Trains at: Stafford, WCML, 19/01/24, P1/2

[@chriswhitaker4577]

Hi Tornado922. Great part 1 of your film at Stafford. Looking forward to watching part 2. Kind regards, Chris.

[@Tornado922]

Thank you kindly Chris

[@eaea2332]

I felt the tilting of Pendolino before I knew avanti has this technology, while driving London to Manchester.

[@Tornado922]

They are fantastic units

[@robertstrainsnsw1596]

Great film at Stafford can't wait to see part 2

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much Robert!

[@ziaakbar2535]

Stafford is always a great station to film at

[@Tornado922]

It really is!

[@phillgoldsmith252]

Hey tornado. Hope you had a great Christmas and New year. So glad your out and about doing what you love. Looking forward to all your videos this year !!!!

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much Phill, I had a very lovely Christmas thank you, even though it was 4 months ago now haha. I hope you did too

[@RickyNowis]

Ooofa, oofa oofa. Wow, outstanding first part of Stafford. To be honest, I've never seen soo many test and freight trains all in one session. Looking forward to the second part :-)

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much bud, I always love coming here but you always get to see so much traffic!

[@arnoldspottingvideos5269]

Great video at part 1 Jarred. At the start of the video was 66771 "Amanda". I can't wait for part 2 😃

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much bud :)

[@eastlondontransport6468]

Great video mate especially with the amount of variety you managed to see can’t wait to see what Part 2 has to offer 😊

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much bud

[@nottinghamtransportenthusi2784]

The scrap run was cancelled altogether in the end and the 11:33 Cross Country service to Manchester Piccadilly from Bournemouth had 221130 doing the honours for it. It looked like a lot of test runs were taking place and I have no doubt we'll see more with Avanti West Coast as well before the introduction of their new bi-mode trains into service replacing the 221 Super Voyager fleet, which I'm going to assume will be heading for Cross Country with their tilting mechanisms removed if rumours believe to be true although we probably won't know yet.

[@Tornado922]

It is a shame that the scrap run was cancelled as I was looking forward to seeing that, but I've still got plenty more chances to see one on the move. It does seem strange that Cross Country remove the tilting mechanism from the 221s as it just slows the trains down that little bit more and increases the journey times

[@eaea2332]

I didn't know there is train from Bournemouth to Manchester, It is long drive, but impressive service. a lot of routes in UK. I thought only Avanti west coast is serving this part of UK.

[@Tornado922]

Well now you know :)

[@alanshelly7068]

A very good Sunday evening buddy from Alan in Lowestoft and a very happy new year buddy 😊

[@Tornado922]

Thank you kindly Alan

[@Trainspotter11_]

Fantastic video, really enjoyed watching part 1. :)

[@Tornado922]

Thank you kindly

[@benholtonsrailways4020]

Fantastic video my friend and i hope ur keeping well 🚂

[@Tornado922]

Thank you kindly, I am doing very well thanks. Hope you are too

[@Desiro360]

Happy New Year. Cool video to start 2024. 😀

[@Tornado922]

thank you kindly :)

[@shihanthetrainspotter]

Great video Bet those LNWR 730s will be 10 coaches when they come into service because I’m hearing that they will be 3 coaches and 5 coaches only it would be better for them to also be 10 coaches especially during peak time like how they do with the 720s in the morning and evening

[@Tornado922]

I'm sure as the years go by those units will get extended

[@tjwillow20]

On rtt it says the scrap move was cancelled due to a late arrival of an inbound service. The light engine move from Derby going to pick it up was cancelled at Lichfield trent Valley due to the train operators request.

[@Tornado922]

Ah right ok, thanks for that

[@kennysvlogs4389]

Brilliant Your so good !!!

[@Tornado922]

Thank you kindly!

[@TheTrainSpotter2005]

19:02 In the end it’s really about capacity issues. These were ordered for frequency based back in Virgin CrossCountry days and that idea was bad enough. The XC side is where the hate is mainly targeted not just capacity, but toilet and smell issues. As they say you can’t properly balance Frequency and Capacity. Although the Avanti side can do at least some form of better when they don’t short form to 5. I can’t really blame XC for any of this with there fleet of 58 voyagers (barley enough for double headers) and often under fire about capacity with the Dft reluctant decision of pushing away the much needed HST. Whilst they are due to receive 7 from Avanti once released, it still wouldn’t be enough to fill in the gaps!

[@Tornado922]

XC really need to invest in some purpose built rolling stock suited for long distance intercity travel with much better capacity

[@Matthew_Webb_2023]

Great video as always jarred. What's happening with the southeastern mainline series you started just before Xmas?

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much, the SEML series is currently in full swing

[@Sparkiestransoprtvlog-cy4lu]

Brilliant video

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much

[@MrTudwud]

The "Voyagers" are mainly hated by passengers. I can't stand the things, having had to stand on them for long distances on so many occasions. You mention "4 car trains on long distance services" - I can't agree more. You may as well call them 3 cars in the case of the "Voyagers" as 1st class takes up one other. The new units being built in 3 and 5 car rakes are also a worry as these are already replacing 4 (3 car) and 8 (5 car) trains. I have seen two 3s replacing 8s too. I have mentioned this on other channels and received mixed replies. You have called out Transport for Wales for doing this on a number of occasions and, just before Christmas (at Shrewsbury) a 2 car 158 turned up there on a working to Birmingham International. Apart from the already packed train, there were enough people waiting on the platform to fill three 158s! (maybe even more) and most had large suitcases with them. The inevitable rows started when most were unable to board the train and had to join an empty "stopper" West Midlands service where they would have to change at Birmingham New Street to get to the airport. It seems to me that the TOCs are either ignoring the agreed "loading" arrangements or something radical has changed the rules, hence all these short trains.

