бұрын
indeed
@lunarmodule9915
@lunarmodule9915 7 жыл бұрын
I just recently heard of this order of monks and where they live. I thank God there are places like this. I think their prayers probably do more for the salvation of mankind than what the material world can ever offer.
@joywisdom6598
@joywisdom6598 6 жыл бұрын
Infinite Wisdom Amen to that 😉!!!
@chusorodriguez5120
@chusorodriguez5120 4 жыл бұрын
Tiene usted razon.
@edwinrivera8449
@edwinrivera8449 8 жыл бұрын
I too was in tears. Only 24 hours and he was so touched. Imagine a month. This was an awesome find. I am in the beginning point of my life to enter in the monastic life. If it is GODS plan... I wish to become a monk.
@jimmymaxwell11
@jimmymaxwell11 6 жыл бұрын
Would love an update on your discernment, and would be pleased to pray for you. Thank you for your vocation! I pray one of my children will follow in your footsteps.
@nenabunena
@nenabunena 6 жыл бұрын
I was affected how touched he was as well. I wonder how I would fair in a similar cloistered environment with nuns (since I'm a girl), I'm rather vain, lazy, and love to sleep and procrastinate but I also enjoy quiet, meditative, and introspective things. I also noticed when I was taking my grad studies in archaeology, during field work where we had a strict timeline/schedule to follow, daily for 2 months, I thrived and felt so healthy more than I ever felt in my life. We left for our hike at 5am, got to the site at 6am, dug until 5pm (w/ lunch and an hour's rest bec of the scorching sun), got back at 6pm and lined up for our baths until we had dinner at 8pm, and a day's recap on the dig site until 10/10:30pm. And finally went to sleep by 12md. And what's strange is I usually need 8-9hrs sleep/day, but during my field trips and the strict schedule, the 5hrs was more than sufficient and I felt invigorated by it somehow.
@Peter-tr7gg
@Peter-tr7gg 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you Edwin
@Randolph1233
@Randolph1233 2 жыл бұрын
@jody . Benedictine convent in Largs is a prayerful community. Jesus the Saviour be our companion.
@GodSeesAll2023
@GodSeesAll2023 2 жыл бұрын
A beautiful life A blessed life An eternal life ✨💛❤ AMEN 🙏
@sandyquinones2458
@sandyquinones2458 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen and enjoyed this documentary many times. It is incredible to watch the resistance he had in the beginning until the gift of the Holy Rosary. It was the Blessed Mother who touched his heart ❤️.
@andreschivel8116
@andreschivel8116 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you my sister, I just cannot believe it. God touched his heart a lot.
@LVpops
@LVpops 10 ай бұрын
I agree, the best part of this short film is the ending. You hit it on the nose with your comment. I actually shed a tear myself. May God bless us and help us and may the Virgin Mary protect us. Amen.
@joywisdom6598
@joywisdom6598 6 жыл бұрын
Shame on those who gave a thumbs down. Lots of love for you 🙏😇💝
@theresaclancy6091
@theresaclancy6091 4 жыл бұрын
Only the pure of heart can see Truth and Love ❤️
@SeanChitty84
@SeanChitty84 6 жыл бұрын
Blessed be the Holy Name of Jesus and Praise be to His Sacred Heart.
@Oblationem
@Oblationem 18 жыл бұрын
He's hooked! He just doesn't know it yet. Thank God for these wonderful holy monks. A beautiful video...
@KurtGodel432
@KurtGodel432 6 жыл бұрын
I spent two weeks there a few years ago and it was absolutely brutal. Those men are made of steel. Their reward in heaven will be great indeed.
@rogerhartley6324
@rogerhartley6324 5 жыл бұрын
Kurt Gödel u
@tonethetallbaldy5039
@tonethetallbaldy5039 3 жыл бұрын
I visited the monastery for a couple of days and nights a few years ago. Wonderful location. Just getting there seemed a penance!
@scottcraig77
@scottcraig77 5 жыл бұрын
These visitors had such a blessing. I cried with them. Their spirits were woken after just 1 day in the presence of God within these Godly men. God bless you all. x
@billybob-bj3nw
@billybob-bj3nw 7 жыл бұрын
I do hope this man found God eventually :)
@psychedelicpython
@psychedelicpython 5 жыл бұрын
billy bob I was just thinking that tonight as I watched this. I’m hoping the Rosary might help him as well.
