Tradwives are selling us a one-way ticket to ~delululand~

[@ambersummer2685]

I’m sorry Pearl doesn’t deserve to be lumped in the trad wife club. She hardly lives the life style she preaches.

[@msunje9862]

Right, I don’t agree with many of tradwives points however at least they are not hypocrite as they live the life they preach. But Pearl has her company and career woman while promoting submissive trad wive lifestyle

[@angiedoe597]

Pearl is an opportunistic fraud. Not to mention she’s a giant hypocrite who does not practice what she preaches. Nothing she says has any value.

[@ambersummer2685]

@@msunje9862 Also notice how these trad women make their focus audience being like minded women with the purpose of helping other women embracing femininity including themselves being amongst other women while Pearl spends her time in hostile masculine environments. How often is she around feminine women when she’s always working around and being masculine to stay on top in her career? She doesn’t have time to be an ideal woman.

[@abrvalg321]

Pearl is a chameleon.

[@MajesticFerret]

Facts. Pearl is a pick me that can't even get picked. Estee just likes to look like Marilyn Monroe and wear dresses and can pull off the look, so figured out she could get TikTok famous by posting herself doing random crap online as long as she looks the way she does. She already got picked, and could get picked again no problem, she probably just likes the online attention and men telling her how hot she is (which has little to do with anything "trad" tbh, being a young pretty blonde with big fake boobs will do that for you).

[@jenniferclemons4766]

Even when women didn't do work outside of their homes through history, the work was much different. Medieval peasant women made their entire family's clothes from unprocessed wool, gardened with their husbands, and spent two hours per day grinding grain for bread.

[@annmarieknapp]

Basically, women have had a raw deal for millenia.

[@user-lt1jd1ye3v]

Honestly everyone was so poor back then everyone was starving tbh. Except for the rich

[@ayomidedareabel5525]

Yeah and they got payed less compared to men in the same field. They still suffered the​ consequencesof not having rights and being with controlling husbands @@billbradley4878

[@cookiecake6144]

Women have always been working outside the home through history! People were so poor that everyone had to work, including children. Only rich women were able to sit at home all day. And even they had to do work to hold up their husbands' relations in business or were in charge of all the house staff.

[@jenniferclemons4766]

@@billbradley4878 I'm talking about the reality of poor peasant or farming women who did not work outside the home (and neither did their husbands) but that even in those cases, women's work was much different than that of a woman with modern conveniences like electricity, indoor plumbing, milled grains, access to store bought meat and dairy, etc.

[@deezed6478]

Lmao Pearl is the queen of the pickmes and she’s still not even picked

[@ayomidedareabel5525]

Lol I heard she dated a broke dude and he left her for a better looking woman. Pearl is just a walking contradiction. She isn't what she preaches women should be. She's just doing it for money. I do feel and for her though she has been through a lot and she wasn't always like this

[@paramorefanaddict]

Who the hell would pick her?

[@madeleineclark283]

I completely and utterly agree. She's done everything she can to degrade herself, even give away her right to vote, and it still hasn't worked. She fat shames other women and calls them ugly, but doesn't do much to enhance her own sex appeal or tone her body at all. The traditional misogynistic men that she is trying to appeal to will most likely never find her attractive because she is 6 feet tall and not sexy or feminine at all. I'm confused as to why she doesn't prioritize her own appearance more when she clearly understands that appearance is important to men and openly shames other women for gaining weight. She doesn't practice what she preaches, which is why the misogynistic men she idolizes like Andrew Tate do not want her. The only fans models he surrounds himself with are usually plastered with elaborate makeup, (and half naked) and she can't even be bothered to wear flattering stylish clothes. Or hair extensions or any number of things Christian conservative women use to doll themselves up. She obviously doesn't understand these men as well as she thinks she does or she'd have one, right?

[@cocolove9916]

@@ayomidedareabel5525lmfaoo 😂

[@leila_de_hautjardin]

According to her own logic, she's no longer marriage material because she's no longer a virgin. 😅 Also she say women should be traditionally feminine but she doesn't put a lot of effort in her looks.

[@kylaarmstrong-benjamin8066]

I'm sure a lot of men will say they want that..... But do they realize they're the ones that are going to have to pay for all her pretty dresses, shoes, make up, nails done, hair styled, hair products, skin care, gym membership etc so she can stay looking like a living doll?

[@thepragmatist]

That's a great point.

[@stur5252]

Yup, looking like that costs time, money and effort.

[@jenbodhi1133]

No, they don’t think that far ahead

[@deirdremorris9234]

No they wont. It takes a logical mind to think ahead into the future. Dont forget a nanny.

[@neigeepierrot4694]

They don’t 😅

[@thepragmatist]

I'm still watching this video but wanted to stop and comment on Pearl from Just Pearly Things. I did a little bit of research on her because a guy I knew recommended her to me. Five to seven years ago, she did not have the viewpoint she is espousing on social media. In my opinion, Pearl is controlled by her management company. When Kevin Samuels died, there was a gap in the red pill manosphere, which Pearl stepped in to help fill. What people need to realize is many individuals like Pearl are basically actors filling a role for likes, clicks, and (ultimately) income. When I discussed my research with the guy who recommended Pearl, he went ballistic. He did not want to hear what I had to say, which I found interesting. Pearl definitely caters to a MGTOW/incel crowd of angry men who, for whatever reason, have not been successful in their relationships with women. She allows these types of men to shift the blame to women so they don't have to look at themselves or take any responsibility.

[@bfbmain]

Yes, all of this! It's all an act for views/attention, sadly.

[@thepragmatist]

Exactly.@@bfbmain

[@stur5252]

She is so stylized, but some people seem to eat it right up.

[@deirdremorris9234]

Pearly is unmarried. No other info needed.

[@akiram6609]

It’s all a grift. If she really believed what she preaches, she’ll move to Afghanistan and the life she wants.

[@AdrienneJung.M]

What changed the family dynamic was not the fact that women left the home. It was the fact that WORK left the home thanks to the Industrial Revolution. Historically, the entire family worked at home together. After industrialization, everyone moved to the city, work left the home, then men, then women, and public education was primarily invented to occupy the kids until they could join the workforce

[@aprilchow-chee5281]

Wow this sounds like a whole system glossed over and glamorized as the norm to strategize slavery

[@spark300c]

finally a women who understands. Not all men want trad wives because how much stress it put them under.

[@AdrienneJung.M]

@@spark300c I think the sad part is that the family is supposed to work and learn side by side close to home. But an industrialized society makes that difficult and forces everyone into isolation

[@Snejana21]

Snapsnapsnap yeas this is..Soc 101, to the roots of the beginning of our societal issues n structures. Well said.

[@edmondopowell]

Manufacturing left and now importing the third world isn’t gonna help either. But when they left women were entering the workforce mostly to the corps that were left and that’s brought cheaper labour in and higher costs of living. Then childcare was the nail in the coffin. Men have adapted to it doe and many gone overseas instead finding better ways of living. But women have not they still want both and expect privalage and it’s completely unrealistic

[@ST-rj8iu]

Cooking and Cleaning a home has to happen regardless. 🧐

[@bfbmain]

Lmaoo exactly!

[@jenbodhi1133]

Exactly

[@CaroLI-lh2re]

Yes! Very true!

[@arletbode4847]

Doesn’t always happen bc both are so exhausted

[@anastasiya8314]

Statistically during marriage it falls on the woman to do though. Even with a full time job most of the time. It’s one of the main reasons for women filing for divorce nowadays.

[@JuliaShalomJordan]

I’m a trad wife and I don’t dress up to clean the house…nor do any of my trad friends…the stuff on tik tok is so unrealistic. It’s Cosplay.

[@Mira-gu6we]

I mean I have a toddler to care for. I look haggard lol. Aint nobody got time to cake on makeup.

[@LoveYourself-my9nz]

A homemaker is a better word when you choose to be a housewife or househusband, trad wife is more like these women who thinks that's what a women job and only a man can be head of the family, women's needs to be submissive and all that bs.

[@theusareview7960]

Maybe u should go idk.. work then

[@Beeatrix]

The problem is people think it's real. And they don't say it's fake. They are toxic humans. Perpetually condemning women to never be seen as a partner just property. I hope these platforms ban these accounts personally.

[@missxmarvel]

You're still your husbands property.

[@patty-pat-pat]

I want to see a trad wife 'putting the apron on and scrubbing the house down' with 2 screaming toddlers in the background. I also want to see them get up at 5 and do their make up, before the baby wakes up. Delulu.

[@jenbodhi1133]

Then when the husband comes home, have a big smile, spotless house, look perfect, dinner made, have sex with him, clean up the house and put kids to bed and bath, put away the leftovers- And do that everyday for 18 years with no sick days or vacation time

[@kialuvsyoo]

They would have like 2 hours of sleep per night if this were true! I could never 😪

[@leila_de_hautjardin]

​@@jenbodhi1133I feel burnt out just by reading your comment 😢

[@charlee_hotel]

​@@kialuvsyoo Or by using fully automated appliances. Having a Roomba, dryer, washer, dishwasher, instacook, and air fryer *ON TOP* of mops, brooms, ranges, and conventional ovens.

