Do NOT Use 4-Low Offroad || Watch First!

[@MrRjezonie]

I use my 4 low while going over speed bumps at my local mall parking lot in my Jeep 392. Gotta stay safe!

[@TrailBuilt]

lol, can’t be too careful… especially with all those horses powers!! 😂

[@malcolmtaylor111]

You can stop for flex pictures at those too!

[@Zzus321]

Priceless 🤣🤣😅🤣

[@luisri91]

That is way too savage 🥶🤣

[@Frissdas1207]

Complete waste of time if you're not dc/ing dat swaybar, too.

[@Clanc54R]

Definitely rely on 4LO with a manual. Keeps you from needing to slip the clutch to go slow.

[@supdude5481]

Agree 💯

[@TrashmanShazam]

You should look into using both break and gas with 4lo. It's a lifesaver for manuals and how you should be offroading. Keep the brake pressure applied while keeping rpms above stalling and go any speed you want. takes a lot of getting used to and sitting a little strange but it's night and day once you get good at it. I went through 2 heavily smoked clutches on my Explorer before learning this trick.

[@Clanc54R]

@@TrashmanShazam I've had to do that with a Jeep before in Low, but with my Tacoma I don't think it's necessary. 4LO 1st gear will crawl insanely slow. I actually may time it one of these days, and see how long it takes it to fully rotate a tire.

[@TrashmanShazam]

@@Clanc54R I had a 97 Ford Explorer and it did not crawl slow at all in 4 low but I didn’t have low gears. Those Australian 4wd guys that do crazy stuff recommend the technique though

[@Clanc54R]

@@TrashmanShazam absolutely. Gearing makes all the difference in whether you can easily off road a manual, or tow for that matter. That Jeep is my mom's. It's a JKU manual with the 3.21 axles. Even in 4LO that thing would crawl between 1 and 2 mph, which depending on how tight the trail is that's actually a bit fast. I don't think it matters to her though. She only has, and probably only will take it out that one time. My Taco on the other hand has 4.30 axles with a super low 1st gear. Fun for off road, but 2nd is still a bit tall to take off from a stop. So the truck can be very annoying to drive in general. And I don't hate Jeeps, just ones like hers lol. The Rubicon would smoke check mine in a crawl ratio contest.

[@scootypuffjr.]

If you've ever had a transmission temp gauge in a vehicle, you will see much lower transmission temps when using low range in anything slow. Especially mud, sand, etc.

[@TomKirkman1]

Prior to the age of electric radiator fans, you often used 4 low in slow crawling situations just to keep the engine RPMs up high enough so that the water pump mounted fan would spin fast enough to draw sufficient air through the radiator to keep the engine from overheating.

[@jec_ecart]

Omg

[@f87115]

Good ole days

[@swampypolitics9574]

Just learned this in my XJ lol.

[@ridingincircles]

@@f87115 Or the good nowadays for some of us still

[@squirelova1815]

What about them engine starter cranks? Were they any help in a pinch?

[@4buzze1]

So don't use 4lo Offroad except uphill, downhill, on rocks, in mud, in snow, when pulling or stuck. GOT IT

[@spencemad_4x427]

Half the people on the JL forums can’t even get their Jeeps into 4Lo

[@TrailBuilt]

Everyone is different… different styles, different geographical locations, different skill levels… and exactly why we made this video! 😊🤘💯

[@spencemad_4x427]

@@TrailBuilt very true! Your videos are very well done

[@DUNEATV]

LOL

[@rediron44]

Kinda a dick comment. I've been 4 wheeling for 40 years. And just got one. I bet I've used 4 low more than you've been off road.

[@spencemad_4x427]

@@rediron44 you’re probably right

[@shmehfleh3115]

4 Low with a stick shift lets you start the engine with the clutch engaged, so you don't accidentally roll backwards and off the mountain you just stalled on. It also saves your brakes going down steep inclines. It's also really useful in snowy conditions. It lets you drive slowly while keeping your brakes from locking up the wheels that lose traction on ice.

[@xxxYYZxxx]

It's also possible to bump the vehicle forward with just the starter motor in 4lo.

[@chadwalton54]

And with an auto you can just shift it into 1st and it stays in 1st just like with a stick. It's honestly mind-blowing I know.

[@zbow1974]

@@chadwalton54 man you cant be realistic on youtube, that is just insane.

[@baddecisionsoff-roading3243]

Ooooof. Using the transmission to slow down in snow? Depends on how bad that snow is man, It’s possible the engine brake can brake traction, I’d rather use the the ABS system personally. Most cases this is not needed at all mine you.

[@MrBULLRIDER13]

​@@baddecisionsoff-roading3243 abs sucks and is for people that can't drive. That shitty system has given me more trouble then it has ever wished to help.

[@dannyjudge2876]

Four low is a lifesaver especially with manual, whether it’s backing trailers, or off-roading, it makes a 4.6 triton feel like a Cummins

[@ruttlicker1139]

@@bugworld89 how does using 4 low make someone inexperienced? Lol you never been on a real trail

[@David-rj1ru]

@@ruttlicker1139 git em!!!

[@ruttlicker1139]

@@David-rj1ru the comments from people who haven’t spent moderate time on a trail spewing bullshit are hilarious lol but some of them are downright scary how ignorant others can be lol

[@finnishfatman]

@@ruttlicker1139 Wyatt fails to realize that it's actually the experience that will dictate when to use 4low and not the other way around, meaning he doesn't have trail experience 😅 Inexperienced would just state something he says, while experienced knows 4low is there for a reason and knows when to use it 👍

[@JF32304]

Yep, I use 4lo for backing trailers. So much easier.

[@Buckskindrifter]

Also, being in 4 low will save your transmission from excessive wear and heat while out on the trail.

[@Zzus321]

Tru. I toasted 2 Transmission's under warranty on a Jeep and Sold it

[@supersami7748]

@@Zzus321 What capacity was your auxiliary cooler and where was it located?

[@ruttlicker1139]

@@Zzus321 so you ran them n high both times and blamed the Jeep? Lol

[@Zzus321]

@@ruttlicker1139 Payaso I was rock climbing but don't worry yours will be safe at the Mall

[@immelting9834]

I have 2 transmission coolers . Cheap insurance .