[@claireleonard-cx1xj]

Why?

[@claireleonard-cx1xj]

Are the vogagers hated

[@MrTudwud]

@@claireleonard-cx1xjI've already explained "why". Passengers get really annoyed with Voyagers turning up already full before they get on; standing for ages and the fact that one quarter of a 4 car version is first class. 4 and 5 car versions have replaced 7 car HSTs and 8 coach locomotive hauled trains in the "Inter City" era. The first dozen trips I made on these units was standing up and the total time standing on these trips was 15 and a half hours. Since then, at least half of all my (many) journeys on them has been spent in the vertical position, and the rest hopping from carriage to carriage trying to find a vacated, non-reserved seat for a portion of the journey. IMO, that's "why".

[@keiranclarke2955]

I actually love the voyagers. I like the noises of them when they depart and I like how fast and far they go to. I would love to travel on a voyager. I'm probably the only one who loves the voyagers. Sorry to disappoint the rest of you.

[@MrTudwud]

@@keiranclarke2955 You can be a railway enthusiast; you can be a passenger; you can be both. Everybody is entitled to their opinions railway-wise and both passengers and enthusiasts will "love or hate" locos/units etc. for all sorts of reasons. When you travel extensively on long-distance services like I do, I have come to expect a "train" with the capacity to operate the service it is allocated to. IMO, the Voyagers have never done this and, for the most part, on virtually every journey I have made on them, they have been packed to standing with every seat reserved for all or multiple parts of the journey. This problem is not just confined to "Voyagers" either; 2 car "Sprinters"/3 car TP units etc. are also responsible for packed to standing trains. If I dropped my travel and concentrated solely on enthusiasm, I might hold a different opinion. Unfortunately, I am unable to do so!

[@keiranclarke2955]

Since when did the Edinburgh trains call at Stafford. I might have been missing out on the WCML lol

[@trentjunction5676]

Apparently there is still three db class 60s running, they was stopped for routine checks

[@Tornado922]

Since this has gone out they have now all been pulled I think

[@Wandychanel377]

AMAZING

[@Tornado922]

Thank you kindly

[@keiranclarke2955]

7:16 a Glasgow train overtaking an Edinburgh train. Never expected that lol

[@Tornado922]

Always expect the unexpected haha

[@claire123hewlett]

I love your vids

[@Tornado922]

That's very kind of you to say

[@johntrainspotter5046]

Nice video jarred

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much

[@davidakinbode5307]

Good video man

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much!

[@johnwayne2896]

At 31:12 the class 730s slow down and then quickly speeds up

[@Tornado922]

I can only assume it was a signal check

[@Sarahbryson321]

Nice video.

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much

[@nilsw78]

nice video

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much

[@Senselessdust]

That 70 sounded amazing!! Great vid! What is the best station to go to out of Manchester Piccadilly, Manchester Victoria or Manchester airport?

[@Tornado922]

The 70 was always going to sound great for sure, in regards to the better of the three stations I would have to say that Manchester Piccadilly would be the best to go to in terms of variety

[@KatherinePathiranage]

Torado you should visit Norwich soon you haven’t in a while!

[@nottinghamtransportenthusi2784]

I agree with that myself although there's not much variety around there anymore I'll tell you!

[@Tornado922]

I have plans to go there at some stage this year!

[@Gamingtrainandsigns2024]

Great video dude.

[@Tornado922]

Thanks very much

[@tdm2642]

Can you do Gillingham?

[@Tornado922]

at some stage I will see what I can do

[@jamieclarkson8757]

Hey Jared how are you . Have you seen 350 104 yet the Eurovision livery ?

[@Tornado922]

I'm doing very well thanks, how are you? I have seen it and I think it's absolutely awful!

[@lordstiffupperlip3095]

Hello Sir ! . I live near Crewe and in the past I often would catch the train to Manchester Pic for shopping trips and it would cost off peak about £13.00 return , I've not been for a while as I'm put off by the lack of trains running now . Do you think that Virgin ran a better service as I do ?

[@Tornado922]

Hello there, I do have to say with the experience I've had with Avanti West Coast I can't say that they are any better or worse than Virgin Trains in all honesty. Although I do know that they are causing a lot of upset with how they are changing up some of the routes that they are operating and some of their calling patterns

[@Williamadlam1]

hello happy new year mate how are you doing my mate please let me know kind regards William?

[@Tornado922]

I am doing very well thanks, hope you're keeping well?

[@UTTVM73]

Sorry but next time can u go to sunningdale in berkshire

[@Tornado922]

I'll add that to my list of places to go to at some stage

[@peterwhitaker4038]

please stop calling 'Basford Hall'..BAS HALL. it was one of the worlds largest train yards once and deserves respect of her full title, not getting at you personally because i love your videos, just hate people shortening things to be 'rather Hip'. like kids who spend my tax for years at university and can't even say that name..they say 'UNI' as if they are clever or something. keep going Tornado let's have more

[@theaviationkid1309]

Cry

[@Tornado922]

I can see where you are coming from, in future I shall try to refrain from using its abbreviation :)