[@jonathancummings3807]

My older female relatives did this easily. This Gen Xer had relatives from the original 1940's and 1950's Tradwives who were still alive in the 1970's when he was a child. They could do all that and had seamstress skills enough to mend damaged clothing, iron the Husband's clothes so they wouldn't be wrinkly, then in down time, some of them could create their own clothes, make a simple summer dress. My mother, born in 1936, could do that, she didn't need to buy clothes at a store necessarily, she could buy cloth and using her mastery with a sewing machine create basic clothing. Pants, shirts, simple dresses. Skills most people in 2024 lack.

[@yungJab]

Crazy how easily manipulated that man in the article was. Like bro its a video on tiktok... and that really changed your veiw on your wife your married to for 4+ years. Thats not a man, thats a child.

[@bfbmain]

Exactly, and it goes to show how extreme/influential these echo chambers are becoming. I predict it'll be a rude awakening for this guy a couple years into the divorce.

[@munaali840]

and 12 years together, sad really

[@ana-nim]

Yeah. And he lost a wife and a stable life probably forever just because of the tiktok lol. I can predict that he will have 5 stages in life next: 1. Trying to find himself a trad wife as a 40 yo divorced man. Failing. 2. Trying to manipulate much younger girls to become a tradwife for him. Losing a little bit of money for that and then failing. 3. Trying to find himself a tradwife in other poor countries. Losing A LOT of money for that, basically going bankrupt and then failing. 4. Asking his ex wife to get back to him, making surprised pikachu face when she says that she actually has another man now. 5. Depression/alchoholism/s*icide. And all of that over stupid tiktok. Logical beings are so logical.

[@soupafleye]

crazzzzy

[@yungJab]

@@EnlightenedMinarchist but his realization stemmed from a tiktok content creator. Not Marcus Aurelius or his own father, that his realization was so enlightening that he rejected the years worth of time he built with his own wife.

[@RS33381]

It is economically impossible for every woman to be a trad-wife. This is what they don’t tell you. New flash- people are going broke! 😂

[@charlee_hotel]

Including boomer tradwives. Right now, *THE fastest* growing segment of the homeless/unhoused population *ARE BOOMERS!!!* Why? Their jobs, pensions, savings have been depleted. Either by outliving their savings or getting so ill and/or weak, they have to *sell it ALL* to not afford to die. Many are also learning that hard work was not enough.

[@jonathancummings3807]

What about the Tradwives in the 1930's during the even worse GREAT DEPRESSION?

[@inkchip7351]

Also your hair is gorgeous could I ask which product you use? I'm trying out new things cuz my favorite got discontinued!

[@jonathancummings3807]

@@scorpionbraid Or they didn't work since if unemployment was supposedly at 25% for men in career fields recognized as official "employment", and was actually much higher since farmers also got hit hard at the time due to many factors including environmental: "Dust Bowl", Women would have been much higher. No. Women working was uncommon. A relative few worked as cooks, or waitresses because there were few eateries, few wealthy able to afford Maids, the Tradwife is NOT an invention, it always existed. Here's what they really did. Produce clothes and sell them if they could, produce goods like pies or canned goods like pickles, tomatoes, etc. You made the same error many men of this era do, ASSUME THE SOCIETAL STRUCTURE WAS SIMILAR TO TODAY. Only city ladies worked in factories, more people actually lived in Rural America than today. Modern women would hate to live in pre WW2 Rural America because marriage was still mostly arranged by families and family friends. Often farms of neighbors who liked and respected each would pair children up so that they could: 1.merge land keep it in the family, 2. Have people who know how to maintain and keep a farm going build a family. The suffragettes were fighting for the same reason these modern women are hating on the Tradwives concept so hard, they wanted to share in the new type of lives their brothers were able to, that the modern world of the late 19th and then 20th century provided. It doesn't mean the older system didn't work for society overall, nor that it's actually better for both the production and raising of children. It means, the women wanted an equal chance that their brothers had in all things....period. No one can really discredit that when the bulk of "Birthing Persons" marry, be the pillar/bedrock of society, the society hold together and is healthy, with healthy, well brought up children. The modern society is not healthy, a large percentage of Gen Z and Gen Alpha are individuals suffering terrible problem, according to themselves, psychological issues, they cannot form healthy relationships with each other. Think about the state of society in the USA today, Never before has so many people had issues with 1. The sex they were apparently born as, Transgenderism is growing. 2. Gay people are growing as well, people repulsed by the gender they need to be romantically involved with to efficiently breed, 3. Cis straight men and "Birthing Persons" are mostly not meeting eye to eye, like here, for each woman/Birthing Person here that speaks ill of men and their desire for a Tradwife there is a man in the Manosphere whining about their dislike for any person not like an actual Tradwife. No wonder so few babies are being generated that without heavy immigration, the population will grow old and smaller fast. Currently places like Italy, South Korea, and Japan show the future in all such countries with a problem for the Traditional, official median ages of 47.7 44.5, 48..4. South Korea would seem better off but with a Fertility rate of 0.8 children which means for every 200 people men and "Birthing Persons", only 80 babies are produced, that is before inevitable mortality events occur. So the median age will equal the other two quickly, The USA is rapidly approaching age 39, the point where countries like Russia and China stop growing and start to shrink and age dramatically. It's 38.9 in 2023. Older than the 37 year old "Birthing Person" in the tale told at the beginning. Dr. Darrell Bricker a far superior Social Scientist to myself, studied the phenomenon and it's his work along with some independent research done on my own regarding this subject. As the health status of the society I live in is very important as it directly affects my own life.

[@RS33381]

@@inkchip7351 thanks love I used diva curl shampoo and conditioner, sometimes I use their hair mask and deep condition a couple times a month. Miss Jessie’s soft pillow curl for styling and African pride or Mielle’s oil for shine and finish.

[@asea1203]

I have had four jobs in my adult life, and three of them had female bosses. I always get annoyed when people try to give the argument that working outside home is a ticket to getting exploited by male bosses. This point disregards the fact that a significant amount of bosses and businesses owners out there are women.

[@wolfsmaid6815]

tbh I really wouldn‘t care if there was a male or female boss exploiting my labour. Both is a terrible deal if the alternative is being my own boss as a tradwife.

[@kayleematthews1658]

​@@wolfsmaid6815 lol your husband is your boss, actually, and if he ever fails you it's gonna be a hell of a lot harder to replace him financially than it would be to replace a boss

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

"This point disregards the fact that a significant amount of bosses and businesses owners out there are women." And even with an exploitative male boss, you can up and quit your job whenever you want and get a better one. It might not always be pleasant or easy to do so depending on your situation, but it's a hell of a lot easier than divorcing an exploitative husband on whom you're 100% financially dependent for all of your needs and wants.

[@Xoxososowi]

​@@wolfsmaid6815 exploiting labour? They pay money , sometimes lot of money for labour and you can always switch. Trad will only make you beg for little thing because you don't have money

[@aprilchow-chee5281]

​@ayleematthews1658 facts

[@MajesticFerret]

Her husband leaving her after 12 yrs because he was obsessed with getting a tradwife after watching Estee's content is BS. She has tattoos (they're hidden) and a boob job and basically just really likes 1950's fashion so likes to play dress up while larping as a Marilyn Monroe look alike while she stays at home. And good for her, she can pull off the Marilyn Monroe 1950's housewife aesthetic pretty flawlessly. However, did the guy actually give af that his wife of 12 yrs was bringing home the bacon instead of cooking and cleaning (which a maid can do, which you can probably support with dual income), or did her husband just fall in love with the idea of a hot Marilyn Monroe look alike with huge boobs walking around his house in a dress? Let's keep it real: the dude probably just wanted to sleep with someone else (particularly a younger, hotter blonde with fake boobs, which has nothing to do with being "trad" or not) and gas lighting her for not being trad enough was just an excuse to break up the marriage.

[@aprilroses17]

Exactly

[@NidzShah-ps6kr]

Damn you're so right 😳

[@bres.4806]

Right. Men want anything attached to a hot, big boobed woman. Lol. Not to mention she's going to be your submissive maid/pornstar. They are literally selling a fantasy to these men. I love it. These morons are letting Patriarchy porn blow up their lives.😂😂😂.

[@AbianahTheGemini]

Yuppp that’s so true!