[@wrm3016]

Am I the only one who thinks it a bit ironic the video is titled DO NOT use 4 low, and almost the whole first half is shots of Cliffhanger in Moab? I've done that trail and it is 100% 4 Low! Lol.

[@alexjez2061]

The point of the title was to get you to click as the guy goes on to say how to shift into 4low and the advantages.

[@twohandsandaradio]

I was thinking it was bit of a click bait.

[@richardworks481]

Bad title ?

[@richardworks481]

Any Hill 2nd gear four low ,but I drive Toyota

[@1fsttoy]

Having a manual transmission, I use 4 Low anytime I need to go slow over off-road terrain. It’s much easier then working the clutch to control my speed.

[@TrashmanShazam]

You should look into using both break and gas with 4lo. It's a lifesaver for manuals and how you should be offroading. Keep the brake pressure applied while keeping rpms above stalling and go any speed you want. takes a lot of getting used to and sitting a little strange but it's night and day once you get good at it. I went through 2 heavily smoked clutches on my Explorer before learning this trick.

[@ruttlicker1139]

@@TrashmanShazam applying your breaks isn’t saving the clutch at all dude it’s the exact opposite lol If you can’t smoothly navigate a trail you either need to gear the axles or you need dual cases…Applying the brakes at the same time as the gas doesn’t save the clutch what so ever it’s fucking science dude lol

[@Kuj]

@@ruttlicker1139 you can keep the revs higher by applying the brake which does save your clutch. I learned the hard way by not using it and getting the advice from multiple off-road pros many years later.

[@theobstacle]

​@@TrashmanShazam I've offroaded with a manual transmission ('67 CJ5) since the 1980's and I've never heard of this. It might work with an automatic, but it doesn't make sense with a manual transmission -- engine and wheel RPM are directly linked, you're just making your engine work harder by adding resistance with the brakes. You could achieve the same thing by just using the gas pedal properly, and wouldn't wear out your brakes in the process.

[@TrashmanShazam]

@@theobstacle the whole point is to keep the engine reving higher so you can go slower where needed without stalling. It has nothing to do with proper gas’s pedal control. It helps at points where you are in 4-lo and the lowest gear but should still drive slower. Never needed to do this in an automatic as they have the creep features to overcome this though you see it in professional racing for both types of transmissions even at high speed. I got the tip from these guys while driving manuals and I’m pretty sure they know what they are doing as they tackle some of the toughest terrain around In Australia. kzbin.info

[@1111Overland]

On a Jeep, the manufacturer recommends using 4 low anytime you’re off road because it keeps your transmission cooler. Running in 4 high can put high heat stress on the transmission which could lead to early failure (Watch for an alert on the Dash “hot oil!”) Here in Utah we don’t have a lot of mud so when we go down to Moab or up in the mountains around our home we air down the tires and engage 4-low every time. The only time we switch back to 4 high is if we hit a stretch that requires a bit more speed.

[@everettdurst1]

My Jeep says not to exceed 25mph in 4 low, which I ignore, and it doesn't mention anything about cooling with 4 low. I believe I have seen 4 high heating the transmission, and low never has, but I haven't had Jeep mention it.

[@alexburkholder4262]

Thats a great comment thank you!! Most people don't read their manuals and then they don't know whats been "proven safe" by the engineers... and even if they say 25kph its probably safe to do a little over but id say why not keep it a little under!!! Same with switching into 4hi while driving the JT you can do so when driving but make sure your under 73kph and id say max 70 or less if you have bigger tires your speedometer could be off too so you have to consider that, the only reason id switch into 4 hi going 70kph is if I lose traction say in the snow and am worried about crashing or something can just give peace of mind on the fly

[@maxwellkline2766]

Land Rover recommends the same thing (though in my Discovery 2 the top speed is 35mph)

[@zampination]

I use four low in my sidekick vitara when i get stucked in snow or mud in even terains usually and i need to let it in idle with first gear in so all 4 wheels spin and go in the back and either push out the car with a lever like a huge tree branch or go jumping up n down on the towing ball to create momentum so the car can gain traction and drive on itself. Afterwards i chase the car and get back in it and drive away, don't worry it ain't going fast in first gear, idle & 4low, you can catch it easily. This technique got me unstuck in more than 3 occasions without the need of shoveling, most due to the small size and low weight of a 3door Vitara you can wobble it out only by using the gravity of your own body or by finding a strong branch to use it as a lever.

[@G.I.JeffsWorkbench]

Best, clearest and most comprehensive review of when to, & not to, use 4L. Thanks for sharing. Hot tip for all dually owners: if you’re in mud and 4H doesn’t help, 4L might now either. Heavy truck, soft mud / clay = stuck up to your axles. My next spotter won’t make this mistake.

[@brucesmith3430]

Another recommended use for 4-Low is in the SW Desert summers when it's very hot. 4-High will sometimes cause the transmission to overheat and the Jeep will shut down. 4-Low circulates the fluid thru the cooler faster and keeps the transmission cooler. Our Jeep club recommends 4-Low on hot days anytime we're moving slowly to prevent transmission overheating.

[@celticsfaninthedesert4778]

Great advice

[@Harry-zz2oh]

I live near Las Cruces in the SW Desert area. You are right about your comment. I have an automatic tranny but I still need to use 4-low to ensure I get enough cooling. I learned my lesson the hard way (see above). One thing I learned is keep the roof on when you live in the Desert areas since it will keep you cooler and keep some of the dust out. I wear a mask to keep it out of my lungs.

[@jimthefencer5212]

If you have to be in club to be told that you are a princess

[@brucesmith3430]

@@jimthefencer5212 Ah, Jim the Troll, how are you? I love being a princess! I bet you want to kiss me in hopes that you will turn into a handsome prince from a hideous troll. Okay, let's give it a try; give me a big kiss and see what happens! We'll get you out from under that bridge! LOL

[@MrJoey1570]

@@jimthefencer5212 how close together are your eyes?

[@andrefischer5025]

As a 4wd instructor, the simple rule is: High traction surface: 2h Low traction surface, estimated speed above 40kph: 4h Low traction surface, estimated speed below 40kph: 4L Works every day, most situations Aren’t there any 4wd trainings in the US? Btw, if you have a Unimog with 24 forward gears over 3 gear groups - it’s a little different….

[@guyderagisch4964]

No 4wd instructors in US, people learn the hard way.

[@ShaolindaGama]

Is 40km/h not a bit high for 4LO?

