Training Until Failure Almost Ruined My Life

[@jack-n3p5j]

cortisol is actually your body trying to combat the stress because cortisol is your body is anti-inflammatory. But yes, high cortisol is a sign of high stress.

[@Mehmehsw5ke]

Training to failure requires days of rest in between. And chronic cardio is hurting your progress too

[@fender1000100]

100% correct..these gym addicts don't understand the body takes days to fully recover grow from a true HIT workout. But because they are addicted to training for the sake of training. They cant wait or stay out of the gym for even two days. They cant recover. I got my arms up to 17 inches and my chest up to 48 in 7 months doing HIT. And that was one workout a week for 30 minutes. And I cycled 3 times a week for light cardio. Or about 28 workouts in total. Its POWERFUL when you respect RECOVERY........

[@Mehmehsw5ke]

@@fender1000100 and then they blame the failure training for the setbacks

[@tom6567]

You can train hard and train long...but just not both. - mentzer

[@Rob-qn6od]

@@tom6567 wrong. You can train hard and long.

[@CamboSlice-]

@@Rob-qn6od that’s not true Go and squat, your heaviest possible weight all day long It’s not possible bud

[@Rob-qn6od]

@@CamboSlice- It sure is as I've done it so nah...

[@lfapowerhouse]

Keep in mind this is the fitness community. Literally everyone wants to be right about everything because they did a search on the net and now they’re experts. This is just my experience.

[@CamboSlice-]

@@Rob-qn6od bud you didn’t actually give yourself a heavy weight… you THINK you are training high intensity but what you are really doing is training small to medium intensity for long duration. Why do you think sprinters don’t have marathons? Because they can’t produce maximal effort for long duration… only very short duration. Why do you think power lifters literally have an entire industry based around a 1 rep maximum, and then for weeks after they perform a PR they have to give substantial time for the CNS to recover fully and properly before continuing to do high intensity training styles. Try not to get hung up on any of my example points to make your case sound better. Just get the point, which is this… you simple cannot produce maximal amounts of force from the human body for long duration periods It’s a physical impossibility. And if one so believed that they in fact could produce maximal amounts of force for long durated periods they would find themselves stuck dead under whatever weight they tried moving past the point of failure. Anyway I hope this helps you understand some of the science and impossibilities that are involved with HIT. Also I’m not a naysayer, I am not a negative person. I believe anything is possible and if you want it to go and do it. This is just an undeniable exception to the positive philosophy I have of life.

[@kal-el3644]

Damn bro...I really needed to hear that. Thanks LFA!

[@ssvd91]

Goggins would be like youre just not going hard enough

[@randyfernandez5361]

Goggins is a nobody

[@gsharpshooter80]

Damn this is actually making me think about everything you are talking about because I work my ass off at the gym as much as I can and usually there for almost like 2 hrs or more. I sleep like 7 hrs but always feel like I got no sleep at all. It’s honestly terrible. My other theory is my mattress which definitely needs to be replaced

[@deltronics1111]

Strength training taxes your central nervous system i dont think we were designed to contract our muscles maximally without functional movement for prolonged periods just for hypertrophy so you need to give it time to recover.

[@Jp-do9ny]

You should never been training longer than an hour

[@robbertag808]

2 hours or more. What kind of b*llocks is that. 90 minutes max.

[@abender06]

You can do a full body workout in under 30 minutes. Take one set of each exercise to failure using slow controlled reps. You only need to do that once per week and maybe a couple lighter maintenance workouts as well.

[@Rob-qn6od]

Training to failure does not mean to exhaustion. It means training until the point when you can no longer do another rep without stopping to take a rest before hand. No need to push to the max.

[@DobermanVI]

Nice vid, man. I have switched to no failure training about a year ago after 15 years of lifting. I currently experience almost zero joint issues and surprisingly make more gains. I focus on the quality of the each rep. When I notice that the force of the rep decreases, I stop. It’s usually at least 2-3 reps shy of technical failure and 5 reps shy of balls to the wall failure. I even integrate week, where I don’t train, about once every 8 weeks. It really transformed my training .

[@Grand_Rizzard104]

Yeah I noticed that I would have minor anxiety attacks laying in bed hours after working out.

[@TheDukeofMoy]

Sounds very much like over training. You need to reduce the volume and frequency of your workouts. The more intense you work out the less you need to train to allow your body and nervous system to recover.

[@lfapowerhouse]

I think that was the point of this video man.