[@Cekatu]

🎯 Very very true. The men find every ridiculous reason to leave their marriages...., while blaming the wives. Just sad. I don't even know why any woman would want to marry, in this day and age

[@PersianTangelo]

It makes me angry how these nonsense tradwives disrespect working mothers. My mom is a working mother and she was and is a damn fantastic mother. She would wake up at 4-5am, make up lunches, set us off to school, and she would go to work, then come home and wrangle with us over homework before we went to sleep. Was she there for every school play or every damn extracurricular activity? no. But she was there when it mattered. She kept food on the table, clothes on our backs, knowledge in our minds and love to make the house a home. No one should EVER disrespect her hard work, her sacrifice. tradwives are not the apex of motherhood; it's a lifestyle choice like BDSM or whatever, or role playing LARP. There is nothing magical associated with stay at home mothering and I'm sick of pretending there is.

[@jameslong1644]

where was your dad?

[@purplepill2024]

@@jameslong1644 - can't say about OP's dad. But my dad went to work and then the bar with his buddies after work. Raising the kids was left to my mom. And yes, plenty of other kids have the same experience I did. Lookup other trad-wife and you see a pattern of child-rearing was the women's job. Nora Smith has a husband that helps her watching her kid, but that isn't the the experience every kid will have under the housewife system.

[@jwardTLS]

Pearl is a grifter and is not to be taken seriously. The same goes for these "trad-wife" TikTok ladies. None of that is real life and I say this as a man married for 16 years to a woman I've been with for 20 years who has been a SAHM with no formal education the entire time. My wife does not wear an apron, does not were short skirts, I personally enjoy cooking and we split that stuff up and I usually do the dishes a few times a week to help out as needed because 1 person cannot just do it all. This is why our marriage works because we were still raised to understand the value of supporting each other. Concepts like empathy and recognizing the value of building up companionship are not lot lost on us. In most cases I agree a woman today should not sacrifice education because statistically, most men would not even be able to support them in divorce alimony if it came to that. My wife and I are an anomaly since I'm a high 1% earner. If we got divorced, she would have more in alimony than most people could ever hope to earn, and if I die the life insurance sets her up forever. Our daughter is nearly 17 and is being guided towards independence because unfortunately the reality is people suck and I don't trust a man to take care of my daughter the way I take care of my wife - that is, unconditionally. As time goes on and cost of living increases and life becomes tougher, the level of risk for anyone (man or woman) to be financially dependent on a "Breadwinner" increases dramatically. Both my wife and I were raised in single income households where our moms were home with us, and obviously our kids have experienced the same. I value this but we simply must be pragmatic about modern society and how detached people are today from responsibility to others. The concept of a relationship and what it means has been distorted by selfish beliefs and narcissism about "my life me me me what I want". As such, we have a sense that we must raise our kids to focus first on being independent.

[@seabreeze4559]

you're a good man.

[@Mira-gu6we]

Thankyou. You get it. So many dont.

[@ineedhoez]

It's wild. I never understood that "you submit to your boss" retort. I have a choice to enter into an employment contract. I agree to a salary in exchange for my physical or mental labor. I have union protections. I have state and federal government protections. I don't have to sleep with my boss.

[@neigeepierrot4694]

Yes 12:29

[@MoreCoffeePlease.]

Yes. It’s a ludicrous false equivalency. The power imbalance between a “trad wife” vs her husband is nothing like that of an employee and their employer.

[@madarawijerathne276]

Also some jobs doesn't even have a direct boss

[@jhonhoppins522]

They just want women to stay pressed, there has never been logic

[@thepragmatist]

"You submit to your boss." It's nonsensical gaslighting.

[@RasheedahNizam]

It's so crazy how they don't expect Pearl to find a man. They never listen to her. They just talk to us and point to her and tell us to listen. But not one of them in her inbox.

[@tacrewgirl]

This part

[@destroyraiden]

In the 1950 - 1980s they had to create an entire welfare system for all the abandoned trad wives when their men wanted to support someone else they were called abandoned house wife homes and it was 1 step above a homeless shelter today.

[@Xoxososowi]

Before that as well as women never owned properties even if they worked out

[@sunofabob]

That's not why they created the welfare state. That might have been what they told people but no.

[@VeeKayGreenerGrass]

Not to mention, the abandonment often started with financial and domestic abuse. See the 1974 Wife Beating report.

[@mpazinambao2938]

Sitting in my bed eating from the pot i cooked in at an irregular time. I don't think I'd make it far as a trad wife.

[@pageturningpriestess2859]

"Eating from the pot I cooked in at an irregular time." Why do we have the same kitchen schedule LOL

[@SPMunny]

A pot is just a more readily portable bowl. Plus that’s one less dish to wash

[@phin2005]

​@@SPMunny 😂 work smarter, not harder!

[@ChanelleEvans-tp5ht]

Best comment 😂👏🏽

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

Hey, that's just called efficiency. Why dirty another dish if the pot can serve as a perfectly good bowl?

[@jennopalis]

I’m a stay at home mom right now. I’ve worked since I was 15 and I am almost 34. I chose to leave my career because I wanted to stay home with my baby girl. I am so fortunate and grateful for my husband who makes enough to support us. I have the rest of my life to go back to work, but only a short window to enjoy my small children. But let me tell you, there are days I look crazy and am so exhausted. I don’t have time to put makeup on every day and definitely don’t look like these trad wives online! 😅

[@LadyMontane]

And no one in their right mind would expect you to! These women are just roleplaying. Their act should be taken as seriously as Medieval reconstructors LARPing out an epic battle in a local park.

[@MonDieuMaCauseMonEpee]

Playing the game, poor man.

[@jennopalis]

@@MonDieuMaCauseMonEpee a man providing for his family is “playing the game” okay, beta male. You took the time to comment on my post for what? I don’t need to explain myself to a stranger aka troll.

[@Nostalkingwelcome]

I’m convinced the ladies on those TikTok’s don’t even have children but like to pay pretend

[@Elfling26]

That's all completely fair and understandable. Nothing wrong at all with choosing to take time away from work to be there for your kids when they're young. But like you said you worked before having kids and would go back to work. It also means you'd have a way of earning money if your husband couldn't support you, got sick etc. What troubles me about the trad wife trend is it seems to encourage young women to not study/ train for anything other than being a wife and mother. Life isn't predictable and its a good idea to have a backup

[@lillybilly9954]

What’s so silly to me is, the clothes, hair, and makeup the tradwife has is expensive. The cleaning products, ingredients for cooking she uses, the kitchen utensils, all expensive. Additionally she is probably earning as much money if not more than her husband. Please believe that woman is running her house and not submitting to anything. And the kicker is, her online personality doesn’t allow for her to unpartner with her husband ever. So no matter what he does she will have to protect his image and stay locked into that marriage happy or not.

[@seabreeze4559]

he is clearly gay and she is bearding, hence a long time before pregnancy

[@sunofabob]

Not all of this stuff is expensive.

[@tiahnarodriguez3809]

@@sunofabob Weak counter argument.

[@sunofabob]

@@tiahnarodriguez3809 fortunately for me it isn't a counter argument. Just a single counter point.

[@AlexDun123]

The funniest thing about Tradwives is that they're literally pushing an ideal they pulled from the pictures in 1950s advertisements. Their "perfect lifestyle" is about as realistic as people reveling in the scent of their laundry detergent like the commercials show.

[@lucietiragesdoraclesetspir5512]

Looks like Truman' s wife in the Truman show movie.

[@jonathancummings3807]

No. You must be too young to know the reality. It was real, I am a Gen Xer, alive in the 1970's, my female relatives were wives in exactly this mould, and were content in their lives. They thought activists like Gloria Steinem were crazy. Women of that age actually tried to look their best all of the time, they did maintain the house exactly as portrayed, they did all the cooking, cleaning, and never left the house looking ragged, or in anything but nice clothes and their choice hairstyle. I enjoy Estee as she reminds me of those relatives who have now passed away. She mimics the real thing very well.

[@thepragmatist]

Exactly. Great analogy.

[@seabreeze4559]

working class women had to work even with six kids and a husband working THREE jobs

[@orionnebula1136]

@@jonathancummings3807 Estee is a tiktoker, nothing she does is real. Its a performance

[@mama-nono3652]

When I worked as a nurse in maternity, one of jokes we used to say to mothers being discharged was "see you next year!". One mother laughed and responded, "I don't think so". Which was the usual response. Her husband scowled and said sharply, "I'll decide that!", and you could see her shrink. So, what she wanted was not even a consideration. She was, in effect, a chattel slave in terms of her rights and status in that relationship. And that is my problem with the Trad wife narrative. They want to create a cultural environment wherein women have no identity, no roles and no choices outside of wife and mother. It seems an outrageous claim or a social "panic", but we have people (even women) making statements about rescinding women's right to vote, making birth control illegal, telling women that their ONLY purpose in life is finding and pleasing a man; that higher education is outside of their "purpose", that needing to be financially independent is nothing more than a feminist lie. These women are, seriously, out to IMPOSE not just cultural compliance, but to FORCE compliance BY LAW to their dogma. For those who still think this is over-think, remember what was said by the women in the opening of this video -- "I DON'T LIKE that motherhood is a CHOICE". What would people like that do to ensure that it can no longer be a choice? Hand Maidens anyone? This is nothing more than misogyny .... but you know, for your own good.

