Train Drivers Eye View Cab Ride. East Croydon - Acton Lane Reception PART 2

[@alansutton2980]

Really great video and very interesting route with many junctions, parallel lines, signalling, etc. What I especially like is the spoken commentary, infinitely better than text running across the screen. The map showing location and signalling is unique and a great addition. All in all the best cab ride video on KZbin.

[@kalensus]

Goodness, I've watched loads of in-cab videos here but this is the first I've seen with a map on the side. Absolutely elevates the experience to a whole new level!

[@titup2]

Helpful commentary too.

[@SJTech1001]

Superb video, I love the map showing location and track layouts too. Thank you 🙏

[@paulstuart6372]

Excellent video cab ride

[@neerajtamrakar6785]

Very good demonstration about voice and right-hand side PSR speed and very clear view and all signaling information, thanks team who made beautiful video

[@NoahTheGamer1212]

Woohoo I leave behind Westfield mall in white city nice to see it from the railroad good job

[@Deadmastermx1]

This is quite an old video as I live in Balham and there are different signals on the approach, amazing video none the less, teaches a lot to many ❤

[@MrAuriga67]

Excellent video, with added route knowledge for those interested. I do have an interest in lines like this around London.

[@ramonwilliams5721]

Really enjoyed your video, as a ex steam fireman/driver, seeing places I’ve heard of and never seen.Kind regards.🚂🚂🚂

[@melvynbuckton6881]

Excellent video and interesting views.

[@jamesallen7750]

Sometimes the algorithm knows just what I’m looking for! Fascinating video, especially since I’ve worked on track at various times on pretty much the whole of this route. One thing, I’ve only ever heard Pouparts pronounced as poo-parts.

[@SharpSonic1]

Man I was sad when the video ended, GREAT VID!

[@Crepello100]

Fascinating video. Also the map on the right which is quite like the old Mosaic Mapping Simulator. I'm still using that, though on an equally old PC as it's MS-DOS based.

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

Used to drive the 220 from willesden junction and see the southern service that goes up to watford and always wondered the branch it takes to get onto the LNWR line. Never been on that service before so i guess ill see it first hand now🥳

[@Andrewjg_89]

With the West London Line that freight trains use. Where the line passes underneath the A40 Westway is where the overhead wires end. Maybe Network Rail should extend the overhead wires to Shepards Bush to allow Class 377 Southern trains to change voltage from DC 750v 3rd Rail to AC 25kv OHL.

[@OliverTurnerMSc]

Overground trains seem to be able to pass through this without stopping but Southern trains cannot, do you know why this is?

[@DadRail]

Class 378s have the ability to change on the move, the class 377s don’t. This is a design limitation with the units.

[@markcf83]

The changeover point was at Mitre Bridge which is a mile further up the line and convenient for Willesden depot.

[@professorjamesmoriarty5191]

Can't, not enough clearance on the bridges.

[@peterbrackenbury]

Thanks for another excellent video.

[@phwbooth]

Most interesting. Thanks, D.R.

[@KeithJones-yq6of]

Slight mistake at 3:22, Richard. As you know, it's position one indicator and not four as mentioned in commentary.

[@NoahTheGamer1212]

Wrong its four you start from bottom as 1 count round he is right its position 4

[@KeithJones-yq6of]

@@NoahTheGamer1212 No is not. It is no 1. Position 4 is top right. This is top left

[@strodey123]

Great video. Do they do an analysis on why certain signals are repeatedly passed on danger? Like too much signage around it or blending in with the background or something.

[@Daytona2]

Yes, if you sign up for the Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) bulletins, you'll get an idea of what goes on. Although this is the extreme end - after a potentially serious incident.

[@Daytona2]

Interesting to see the other end of the Mendip operation, at least, istr that many of them end up there ? tho perhaps not as it's on the WCML and the Hanson's Acton depot is on the GWML +27:04 what's the strange protuberance at the north? end of Clapham Junctions Pl 16 ?

[@DadRail]

I believe the train heads onto Wembley, before forming into a jumbo and heading back to the mendip quarries. 27:04 is the old southern style concrete signal bracket. A fair few examples on google and in use until recently.

[@Daytona2]

@@DadRail Thanks Richard - I've never noticed the concrete signal brackets before, but then I'm more of a LMS man. I do like Southern style ...in just about everything they did.

[@mikekirwan5326]

That connection to North Pole has been used recently, bringing 800’s out to run in and out of Euston in preparation for the winter diverts. Also Three Bridges ROC controls all the way to Mitre Bridge now!

[@DadRail]

That’s right. As per the voice over, since filming much of the line has been re signalled. Good to know about the North Pole Connection. The diversionary route will be offer some rare track for passenger services, the poplars from Acton Mainline and the southwest lines through Acton Wells.

[@ionbotnari794]

On Friday, myself and other 7 trainees, passed the assessment for the 8 days train dispatcher course at Streatham Hill depot for GTR. During the duration of the training course, I was changing from Northern line underground station for Southern Train service at Balham station for one stop to Streatham Hill station. Equally, I follow your videos for some time and was pleasently surprised to see these stations being mentioned in today's video, considering i was commuting not too long ago there. It is interesting to watch this kind of videos especially after becoming more familiar with signals, indicators and other railway terminology. Thank you for producing and sharing this type of content. Your videos are one of the reasons I got interested in trains. Keep up the good work 👍

[@DadRail]

Thanks so much for your kind works, and best of luck with your railway career. I started off as a platform dispatcher 17 years ago. The time goes so quick.