[@josephmann6675]

They’d say 25 miles per hour, but that sounds about right. It’d also depend on your gearing too, sometimes 25mph/40kph is an achievement that can near blow the motor up in 4L.

[@andrefischer5025]

@@ShaolindaGama it’s a rule of thumb, like you know you will be for sure below 40kph. Below is the key word here, 4th or 5th gear in 4Lo will do 40 easy, but you don’t want that over long periods. (Talking average 4x4s, not reduction gear rock crawlers or Unimogs)

[@tpv59]

THANK YOU Andre, APPRECIATED.

[@CampingShack]

With a manual transmission 4x4, which are common in Europe, 4L can be really useful when you want to maintain a slow speed, especially when dealing with hills. In 4H its easy to end up riding the clutch to keep your speed down which eventually puts a lot of wear on it and a high risk of burning out your clutch. In 4L you can maintain a much slower speed with more control with your foot completely off the clutch. When dealing with hills its also much harder to stall a manual 4x4 when in low range gears at low speeds. I've even used 4L to navigate out of multi story car parks where the space is tight and the ramp is steep to avoid burning my clutch and being able to crawl up at a controlled speed - it's not only for offroad :)

[@FOXeye95]

@@johnnywhite7717 has nothing to do with that. some cars have a really long gearing for its power or the tires running. My patrol has like 70/80hp on 32''s. I never struggled to use clutch in the right way and I dont ride clutch on hill starts. But to avoid clutch wear just using 4lo is perfect. Why wear something just to be stubborn. Matter of fact my 4Lo can actually be used as a 2Lo as I have manual hub locks, wich is perfect for those pesky hills (my city has lots of serious uphill areas)

[@DaddyRobotX15]

you never , ever enable 4wheel low on concrete, tarmac, asphalt or anything paved . This is deplorable misinformation, respectfully. If you got lucky & were actually able to chirp & jerk your poor jeep around a parking deck in a metropolitan area with it engaged , try it a few more times & come back & tell us how much ring & pinions cost presently since you'll know from having to replace the chipped ring gear teeth you experience. This reply is what drove me away from the Jeep community,fr please don't just spout information on the Internet that is incorrect or that you only know minimal details about. You can affect negative impact on others ,Mr. Burning Clutch

[@leadnsteel1428]

Use 4 Hi most of the time unless you are rock crawling or going down steep hills. 4 low also takes away stress from the transmission and sends it to the driveline but if you can't get out with 4 lo then you are screwed lol. Having good tires is the key

[@dat2ra]

I am a field Geologist (for 30 years) and since I usually work alone, do not use my 4WDs as a rock crawler. My rule of thumb has always been to drive in in 4Hi, keeping 4Lo in case I get stuck. If I drive in in 4Lo, there is nothing to "fall back" on. Sure, there are a lot of trails I can't traverse in 4Hi, but then I walk (or turn around). BTW, in 30 years, I have never been so stuck that I couldn't get myself out.

[@namelessdata4608]

Sounds like you practice common sense

[@KTMcaptain]

4lo is mainly for control but does give torque multiplication for severe grades. It doesn’t give more traction. You are more likely to have a failure in high range and put more stress on your transmission. Unless you have an AWD transfer case that only locks into part time in low range like my old Jeep Quadra Drive system did.

[@AudioFreqx]

I call that detained ^^

[@paulabes4220]

I go off road I start in 2wd then if I get stuck I go to 4wd high then I get stuck I hit the ARB air lockers then if I get stuck I go to 4wd low and if that does not work I go to the winch If that does not work I turn around and go home lol...

[@namelessdata4608]

@@paulabes4220 lmao, brilliant

[@bigsamdog1]

I learned 4 wheeling in Northern Nevada in the 1970's in my dad's stock "65" FJ40. We never went anywhere fast and when we got off the smooth roads it almost always went into 4L, it was so much easier on the rig. And like I said, we never went anywhere in a hurry, but we always got there.

[@bigslacker666]

Funny, I live in northern nevada (tahoe, but we wheel at johnson lane a lot) and almost NEVER use 4lo unless there is crawling to be done. We're often doing 40-60mph untill we hit the side trails, even then 4lo only gets used with there is rock crawling to be done.

[@bigsamdog1]

@@bigslacker666 That's cool. Each to his own style.

[@bigslacker666]

@@bigsamdog1 Definitely, I love seeing hardcore crawlers tackle tough obstacles even though it's not my thing.

[@MoaByte-v2z]

It's a skill to just relax and idle along in 2nd low. Might as well enjoy the scenery and not beat yourself or your rig. Dad's rule was if you need 3rd low you should just go to high range.

[@bigsamdog1]

@@MoaByte-v2z I like that.

[@Oilbleak5453]

4Lo and S1 when going downhill to let your natural engine brake control your speed was one of the best tips I ever got when I was learning. Now I’ll run a trail with a group and the people in front of me are riding their brakes while I’m just cruising.

[@Harry-zz2oh]

I was at a trail event a couple weeks ago (Las Cruces Chile Challenge) and forgot to put my Jeep into 4lo which meant my brakes were used a lot on some of the trails. Once I remembered, I put the tranny in 4lo and first and everything was peachy. I did overheat my power steering but that was on an uphill climb. I should have switched to 4lo to increase the revs. The slope was about 15% over large rock and sliding sand. The transmission stayed right where it was supposed to be but the "hot oil" sign came on.

[@DarylRagland-ds1op]

You should share that info

[@terrydavis9885]

I drive a 93 yj with an Atlas 4 speed, 2.72 low, 4.3 low, and 11.7 low. 2.72 is for trail running between major obstacles. 4.3 is for technical uphill/downhill and rocks. And 11.7 is for crawling over some Prius that cuts me off in parking lots.

[@DUNEATV]

When doing Hells Revenge trail in Moab I found myself switching from 4H to 4L. The obstacles are spread out a bit so that causes you to want to go faster in between the obstacles. My Rubicon is an automatic so it helped a little bit but I still found myself switching it from time to time.

[@malcolmtaylor111]

It would be so nice to be able to move that quick on trails down there. Every time I have run trails in Moab I have been in groups too big to move at 4hi speeds.

[@DUNEATV]

@@malcolmtaylor111 Good point

[@hexnut72]

@@malcolmtaylor111 Go on off weekends or later in the season. Late October to November is a great time to wheel in Moab.