[@GaDoBiMi]

I am a tradwife and I do not agree with what you said. I do not want to impose this on any woman out there -it should be a choice. But in the same way I don’t want to impose it to women, I don’t want women to tell me this is a wrong choice because they don’t like it 🤨

[@mama-nono3652]

@@GaDoBiMi So we agree that people should be able to decide for themselves how they want to live. But that requires that others recognize and respect that you have those rights, that you have agency and that you have sovereignty, and that this is our natural state as granted by our creator, not by men. This is what I am ADVOCATING for. Anything that violates or attempts to claim authority to remove that covenant of our being sovereign is a detriment to ALL of humanity. What I am OBJECTING to, as in the examples I stated, is that people who want a certain lifestyle trying to MANDATE the revocation of basic human rights, such as bodily autonomy (Ex: trying to BAN, BY LAW!!, birth control). Now, as a Trad, if you choose not to use birth control, don't, but to be attempting to take that choice away from ALL women is an assault on women's agency, their right to choose. If you don't want to vote, don't. Forgo whatever rights and choices you or anyone else VOLUNTARILY want to forgo. You, personally, may not want these intrusions to go forward, but they are a force in the culture, in the legislatures and judicial systems. I, for one, am responding to what I see as CREEPING DOGMATISM, and being aware of what misery it has wrought in the world, I am loath to see it take hold in this nation as it has in other nations in the BLINK of an eye. Freedom requires eternal vigilance. Stay vigilant. Stay free.

[@rodriguezk96]

​@@GaDoBiMi exactly 👏👏👏

[@pendafen7405]

This is so sad, chilling and sobering. But I'm so glad you shared. These girls who buy into the fantasy need this kind of Silkwood slap to see reality.

[@angiedoe597]

@@ehansaluja1413 again same reply on a different comment! L.O.S.E.R 😂😂😂😂😂

[@analuizadefigueiredosouza7851]

The article only shows how ungrateful and insensitive men can be in regards to women. And I agree, once a marriage ends, it's better to walk out of it with your own money, goals and civil protection

[@analuizadefigueiredosouza7851]

@@jonathancummings3807 Of course it's a man who's angry about it. 🙄 If you didn't even bother to pay attention to the situation portrayed in the article my comment references, at least spare us of your ignorance

[@jonathancummings3807]

@@analuizadefigueiredosouza7851 I did. Of course you dismiss my having a different opinion as mere "ignorance".Angry? Nah, as a MGTOW monk mode, I know it's no privilege, marriage to a "modern person" is something to avoid. What happened, was that Tiktok made him "wake-up" and realize he was in a situation he didn't want, since his partner refused to change, it was over. Of course, the reverse happens also, "Birthing Persons" readily divorce husbands that don't change when they ask them to. The weak Manosphere guys foolish enough to actually marry pathetically whine about their wives leaving them for precisely the same reason this man undid his marriage, the wife changed for whatever reason, desired the man to change in to remain compatible, and when he refused, they quite rightly, divorced him.

[@angelwings967]

@@ehansaluja1413Lmaoooo the fact that you’re here spamming this exact comment under different threads screams loneliness.

[@ItIsTooComplicated]

​@ehansaluja1413, you picked the wrong video to post this , idyet

[@seabreeze4559]

We need follow-up stories to ensure they're actually happy. That's just common sense. @@ehansaluja1413

[@katiez688]

Ben’s sister doesn’t like the idea that a woman gets to choose whether a man impregnates her, she risks death, undergoes severe physical changes, endures a long and difficult labor, pushes a new human out of her, and then spends 18 years working full time to raise a child 🤷🏼‍♀️.

[@deirdremorris9234]

She is certfiably nuts.

[@faithinjesus7817]

A woman does have a choice... birth control & abstinence. Abortion doesn't have to be the first choice.

[@mmc1227]

85% of abortions were by women on birth control@@faithinjesus7817

[@andysixxstalkerangeloftrag5833]

I lost teeth from my pregnancy due to severe vitamin deficiency and hair loss

[@faithinjesus7817]

@K.C-2049 K.

[@defiantlypinki1107]

I feel like people forget that domestic work is work. The only difference is that your husband/boyfriend becomes your boss. If I have to work either way, I’d rather work outside the home for a company where my check is guaranteed. Plus, I make six figures as a pharmacist; it’ll take a lot for me to want to give that up completely.

[@thepragmatist]

Good for you.

[@chickensalad3535]

@@SolisIlangaIt’s different in the US.

[@ayomidedareabel5525]

​@thecrow5006 paying the bills isn't a salary. He'd still do it if he was single. Unless he's giving her a sensible allowance every month for herself then not really

[@megl6148]

My husband is not my boss. I am my own boss as a homemaker.

[@megl6148]

@@ayomidedareabel5525 huh? My husband deposits his check into our bank account. If we get divorced, half his 401K half of our savings and assets is all mine. He doesn’t give me an allowance.

[@hannahhattingh2973]

There was a study done by an economist that won a Nobel prize that found the relationship between women who work and the different types of economies they live in follow a U curve. So women in the least privileged and the most privileged economies worked the most (for differ reasons) and the countries with economies in transition had the most stay at home wives. This can add some clarity to why the 50’s had higher rates of stay at home wives since most of the world was existing in a post-war economy! I love your channel and videos, just wanted to share some info i learned recently 💕

[@bfbmain]

Very interesting, thanks for sharing! 🩷❤️

[@user-qp6se2tn4r]

I have seen my sister and her engineering professor husband, stingy with his money she is like a house servant rather than a wife alwasy in fear, and she says she likes it. Couldn't be me!!! Money is freedom!!!

[@franz3810]

same, I told my partner if we both work, we both do stuff at the house if not, I'm out

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

I couldn't fathom having to ask my husband for money to buy not only my basic personal needs, but my frivolous wants as well. Like a child. The shame would be unbearable.

[@thispersonrighthere9024]

if he becomes abusive, i hope you are strong enough to not allow your sister into your home with her kids after the divorce. if i were you, i would start saving money. if she shows up at your house, give her a month's rent at a motel while she gets herself together. and, the only reason i'm suggesting you help them at all if it happens is not for her, but for the kids

[@_meh_whatever]

To all the girlies that would like to be a SAHM: get an ironclad and throughout prenuptial agreement. They are used as well for cases of staying at home parents. Remember that choosing to stay at home does not mean you're renouncing work, it just usually means you're renouncing getting paid for your work unless you make a legally bound financial agreement. Protect yourself, your labor and your investments.

[@alyxxa6182]

My man maxes out my ROTH IRA yearly and it amounts to 2-3 times MORE than working women put into retirement/savings. And by retirement age, I will be a multi millionaire, for baking cookies and cleaning the home I live in.

[@alyxxa6182]

Tells trad wives she can have her own business and doesn’t need a paycheck from a male boss. Then immediately proceeds to tell a story about her male boss that she gets paychecks from DEFENDING her against a crazy guy.

[@alyxxa6182]

Women in the West have ALWAYS been allowed to work. The “patriarchy” literally built society and is the reason why women live comfortably.

[@Dovey31]

​@@alyxxa6182so you think every stay at home mom is banking money like you are? You don't think this turns out to be a nightmare for some women? If I told you what happened to me, how I got left with absolutely nothing ....I bet you'd say "well that's not everyone!" When my situation is more common than yours. The bottom line is no one should be pushing a certain family dynamic. Do what works for you and your family. And the trad wife content is NOT reality.

[@Redmanticore]

"To all the girlies that would like to be a SAHM: get an ironclad and throughout prenuptial agreement. " but.. that would protect the _husbands_ from divorce...?

[@sarahwilson24]

I want the man who considers divorcing his wife over those 'trad wives' TikTok videos to step into the real world and find a woman who will do these unrealistic ideals promoted by these content creators. I want him to live the reality of having to pay for everything, including her makeup, dresses, and all the bills and see how long his fairytale last 🤣. His wife needs to move on and find someone who truly appreciates and loves her. When he eventually realizes that his fantasy wife isn't a reality and tries to reconnect, I want her to laugh in his face and send him packing. Many supporters of this movement are either married to working women or are working women themselves. Just have a look at Candace Owens, Brett Cooper, and Ben Shapiro's wife, who is a doctor, btw. It's hypocritical for them to advocate against women working while having or being a working wife themselves.

[@RodrickMarsMoon]

Right?! Specially in my country, where the treatment against women is getting worse due to the chaos that is happening here, so they're not seeing that being traditional wives comes with "traditional treatment". I don't even care anymore, I'm just being the real life Watcher, witnessing the battle courts for domestic violence coming along with all this. It's unfortunate that the situation has to go that far for them to realize that this fantasy is just this. Fantasy.

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

It hasn't escaped my attention that every female conservative talking head I hear advocating for that lifestyle is independently wealthy and career-driven. Frankly, so are the male ones. If anybody would be in a position to comfortably support a wife and kids on one income, it's them. 99% of their audience... not so much.