@edallai
@edallai 17 жыл бұрын
What an incredibley beautiful, edifying video. As a hermitess living in suburban Massachusetts it really lifts me up!!! God Bless, Ave Maria
@Gypseygirls
@Gypseygirls Жыл бұрын
God bless
@nunya6439
@nunya6439 9 жыл бұрын
I sorely want to visit this place.
@lincolncity9
@lincolncity9 9 жыл бұрын
I visited a couple f years ago. I highly recommend!
@emmanjing
@emmanjing 8 жыл бұрын
+lincolncity9 . i want to visit. how do i go about doing it?
@lincolncity9
@lincolncity9 8 жыл бұрын
+Manjing C Write a letter to the guest master asking if you can visit. The address is on their web site. Depending on where you are located getting there can be a challenge but quite straightforward. I'll be happy helping you plan your journey. All the best!
@emmanjing
@emmanjing 8 жыл бұрын
am in Phoenix. my email is ec1125@gmail.com. I go to Mater Misericordiae Mission for the daily Latin mass
@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251
@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251 4 жыл бұрын
@@lincolncity9 Are they SSPX monks?
@robbeale
@robbeale 17 жыл бұрын
what memories. i stayed with them on an island hop in late 2004. amazing people in an amazing place.
@mudgebauer
@mudgebauer 9 жыл бұрын
There is a Monastery in Big Sur, California called New Camaldolise Hermitage that is just like this on in Scotland. The live a very austere life as well.
@lincolncity9
@lincolncity9 11 жыл бұрын
I visited last summer for 2 nights, wonderful thanks to the community there. An oasis in a crazy world.
@zaphodtrillian
@zaphodtrillian 9 жыл бұрын
After the heresy and apostasy of calvinism these men will save Scotland with their example and love.
@guilhermesazonov
@guilhermesazonov 9 жыл бұрын
Heresy is your words! Calvin like Luther and so others before them challenged people like you who tramped over the Holy Scriptures, putting a filthy corruption institution above God Himself.
@zaphodtrillian
@zaphodtrillian 9 жыл бұрын
sa gui learn to spell and write in English
@guilhermesazonov
@guilhermesazonov 9 жыл бұрын
Learn to spell and write in any language....not to mention your misguided beliefs, a testimony of your dumbness ;p
@zaphodtrillian
@zaphodtrillian 9 жыл бұрын
sa gui grow up, You hate Catholics, that is your problem not mine
@guilhermesazonov
@guilhermesazonov 9 жыл бұрын
Me? Never. I love Catholics. You should grow up. You hate the Truth. As simple as that.
@ardentfire3956
@ardentfire3956 6 жыл бұрын
While I was watching this I looked up my name on google after they referenced taking on the name of saints. I figured out that I was named after Saint Aidan of Lindisfarne, the Irish monk who restored Christianity to Northumbria. I never knew where my name came from, and it was absolutely amazing to learn this about myself. It seems almost providential.
@sallydarley9812
@sallydarley9812 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! SS_777 Yes, but let it be known that Saint Aiden of Lindisfarne INTRODUCED the Gospel to Northumbria. Up until then, the leaders and their followers were pagans. All the land was forest so, people used boats to travel around the coast.
@RachelleMoore-gb5zr
@RachelleMoore-gb5zr 9 ай бұрын
​Beautiful
@parallelpinkparakeet
@parallelpinkparakeet 16 жыл бұрын
What an amazing experience! I bet he'll never forget that.
@albywhitelady
@albywhitelady 3 жыл бұрын
This life is simply beautiful!!!!!!! 😍 😍 😍 😍
@stancan2
@stancan2 15 жыл бұрын
I love this video ! "Blessed are the peacemakers; for they shall inherit the world"
@Gypseygirls
@Gypseygirls Жыл бұрын
God bless 🙌 🙏
@wife97
@wife97 5 жыл бұрын
The first time I watched this, I didn't realize that Adam Nicolson is the grandson of Harold Nicolson and Vita Sackville-West (he looks like his grandma). He is good natured and amusing, and he's able to relate to the monks, even though he doesn't share their faith. A lovely episode!