[@malcolmtaylor111]

@@hexnut72 the 21 hour drive to get there makes it a tad harder to pick times.

[@jason20341]

Same thing I did last week.

[@Night-Owl-]

I got aff of my 11pm shift and decided to take a trail back home (on that connects from my work to town) and I figure I'll explore a bit since I knew the area pretty well. I come on an old fig site and see an elevated area since I'm trying to exit onto the main trail nearby. Turns out my 2dr jk car get high centered on the crest. I spend an hour and a half digging and stacking rocks which only helped a little. Finally I grabe a flat rock and my hi lift and jack up the rear while I'm in 1st gear lo with lockers and she finally got traction an walked off of her belly. Mean while I'm running to jump in the driver seat and stop her since she's finally free. Definitely an education experience. Always scout out a line! Dont wheel alone. Most importantly is to have a way to self recover. Especially if it your daily. Someday either you or some one you're helping will need it.

[@christian-hp8rg]

I use four low every once and a while when there’s really steep inclines or drops it’s just better on your brakes and will help not to strain the engine as much going up if you got it might as well use it

[@highwiredaysgigdriver9417]

🎯🍻

[@Chris-D9]

I did until I got a vehicle with hill decent control...that shit awesome!

[@Harry-zz2oh]

@@Chris-D9 I'm still trying to figure out the hill decent control for my 11 JKU Rubicon. It isn't really covered very well in the manual and most of the people I go out with have newer Jeeps or old TJ's or FJs.

[@bradcampbell7253]

Think of it this way- 4low gets better leverage from your engine's available power , to turn your wheels. The t case gives you improved leverage over the tire's height and it's resistance to rolling.

[@bradcampbell7253]

@@Harry-zz2oh harry for going off road down a hill, get in 4low, and in first gear. Let it idle as it goes on down .be careful in case it does not have engine braking feature

[@timbaker4423]

Used my Jeep's 4-low two weeks ago to pull a semi tractor out of a grass lot that was on a slight incline covered with about two inches of snow.

[@LGoody9273]

Another use for 4 lo is for all of us that have jumped up several tire sizes and can't afford re-gearing. I like to call it the overdrive delete mod.

[@creigfitzpatrick5442]

With living here in Pittsburgh I have to deal with a lot of hills which is fine during the better months but winter is another story. This winter we've had about 3-4 significant snow storms and I'm out driving in them up and down some rather steep hills. 4L helps a great deal when I am descending a street on a hill. Before reaching the street I put my Jeep in 4L and put it in 1st gear (I have the 6 speed manual) and basically let it "crawl" down the hill not braking or giving too much gas. It gives me better control and I'm not touching the brakes constantly which in my mind braking going down an incline in snowy conditions will cause me to start sliding. This is my 1st time having a 4X4 and I'm loving it! Makes driving in bad conditions easier and yes, enjoyable! I look forward to a bad winter storm now!

[@olliehopnoodle4628]

Swapping in an Atlas 4 speed transfer case is one of the best mods I have done. Yeah, it took me 6 weekends on my garage floor to get it all in place and working but the options it provides made it all worth it. Mine is a 2.0/2.72/5.44. I pretty much just put in into 2 to 1 as soon as I hit the dirt. I have never been a fan of 'waiting till I get stuck' to put it into lo. This ratio works well for most situations but still allows a bit of speed. I usually just have it in 2wd but when I come up to something I will engage the front wheels. For longer down hills I will put it in 2.72 for the engine brake and I use this gear on more difficult obstacles. When it gets a bit more hairy then you can't beat the control of a lower ratio like 5.44 which keeps me from having to get too much on the gas and avoids breaking stuff.

[@THatChevyguy91]

I extremely want to do a atlas in my xj. Though about doing the np231 doubler kit but atlas’s seems to be the way to go

[@brihno360]

I'm a big fan of 4-Lo in second gear (manual trans). In the trucks I've had that seems to be a good final ratio for getting torque to the ground but still having decent wheel speed for a lot of situations

[@jericho86]

2 years later, and this was the comment I wanted to see. It should be higher up.

[@jrt77339]

I learned to drive in my mom's 1957 Pink CJ in the early 60s and taught my son to drive in a 1992 YJ in low range. Few engine stalls and learn smooth quick shifting. A granddaughter now wants a stick Wrangler as her first car.

[@jjc4577]

I have a 95 YJ now and will not give up the very simple NP238 two speed transfer case. This, combined with the 5 speed manual means that at most, going from 2hi to 4hi to 4lo is simply a matter of using a little clutch and it slips right in. Far more reliable than all the complicated computer controlled t-case/transmissions on most modern trucks.

[@timolheiser7874]

The manual says to drive at 5 mph then shift to neutral. As the unit rolls, shift the transfer case into 4 low. Then shift the transmission into drive. This prevents binding and aids one shifting faster. I've tried it, and it makes shifting into 4 low rather easy.

[@wrileefilms2080]

I once rolled 90 degrees onto my side and used 4Lo to get back upright so I could drive home.

[@johnossendorf9979]

I use 4-low for plowing snow and use 2nd gear more than 1st gear. One of the cool things about a manual transmissions is you can choose to use 1st, 2nd or 3rd gear from a dead stop and know it will stay in that gear until you choose to change it.

[@zachsheffee8458]

A lot of automatics have that selection.

[@sweet65mustang]

I'm building a truck right now and just took the 1.8:1 lo range gears out and put in 4.24:1. I also installed a set of twin sticks that separate the 2 wheel drive-4 wheel drive and the hi-low into 2 separate levers. For those that don't know it give you the option of 2 low and true neutral at the tcase

[@jswinfre]

One often overlooked detail when using 4 low with an Auto to provide engine braking, is that you really need to also shift the transmission down through the lower gears too or it will just freewheel and still burn up your brakes. Also if I'm going up a steep grade for an extended time, I will also use 4 low to keep the tranny from getting hot and let it shift up into high gear where you can still do 25 mph and save your trans...it will run WAY cooler doing that.

[@zainabe9503]

So with all these gizmos trying to nanny the human, the human ends up nannying the nannies in order to get the job done. Whew thank goodness my ute is old school.

