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00:00 - Intro
02:17 - Khayon
04:02 - Eidolon
07:09 - Kharn
10:57 - Honsou
15:55 - Luther
18:11 - Sevatar
20:49 - Erebus
23:05 - Kibre
26:00 - Kassar
28:33 - Death Guard
31:30 - Outro
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[@Baldus-the_bald_guy]

i bet the "top ten non-human characters we want back" video is going to be all eldar (if thats true i will be shocked)

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

I MEANT TO SAY NON-SPACE MARINE

[@franciscorui]

Shas kais would be wanted

[@Baldus-the_bald_guy]

makes sense@@livefromtheblacklibrary

[@Erebusdidnothingwrongish]

Oh I stole your idea, I didn't read your comment actively. I must have glanced at it when I opened up comments, then thought it was my final idea. Sorry Brother 🫡

[@vuk3303]

Give me Shas'O R'myr or give me death

[@oysterscrolls]

As a fellow bad parent situation haver, best of luck man. It's insanely difficult getting out, and you've done the hardest part already. It's all gonna get easier from here.

[@tokiravenborne6252]

don't apologize dude, you have collage, your priorities are in the right place.

[@lorddevilfish5868]

I honestly think Sevetar fighting Skraivok would be a badass reflection of the two halves of the Nightlords, the deluded arbiters of Justice vs the selfish sadist.

[@Sweetness71775]

Sevatar vs. Decimus. The universally respected 1st Captain vs the Prophet of the VIIIth Legion.

[@emzetkin1100]

Kibre is 100% canonically still alive. One of the codices mentions him being alive during the 13th Black Crusade. The Aphotic Blade is still active under his command.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Yeah he is, he was in the arks of omen too! It makes me wonder why they bothered to kill him off in Saturnine

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

@@livefromtheblacklibrary I have a theory: He used the Warp to create some sort of Doppelganger to fight for him, maybe he had some secret misgivings about attacking the tunnels with the Justeran but decided to not look like a wimp or something.

[@brado.y.7919]

​, as a little treat

[@jeambeam3173]

Possessed Terminators really need to be a thing Kiber is one sick mofo

[@jacobfadipe3703]

@@livefromtheblacklibrary I feel like its just a writer disconnect, I mean Kibre is killed almost a decade after black legion comes out in Saturnine so the writer may have genuinely just not been aware that he was supposed to be left alive, besides chaos can always just do some warp bullshittery to bring characters back to life, i mean they do i all the time so it wouldn't exactly be ground breaking for him to just go behold we sacrificed 30 million orphans I'm back

[@horatiopelagius8703]

Iron within, iron without. You're awesome, man.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

THANKS BRO 😭

[@budderk1305]

jesus, that end bit hit hard, hope you'll be well

[@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd]

*honsou returns* honsou : behold! a daemonculaba big enough to fit a primarch in! uriel ventris : ah shit, here we go again

[@farseeraradrel4808]

The absolute joke about Kor Phaeron in 40k is that he's the "major" antagonist of the Psychic Awakening Book II : Faith&Fury. He leads the Word Bearers, Night Lords and Iron Warriors against the Cardinal World of Talledus, defended by the SoB, the Black Templars, Salamanders and White Scars. You didn't know because, in a serie focused around bringing existing named character up to speed (like Jain Zar, Ghazghkull, Ragnar, Shadowsun, etc.) or creating new ones (Kyria Draxus), Faith&Fury is the only book who released with a generic miniature (a Chaos Sorcerer). Yep. The plotline that brought back Kor Phaeron and three of the Traitor Legion to speed got nowhere and the release forgot to gave him a miniature for the occasion. Sucks right ?

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

Yeah, that was one of MANY letdowns with the whole Psychic Awakening thing. "Things you will not believe"? Yeah, right.

[@leandrocastello309]

... all you mentioned doesnt have any flaw. If they keept that at the forefront fans of other factions would start yelling these guys are having too much screentime.

[@secondarytrollaccount666]

Kor phaeron is a kiddy didler and needs to get the horus treatment.