@donmulligan5512
@donmulligan5512 6 жыл бұрын
Simply wonderful and beautiful
@matijustus4774
@matijustus4774 5 жыл бұрын
we monks are blessed by God in different ways, please let us maintain our spirit of prayer and our monastic traditions.
@spiriitualemergency3
@spiriitualemergency3 11 жыл бұрын
Why had that last scene bring tears to my eyes
@KSudbury
@KSudbury 15 жыл бұрын
A beautiful and inspiring film.
@vanhecht
@vanhecht 14 жыл бұрын
@Rabbitpen I spent Dec 30-Jan 2 in San Antonio. I saw the TAR at the Alamo, from a distance, and was fascinated by their attire/habits. I then was at St Mary's Catholic Student Center at Texas A&M in College Station and I ran into the very same gentlemen. i went and spoke with them and was very pleased to meet such representatives from such an order. I believe it was God's doing that I had the privilege to see them twice in a weeks time in two distant cities. It was divine providence.
@joannajones8533
@joannajones8533 5 жыл бұрын
this guy is So funny!! Its such a delight to watch how he reacts to the various things he sees around him...he is so honest and child-like in his reactions - it's a pleasure to watch - he looks looks totally out of his depth :) and yet he carries on :) he reminds me so much of me in such situations! :)
@gcv980
@gcv980 10 жыл бұрын
Their lives are like a perpetual Catholic retreat. You really have to have God's calling to live like this. It's not for everyone
@StudentofClassicalMusic
@StudentofClassicalMusic 8 жыл бұрын
Quite interesting! I really enjoyed this. thanks for sharing!
@hermitruben4032
@hermitruben4032 3 жыл бұрын
From Misión Cruz Hermitage in Somerset, TEXAS. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen
@anthonyl2886
@anthonyl2886 4 жыл бұрын
I stayed there for a few days a few years ago. Beautiful community. Hope to return one day.
@jasonevanbaldwin9922
@jasonevanbaldwin9922 6 жыл бұрын
Been there, done that... in October 2009... Cool place, nicest people...
@loggats
@loggats 12 жыл бұрын
thank God these monks are keeping the unbroken faith alive.
@jackhughes3981
@jackhughes3981 7 жыл бұрын
the look on Father's face as 13:11 ....... priceless
@LarrySassyMochi
@LarrySassyMochi 5 жыл бұрын
God bless all of you.
@susiefromomaha
@susiefromomaha 16 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honesty. I've recently returned to the CC. I have friends who are atheists and agnostics. I think this video is a great example of being 'tolerant' of others, even if we don't always understand each other. Monks and cloistered nuns are definitely answering the call of God to pray for all of us. For peace in our hearts to then change our world. PAX and bless you.
@ZiraRisasi
@ZiraRisasi 3 жыл бұрын
Late welcome back from me I guess
@susiefromomaha
@susiefromomaha 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZiraRisasi Thank you Zira Risasi. It's been a great time and trying time, but I'd not be anything but Catholic now. God bless.
@mariemiller8740
@mariemiller8740 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you Susie Melkus welcome back home
@user-tc2ww7pq4f
@user-tc2ww7pq4f Жыл бұрын
When I feel bad I just like to watch this and I feel better .
@henrikhankhagnell
@henrikhankhagnell 12 жыл бұрын
Laudetur Jesus Christus! I would really like to visit these beautiful traditional Catholic persons. May God bless them with many vocations.
@robertwaguespack9414
@robertwaguespack9414 4 жыл бұрын
What a great joy
@GrumpyOldTroll
@GrumpyOldTroll 17 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the inspiring video.
@FostersBLUE
@FostersBLUE 13 жыл бұрын
award worthy --thank you for this .
@benaggreyfynn
@benaggreyfynn 17 жыл бұрын
The Greatness of God is second to none. Our God is Holy and Great, so the few that He chooses to be monks must be Holy and special ; And they are. They are holy individuals. God uses them to pray for the world and even more holy services to this world. May God bless them all, always. Amen. Thanks for sharing this beautiful and inspiring video. Well done.
