Training the Genetically Gifted vs. The Average Person - Starting Strength Radio Previews

[@BenBarden98]

We all want a video of Rip's vertical jump

[@ferrret1]

Rip has a half inch vertical hop

[@metinotje]

Naim Suleymanoglu as the best example. 60kg and clean and jerked 190kg while he wasnt even 100 percent. He almost died from a disease a couple of weeks before and stayed in hospital for weeks. In training he even lifted 210kg. He grew up in Bulgaria.

[@jamesembrey3100]

I would love to hear Rip discuss how genetics affect recovery speed, and how that variable should be taken into consideration while training A super healer obviously shouldn’t train the same as someone that recovers much slower, to progress optimally that is

[@antepikunic5487]

Good point, I recover realy slow.

[@ottowelt4378]

Swede burns summarised it as that there are adapters and there are recoverers. If you have both you are a top 0.01percent freak.

[@Jafmanz]

you can find out about you by experimenting over the course of a month...

[@jamesembrey3100]

@@Jafmanz that’s basically what I’ve been doing for years, trying out different volumes and frequencies to see what combination of factors provides the most consistent progress, so far It seems like 1 hard pr set of squat or deadlift, then however much upper body stuff I feel like, 5-6 days a week, has been paying dividends, I’m keeping a low proximity to failure, while spreading the volume throughout the week, so I’m NEVER totally beat the fuck up, I’m ALWAYS mostly good to push hard, hence the 5-6 days a week, and I just keep making Prs, just got a +10lb dead Pr @475 the other day, it’s been working, and it’s a lot less daunting and leg wrecking than the heavy ass 5x5 that takes 4 days to recover from

[@Colestamper1]

It's slotted to be perhaps the best episode yet.

[@CinBro]

I have a 16 inch vertical jump, I remember trying to get into skateboarding, but I couldn't even jump high enough for the board to flip in certain ways before I came back down. I was always the slowest sprinter, weakest kicker, thrower, etc. Unfortunately I spent years thinking I could become explosive with certain types of training. Here I am still stuck with a 16 inch vertical, in fact nowadays it sometimes measures less than 16.

[@joshuamoran1773]

How well do you stretch and exercise your leg muscles? I believe that calf raises could help since your Achilles is getting stronger, or it may be how you do those exercises. I used to be a really slow runner but fixing how large my strides helped. Sadly genes still play a huge part.

[@AcceleratingUniverse]

look up alec enkiri's vertical jump stuff if you still care. you can probably get at least 20 or 22

[@00Noontide]

Glad to see the monkey is cozy ☺️

[@MrCheetah440]

This is also the same reason why you see 150lb golfers drive it 320 and why taking some average guys deadlift to 375 doesn't add 5yds. The exact same reason. Motor units, sarcamere and nerves. Same deal. You either have that explosive natural ability or you don't. It's why the longest driver on the planet was once 175lbs (Jamie Sadlowski) who would drive it past guys who could throw him 100yards and weighed 150lbs more than him. It isn't simply force production, just like you can't take a 22" VJ kid and make him a 36" VJ kid by increasing his squat and deadlift.

[@limitisillusion7]

Squats and deadlifts aren't specifically power lifts though. If you spent that time training cleans, box jumps, and sprinting. You could get well see a great improvement in vertical jump. Same goes for golfing. If you want to get good at something, don't practice something else.

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

Coordination also plays a huge, huge roll as well. The more coordinated you are, the better your technique. More efficient technique equals more work done with less effort. I've seen a 130-lb world champion boxer throw a 1-2-3 combination so fluidly that it folded a 100-lb heavy bag. The reason is because his punching technique is so crisp that he's able to get his entire kinetic chain behind his punches, whereas bigger guys have so poor coordination and technique that they're only punching with their arms and shoulders.

[@loganross1861]

I love the way he explains things.