[@motafinga6652]

@@zainabe9503 This applies to any auto trans, I use it on my 98 first gen Tacoma and 97 F250. No special gizmos on either truck, unless an auto trans is considered a "gizmo"

[@zainabe9503]

@@motafinga6652 naw, an auto trans is considered a BLASPHEMEY 🤭🤭

[@Nigriff]

@@zainabe9503 ok Boomer

[@Nigriff]

@@zainabe9503 a car is blasphemy, technology is awful, we should all just walk around Barefoot

[@grantdavis5992]

I taught my daughter to drive a stick in my XJ in low range on a dirt road. No issue of stalling because she dumped the clutch. I had taught my son to drive a stick on a snowy parking lot in the middle of the night in our Volvo. I had learned to drive a stick in a 54 Chevy sedan, but I might have stalled it a few times. LOL

[@grantdavis5992]

Now my 5 spd Tacoma goes into 4 Lo when I am towing a trailer loaded with wood up a gravel road with a 15% grade. I like that it makes a close ratio.

[@markalexander774]

I commute to my office job in 4 low with the differentials locked and the sway bar disconnected.

[@bradcampbell7253]

Don't exceed the recommended speeds in 4 low. 25 to 30 mph is asking for trouble. Use 4 low, get thru obstacle, move back to 4 hi. Keep t case in 4wd hi or low at all times, esp if you are open front and rear, lsd/ open, or lsd / lunchbox. Use 4 hi in the rain in town. In deeper snow the engines leverage over the tire's traction can cause tires to spin and loss of gription. If you in deep snow and running the engine hard, just move down to 4 low.

[@thedealer799]

I drive a 6 speed Tacoma. I ALWAYS USE 4LO. You couldn't tell me any other way. Snow, mud, trail. Works great.

[@mcal9320]

I have a manual transmission. 4low is pretty critical. You try managing clutch, and RPMs at 4 high in some iffy spots. In 4 low, its nearly impossible to stall out.

[@sensiblecougar2723]

I agree, I used to have a manual Tacoma with the lil 4 banger. 4lo is what made the most sense in most obstacles, even if it was starting off in 3rd

[@werewheeling5204]

I love 4 Low when on the rocks or pulling other vehicles out of bad spots . 4 High or Full Time 4 wheel Drive for most mud and snow . These videos are awesome great job keep on Wheeling !!

[@brianlombardi8390]

Great video and great information. I have a newer vehicle, and I just recently figured out that going into 4 low will automatically disable traction control and anti-skid. This makes the truck perform way better. I have since read the manual and learned how to disable those in 2 wheel and 4 high, but going into 4 low is what clued me into it.

[@TrailBuilt]

Glad it was helpful! We definitely appreciate the support!

[@member369240sx]

Good info...But the big difference in 4lo is with a manual or Automatic...Manual 4lo 6 Speed JKU 2.8CRD 2nd gear is the best to climb with for me on 33's and 3'21's...and yes depending on the length of the hill. 100-300meters 30+ incline and mash it...In an automatic..unless you select your gear the risk is it to shift gears mid climb and either dog the motor slowing you down and/or kill , Also the other side shift abruptly and cause you to loose traction and maybe control. All of which on either transmission only comes with knowing your vehicle and how it behaves. Great Advice to seek out a club...and don't be shy to ask who in the club could give you some pointers. We all started at one point and time...35 years of wheeling and I still learn something new everyday! Stay Safe Wheel on!!!

[@thatairplaneguy]

As you said, it’s very situational. I stay in 4hi until I come to a steep hill, or need precise control. Imho this limits the strain on the drivetrain vs staying in 4lo all the time, heating up the transmission unnecessarily.

[@danielalamo2075]

Awesome explanation!! I also use 4 low to pull out my trailer with the water tanks. It sits for months. But I fill it every other day with water for the cattle. When I move the cattle to the other pasture, I move the trailer and troughs. I use 4 low to get the trailer out because it has settled.

[@TrailBuilt]

Good stuff! Thanks for watching Daniel!

[@sashameetsfitness]

4LO + manual feels best to me. I feel the most in control that way

[@theeddorian]

The low gear in my old, 1990 Isuzu Trooper would creep along at a slow walking pace. Uphill, downhill, and on the level. While I don't recommend this, it can allow you to hop out and look at the rout ahead or steer through the window where the obstacles are small boulders. I usually would stop and switch to four low for rough, tricky patches or really steep slopes when going down. You mentioned doing that before your brakes over heat.

[@samleeroy5638]

On steep slopes. Downhill off road the 4 low acts as a good engine brake to get that controlled braking on point

[@TrailBuilt]

Welcome to the family Bobo, what kinda of rig are you running?

[@oregonfordguy9812]

I use 4 low and my secondary low range box as-needed. but the truck is purpose built. so I use whatever is needed. 300ci 4spd 203/205 4.10s on 38s. full blown crawler.

[@heiko272]

I sometimes use 4Low with the hubs unlocked when backing up into a tight parking spot on an incline. Love that extra control and only having to move it with the clutch. 4Low 2nd gear is great when descending hills in snow and ice.

[@zach23ize]

Does this apply to auto transmissions? I have a nasty hill that ends with a traffic light. Would switching into 4LO and putting it into second gear accomplish better traction on the decline?

[@heiko272]

@@zach23ize yes that should help. Let the engine do the braking, don’t touch the brakes until you get to the bottom.

[@svstreetreeman7075]

I use 4 low only when going down hill on A lose terrain keeping the trans in low to use the engine for braking

[@ickess]

I used 4 low when pulling my daughters car out of a ditch with two flat tires. Used 4 high on the beach all the time.

[@liorelbaz]

On some vehicle if you drive on high you have the traction control on and you can only disconnected when is 4low so example you will climb Sandy Hill or something similar when you need a lot of momentum and lose all the power so you must go in 4 low. Also sprinter van four-wheel drive the 4 low it's still fast so it's recommended when you go on a trails just go 4low.

[@jamessilasiri9626]

An excellent teaching video for both newbs and experienced offroaders alike. We all need sound advice as reminders to avoid a costly repair.

[@racefoxxproductions8975]

I used 4 lo when I had a 1999 gmc jimmy I was stuck in the snow the vehicles front axle didn't lock but transfer case did work so I put it in 4 lo and backed up and it got out of the snow

[@ncd7184]

My 06 Durango is unusual. The front differential is a d44 variant pumpkin with cv axles. It came with a single speed transfer case. It's full-time AWD and then you can put it in '4-lock' which essentially is 4hi. So my thought process for off-road is keeping tires between 31"-33", installing a supplemental transmission cooler, transmission temp gauge and shifting into 1st gear on ascents and descents. I'm in Colorado so this is really a challenge with steep trails.