@PanSzawu
@PanSzawu 6 жыл бұрын
Very similar to the Orthodox in their manner, very beautiful.
@theresaclancy6091
@theresaclancy6091 4 жыл бұрын
Only the pure of heart can see Truth and Love ❤️
@garciadelacadena
@garciadelacadena 16 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the producers of this video, this is one of the reasons I give thanks to God for opening my eyes and preserve me in the true faith. God has mysterious ways to guide the man, and this one is very peculiar since Adam is an Atheist (maybe not anymore). By the end of the visit it was obvious that he was touched by what he observed and experienced. Viva Cristo Rey, Viva la Virgen de Guadalupe!!!
@chusorodriguez5120
@chusorodriguez5120 4 жыл бұрын
Conmovedor y bello. Fe y Amor para todos.
@omahoneyd
@omahoneyd 9 жыл бұрын
would like to visit and have a experience of my soul.This makes you face the nothingness of yourself
@mariec9446
@mariec9446 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video.
@lamentabili
@lamentabili 16 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. This community is working out their relationship with Rome and will be just fine. Very impressive.
@gregorydsouza1895
@gregorydsouza1895 5 жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ and mother Mary
@donatio1
@donatio1 4 жыл бұрын
Watching from kenya .. I had tears rolling down my face in the end. Did you become catholic?
@Chandransingham
@Chandransingham 2 жыл бұрын
What a moving story. God bless them and keep them safely.
@boomalat
@boomalat 15 жыл бұрын
They had been affiliated with SSPX but are now reconciled with the Roman Catholic Church after petitioning the Holy See . In June 2008, Pope Benedict XVI accepted their petition and declared them in "canonical good standing" within the Roman Catholic Church. After this, their official name was changed to The Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer (F.SS.R.) and officially a new congregation was setup by the church hierarchy. They now have a monastery in New Zealand as well.
@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251
@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251 4 жыл бұрын
Great....
@nathanielfabular9981
@nathanielfabular9981 4 жыл бұрын
Viva Iglesiya Katolika Apostolika Romana greetings from the 3rd most catholic country in the world, Philippines 🇵🇭
@xanh01
@xanh01 10 жыл бұрын
I for sure believe he will become a catholic or he will come back to that island and becomes a monk.
@warwickchuck1
@warwickchuck1 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best
@chrism.c.9784
@chrism.c.9784 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up with two Newfoundland dogs. AMAZING animals!
@psychedelicpython
@psychedelicpython 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this video a few times over time but I’m not exactly sure why. It started to play on “Autoplay” after I video I was watching today and for some reason, out of curiosity, I looked up Adam Nicolson on Google because he’s an author to see what he’s written. I found a very interesting video he did for National Geographic on The King James Bible that’s on KZbin (which I don’t read but I do read the Douay Rheims version and I don’t recommend the King James Bible because it’s a Protestant bible and not Catholic) but it’s quite entertaining to watch (because of Adam Nicolson who has a great sense of humor) and it’s quite educational. He goes through the history of several versions of the Protestant bibles and perhaps one can learn quite a bit.
@anthonyl2886
@anthonyl2886 4 жыл бұрын
The Knox Bible is a wonderful Catholic version.
@musicandbooklover-p2o
@musicandbooklover-p2o 4 жыл бұрын
If it's of any help Dom Benedict, Father sub-Prior at my local priory, prefers the King James Bible over the Catholic one. The language is more poetic. I attend a new priory which observes the original Latin Mass and follows the rites of St. Benedict, including the 3am Matins. The monks cone from the US, UK, Australia, Spain, Canada, Ireland, Denmark. There are 16 now and they are struggling to build cells fast enough to take in those who want to join.
@vadermasktruth
@vadermasktruth 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@garciadelacadena
@garciadelacadena 16 жыл бұрын
They've never left the Church, they believe what the church has believed for centuries. The modernists are the ones that have left the Church and they are the ones that should come back to the true faith. Viva Cristo Rey, Viva La Virgen de Guadalupe!!!