[@eliasthegreat8]

Low gaba levels get gaba

[@thelonesquid7886]

Yep, I was constantly fighting chronic injuries after40 until I started leaving my ego at the door.. also swapped regular cardio for easy walks around tht neighborhood

[@Biglenny-v9r]

Tons of programming books you should’ve read after training this long. Even for an intermediate lifter, lifting 90-100% of your max more than 3 weeks in a row will plateau you and your cns will have issues unless you change weekly movement variations like westside barbell. Advanced lifters after doing a 1RM typically aren’t able to replicate the same lift the next week due to how stressful it is on them considering how efficient their nervous system is. It’s like blowing a turbo for them and why they plan their training for meet day, not just go in and 1RM every week. Highly suggest bromleys book base strength. Easy to understand and tons of example programs on how to structure your training to keep it moving and not hit plateaus or fry your cns

[@lfapowerhouse]

I probably knew everything those books mention. I just wanted to train hard for 5 days per week. And I paid the price. This video was to create awareness. According to the comments, it did.

[@stevanivkovic684]

Had similar problem. Trained balls to the walls until failure (positive failure since i do not use a training partner). Two things i switched recently and i started sleeping like a baby. Moved the training session to 14:00PM, before that i was training at 21:00PM. And most important thing im always leaving 2-4 reps until that true failure. Started feeling better, sleep is perfect. And what do you know i started looking better, body composition got better, harder, more vascular, probably something to do with the cortisol which LFA is talking about half time into this video.

[@i_would_but_i_wont]

I'm a personal trainer and an endurance athlete. I had to learn how to manage effort in order to improve my performance and health. Consistency over the week is more important than crushing any one workout. If you train to exhaustion it should only be once every two weeks at most. This is essential for endurance training, but also (mostly) true for strength training. High level power lifters and Olympic lifters structure their week so the majority of the time they are lifting to roughly 70% of their max on a given exercise.

[@brianbachmeier34]

Thanks

[@Sumppa]

i've trained HIT style for ~2 years now. First time i started i pushed too far and went 4-5 workouts a week for almost 7 weeks before i started having tendon problems and sleep problems. Quickly understood how it's supposed to be done and now i train 4 times a week (only 3 times during night shift) and train hard for 3 weeks, then take 1 week very light or completely off. i will never go more than 3 weeks hard ever again, that was horrible to be tired 24/7 and even after full night of sleep i woke up tired.

[@mariovaldez3147]

I can definitely relate: this was me in my 20’s. The gym was all I thought of and would push myself the same with weights and cardio, so I also had the same sleeping issues. It was miserable. I’m in my early 30’s and was thinking about going back to pushing myself like in my 20’s but I’m glad I watched this video. It totally connected the dots .. appreciate the insight brother 🙏🏼

[@Nerantzaki]

Hey LFA. Ive had a similar experience. Im same age as you, 36, hit the gym 5 days a week. I have a physical job. I gave up the coffee and replaced it with raw cacao. I mix it with hot water and throw in some cacao butter in there too. Its high in magnesium which helps relax your muscles and nervous system. Im also carnivore. Caffeine reduction and the eliminating nature of carnivore diet helped my sleeping problems and a few others. Feel and look way better now than in my 20's. Youre looking good man. All the best. From Sydney Australia.

[@BigG6179]

Yep. When I was benching 270 and DL 375 I was eating so much that my cortisol was higher. I was working out 6 days a week to get the most out of my lifting in my college days. I get to the real world where I cannot lift 6 days anymore and I cut it back 3 to 4 days a week. Yes my strength went down a lot, but my body has felt fantastic only eating 3 meals a day and sleeping 5.5 to 7 hours of sleep a night.

[@MrShysterme]

You're a good example of a natty lifter that is disciplined and has average to above average genetics for it. Any older folks that have gone to a decent sized gym for years should be able to spot folks that have done cycles in the past.

[@NicholasVillalobos-zl5dw]

Free steroid era bodybuilders trained 3 days a week full body. They did not train their one rep max very often. They were all huge and very healthy for many years over training is definitely a thing

[@salty3069]

Lol I have the same exact problem man. I'm just pushing too hard in the gym I can't sleep. Insomnia high stress. To be honest I have this energy I cannot flush out of my system so I lift weights. Last couple of months I've been taking a break. There's days I cannot clinch my fist hard enough like I'm drained. Now I feel better put on more weight and muscle hopefully i can keep going on like this since I have injuries too it's been really hard.

[@WiecznieNieNasycony]

I always train isolations until the last possible repetition for isolations it is very good for compound lifts it is bad it will burn you fast

[@TheVanneo]

We can only train as hard as we can recover from

[@Rakyr]

One other thing was doing an aggressive cut of 1500 calorie a day for 1.5 months...that caused shitty insomnia during the last two weeks but that may have lead to overtraining faster as I was still lifting heavy super close to failure!

