Trails in the Sky SC Loewe Nightmare

[@shamu8dc54]

the most impressive part about this fight is you went through the whole thing without the turbo button

[@ashce10]

Ikr, fantastic game but the animations move at a snails pace

[@EdgyEmoLoliconBoy]

Even without skip

[@OTioRean]

There's was no turbo button back them and I mean sometimes in jrpgs the little dubs are so good that you never wanna skip...at keast that's me

[@alfianardiansyah6663]

@@OTioRean this is pc port, SC released on 29 oct 2015, this fight is 2 weeks later. XSEED already implement so many features included turbo mode.

[@OOO-gm2sn]

@@alfianardiansyah6663 could be recorded much earlier

[@ShadowS.R.]

The final boss was a piece of cake...Honestly. This fight was litteraly the HARDEST. Thank God that Loewe doesn't have a second form having twice (or thrice) his actual stats.

[@maxjohnson65]

This seems like a growing trend in the trails games...McBurn was easily harder than the bosses after him in CSII as well unless you decided to cheese the fight with cheap setups and builds. (And almost every fight can be cheesed like that so that doesn't really say much).

[@nabiru9050]

Fact

[@nesoukkefka1741]

@@maxjohnson65 Honnestly nope, McBurn was a piece of cake to me compare to Vermillion Apocalypse and the True Final Boss.

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

@@nesoukkefka1741 still took me 2 wipes before (i didnt retry) but i managed to destroy mc burn not so hard. The fight took ages but it was easy to just block everithing he fires on you, while loves monster destroyed my earthwalls first and then with his s-craft lowe instantly killed half of my team and the rest had barely any hp.... And only with la crest beeing up. Without lacrest he just instantly killed us even with outattacks he did 10k dmg.

[@nikolaikolev8433]

Or thank god he dont heal like bitch, like in FC.

[@Desregaurd]

I just beat SC and I didn't even realize how godly Kevin was. My setup was was Olivier and Scherazard because I have a fondness for the Classic 4-party crew I first started with in the series. Even so, it ended up being incredibly effective as I'd have Schera and Estelle on Earth Wall/Gaia Shield rushing with Schera's Heaven Kiss to turbo out their actions and left Death Screaming to OIivier (who I had the Gladiator Belt on) and Joshua. When Olivier wasn't Death Screaming, I'd have him constantly using his Quick Draw with a Strike 2 and Ruby Quartz to act as a substitute Death Scream as the damage ended up being relatively the same as a Death Scream if he got the Strike Crit.and was really effective at just mowing down groups of enemies. He was without a doubt the party member that carried me in quite a number of Nightmare fights because of how effective a gunner he was in the back.

[@sleepyprinny]

Kevin is your BEST FRIEND the end game bosses, and Renne. Not bringing him is borderline suicidal for this fight. Clock Up EX, Earth Wall and fast casting are mandatory...and grail lockets. You should have 4 by the time you hit your first NG+ so yay!

[@mcburn344]

I didn't bring him I brought Muller and the solider women

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

where did you get these grail lockets? i opened every chest I could find any I was scanning through every dungeon with hawks eyes, still I had only 2 of them....

[@nikolaikolev8433]

In the psp version, i remember that Kevin and Muller were unavailable party members for these fights.

[@angelwater8987]

When Loewe can use earth guard: Wait that's illegal

[@NineLives99999]

i was mind blown when he used earth guard mk2 in fc

[@genericgamer9910]

Honestly, I didn't mind him spending turns casting Earth Wall. Because that meant turns aren't spent turning my team into finely shredded ground beef.

[@ShroomRPG]

Damn bro, it took me like 6 attempts and a fuckton of items to beat him on Normal, so kudos to your attempt here, I'll have to learn these strats if I ever replay SC

[@maryjeancajes5154]

OMG. WE USED THE SAME TEAM. I think this is the optimal ( team for nightmare. Kloe for revive and healing and Kevin (a MUST) to avoid getting knocked out.

[@canasnewell3089]

This is the optimal team for nm. Though not for this fight as unless you're absurdly overleveled, Kloe gets 1-hit killed which makes Olivier slightly better imo. Though I'm kinda nitpicking at this point.

[@eduardojara6955]

Funny it seems that everyone used this team. What I find hilarious is that in the Lowe Manga, the team that is used is Kloe and Agate, not Kevin

[@katomamundara8106]

​@@eduardojara6955 Probably because despite SC picking Kevin for this sets up TC, Kloe and Agate are the Non-Brights with the most to gain from overcoming Loewe. Kloe needs to prove her ideology versus Loewe pertaining to the Orbment discussion from FC, and since the end of the fist chapter of FC when he first ran into Loewe/"Lorence", Agate has been chasing Loewe, trying to overcome the man who represents the worst he could have become and prove him wrong. That's why those 2 are in the manga.