[@jerkyturkey007]

I agree, I watch many off road youtube channels and in my experience they all way over use low range, not that many situations call for it. If you over torque the drivetrain the tires break traction too easily, gear selection is key to overcoming just about any obstacle.

[@adame924]

This is the issue I run into while backing my travel trailer up the grass-covered hill into my yard. 4-HI backs up nicely 4-LO I'm digging holes. :)

[@brandonghostdogdintelman5845]

I’m fairly new to the off-road world and these videos are super informative!! Thanks guys! Keep up the great work!

[@TrailBuilt]

We appreciate the support Brandon! Thanks for watching!

[@JoeJ-8282]

May be a rather misleading video title, as it should've been something more like "Know WHEN to Use 4-Low vs. 4-Hi" or something similar, rather than simply "Do NOT Use...", but other than that, this video has some good info to know.

[@earache_srt8790]

You put a lot of thought and experience into this video. I have been many places in 2wd that have surprised a few in the Rockies. My grandfather was a good driver/teacher. I now have a heavy duty 4x4 for both towing and off road. My family is always concerned that I will push something to hard. I have been lucky enough I guess since the worst that I have had to deal with were flat tires.

[@TrailBuilt]

Thanks so much Eric! The best lessons are the ones you learn from your Dad or Grandad!

[@overlandready]

The key is to know your vehicle! I can use 4 low at any point as I have a full time 4wd with a centre differential. The simple point here is low box is always 4 low. high box is always 4 high, there is no 2wd. So, stability is better on all surfaces, there is less chance of drive train wind up, I can also swap hi to low at 5mph or less, so don't even have to stop! I also can engage diff lock at any speed! I use low box for anything off tarmac if manual and anything taxing if auto - so a lot less. Low in the auto is basically being nice to the gearbox. Generally I don't get stuck as knowing where to place wheels and when to back out and/or give up/winch is a good thing to know.

[@bongomonkey1]

As a "newb" myself, I found this video helpful. Thanks for posting!

[@tumblew33d69]

If you've got to watch a video on KZbin to figure out what gear you need to be in you probably shouldn't be in the vehicle in the first place especially if you're taking advice from this dork

[@billgarrison5654]

I’ve seen/smelled guys burn up a lot of clutches staying if 4H out on the trails.

[@d.s7741]

😮

[@galenledbetter8014]

This opinion is definitely subjective. On Yota’s, the Crawl Control feature is only active in 4L.

[@trappervirginia1368]

I like to use 4 low in soft sand to run rpms up to help cool the motor

[@henrikm4657]

Good info, but the video title is clickbait-ish. Something like "Learn how to properly use your selectable 4WD system" would have been more honest.

[@bugsnstuff5643]

It's easier for 4 low to engage if you actually moving 2-3 mph. If completely stopped the transfer case gears can be misaligned and make it difficult to get it to shift. My owners manual actually says to shift the trans in to neutral and the the transfer case into low at 2-5 mph. Makes for a smooth transition.

[@MrCN173]

My Ram manual states the same

[@donaldlavigne949]

For me the hard one is being faced with a good size run through mud and water. Like more than 300 feet. Always seems it's better to keep moving quickly and stay on top whereas in lo there is more chance to sink. I have made it through often in hi that way but I have still buried it that way as well LOL

[@OklahomaLoneWolf]

Lol this is exactly the question I come here looking for the answer on. I think I need to stay with 4hi and use momentum to get me out.

[@jjlawnservice5229]

I rarely use 4 low my last truck 6.0 Silverado had enough torque to do most anything I needed in 4 high I fo like it for going down slippery hills and for heavy pulling pulled a tree stump out with my Silverado in 4 low never spun a tire did not hardly work ripped a foot round hole in the ground

[@JamesSmith-uc8tk]

I am not an expert, but in my experience: 4Hi for the beach and/or relatively maintained forest roads 4Lo for mountain trails

[@jamesalexander958]

I went cruising around the beach in 4hi and saw my trans temps climb too high. 4lo is good for me in the sand

[@JamesSmith-uc8tk]

@@jamesalexander958 Weird. The only time my trans temp climbed too high on the beach was because I didn't know my Liberty's front skid plate was caked in mud. That didn't allow for enough airflow and the trans temp light came on. Otherwise, in my current JKU, the engine temp rises slightly, but no issue.

[@jamesalexander958]

@@JamesSmith-uc8tk there's many factors like air temp, how deep the sand is, and how crazy you drive. Deep sand will build up heat

[@johnterpack3940]

I read something years ago that has stuck with me-- never cross an obstacle that *requires* 4-wheel (especially 4-lo) on your way to your destination. Obviously this doesn't apply when you're just out 'wheeling for giggles. But the logic is sound. That mudhole or gulley that needed 4x to get across in one direction may be impassable in the other. Or if something in the 4x system breaks after crossing it, you will be stuck coming back. Basically, 4x should be treated like an emergency device to get you home rather than a tool to get you as deep into the wilderness as possible. But, again, this is just a general guideline that won't necessarily apply in all situations.

[@zampination]

This is sound advice actually. I do exactly that, i always go anywhere on trails on 2wd, usually I don't even need to engage 4wd or 4low for that matter. I keep those for the really hard passages and then i disengage them and keep moving on in 2wd. With a good set of tyres and proper momentum even 2wd on the rear wheels can get you very far into the woods. Of course if the inclination is too steep i would engage 4low to save the transfer case and my clutch from excessive wear.

[@nicholascooper1193]

It took a while to convince my Dad to put his farm trucks in Low to ease around the farm, even with the hubs unlocked. I put my Tacoma in low at a drive through if there is a line... But it's old, has manual hubs and tcase, and the tcase shifts super easy.

[@fredeschen3783]

I use low range for backing up to trailers in challenging spots.

[@ElleryBaker]

When you hit the trailhead, put it in 4L. This guy talks like people go back and forth between 4H and 4L constantly. When you go off-road, put it in 4L and know your gear ratios. Need more speed? Don’t go 4H - put it in a higher gear. Example: stock JK Rubicon (3.6L) with manual transmission. 6th gear in 4L is approximately the same as 2nd gear in 4H. So - probably the only time you need to go back to 4H is if you’re truly overlanding or “commuting” long distance dirt roads between trails or obstacles. If you have a tcase with low range around 2.8:1 (instead of something deeper like 4:1), you basically never need to leave 4L when off-road. It’s all numbers. Know your rig.