[@magdalenehagey4079]

Yeah, no "trad" hunny out there wants a divorced man, lmao, divorce is not trad.

[@patb2582]

Her story rings so true! I’m in 30. I’ve been besties with male friend for years. He was always a sweet guy. We never dated because to be honest he’s not that hard working. But we always said if by the age of 35 I’m still single we would get married and have kids. Now he’s completely changed. Mind you he makes about 50k a year but now wants a trad wife and listens to Andrew Tate. I asked how he’s going to support a family in this economy on his 50k salary and he says he’s a passport bro and will go to the Philippines to find a wife and bring her back

[@LadyMontane]

Loool. Watch him marry a bar girl or a massage parlour girl who sells him a sob story about "having to do this to support her family", drop 10k in dowry to her greedy parents and spend the entirety of that "marriage" listening to how he's a failure of a husband because he doesn't provide her with this and that. A tale as old as international travel. Good riddance, sister: God protects us and gives us all exactly what we need. If you need a husband, He will provide!

[@patb2582]

@@LadyMontane amen. Hoping 2024 will be my year. 😭😭😭

[@briskettacos]

If he thinks American women are money-hungry, wait til his in-laws get their claws in him

[@wolfsmaid6815]

My husband earns less than that and we managed to make it work (2 kids currently, and a house bought). If the income is low, you just need to be frugal with the money you do have. I‘m more with your friend on this one.

[@R_t-99]

​@@wolfsmaid6815why should a woman leave her job and become dependent on someone who earn less? You are happy with being poor doesn't mean everyone wants it.

[@Ally2018.]

I would never feel comfortable depending financially on another person whoever that is. You never know what could happen.

[@Ally2018.]

@@thomasvacsi6732 I am totally financially independent since graduation from University. My sallary used to be much higher then my husbands, now they are somewhat equal. We are together for 30+ years, and raised our daughter. She is now an adult. And if you think I depend on my employer, well I can change that if I wanted to, but arent we all? Men too. I said I would never be comfortable depending on another person, and since I moved from my parents I never had to. It can be done you know.

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

I've seen it blow up in too many people's faces over my lifetime, both men and women. It's happened to me before, too. _Never. Again._

[@renflower1910]

I agree but I feel bad for people who can’t work because of disabilities and have to rely on others. I feel like people forget about that.

[@thedivinezero4117]

also, these people are influencers. they do have an income

[@renflower1910]

Exactly!!! That’s the funny part of it. They’re not exactly like the housewives from the 50s.

[@pizzadogma]

Why would anyone want to live on one income? Especially in this economy, just sounds like being stuck in poverty or financial restrictions because men are too insecure to deal with a woman with a job

[@whitneywhitney8356]

I would’ve spent more money for someone else to raise my kids. I would have lost out on all those precious days. It’s possible I know a lot of families living on one income. They budget and live below their means. Which is how everyone should do it.

[@Nastasyashanti]

@@whitneywhitney8356some of us (40% of adults to be clear) have chronic health problems. Living below our means is risky.

[@juliabliss1477]

I highly benefit from being a stay at home wife... I have no desire to be employed. I love my freedom. I love making my home exceptionally cozy & welcoming. I love spending time with my boys. I love that my husband takes me out on regular dates. And I love going on lunch dates with girlfriends. I love that I don't have to wake up to an alarm clock and come home exhausted. No fear. No premature aging... I love that my cortisol levels aren't spiking due to stress, and that the trust I have in my husband has fueled his drive to be the champion he is now. Never underestimate the powerful effect that prayer, waiting on sex for marriage...and trusting & honoring your husband can have on his capacity to become the BEST version of himself as a leader, protector & provider. It's the most magical dance...one that I wish for every marriage. ✨️

[@tfkdandsvkc]

​​@@whitneywhitney8356 "which is how everyone should do it" and who are you to dictate and force people to live their lives like you?,,what part of freedom don't you understand?,,you can live whatever you want but don't force your ideals on other people.There is something called freedom of life.

[@workingoutpizza]

The thing with this dogma many impressionable men and women fail to realise is that a Trad Wife lifestyle is only affordable to the top earners. Second, women having no safety net to fall back on, depending entirely on a single income.... that thought alone scares me. I might not earn much or enjoy my job. But it is there to fall back on IF god forbid something happened to my husband or our home. The saying "do not put all your eggs in one basket" comes to mind.... Lastly, women then have to depend on their husband for money for everything - holidays, clothes, etc. It will slowly erode their freedom of choice. Unless they marry a kind man.... Last, men may not realise it now, but it also puts so much pressure on them to provide. Imagine being stressed with your whole life dependant on making enough to provide to your family. What if you want a break? Or change your job? Or get fired? Redundant? Men being gullible beleieving this is about secual fantasy... how unrealistic and short sighted. You would give up so much. To work your life away so you can provide. Think about whether you truly want that, or an equal, balanced, loving home where you both support each other

[@c.j.m.mariaa]

The problem is not being a stay at home mother and wife the problem is staying at home and not being able to survive without a man because you dont have any skills. I am a stay at home mother but I have a master degree and did work in the past, I also always had my own home bought and payed of and legal documents saying that my house was only mine and could never be taken from me when I would leave my husband or he made the choice to leave me. I think its wonderfull to have the option of staying at home when the kids are young and not going to school yet but again you should not depend on a man for everything because when it goes south you should be able to be oke yourself.

[@TheGhostofAbigailMills]

0:00 "I don't like the idea that motherhood is a choice" is so unhinged, its scary. Like ... what in the broodmare? What kind of Handmaid's Tale teas? What in the Gilead??? If this weren't all a soulless grift and lowkey a fetish, I would be terrified.

[@seabreeze4559]

grape fetish really

[@artemisia4718]

I really really hope she never births a daughter. She’s already probably spoiling her son with this pickme nonsense. Can you imagine the horror she can cause in a little girl’s psyche?

[@sunofabob]

Motherhood wasn't a choice for most of humanity. We struggled to live and would have loads of kids because some of them were almost guaranteed to die. That mentality as a remnant of the past and as a religious belief is still valid. I don't agree personally but it's not unhinged. You just have to use historical context. Today, through industrialization and the modern lense we can quickly ignore or insult old points of view because we don't get it but we don't have to. Keep in mind that the vast majority of the stuff we benefit from right now was created in the 1900s. That's extremely recent on the human time-line. We're just so spoiled that we can't see beyond the past 20 years sometimes. And we judge others for still holding on to ideals that were still very relevant very recently.

[@greencaeilian5084]

The husband had a mid life crisis thats literally it

[@StarGaze725]

My education got me to a brand new city (Chicago) from a small town in a high rise apartment downtown. Never again will I fall for bs red pill content and allow men to downplay my education. My father pushed me to be educated for a reason. Because he knows how men REALLY are.

[@mariawrites2941]

Thank you for speaking about this topic. Your content may help save lives. 1 in 4 women go through domestic abuse. One of the factors that helps survivors thrive after leaving their abuser is income. Education is crucial for any human but for women it can also have this protective factor against the devastation of domestic violence and abuse.

[@carolinewhite9678]

The trad wife still depends on her husband's boss It's easier to change jobs than to change husbands. If your employer doesn't fulfill the contract you can sue or leave.

[@makeithomewithsade4176]

1. Depending on spouse financially sounds like torture. 2. My husbands’ friends whose wives do not work/ contribute financially tend to (secretly) resent their wives. They don’t tell the wives but have told my husband

[@oliver4534]

No, this is not a tradwife problem. This is a social media problem and we've only seen the beginning of it.

[@mmimicus]

I‘m always wondering… what would those women do if their men got really sick or even died? My dad was always more or less healthy until he was diagnosed with a rare, aggressive cancer when he was 51 years old. He died one year and a few months later despite undergoing chemo, radiation and a new form of antibody-treatment that wasn’t even officially approved for this type of cancer. I was 20 back then, my youngest sibling 13. We live in Germany, so we have at least some form of government support (financially). But - surprise - it is not really comparable to what my dad got payed (let alone the fact that he had always helped my mother with the house etc.). We are really lucky that my mum decided to start working again when my youngest sibling started going to school. No one really wants to think about this, but accidents happen, people can get really sick, and sometimes, there is literally nothing to prevent this.

[@racdod]

The idea that there is anything traditional about looking sexy around the house is ridiculous. That is not how any of our grandmothers and great grandmothers dressed. They were all in baggy dresses and bobbypins at home

[@KatatonicMusic]

I just made a video on this very topic, I think that the main reason for the surge in tradwife content is a direct reaction to the late stage capitalist society we live in, that things are so shit now that people are nostalgic for a time they never even lived in. Definitely a super interesting topic especially from a sociological standpoint

[@sarahrobertson634]

Being a housewife was possible from 1945 to 1965 in the US. Never before, and never since, and not really in other countries.