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

@@eduardojara6955 i used sherazard and estelle. they carried me through everithing relatively easy except lowe....

[@EdwinWade]

I just finished this game today (Hard mode) and thanks for the video above for the insight. My team for this was Kevin(a MUST just for this battle only) and scherazard (her heaven kiss is the shit because it enables more strategies that you can control) I was against using Kloe because all she can do is just heal...and her crafts aren't that useful. It was a nice ending to choose schera too, so she can quote in and see her two disciples grow and mature right before her eyes. Though idk if it has any effect on the 'extra' dialogue and defeating Loewe was the toughest boss in the entire game!!! His limits were some BS...KO's the entire team if their HP was not above 9000. Not even the final FINAL boss was hard.

[@renatodepaiva]

I cant thank you enough for your video! I watched it before trying the battle and won it 1st time (on hard). I didnt have EVERY single lvl 5 gem for Kevin and i also didnt have some of the equips but it worked for me!

[@AbadllahDeBourgogne]

Congrats to the author. Took him out myself but I was level 95-96... and it was still tough as f*ck.

[@lancelindlelee7256]

We used the same team for the fight. With Kevin though, I has him set up to use Zodiac. Quite powerful and with the Onyx gem, very quick cast.

[@TheRainbowBroX]

Dude... Loewe fight is gonna be insane in the remake.

[@Highwind1520]

What the hell is that in 11:44!? 11574 critical hit!? Holy Shit!

[@soniablanche5672]

He's supposed to be one of the strongest character in the trails universe after all

[@EdgyEmoLoliconBoy]

YEAH WTF

[@MrAulzzz]

@@soniablanche5672 well arianrhod still stronger than him

[@crosselsmith776]

That's peak bladelord.

[@crosselsmith776]

@@MrAulzzz 250 years Vs 20 years. Plus SPOILER she was a divine knight awakener + immortal with many other things. Meanwhile Loewe only had kernviter.

[@JRPGforlife]

I was stuck on this dude for an HOUR on just normal difficulty I don't think I could've beaten him if it wasn't for kloe's debuff craft and spaming Agate's wild rage/Dragon Dive wouldn't even wanna attempt fighting him on nightmare

[@thefivespokewheels]

Probably the hardest boss fight in the entire series

[@zennvirus7980]

I think I have to point out that some Shining Pom Level up (ideally with your party at level 90-91) would have given a better Ats, which translates into more damage with Dark Matter. Plus, hitting him when he attacks Estelle or Joshua is a good idea since, aside from the damage, you fill the CP bar. Taking time to cancel his arts when you are under the influence of Max Guard is a good chance to hurt him too. Itemwise, using Mighty Essence and Power Meat Stews take care of your buffing, CP regeneration, AND heals. The strategy can be improved, but you got the basics already. Good job!

[@upsetman1887]

cringe comment

[@StephaneGman]

When he strikes: "TIM?!"

[@gyanvarshnay8053]

things have blown out of proportion some

[@IndaWindow]

Surprisingly got past with oliver/Khloe. Had to get everyone grouped together all the time and spam earth wall 😂😂😂

[@EbeeDeeby]

Nightmare Loewe is a beast

[@FlyingEbi]

Loewe sounding like Darth Vader is so weird

[@jzblue345]

Your saying Weissman is not difficult? I used attack food for most of these bosses. A hidden great resource that isn't well known but consistently does 3000 damage in a line or range depending on the item.

[@veghesther3204]

Except those items still DO damage based on the ENEMIES defense stats so even with my Kevin/Agate lv 99 party I pretty much had those items do PATHETIC damage on Nightmare mode at all. Especially since I would need to own 99 Zeram powders first and that's only possible on the VITA version of the game but on the Vita version the ATTACK FOOD items for SC and the 3rd are even MORE useless their stats got cut in HALF making them even MORE useless for Nightmare mode.