@musicandbooklover-p2o
@musicandbooklover-p2o 4 жыл бұрын
I must have been led to this. I have been dreaming recently of founding a community set in the traditions of the first monks. Problem, I am married and female, but I can't help but wonder what God is trying to tell me. His Will Be Done. Deo Gratias.
@anthonylangford7797
@anthonylangford7797 Жыл бұрын
Have you founded your dream community yet? Be interesting to learn. Bless you
@chadrichards3802
@chadrichards3802 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Cummins is such a good teacher
@Dauphin35
@Dauphin35 15 жыл бұрын
Orientation together towards the liturgical east and silent, reverent prayer are some of the most laudable aspects of the Church's liturgical tradition. Nothing was lost in the Church's lex orandi at any time in its history. The Traditional Latin Mass communicates the "eschatological implications" with perfect clarity. The reality that the Eucharist is a meal is not in some way diminished by recognizing its principal reality as a true and perfect sacrifice offered for the remission of sins.
@Kalyna777
@Kalyna777 15 жыл бұрын
Oh, my Dearest Fathers and Brothers! They are my friends!
@irishjock33
@irishjock33 15 жыл бұрын
I have lost all belief in God, but not good people. This video has made a big difference in my life. Thank you.
@tttdrr2293
@tttdrr2293 4 жыл бұрын
Silence wipes away the passions.
@murph1272
@murph1272 18 жыл бұрын
That was one of the most incredibly beautiful thing I have ever seen. Thank you so much for posting it. Was this on TV in Britain or something?
@anthonyl2886
@anthonyl2886 4 жыл бұрын
Part of a series about him visiting and travelling around northern Britain.
@hollywoodartchick
@hollywoodartchick 16 жыл бұрын
This is a really lovely glimpse into the lives of men of God. It may not be everyone's way of life, but it is reassuring to know that some people on the spiritual path find their heaven on earth...and heaven within.
@robmorgan3842
@robmorgan3842 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the presenter ever found God? You can see he was deeply touched and I think the Holy Spirit was doing what he does. I pray that he did.
@Cathain78
@Cathain78 13 жыл бұрын
Looking through the comments, there seem to be a lot of haters. Ignorant people, despisers of Christ and his Church.....I think this must be one of the greatest ringing endorsements that Traditional Catholics can recieve. If the world persecutes and reviles you as it did with Christ, then you must be doing something right. I have a lot of time for Traditional Catholics. They go against the flow to do what they believe is truly right, in an unselfish way.
@ugoibeawuchi28
@ugoibeawuchi28 2 жыл бұрын
God bless our Priests
@michaelcalgaro9892
@michaelcalgaro9892 7 жыл бұрын
God bless
@Catholicnerd
@Catholicnerd 16 жыл бұрын
Now that they have returned to peaceful and undisputed communion with the Holy Father, it'd be an excellent idea to contribute to their support. We desperately NEED their intercession. Details on how to help them are available at their website.
@qijiy
@qijiy 7 ай бұрын
This is true happiness
@Dauphin35
@Dauphin35 15 жыл бұрын
I haven't been talking about Latin, although I think the "verbal veil" of a sacred language helps facilitate an encounter with mystery. Latin sets the liturgy apart, making it more than a pedestrian "prayer meeting". The point about continuity isn't that a particular language is absolutely necessary. No serious traditionalist would make such an argument. I'm referring to the theology of the Mass and the substance of the prayer, which must not be changed or diluted.
@Awakeninghumanzombies247
@Awakeninghumanzombies247 Жыл бұрын
Interesting..... 🐍👽👾🎅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@cheesemonkey1990
@cheesemonkey1990 14 жыл бұрын
good to know.
@happykatkat
@happykatkat 15 жыл бұрын
All "living" languages evolve. "Mad" was the word for "crazy" in Shakespeare's time. Now it means "angry." Latin is only "dead" in terms of evolution, but the great benefit is that what Latin words and phrases meant hundreds of years ago still means the same today. Preserving true meaning! God does not favor one language over the other. Latin is the official language of the Church and is tied with tradition, reverence, and beauty--now who wouldn't want to pray with such a beautiful language?