[@doll.ov.poetrii4682]

​@@sarahrobertson634 How is it not possible today if actual housewives still exist today in America. They existed way before 1945 and will literally always exist.

[@rene3759]

they mean in 1950 "dream" of a house wife. because usually women worked even outside of the house the wife of a baker also worked as a baker even if she was not, educated, credited or compensated for it the same goes for most women with husbands in most fields of work. Women always worked outside of the house also in additon to that women didnt usaually run the enire house hold alone and raise the kids alone they either had servants, slaves or staff or extended family members or close community memebers with which they shared all the endless tasks of childcare and housework with. The rise of the time of women runnig an entire household and kids alone is also the time "hysteria" amongs women was increasins ie women being burnt out and breaking down because it is too much labour for one person (well hysteria was also just in part sexit pathalogisation of women and girls and also locking women away if they didnt obey or act as men or society wanted them to also women loosing it due to the psycho-social abuse of women and girls and also crimes against women being ignored and womens ptsd just being blamed on women being "hysterical") @@doll.ov.poetrii4682

[@sarahrobertson634]

@@doll.ov.poetrii4682 No, before 1945 those were FARM wives. Way different. Farm wives created everything that people needed to live and work on a farm. They wove cloth, made clothing, spun yarn, often cobbled shoes, cooked everyone three meals per day, grew a kitchen garden, kept chickens, milled cows, churned butter, slaughtered livestock, sheared sheep, herded goats, the list goes on and on. Nobody could run a bachelor farm. A HOUSE wife in an industrialized, suburban society in the United States from 1945 to 1965 existed in a strange situation. There was no other major industrialized economy on earth. The US was the only one, everything else had been destroyed by the second world war, and had to re build. The US enjoyed unprecedented economic growth and power, where wages were high enough for a single earner to support an entire family. Before 1945, large multigenerational families worked farms together, because farming is very labor intensive. The separated nuclear family that happened between 1945 and 1965 was a fluke, was not healthy, and should not be idolized.

[@sarahrobertson634]

@@doll.ov.poetrii4682 The housewives of today are a minority. Most women have to work, and have had to work to support their families since about 1965. Even if they worked in menial jobs. Let's also not forget that housewives who did no outside work were generally white. Black women and Latina women and Asian women have always worked, no twenty year break for those ladies.

[@lindao9377]

They claim Trad and yet getting paid online for content 😅😅. I even saw one where the husband was working for her creating a whole studio for kitchen shows that's because she's supporting the home financially 😅 and it needs to be done to met their lifestyle. Or does she give the fiance to charity?

[@saroj5093]

I think husband is the problem, not the trad wife. If a man needs trad wife, he should be trad husband. Tred husband is very generous, supporting and understanding even on her bad days. So the women can take care of herself and family. Choice the work they enjoy.

[@lotadot]

Pearl is the embodiment of the saying "do as i say not as i do" and its halrious she talks about purity when she herself fails to embody even modern day chritsian/anglican values, she dosen't even conform the tradional stands she preches so hard about.

[@lolatiffhur]

You can always be sure 99% that a job will be give you enough. You don’t feel like begging. You don’t have to sell your body through s** to your husband when you don’t feel like it (are tired, busy with other things) or give kids and raise them far more than him. a union will protect you far more if your boss starts to harass you if your job goes that way. What I’m saying if you don’t have a job and you depend on a man for money (in a marriage) a man will NEVER give you enough. not even parents give their kids enough pocket money as they want. a man will never let you fulfil all your wants and needs. you will never be able to go in town as much as you like. if he does you’ll realise he is trying to cut short on something else. Better a job than begging a man for money.

[@nicole-uf9zg]

I don’t think being a tradwife nor a girl boss is the answer. This is for multiple reasons. 1. Our society was not made for women. It was built by men for men, so forcing ourselves into the workforce that is made from the man’s perspective is harming us. We have a 28 day cycle and the 9-5 is perfect for the 24 hour cycle. We literally have to ignore our bodily signals so we can work like a man, taking pills to numb the cramps and being so embarrassed or ashamed of our periods which literally track the seasons and could track the calendar year if used right. We have differences as women that could be life changing if used right and if we could feel safe in our feminity instead of having to be in our masculine to feel safe. We have one archetype of a feminine women that most know but it was made by the hatred and fear of our differences. 2. Marriage was made for convenience, not love. It was forbidden to love when marriages started out and that’s why traditional roles worked so good, and why we are seeing high divorce rates now. Marriage was only joining property, which women were seen as. 3. This society isn’t building both healthy men or women. We both have separate issues and it’s a societal issue. I don’t think we know what it looks like to be a fully healthy man and fully healthy woman.

[@isaa8521]

all fallacies. I can tell you never went to school. At least you'll be on your way to the perfect tradwife role.

[@tiahnarodriguez3809]

Most of this sounds like quack. Especially the part about periods. So many of us are irregular, and women have always been working. Back in the day women even worked right after giving birth. Which was wild, but we are not exempt from anything just because we have periods.

[@nicole-uf9zg]

@@tiahnarodriguez3809 many tribes actually had women go in special huts when they got their period and it was considered sacred. They didn’t have anything to stop their cycle they were just free bleeding. It was the men who became disgusted at women and their periods who invented the tampon and pads. It was men who wanted to control women that abused them into being property and take an inferior position. No one is better than the other, just different. We have a lot of power through our differences and they are complimentary. Through sexism, we’ve lost what it meant to be truly empowered in our natural state as women

[@toecutterjones]

If a man wants you to live like this he is the opposite of high value.

[@charityscreams5366]

I was a SAHM/W for 20 years. I am still happily married. The version of my life these girls are shilling is a silly fantasy. I definitely didn't dress up every day. I did get dressed and clean and cook. I also did a lot of volunteer work. My husband is retired from the Army now and the main reason I stayed home is he spent most of a decade in Iraq. I volunteered at the base and at my son's school and I very much enjoyed it. We did have to live on a budget and forego a lot of frivolous spending many of our friends got to enjoy but the tradeoff was worth it. It's a partnership not an ownership situation in all of the successful marriages of this type that I've been exposed to.

[@charityscreams5366]

@@GabrielleWoods03 I wish you all the best. I hope your family's adventure is as wonderful and blessed as my family's. I'm filled with genuine appreciation for your service, from my heart to yours. ❤️ 🙏

[@lookaroundyou8108]

Its so funny when people like men and pickme women keep on telling other women that being a traditional wife is the best life ever... as if we haven't seen our traditional mom's suffering due to exactly that!!! In order to be a traditional wife 1. Husband must be 100% trustworthy and decent man.. 2. He must be very rich, no traditional women is gonna be working... so yeah good luck for us to ever find that and hence why no one is getting married and instead is getting a cat (which is 100 time better and safer than men)

[@whitneywhitney8356]

Why would you marry someone who wasn’t 100% trustworthy? If there is a shadow of a doubt you shouldn’t. Obviously people are picking the wrong mates. The divorce rate is at about 50% in America last I checked.

[@fatemad4012]

​​@@whitneywhitney8356people change they have a right to change you can't lock people to be with you forever

[@Label2000]

@@whitneywhitney8356because people switch up, don’t show their true colors, and get comfortable.

[@bibianaguadalupeislasherre9880]

What would happen to these women, if they happen to be in a difficult situation, and don't have a backup plan. Do they have a bank account with money, in the case of an emergency? What would happen to the husband if he can no longer provide for the family for any reason? Note: I'm not attacking women who are housewives or those who love femininity or take care of their husbands and families, you do you. The problem with these influencers, is that their fans, they're quickly coming to their defense when someone dares to criticize or calling them out for their content and think we are either jealous of them or we're just "Bitter angry feminists" because they are conventionally attractive, choose to be feminine and submit to their husbands.

[@DancingAnaRodriguez]

I think being financially stable as a woman can be a plus for her husband, because then what about when by chance he gets laid off, loses his job, or decides to leave you? I think it puts so much STRESS on him, when getting by today independently can be a struggle... Let alone yourself, the wife, AND the kids. I wouldn't want my husband under that kind of pressure. Great video. From someone with more Christian conservative beliefs, I agree wholeheartedly with everything you've said. There's no reason for me being shamed for wanting to finish my college education for example. And that rhetoric I believe is being pushed by the redpill/Manosphere and possibly even tradwife content creators. it really speaks volumes

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

I'm of the mind that more income into a household is better for everyone in it.

[@Hepheat75]

Motherhood is a choice not an obligation.