[@gigaganon]

i'm currently at this fight with schera and olivier.... i can't do anything AT ALL, they have way too much turn for me to heal myself properly, even with zodiac casted and other buffs, they can kill my character in two turns... didn't even manage to kill the tiger, they always heal themselves + loewe.... this is the only fight that i have such a hard time to do... (i had the earthworm optional boss but i did find the solution afterward)... i don't know what to do.... i don't want to spent time to grind either

[@gigaganon]

+gigaganon i've got lucky after ten tries, he splitted way latter so i managed to beat him somehow

[@trailsintheskyscnightmare3391]

+gigaganon I'd highly recommend bringing Kevin - on higher difficulties he's almost mandatory for this fight if only for his S break to prevent him from completely destroying you immediately with his own S break. Kevin's S break should buy you enough time to cast clock down on him and clock up EX on your characters, which makes the fight a lot more manageable. I'd also recommend bringing only boots/armor that give + speed - it might look like the speed isn't a big deal psychologically when you're comparing +5 speed to something like +200 defense, but I assure you, that +5 speed is worth it. If you don't already have them, then you definitely want to get action and cast 2 on every character - the bonus those quartz give is just too big to not use (the higher level of action the better obviously - ideally you'd want action 5 (onyx gem) on everyone but action 3-4 is still worth using if you don't have enough time sepith). If you insist on not bringing Kevin however, then I'd suggest you start off by placing your characters on opposite corners (2 on each) - this way no matter who he targets with his S break he only hits 2 of your characters instead of 3-4. This does make you a bit more vulnerable to other AoE attacks later on - but his S break is way more dangerous than those attacks if you don't have earth guard up (on hard/nightmare it will easily OHKO some characters - on nightmare I'm not sure it's even possible to survive being hit by it even with Zane). Don't be afraid to use any items - this is the last difficult fight in the game so it doesn't really matter what items you spend as long as you have plenty of EP charges to get through through the last fight (if you don't spend items here you won't spend them anywhere pretty much). That means you can spam your zeram powder/capsules freely, bring emergency puppets on characters if you don't have particularly good items to bring on them etc.. I'm not sure how much else there is to say- this isn't a fight where there's really any gimmick in particular to exploit, you just need to pay close attention to the turn orders and such and win with just solid play in general.

[@EdgyEmoLoliconBoy]

The hardest for me.... 2nd is SteelMaiden from AO

[@rladudgns15]

Yeah. At least Steel Maiden doesn't spawn body splits.

[@meinman7591]

this music is incredible

[@veghesther3204]

I'll use a lv 99 party Agate/Kevin to join Estelle/Joshua yet at lv 99 On NG+ runs I still had every one of his attacks be 1 hit kills and on the EVO Vita version I owned 99 Zeram Powders before this fight on Nightmare mode at lv 99 and pretty much used ALL of them for this fight.

[@judesagpang6357]

Hey guys, I was always wondering what is the name of the sword style of Loewe? is it Arseid, Vander, Eight Leaves One Blade, or Court Swordsmanship? And what would you think be his next job if he is still alive after this scene?

[@tjmax31fd]

I think his sword style is similar to Agate's and Joshua's rather than any specific school. It's a mixture of what he learned throughout his life and from other enforcers during his time with the society.

[@Kernviter]

He was mentored by Arianrhod, so it's probably got elements of the Stahlritter's style in it. But he's canonically mostly self taught.

[@rashidfarhan6223]

got my ass handed out a while ago

[@pat777b]

Hmm, would orbal down have helped with the adf debuff?

[@canasnewell3089]

Patrick Tam in the early parts, using it is a waste of your time. Later in the fights, killing loewe faster once he’s alone you probably should use it.

[@EdgyEmoLoliconBoy]

Do it without kevin lol

[@NotMeta]

Kevin and Kloe are the most overpowered duo.

[@iniorang9790]

louwie not buffing his split body... thats luck !

[@yuuotosaka2834]

This is the most hard fight in sc my god even if i debuff him with str def and spd down he fricking spam his clone and for some reason they cant be debuff

[@Tragedyval]

i use kloe and mueller for this fight with kloe str def down then just burst loewe down from 50% to 0 mueller can do 7k dmg with auto atk + s craft with over 1300 str. i give everyone in my party confuse immunity and proxy puppet

[@kevinhanandi]

err what is the name of soundtrack?

[@theleadingman08]

+Kevin Hanandi Silver Will.

[@kevinhanandi]

+theleadingman08 thx, tho i already find it earlier

[@ReviewUA-jy7xi]

Near the end you should've been Attacking with Josh instead of using his Arts. It would have done more damage

[@ReviewUA-jy7xi]

Also you should have double gladiatored Josh (Belt and headband), makes it easier to spam his Phantom.