[@lfapowerhouse]

I think that was the point of this video man.

[@scottgotti123]

When your lifts start get heavy wieght its to much stress to training max out all the time, you'll know when your body can push extra hard and when to back down for a few weeks, after 10 years of training experience you'll know, focus on the body

[@updemplates4870]

You think magnesium might help?

[@Voidward]

I train hard and to failure but only 3 days a week. Healthy lifestyle. I don't do cardio to failure, just around 10k steps a day. My sleep improved significantly after i started this workout regime compared to what it used to be, i sleep great. I'll test 1 rep maxs maybe once every week or 2, only when i feel strong, every session would be overkill.

[@buckaroobaizuo25]

Overtraining has slowly ruined my sleep patterns too .. ppl talk about the pitfalls of OT all the time & we always think we know better .. best shape of my life at 50 & I only sleep in 2-3hr blocks, if I’m lucky

[@Makindealz]

Been doing 1 or 2 sets to failure with rest pause or drop sets for over 40 years and no sleep issues. Also natty and 61. Always wanted to try test but chicken out over hair loss and health risks.

[@NEgative_89]

Very similar to my experience.

[@CamboSlice-]

We need Mike Mentzer in the comment section

[@Dreweybaby]

I’m quit the opposite.. I train so intensely that on my days off work I fall asleep easily for around 10/12 hours 🤣💀🤣

[@lfapowerhouse]

I could only wish

[@CamboSlice-]

@@lfapowerhouse well the problem was is you weren’t giving yourself off days you could do that nowadays you could go back to training to failure you just can’t go to the gym every day and keep working out you have to take 3- 4 or five days in between each session if you’re gonna train super hard like that

[@reecejobling206]

I'll assume by the title that it made your life the best it could possibly be

[@marius1662]

Perhaps you should be looking into the carnivore diet? I had occasional insomnia, however going carnivore a year back it completely got eradicated, along with a long list of other problems such as snoring, mood fluctuations, skin breakouts, low energy and autoimmune problems. My life has completely changed due to this. Even putting on muscle is so much easier and quicker on the carnivore diet, and keeping yourself lean throughout the year is even easier.

[@barrybarnett731]

going carnovoire won't make a blind bit of difference to how you train and recover there is absolutely no need to train to beyond failure only to when form breaks down stop trying to push your boring bland repetitive diet 🙄

[@jack-n3p5j]

I just found this myself actually.

[@johnmorgan7989]

Maybe you'd have been better training just as hard as you were but just 3 days a week. Nothing wrong with failure training it's just you were over doing it. I don't see how it's possible for a natural to really smash big compound moves to failure 5 times week and make any progress at all. Even durian Yates trained less than that and he was roided up to the eyeballs

[@gerhardschelbi9939]

💯% korrekt Bro.

[@Grundy666]

Don’t say “roided up to the eyeballs”

[@AlexVinchenzo]

Have you ever been doing combat sports in addition to weight training?

[@RIGID01]

Working out five days per week is a recipe for rhabdo, recovery days are essential.

[@whereeaglesdare9584]

Great video. Less is more

[@nickashton3049]

Do yourself a favour and get the "Brawn" series of books by Stuart McRobert.

[@deepzan1]

Just periodize

[@ByronTexas]

Title blames training to failure as the culprit. Was it training to failure or was it doing it too often?

[@lfapowerhouse]

I'll explain that in the video.

[@xMohJeex]

My man you were grossly over training. The only shock to me in what you've said is that it took you 12 years to realise it. You should cut your volume and frequency by at least 50%... And your results will be better for it.

[@Rob-qn6od]

Nope. Itsvthe intensity. High intensity isn't sustainable, moderate intensity is best.

[@areyouusingthatsquatrack8256]

@@Rob-qn6od Not really. I never go to a 1rm and train at 65-75% and still get crap sleep. Too much volume training at moderate can still mess you up in my experience.

[@gunfugames7430]

Burned nervous system. Take 3 years or more to recover. Kinda physical PTSD.

[@keithbarbaro7590]

LOL!!!

[@areyouusingthatsquatrack8256]

You were still taking the 4rm to failure as your insomnia improved?

[@jermellemacleod7750]

Mike Mentzer would have said: More rest, more meth.

[@grahamcollins2350]

You got more twink boipucci

[@robbertag808]

Great I train 6 days a week and look better than you.

[@danmetallica2973]

I get fit during the winter months and reduce the amount of work i do during the summer so i can enjoy those warm months and party and what not and i can say i have the same problem when im working harder between october and june

[@keithbarbaro7590]

LOL!!!