[@aprilroses17]

Imo when someone owns you financially they act how they want bc they know its going to be a struggle to leave them

[@Stacy_G]

For me, it's more about hey even if you have a good man who provides, what are you going to do if he sudden dies or get murdered? For me growing up both my parents are immigrants from the Caribbean and Latin American, they came to American to raise a family despite my father's family not like his decision blaming my mom even though it was originally my dad's idea my mom agreed. They hated my mom because they thought she was trying to take him away from them or something which wasn't true, context for later. Fast forward a couple of years, my dad hard working also helping with cooking and cleaning around the house without my mom having to tell him to, also made enough noney so that my mom could be a stay at if she wanted too but she said no, she still wants to work. In my culture is really trilled that the men provides and protect so hence why hes very protect of my mom and my sis at the time but foreshadowing it was a good the my mom had working and some school experience. While pregnant with me, and my sister on way her way to elementary school my father was killed while getting robbed to home, mom witnessed it. Usually when a parent dies the kids are entitled to money after passing but my dad's family took most of the money that was suppose be for support kids, and since my mom didn't give birth yet at the time they need proof that i was my father kid get money but of course she still didn't get anything. Dad family sold most of his stuff without giving my mom her share except of one fam that did share, but still want enoughfor the long run. Also after giving birth to me mom had to go straight back to work despite no being full recover after c-section so good this she has experience but she. From my mom experience she has alway taught me to have my own and yeah, I see why.

[@bfbmain]

I am so, very sorry for your loss; I can't even begin to imagine the pain you went through, such a tragedy. Wishing you lots of love ahead ❤️🩷

[@Stacy_G]

@bfbmain thanks so much, we are far much better now because of what my mom went thru and her sacrifices so that me and older sis could have a better life and learn from those experiences to make sure we have our own just in case a situation happens. Much love sis .💜💜💜

[@Redmanticore]

you can easily solve that with law-binding contracts you can make beforehand & life insurances, etc. in that kind of society she would just find another provider. your mother wouldn't need to return to work.

[@laoshirich8407]

She can keep her skills, her job, and her income. She won’t have kids, but she’ll have cats.

[@mroeplz]

Probably only 3 to 5% of the population can afford to be a tradwife / take care of a tradwife.

[@noname-1224]

I feel like people aren't understanding that this goes deeper than just not liking the concept of a traditional wife. It's about the harmful role social media can play in creating false expectations of what is feasible in everyday life, and how when those expectations don't get fulfilled, these men are taking it out on their partners. The trad wives on social media are creating a fantasy, just like most lifestyle content creators are. It simply isn't financially feasible for the majority of people to live this way, especially if you include maintaining this aesthetic/physical appearance. And until men can understand that, and not unilaterally decide that they want to fundamentally change the woman they are with to be more financially dependent on them or start abusing their wives, then yeah, I think we can say we have a problem with tradwife content too. It also makes me sad because in some cases, these women have no insurance. At least back in the day a woman in this kind of relationship would usually have expensive jewelry or some other kind of asset to sell if she needed to get out of a bad situation. I think it's irresponsible to promote being dependent on someone else without having a backup plan, no matter how good the relationship is.

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

"It also makes me sad because in some cases, these women have no insurance." Or medical insurance, for that matter. Yeah, her husband can add her to his own policy if he has one, and the premiums might not cost too much more. But what happens if she becomes severely ill and they have to _use_ that insurance? Can he even afford the out-of-pocket costs for the things his policy doesn't cover? Say his policy covers 70% of X,Y and Z after deductible (which itself may be thousands of dollars). He's on the hook for 20% of that cost, not even factoring the cost of prescriptions. Depending on the ailment, that could add up to tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. Can he even afford the care she needs on top of all his other financial obligations? It costs an insane amount of money to keep a whole-ass human being alive, happy, healthy and safe.

[@kitkakitteh]

I didn’t need to dress like June Cleaver to be a trad wife. I want to see her scrubbing toilets and cat boxes, maybe putting a new bearing in the washer in that dress. I want to see the “I had to pop a new shingle on the roof” in that dress TikTok . The “just walking the dog” in that dress TikTok. Aprons are for cooking and baking. It’s ok to be a stay at home wife; that doesn’t mean you’re subhuman or lack skills 😂.

[@tayh.6235]

I grew up in a pretty conservative subculture where most of the moms I knew were SAHMs that homeschooled their kids. They were busy women, usually wearing tshirts and jeans or jean skirts (for the especially conservative ones). Lots of them dod canning, kept chickens or goats, girls often joined their dads and brothers im thendeer stand during hunting season. Some wives had part time jobs they could do mostly from home lile photography. For instance, one family I knew owned a gutter installation business. The wife handled scheduling and accounting, and all the kids would help their dad with jobs once they were old enough. I've seen the dad brag that his daughters are a real catch because they do such great work on gutters. Again, very traditional, conservative Christian families we're talking about here. This idea that women are frail, delicate flowers that are only good for wearing pretty dresses and being told what to do...is not at all traditional. It's a fetish, that's all

[@Hayakoneko]

Education is very important! Not only has my education helped me build a self-sustainable life, but it also helped elevate my husband after we met. Because of me being educated in finances we both have better lives. He now makes more than twice the amount he made before, because he followed my guidance. No shame in being a stay at home wife, but please use that time to acquire some new skills and knowledge. Also one never knows what could happen down the line. Even if your husband is rich, it doesn't make him immortal.

[@laurel237]

I just found your channel. I’m a 50+ year old life long career woman, mother of 2 (now adults) and career mentor for younger women. It’s been a long road for so many women and I was surprised and disappointed when I saw the tradwife trend pop up. I’m with you in that I believe all women (all people) should make their own life choices but the glamorization of being a stay at home wife and/or mom and submissive wife rhetoric they spew is dangerous. And I can’t even with Pearl. Keep you the good work. This video is fantastic!

[@joshuaharrell13]

It's always "Live your life how you want" until those people saying that see other people living life how they see best, and are happy in doing so. Then it's "That's not real," "It's just a grift," "That's not ideal or economically sustainable," and so on. A lot of people in this comment section don't seem to really understand that not all women are feminists who want to work for corporations that don't care about them.

[@yourlittlesecret7575]

How to get princess treatment: *insert picture of our beloved princess Diana and boy Charles* She deserved better 😢

[@meiimacca4054]

It's accurate because that's gonna be the treatment they get, doing their job and making thr man look good only to get cheated on and able to do little about it.

[@keropi193]

Thank you for your insight

[@Viendork]

Love this! I love my jobs. I have worked as a martial arts teacher to children, a karaoke dj, and my current full time job, a life model in art classes, where I hold still in physically challenging poses for hours and help people merge scientific anatomy knowledge with artistic creativity to draw, paint, or sculpt. I fight the idea that the woman's body is inherently sexual and enjoy it. Not corporate, not a tradwife. Thank you for saying not everything is black and white. I also have a boyfriend that I live with and we are very happy sharing financial and domestic responsibility. If I'm working more, he does more at home. When he's working more, I do more at home. We do teamwork and it works for us. Trad life isn't for everyone, and it's not for us.

[@Dyejob01]

Omg as a working woman I WANT a trad-wife. Someone to cook, clean, etc. So I don't have to. But why can't HE be a trad wife? Why are we always putting woman into these roles?

[@Random.sachen1]

What a +37 years old man is doing on TikTok??!!

[@SPMunny]

A lot of older people I know got on it during the rona bored during quarantine and unfortunately it rots your brain regardless of age lol

[@Random.sachen1]

@@SPMunny I wonder if he can provide for a trad wife then and a whole household by himself, if he has time to have TikTok and spend that much time on it

[@pastelmoon9118]

propably simping youngsters who do seducive TikToks

[@Redmanticore]

ive seen hundred year old people from both genders on tiktok. its how you influence the young. introduce them to alternative lifestyles.

[@tfkdandsvkc]

​@@SPMunny it's not about tiktok it's about the mentality behind causing the rot.

[@saiyamoru]

'Education is the ultimate equalizer' is so real and it is all the more concerning that people are fully willing to dismiss it nowadays. It is more important that your 'hot take' gets a viral amount of attention than it is that a 'hot take' convey any insight or truth.

[@deirdremorris9234]

You are totally right! There is very little if any support for women, moms and the family. And motherhood, while it can be rewarding and fullfilling, it is very thankless.

[@susanwjoh0re735]

what ?this society is pro female. this society has been hating on males for decades. why are you lying?

[@Redmanticore]

just do like the tiktoker and dont even have children. sahm without kids, kekw.

[@cantsay2205]

Can we just let women exist

[@Redmanticore]

i dont think anyone is stopping you from being alone, or dating women, no government to stop you.

[@bumblebee_ms]

In my 30 years of working, I have had two great bosses, and they were both young women.

[@BloodSweatandFears]

I’m a stay at home mom/wife, and these videos are extremely unrealistic. Real life is not nearly as pretty, frilly, and smiley. It’s messy, loud, and sometimes very stressful. I’m very aware that it is a privilege not everyone can have and I’m grateful every day. I also think every woman should have the choice to do what they want in their own lives. But they also need to know it isn’t all pretty dresses and sunshine all day, it’s hard! ❤❤❤

[@grethelge8872]

I agree, Its not an aestethic. Its an unpaid full time job.

[@BloodSweatandFears]

@@grethelge8872 It’s much more than a “job” it’s a responsibility that is rewarding in ways better than money. Plus my husband takes care of me quite well.