[@johnvon9268]

yep, 100 % I know there are not too many trails i wheel on that i can use 4H haha

[@TheLittlered1961]

I totally agree. I have a YJ. As soon as I hit the dirt I am in 4 low. It does not matter if a 2 wheel drive pickup can drive the road. I love, the control it gives me, I have a manual. I end up using the brakes far less and the driving is very easy.

[@ruttlicker1139]

High range is for driving in town in the snow or backroads that aren’t very steep lol it amazes me that some people are convinced 4 low only has 1 gear 😂😂 4 low just hides all the other gears into its ass I guess

[@DaOzMan0608]

I am literally ALWAYS in 4H. Highway, street, driving over curbs, and trails. Always. Then again I drive a Lexus GX 460.

[@NigelNaughton]

Great vid...remember in automatics you can usually shift to "Lo" or "1" to get better control and keep it in that gear. Another thing that can happen that's sometimes not so good is that when switching to 4-Low is that it locks the center diff and you will get binding if you are trying to turn. On the 80 series Land Cruiser (best vehicle ever) there's a mod where you can selectively engage and disengage the center diff even when switching to 4-Low.

[@bradcampbell7253]

If you drive a 500 dollar Cherokee with auto trans and cant get into and stay in 1st gear, pull the fuse out of the holder under the glovebox . It will stay in first till you replace it. You can also rig that with a switch and place it near your shifter. Open the circuit to bring to 1st. Close for normal driving.

[@NigelNaughton]

@@bradcampbell7253 cool mod 👍

[@bradcampbell7253]

@@NigelNaughton huge problem as I see it is with the auto, you can't use hi or low in first gear. It quickly shifts to 2nd gear when you just need it to stay in 1st and clear your obstacle.

[@NigelNaughton]

@@bradcampbell7253 I have a 1997 Land Cruiser and I'm able to shift to low or 2nd gear in either high range or low range and it stays in the gear chosen until I manually change it. It even has a button where I can start out in 2nd gear so I'm not spinning the tires if stuck.

[@bradcampbell7253]

@@NigelNaughton lucky skunk lol

[@ughsamecard3283]

Had a 73 Chevy 4.56 gears 3 speed granny low. Was great for bucking hay in fields. Didn’t even have to be in the truck, Just threw hay into the truck and turned the wheel with the curve of the field when needed. . The sprinkler ruts didn’t even stop it. It would climb a wall and could not pass a gas station I miss that ol truck!

[@Aqwanermuk]

I always put my Jeep in 4High when I drive through campus, because girls like it. When I drive by guys on campus, I put it in neutral and Rev my 2.0L turbo with my oversize muffler. It sounds just like 1996 Honda Prelude with Vtec. But when I'm in the drive thru at Culver's, I always use 4Low because then I can drive up the curb and park halfway up the landscaping and represent properly.

[@samsteward8152]

I live on the outer banks, and most of my off roading consists of driving on the beach. since I drive a 1st gen tacoma, my rig is so light that there's not much strain on the drive train in 4h and I don't need the extra torque because I pretty much float over everything. the only time I really ever use 4 low is when doing a recovery.

[@baloghlcb]

4lo also really helps with my F250 on trails at really high elevations since it's a pain to get a bigger aftermarket turbo spooled up.

[@wiciuwiciu2783]

I use 4low during city and town traffic. It's great to leap in to the free spot or crawl 2km/h in traffic jam. But in my Bubaru it's super easy to engage it

[@CoreyDowning]

I think some talk about driving in snow could be much used. On and off trail. Ski season officially started in Colorado this weekend.

[@fjb4932]

If you have a Toyota truck, shift it into 4Lo about once a month or so. Keeps everything lubed and ready for when it's needed. Use it, or lose it ...

[@happybobummy]

Title to the vid is click baity, but good info. I run east coast trails in my second gen Tacoma and almost always use 4lo. My truck is also a stick though, so I'm always aware of throttle and shifting, because, if I'm not, it won't go too far haha.

[@locker1962]

I use 4L and 2L (twinstick) all the time in my BB 78 Blazer with 4.88 gears and NV4500. Where I don't use it is on steep snowy/icy hills, if the truck starts to slide I want the speed to catch up to the slide, 4L doesn't seem to work for me in these conditions . Nice Vid, thanks

[@kiaranritchie3021]

I always say 4-low is easy mode. I can usually just modulate the brakes as the idle power is enough to let the vehicle crawl up/over things. If throttle is needed, the response is nice and smooth. It's much easier and safer than getting the engine into high revs and lurching over obstacles. Much much safer when you're near any type of exposure or dangerous trail conditions.

[@jthomp997]

Guessing you're talking about a automatic... that is exactly how you burn up your transmission. Just letting it idle and throttle to go over things slowly is just putting so much unnecessary stress on your torque converter It's not "easy mode". It's called being smart and utilizing the tools you have.

[@SteelWolf13]

Good Vid. Owned Jeeps for years. Got my first JLU this year '24. 2020 Sahara with the angry jeep grill.. 1997 Grand Cherokee(kids beater/daily) and 2008 Commander (wifes daily)

[@nigelbarker8726]

It's probably a good idea to use whichever gear you need to in order to keep your engine spinning in the flat part of the torque curve.

[@dougenyart9243]

So simple put it give you maniacal advantage also if you're in soft sand I always look at my transmission temperatures if it gets to high or over about 220 or so put it in 4 low this will put you in a higher gears and lower your temperatures just by driving hopefully this helps you out as well

[@450ktm520]

I guess this was for someone who just bought a 4x4 or someone younger than 35 years old. Rev limiters dont work on deceleration so you can break a rocker arm or cause an issue. There's alway a weak link so you dont destroy the major part to the drive train. Bring extra part, drive shaft, CV, 1350, That's about it. If you dont have anything over 35s you'd have to punch it to break it. Typically that will be wet and muddy. The rest you'll learn along the way.... but wait 97% of folks are too scared to build and try anything cause they dont want to screw up, or waste money. If you bought a 4x4, that's what's it's all about. Unless you just like the looks, which in that case hang out and continue to built it out.