[@davidbird4713]

Excellent video, very good commentary, I like the route map and the sound of the engine.

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

31:28 cant believe there used to be a station there. I always find things like this interesting, wonder why they closed it? Im a bus driver and i used to drive the 14 and the 22 which both go over these tracks (kings road and fulham road respectively), but i never see anything down there despite it being the line for 377s & 378s🤔

[@f.g.9466]

The demand for passengers on the line declined with the rise of tubes and electric railways which offered faster and more frequent connections. The station and other parts of the line were bombed during the Blitz and passenger services on the line ended. Passenger services resumed in the 90s but this station was never reopened.

[@LeeSmith-cf1vo]

Does the blue & white border actually help to prevent SPADs? 12:55 - "Wait for a change in aspect" - isn't that kinda always the case if the signal is red?!? Perhaps you meant wait for a specific aspect? i.e. green, because of the upcoming hill? Or is it more a case of "This signal will remain red for a while, don't bug me about it for at least x mins"? In these cab view videos it is often difficult to distinguish the colour of the signal, particularly red from yellow. I imagine it is much easier to determine in person?

[@DadRail]

Hi Lee The blue and white border servers as a reminder to drives that it is a high risk signal. As part of our route knowledge and ongoing competency we learn the locations of multi spad signals, how spads have happened and how to prevent them. Being aware of the risk is a brilliant way to mitigate it and avoid making mistakes. 12:55 when stopped at a red signal the driver has a button on the radio marked SG. This sends a reminder to the signaller alerting them that there is a train stopped at the signal. Signallers often control large areas and may be attending to other activity in there control area, or they may have simply forgotten. Signallers can then respond by sending a “wait” message, or they may clear the signal or contact the driver with further instructions.

[@LeeSmith-cf1vo]

@@DadRail ahh, I did t realise the driver had already sent the "waiting at red", I thought it was normal to wait 2 mins before doing that, although I am aware that this can be different in different regions/tocs etc. Re: the blue and white border, I guess my point is that if the driver has seen the signal and knows it applies to them then they should be passing it at danger, with or without the border! Maybe the border genuinely makes it easier to spot? Or maybe it because a common cause of spads at that locations is a misread? (the border then being a reminder to triple check and approach slowly if not 100% sure)

[@DadRail]

I think it makes it a bit easier to spot and is a reminder to the driver to double check and make sure they are reading the correct signal. It’s also a good reminder every time you see the border you are refreshing your memory of the risk.

[@AndreiTupolev]

With these LED signals, in cab ride videos it is sometimes not very easy to distinguish red from yellow. With multiple aspect signals with separate lenses it's much easier to tell a red from a yellow. It's probably just on video though, and is clearer in person?

[@AndreiTupolev]

​@@DadRailkind of a modern equivalent of Rule 55, then?

[@KeithJones-yq6of]

Another quality video, Richard. Many thanks

[@anthonywarrener1881]

Thank you for this excellent video.

[@opensesame525]

When you were stopped at signal VC634 near where the lines from Streatham and Crystal Palace joined, why stop so far back from the signal itself?

[@AndreiTupolev]

I've often wondered why Chelsea & Fulham Station has never been reopened, as it's right in the shadow of Stamford Bridge and would surely be useful

[@f.g.9466]

Apparently the main reason for rejection of the reopening is that it would be too overcrowded.

[@tcc300892]

These videos are fantastic. Thanks very much! I'd love a Brighton Main Line one, if at all possible.

[@chrispayne523]

Have they moved East Croydon? It's South West Croydon.

[@johnburch9660]

Brilliant video Richard, more of the same please.

[@jessicamorgan3073]

Thanks for an interesting video

[@mickanon5607]

Hello! NOVICE here! - Can anyone explain the 12:30 segment? Looks like the loco was creeping along just fine, and then got stopped for no reason, destroying all movement, and adding to track and mechanical wear. If this is the norm I'd be highly annoyed as a driver.

[@DadRail]

The train was stopped on a red signal. Possibly because of another train passing across the junction.

[@wilsonflood4393]

Brilliant video

[@raf6266]

Where do you get the maps on the right? Did you create that?

[@DadRail]

Created in Photoshop. Takes a fair few hours but I think it’s really worth it.

[@Trainandbusspotter]

Hi dad rail how r u nice video ❤

[@ACELog]

What were you hauling?

[@DadRail]

It was empty hopper wagons, having unloaded at Ardingly

[@ACELog]

@@DadRail Ah, the aggregates depot. Interesting to see you go through Clapham on platform 16. I often go through 14 or 15 as passenger to/from Crystal Palace, and wonder what and when goes through 16 or 17.

[@Verylonelyloconow]

What number 66 was it

[@DadRail]

It’s a Freightliner one, but unfortunately that’s all I can tell you.