@berniefleming2766
@berniefleming2766 3 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@Dee-ur9zq
@Dee-ur9zq 7 жыл бұрын
why is this video taken down? can anybody tell me how i can access it?
@brecans
@brecans 12 жыл бұрын
So is everything ok now between the monks and Rome?
@toddstevens6608
@toddstevens6608 6 жыл бұрын
brecans yes
@donbrashsux
@donbrashsux 2 жыл бұрын
God what a place to live
@marycarr7004
@marycarr7004 4 жыл бұрын
I signed up my loved ones for masses offered with them. It’s been over a month and have not heard back. They don’t have email. With this C19, I heard the USPS is in disarray for international mail. It would be nice if you could send requests and payments online.
@sebathadah1559
@sebathadah1559 3 жыл бұрын
because KZbin is back to being superleftycensorlord they deleted my link to the Transalpine Redemptorist's channel. Search these guys up they upload daily.
@stmichael71
@stmichael71 15 жыл бұрын
I'm happy these folks rejoined the Catholic Church. They display, I think, real holiness - and that leads you right back to Jesus and the Body of Christ with its vicar.
@thewayoutisin
@thewayoutisin 15 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a lay person like myself gets a chance to live here temporarily just for the experience.
@rachelhilla8556
@rachelhilla8556 5 жыл бұрын
❤❤
@ashpod84
@ashpod84 13 жыл бұрын
@TheEcumenator Deo Gratias
@levi199120
@levi199120 12 жыл бұрын
can anyone tell me which documentary this is from?
@Dauphin35
@Dauphin35 16 жыл бұрын
Yes, being in Communion with the Holy See is fundamentally untraditional.
@phillipsimpson3359
@phillipsimpson3359 10 жыл бұрын
bboyfff, The bagpipes are still very much in use in New Hampshire AND Massachusetts... perhaps with such an appreciative declaration of concern on your own part, you yourself take it up!?!?! I bet you'd be brilliant and most admirable musician, indeed! Nothing stirs me MORE than the Bagpipes! :)
@TheAntiV
@TheAntiV 12 жыл бұрын
@Oblationem As well as in personal correspondence, the ICRC has addressed this misrepresentation by several other means. In 1975, the ICRC wrote to the Board of Deputies of British Jews in London regarding Harwood's citations, stating: The figures cited by the author of the booklet are based upon statistics falsely attributed to us, evidently for the purpose of giving them credibility, despite the fact that we never publish information of this kind.
@alveolate
@alveolate 15 жыл бұрын
this presumes that both sides believe that "weighing" DOES give the actual weight of the table. it still involves a measure of faith or trust in the weighing machine, the person doing the weighing, and how to interpret the weighing. the difference is that we AGREE quite easily on how weighing works, but we do NOT agree on how to "measure" the existence/indicators of the spiritual realm.
@Rosary153
@Rosary153 2 ай бұрын
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@spiriitualemergency3
@spiriitualemergency3 11 жыл бұрын
So Is that why I have always had too many choices presented and carried out none and so lead adrift. Yet there was one choice that was underpinning all. Or is it a Choice?
@redheadfo847
@redheadfo847 16 жыл бұрын
becasue eternity is now. not past, not future, now!
@Doodsm
@Doodsm 17 жыл бұрын
"Trent, even gives emphasis that grace(salvation)is not merited." my mistake... erase that..
@andreschivel8116
@andreschivel8116 Жыл бұрын
I have seen how God can touch a heart without faith, but in the end Mary get him to God.
@Dauphin35
@Dauphin35 15 жыл бұрын
Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi. The Law of Prayer is the Law of Faith. How the Church prays is central to her mission, and to the preservation of the Apostolic faith. Although the Latin language and externals of the Mass are important, they're not central to it. This is a matter of the theology the Mass reflects, and its continuity with the Church's Tradition. If our prayer is fundamentally different than before, we can have no confidence that we carry on the same faith as our ancestors.
@andrjsh
@andrjsh 13 жыл бұрын
I have been a traditionalist and it has worth, but without the inner spiritual (and psychological) change, all the chants, schedules, prayers, and historic decorations is an elaborate hobby.
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