[@Aqwanermuk]

Brad Deaton might have a child or friend under the age of 35. So be careful, you might offend him. Lmao

[@TWIRKNOLOVE]

You'll probably bend a valve before breaking a rocker.

[@Harry-zz2oh]

I don't agree with your comment. I've owned a 4x4 for many years but a Jeep only about ten years. However, I've been going off road since the 1960's when I first learned to drive. Most of the time, I only had a 4x2 so it worked; I found I could get more places driving in reverse than many people could get driving forward. We all learn different things at different stages of our lives. I think it is better to learn late than never. Have fun.

[@debluetailfly]

I have had need of 4L in my Chevota FJ60. It has an NP205 transfer case, so the ratio is not as low as many others. Kind of wish I had the ability to lock the rear diff. Not many places to go anymore where I live where you need 4WD. I used to cross a creek on a county road where there was a deep water crossing. 4H was nice on that gravel bottom when water was almost halfway up sheet metal on the doors. Crossed a couple of times in a small 2WD PU with a PowerBrute rear end. Once I didn't know a hole had washed out and the hood went under water for a moment. Fortunately, it didn't suck any water into the engine, but was kinda scary. The county moved the road to a place that didn't wash out so bad. The only people who still lived back there had an old army truck they would use if the water got up.

[@mattwilson3634]

i use my 4-LO when setting up my camper. it helps when pushing the camper on the wooden boards and "levelers". i've noticed it's much smoother because i'm not having to use as much throttle to get the camper leveled. honestly it's rarely necessary, just makes the job a little easier.

[@adame924]

I seem to run into the opposite problem when backing my TT up the grass hill to get it into my side yard. In 4-LO I seem to spin tires more while in 4-HI it backs right up. Maybe I'm just using too much throttle.

[@TheLittlered1961]

Dead stop for going into 4 low? I highly question that. Granted the last Jeep manual I read was in the 70's. The manual read that you should be traveling 5 to 10 mph, in neutral when shifting into and out of 4 low. I have a YJ. As soon as I hit the dirt I am in 4 low. It does not matter if a 2 wheel drive pickup can drive the road. I love the control it gives me, I have a manual. I end up using the brakes far less and the driving is very easy. After all you should not be driving faster than 25 mph on dirt.

[@brettheiner7125]

4H 4L is no different than running gears with a MT - let the machine tell you where it’s happy.

[@Mike-gw9yt]

Are you suggesting that it's perfectly fine to leave your stock 3.73 gears alone, go up on your tires to some 44" boggers and just leave the transfer case in low range?

[@brettheiner7125]

@@Mike-gw9yt - not at all. Bigger tires are a physics equation that needs to be balanced with parts to match.

[@Mike-gw9yt]

@@brettheiner7125 ...... I'm just trying to make sense of your original comment. "4H 4L is no different than running gears". Running gears are a world of difference compared to your T-case ranges.

[@heavymetalmadness666]

Because 4 low is used so rarely, you might want to try it out close to home before you try it out on a trail. I had a Ramcharger way back and it went into 4 low, but had a hell of a time getting it back out, and needed to travel at highway speeds to get back home.

[@RagingBad]

On average what's the highest speed you can use 4low safely?

[@Reverend1776]

If you are asking, you are going too fast. 4lo is important but you should be cognizant of the terrain or obstacles you are navigating. Most owners manuals will also suggest.

[@TrailBuilt]

I'd slow down once you start seeing flames coming out from under your rig! Otherwise, good judgement will determine your max speed, ie: keep the Revs out of the red, tight, narrow trails will keep you going slow, wide open roads, just shift it to 4-hi or 2-hi depending on the terrain, etc. 😎

[@gwood69]

I wouldn’t go over 15 20-25 is really pushing it you’re gonna over heat and make your engine very mad lol I wouldn’t go over 20 for more than 5 seconds at a time and I’d recommend only doing it 3-5 times in a 2 hour span lol

[@RagingBad]

@@TrailBuilt thanks 😄

[@RagingBad]

@@Reverend1776 not necessarily, why are you assuming without enough information?

[@homegamerwelder8834]

I drive only 2 'trails' around me in 4L, in a Suzuki Sidekick. One is very steep trail that leads to a mountain road when it's been raining a couple of days and 4H won't pull me up. Another time is on again very steep grassy hill where I need to drive about 25 meters sideways and it gives me better control of the car.

[@johndavidwolf4239]

If you have a manual transmission, never "go" anywhere in first gear, low range, always second, as first is reserved for getting you out of where where you got stuck.

[@gabemiller9873]

Same thing keeping all my lockers off till I get into trouble 😂

[@aaronschug6671]

Depends on what you drive in ways too. I have an older vehicle, 1999 Montero. As soon as I get to a trail I go to 4LLc. Belt driven water/oil pump and fans, the higher RPMs keep the flow up which cools the engine and transmission better. I almost never use 4HLc even in snow because the Montero has 4H without a locked T-case, basically resembling AWD. Even in the deepest snow I've only ever needed that mode.

[@zainabe9503]

What wait, there's all these weird new terminologies 4HiLl 4LLC 4inc 4GmbH apparently I WILL not miss much living under a rock.

[@aaronschug6671]

@@zainabe9503 they aren't new actually, it's part of Mitsubishi's Super Select All Wheel Control system that was invented in 1991. There is 2H, 4H = 4WD without transfer case lock (basically AWD), 4HLc = 4WD Hi with transfer case locked, and then 4LLc = 4WD Low with transfer case lock. So yeah stay under your rock.

[@zainabe9503]

@@aaronschug6671 LOL I don't buy for a second the newspeak invented by Mistubishi propaganda department. But yeah, I'm doing fine living under my rock. At least I can be certain AND sure that mechanical LSD will lock up my rear wheels a bit, instead of being nannied by those gizmos you spelled.

[@aaronschug6671]

@@zainabe9503 a marketing campaign for 4WD systems is propaganda to you? The Montero has rear differential Locker from factory, cool LSD though I guess? Not sure why that's any part of your argument. Poor guy, you must be terrified of the world under your rock LMAO. Sounds more to me like you are backpedaling because you are trolling the Internet, think since you haven't heard of it, it can't be real. Only to realize that it is and look idiotic. Keep trying you poor little keyboard warrior 😂