[@marcoleone8189]

Rip is great love the SS method! Most people don't understand what Rip is trying to accomplish and why the SS methods are superior. Interestingly Louie Simmons makes the same point about the Bulgarian System using model athletes and why that doesn't work for everyone. He also agrees with Rip about the 700 DL will help your clean just by being stronger. I've always thought that Louie and Rip are similar in personality and would have made for an interesting discussion even though they had different goals.

[@joebot9309]

Vertical jump means nothing when your anywhere over your bmi. Heavy weight Powerlifters with the biggest lifts of all time can’t jump 5 inches

[@metinotje]

Powerlifters yes they can't. Olympic heavyweight lifters over bmi can.

[@johnnysquiretube]

Assuming you mean overweight BMI, take a look at NFL linebackers. Those are they guys China OC would recruit to weightlifting.

[@xchindit]

@Joe Bot Shane Hamman could dunk a basketball and do a standing backflip

[@mastersironmantarmstrong7148]

Wrong!!!!

[@danielbuege1]

I saw a guy who weighed upwards of 300 lbs and was maybe 5'10" jump damn near 36" right in front of me last weekend.

[@pjfdayton]

Can the motor units (nerves) be trained ?

[@SzymonZat]

You can improve but not much. 20% maybe.

[@spelunkergotowned]

Moment of silence for unused motor units.

[@uhsemehicieronlas3]

yes, they are the newbie gains

[@jimcortez3293]

With the right stack, everyone is "genetically gifted."

[@MEANDUONATREE09]

Nope

[@Ethan-xc1fe]

Naw, lots of people on gear you wouldn't even think go to the gym lol

[@jimcortez3293]

@@Ethan-xc1fe You're not entirely wrong. I've known some pretty big meat heads, who barely touch weights at all. That is the secret to bodybuilding. If a person takes enough of certain things, they will get huge, with minimal effort. Bodybuilding is the modern circus side show.

[@matrixpowerdeluxe8910]

Nobody tells the truth abput sodium for athletes. How much sodium to intake daily? Somebody tells like Simeon Panda, that he don't use any salt. Stan Efferding say that he use 10-12 grams of sodium daily. Artical on site T-Nation "Sodium Secret Weapon" write for every liter of water = 2 grams of sodium. So it's all confusing. Can you make a video about that? Greetings from Balkan

[@BrandoTheMando87]

Salt your food and stop worrying about it.

[@leeonr]

chinese olympic weightlifters eat cup noodle all the time and they seem to do pretty well

[@MrPtrlix]

Just eat your food with whatever amount of salt you want in them. Drink mineral waters to keep things in balance.

[@SzymonZat]

Yes, sodium intake is the factor that holds you back from getting to ripped 250lbs.

[@WilliamsWrestlin]

Don't listen to Simeon panda

[@blakemcmahan3960]

I have a 36 inch vertical! Pretty cool!

[@albienb6533]

32 inch vertical here.

[@eliaabumanneh5194]

Should I feel bad for having a 22inch jump ?

[@cptfab]

Nah 22 is solid

[@tomg4685]

Genetically privileged*

[@roman9509]

According to all Rips comments, if you're not genetically gifted you're NOT DOING THE PROGRAM.

[@ktoth29]

This is the other side of the special snowflake coin... no one is special, unless they have a 40 inch vertical; and then the rules don't apply.

[@jalander8817]

Equality cultists’ head explode!!!!

[@lm5085]

Awesome concept and analogy if you can't see the tie in with the deadlift than you are brain dead.

[@julesbashaur1662]

It is a tricky analogy. Weightlifters actually train deadlifts, but special versions of them, namely snatch deadlift, clean deadlift, romanian deadlift (actually named after an Romanian lifter). Those exercises are used to not throw of the starting positions of the two main lifts (rather low hips) versus a conventional deadlift (rather high hips). Especially for amateur lifters, who cannot pull of 10 training sessions a week, it is cumbersome to train different pulling motions off of the floor.

[@JagannadhGosala]

@@julesbashaur1662 Exercise vs Training, very good lecture by Rip. You should listen to that.

[@bluedogguy]

I'm just here for the monkey

[@NothingHumanisAlientoMe]

Just do some push ups man