[@trailsintheskyscnightmare3391]

+EX Heihachi Gladiator's headband is definitely not worth it - it won't increase the CP gain from the gladiator's belt which is the majority of my CP gain, and more importantly it does not give me any speed. I want as much speed as I can get on all of my characters. As far as regular attacks go, I'm not sure Joshua would've even done damage with his regular attack unless I spent time buffing his attack - I probably could've done it faster with Kloe debuffing Loewe's defense and using Morale to buff Joshua's attack, but frankly the fight was a pushover at that stage of the fight anyway so there wasn't really any point putting effort into thinking about it (and earlier in the fight regular attacks are definitely worse as they won't hit all enemies). Without buffing his attack he definitely would not have been doing more damage - He only hit Loewe's clones for ~700 damage, and Loewe has significantly more defense than his clones. I'm pretty sure with cast 2 on casting spells is also faster than actually attacking (ie. you'll get to your turn again faster). I don't think dual strike would be worth it either considering how much damage the S break does compared to any of my other attacks and I'd rather save my CP for S breaks.

[@GiordanDiodato]

I've been told that Zane is a better choice because of Defense.

[@Dadiris]

+Giordan Diodato and attack, his s-break deals a shit ton of damage when buffed

[@lancelindlelee7256]

+Giordan Diodato Dont forget Distend. + 60% Str and Def. Though I ended up using the same team as above but with different set. I did use Zane and Oliver the first time though but I reset 'cause I didn't know that it would be the final set up

[@mahomisawa4172]

So I take it that the fight (what about the others?) are impossible without Kevin? Sounds like a bit of a bummer, it's not like I dislike Kevin or anything, but stuffing him with Zerams sounds really eh.

[@trailsintheskyscnightmare3391]

+Maho Misawa Definitely not impossible, there are a number of possible strategies I just consider this one to be the one that requires the least preparation (without relying heavily on luck). This fight is actually a long long way from being impossible, and you'll note that my characters are pretty low levels too... but ultimately if you aren't bringing Kevin you're kind of just making it harder on yourself because he's definitely by far the best character in the game thanks to his S break (he also has arguably the best orbment to top it off too). If you were *really* min-maxing I think it would be possible to beat 5 Loewe's at once (with each of them potentially summoning 2 clones too) by using something like zane+agate with 2 emergency puppets on everyone, stacking as much attack as possible on everyone and grinding them to level 99 and just S breaking them all to death (I'm pretty sure with 3 S breaks per character it's possible to do enough damage to just outright kill him). You can theoretically get as many emergency puppets as you want from fishing somewhere iirc. - as said, a strategy like that requires way more preparation though.

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

@@trailsintheskyscnightmare3391 the good thing about kevin is, he can counter the rng in the game. It doesnt matter what they will throw at you, you are safe. I sometimes was attacked by 1craft and the scraft directly afterwards. Having two shields is the only way of surviving this.... Sadly I had no kevin since I was playing the whole game with sherazard and kloe mainly.

[@manuellopes1269]

Is possible past this boss in normal without lose any life?i have low team hp thanks

[@kevinhanandi]

how low is it?

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

RNG Factor can be a bitch. In my fights he used his crafts and s-crafts far more often. Dont know if knowing, that some of your members are shielded will make the AI decide to not use it (even when he was able to hit unshielded people) And that he is always spamming useless earthwall. He did use it only one time in my fight. But i really see the worth of your speed. Most of the times when he used his art (the swords in a circle) I didnt even have the chance to move out of the circle. I even thought its an on hit art.

[@dan290786]

How do i get Gaia shield please? What order of orbs?

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

notebook there is every possible spell written down.

[@Group-hr9oq]

Legit impossible without Kevin

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

no but you may have to give it more tries since the rng factor sometimes doesnt give you a chance of surviving. (depending on how often and in which row he uses his crafts or split bodys)

[@JRPGforlife]

It's possible, just hard as shit. I beat him with Kloe's debuff craft and spamming Agate's wild rage and his dragon dive s-craft.

[@rickleung90]

Can you beat it without item?

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

I'd say no. Even if you would survive, you would run out of mana at some time and die when you are unable of using shields.... why should you, thats why you have those items....

[@yoonglol]

i beat this game without using items..... on normal tho

[@Romangelo]

LOL I didn't know there's English dub for these games. So cringy.

[@johnnymactaiger6354]

Худшая JRPG из 00х. Я так разочарован этим ходом -использованием умений одного персонажа для выживания.

[@johannavirs737]

I killed Loewe in a more "idiotic" way: I killed mobs until I managed to make 99 auroras (the food). I joined the battle with Estelle, Joshua, Julia and Mueller. The first three were with earth guard and the last one was using the "auroras". Hahahahaha