[@VeeKayGreenerGrass]

What they're doing on KZbin is a Job, they're earning from their channel 🤷🏾‍♀️. They're displaying conspicuous consumption. We all know none of it is real which is why they're called out.

[@esikazemese]

Also, it's much easier to change my job / boss, than change my relationship... First of all, I don't have to move every time I have issues at work...

[@theboredprogrammer1114]

I work so hard for now because I want to be a SAHM for a few years because I want to raise my child by myself and I don't trust nannies at all. That's just me, especially I was a child of a neglectful mother (she gave me to adoption eventually). It's horrible growing up and I don't want my future child to suffer without a mother always present. I want to bond with my child. What would be the sweetest spot for me is a wfh job and I take care of my child.

[@missalice557]

At least my boss would probably not kill me when I want to change jobs,unlike husbands...

[@JackFelker]

I had a trad wife for 52 years. She was nothing like I see on social media. She worked a job, worked at home, took care of the kids and everything else while I worked on the road. She was a loving compassionate woman who loved her family. She was my wife, my friend and my lover. She meant everything to me and our family. She passed away a few years ago. I’ve talked with several women who are looking for a man and every single one of them have not a clue what they really want and no idea what it means to be a wife. All they could talk about was the money, the things they wanted, their career, the list goes on and on. The most ignorant thing is the standards they set for a man. The things they expect a man to do for them, not the family. The family was secondary to their desires. After a short time and talking with several women I think it’s better to remain single now.

[@user-ce9xe1qe8i]

I'm so sorry for your loss and your wife sounds like she was a great person but if she worked a job outside of the home then she wasn't a trad wife. Trad wives don't work out of the home

[@lucietiragesdoraclesetspir5512]

Why are they all dressed like in the 50's 😂 too much stereotypes lol.

[@Redmanticore]

cute summer dresses. better than "sacks" for women that are sold.

[@lucietiragesdoraclesetspir5512]

@@Redmanticore Yes cute...but there are also beautiful dresses from other eras ...

[@renflower1910]

And the funny thing is these influencers are online making content and making money out of it. They have an income lol.

[@lucietiragesdoraclesetspir5512]

@@renflower1910 Yes lol but at least at home 😄.

[@trinity6180]

I have been both a working wife and a real traditional wives. The videos are not anymore exaggerations just like most women’s content on TikTok. So are the old magazines and old TV shows of the past. That should not be the debate. What is realistic is being a stay at home parent or a person that works full time. In the 50s and 60s more women were stay at home. However, most found ways to contribute financially also. Some full-time some part and some earned income at home various ways. The shift is more about percentages of women doing what. I am 70 years old. My grandmother wore an apron. My mom wore pants. Another thing that changed was technology. It is easier and to keep a home with all the advances. That is what gave more freedom to work full time.

[@Maclyn88]

What percentage of men can even afford to support a family in their sole income⁉️ Lots of dudes be out there wanting a trad wife when they need to split rent with multiple roommates. 👀

[@Maclyn88]

@@thomasvacsi6732It's the cost of living bro.

[@holistic_Ology]

I am in a traditional marriage with children. We, as a society, forget about the "why" in staying home...that is, Children. I was in an orphanage as a child and experienced having a family after adoption. Now as an adult, I see the value of having a mother at home. I have a 4 year degree and left my career to stat home. I cannot disciple my children if they are gone 40 hours a week. My husband and I make the sacrifices in order for me to stay home to disciple the children. It's all about the children. Unconditional love from both spouses, makes the marriage work. The tradwives online got their reward they were looking for online. There are genuinely deserving mothers living a quiet traditional life and are satisfied.

[@Otaku2803]

Love your points. I myself spent a few years in Pakistan and let me tell you, most of the "trad wives" there don't get to center themselves like that. You want to be modest, sure, but that modesty includes not posting photos or videos of yourself on the internet. Heck, some women aren't even allowed to use smartphones! If your husband turns out to be bad, good luck getting away from him if his parents made sure to cross out the divorce clause from your marriage contract. Imagine sending all these pick-mes to Pakistan, they'd get s-shamed for their actions in no time!

[@debbyduarte2334]

You can be a trad wife without dressing up or getting up early in the morning to make everything from scratch and you can be a trad wife and you dont need to have kids if you dont want to.

[@celinec2483]

Nice sweater where you'd get it from? What type of sweater is it?

[@Chantayoll85]

The biggest corruption two is that they basically just getting onto a friend and then making money off it and then telling people to rely on their husbands and it doesn’t make sense does it

[@ily279]

thank you for videos like these that expose the false ideas people are selling us on

[@Sunny_Sunburn]

I think traditional wives are great and should be respected. Trad wives are just some persona that don’t even represent traditional wives. Trad wives and traditional wives are different.

[@MrDevil-jb1fl]

Your content is so well thought out and informative. As an Indian woman who was born and raised in America to immigrant parents, I relate to you so much. Thanks for your work.

[@ColetteSteinmetz]

I'm a homemaker, but it's not the same thing as a tradwife. I had a good education and worked before I had kids. To me, a home maker is the home you provide for your family whether you work outside of the home or not. I really feel people misconstrue this whole tread wife thing. When I first saw it, I thought it was jen Z doing some weird nineteen fifties, housewife cosplay. Even in the fifties, it was not lollipops and rainbows. Don't get me wrong. Being a wife and a mother is very honorable, but the Tradwife content is a bit stepfordish and unrealistic.

[@pierregibson6699]

so the term for trophy wife now is trad Wife or I’m just old

[@isaa8521]

no trophy wife is a pampered luxurious woman who is smart because she knows that a man can always leave her, so she invests in herself and invests in business ventures. She also does not spend her days cleaning, they usually have a maid for that. Tradwives are the bottom of the barrel women, who marry guys living paycheck to paycheck and spend their days cooking and cleaning lol so pathetic.

[@Redmanticore]

trad wife is trophy wife for the working class, sure. but trophy wives weren't conservative in nature.

[@danielat1420]

this is my only issue with trad wife content: the “men” think it’s real but only is women can easily recognize what’s really going on behind the scene and it’s really troubling that men believe this is real 😂 it’s super sad

[@Luvmybunnies]

Please don't insult tradwives by lumping them in with Pearl. She is not classy, and she's not even a wife...

[@Redmanticore]

surprisingly she is not even that interested in her appearance. seems she is only interested in arguing, being confrontational, which is pretty testosterone "male" thing to do.

[@Dollygirl23]

Reminds me of the Steford wives use to be one of my fav movie those men were delulu but most the lady that made her self a robot as husband

[@CatSchrodingers]

If a woman wants to stay home and have tons of kids and take care of house order there is nothing wrong with that. Nobody is saying it is the only way to go. But i have seen women who feel happier taking time off to raise kids(haven't seen a woman that have never worked but only because i dont hang around rich people). I would say the smartest choice would be - live like you wish(traditional or modern) but always have a backup plan. And guess what? Tiktok tradwifes made a great backup plan - they actually are monetising being stay at home wife. They can save money and provide for themselves if things go south. Of course they are kind of faking it with all the galmour but a lot of them probably do enjoy cooking and cleaning and tiktok money is extra benefit. And i do find it is unfair to say that they are doing nothing. Housewife IS a job. Beacuase we all can go to office and sit our butt down but how many of us can clean the room and cook three course meal?:)))

[@medusawitchful]

They want princess treatment? Look at Princess Margaret and princess Diana life😂

[@Chet-f8p]

People can change, their wants can change and we may or may not agree on it sure but I'll just say it that guy leaving his wife of 12 years is a moron

[@Tacobelletacotaco]

I’m what you may consider a trad wife (I wfh and hubby leaves for work everyday), this works for hubby and I. I don’t dress up cause I’m too busy working or taking on household tasks however, I get harshly criticized by both sides of our family.. (mainly the moms) because I stay home. But I also work and clean.. no I don’t walk around in pretty dresses or put makeup on everyday.. I’m here scrubbing toilets, taking care of our animals, cooking hubby and I food, cleaning dishes, and working a full time job.. I feel like us women can’t win no matter what we do😢 were criticized for every single thing.. mainly torn down by other women

[@TOhara-eb2lp]

I am a Trad Wife (for 17 years) and feel the same. Before I was married I did the work thing and I hated it. I also could not justify working and then spending 90% of my money on daycare like so many of the women I worked with did. I have been called a traitor by other women to my face. I wear nice dresses outside the house but also am in to old clothes or just bra and panties cleaning the house and as for our finances I can ask, or just look it up myself on the computer since I know the passwords. The house and cars are jointly owned and we both have life insurance. I bake cakes from scratch- but only three times a year for my kids birthdays-not every damn day-and not in full makeup. There is a crucifix on my fridge, and it’s next to the chore wheel and my kids do it or lose privileges because I’m not the slave and/or mindless twit people think I am. I just don’t make videos.