[@DCJMS]

''Crossing the Rubicon? Can your Imperium get anymore trite'' Hon'su probaly

[@theeggplantman13456]

12:04 actually it's imperial fists

[@Acheru]

Correct.

[@lachlanevans5013]

He probably just misspoke

[@adamredbeard5232]

I bet in the "loyalists we want back", #1 will be John Grammaticus. I know we just got more of him in "the end and the death vol 3," but Live is such a huge fan of his.

[@benren7305]

I've heard "and only heard online" that the storm of iron epilogue has Honsou talking to Perturabo after all of the Ultramar war.

[@sergentharker7182]

I've heard that too, but it was only printed in a limited re-release of Storm of Iron, so there's basically just the Lexicanum post to go on really

[@purpledevil4040]

Listened to the audiobook. They were playing regicide together.

[@casketbase7750]

I too would like to see more Khayon. He's a fun foil to Ahriman, being an unrepentant evil sorcerer. Would love to see them interact.

[@sc-gp2mb]

To be honest I would love to see the red corsairs given more spot light. I want more renegade space pirates.

[@sergentharker7182]

Huron actually got a novel in 2022 called Master of the Malestrom that's apparently pretty good, but honestly I want more Red Corsairs too, or other csm pirate bands. Hell, a renegade Imperial Navy force turned chaos pirates would kick ass

[@regesteel548]

I'd love to see Amit the original chapter master of the flesh tearers come back as a traitor who fell to khorne. The bloodbath that would follow a battle of him and gabriel seth would be awesome. Plus you could have it where gabriel loses the first fight and ends up needing to cross the rubicon before their next one. Pimaris Gab would be so pissed lol

[@jo_ken]

I hope for Loyalists you’ve got Pedro Kantor and Alessio Cortez on the list, since dang the Crimson fists need some attention.

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

Sons of Dorn represent.

[@Matt-md5yt]

agreed Dorn has some great kiddos that need more love

[@acrocurious8023]

Total respect for your dedication to education! I'll be here when ever you post. I love your videos, to be fair I am also obsessed with the Alpha Legion. I wanted to float an interesting idea. In the way that all Primarchs are partial warp stuff. Using the example of the Lion and Corax. What if there are no Daemon Primarchs? What if those Primarchs fallen to Chaos have been tricked by chaos and believe they are corupted and "reality" reflects that belief? Take Perturabo is he just a reflection of what he thinks he should be. We know his idea of "chaos" on a much smaller scale this could easily explain Sanguinius's wings. What are your thoughts on this idea? Could all Primarchs be redeemed?

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

YOOOO THATS ACTUALLY REALLY INTERESTING!!!! Personally I don’t think they’re not corrupted but I think that could be a way to turn corrupted primarchs back

[@Erebusdidnothingwrongish]

“ I am Alpharius”. Next book on my list is “Legion” form HH. O see good reviews. I k ow nothing about the Alpha Legion. Can you suggest what I should read or listen to in order to get the best from you're experience? I am trying to find my army. I really like the periphery of 40 K so how are the high Lords act, how the officio assassin works. How shit gets done. Thank you if you get the time to respond.

[@leandrocastello309]

Oooohhh boy, they cant do that. The fandom would start another riot if GW retcon all the daemon primarchs as "not actually chaos" (well, all exept perty).

[@isaacschmitt4803]

That makes an ungodly amount of sense, and I'm kinda here for it. Not that I think that's the direction GW intended, nor is it the direction I think they'll go, since it would kinda put a bow on the whole story, with at least a semi-happy ending. And 40k doesn't really *do* happy endings on a large scale like that. Not without something truly awful happening to take it's place, like the Tyranids really breaking down the door, or some yet unknown faction coming into play, like another Chaos entity like the enslavers or something. Can't have grimdark if all of humanity is united and *less* at war. The same reason why the Emperor is probably never returning in any real way. Like, if he comes back, he's probably not going to do any fighting unless he's forced to. He's probably going to go play mad scientist again, having learned nothing. But as for the Primarchs, the fallen nine are likely going to stay fallen because Grecian tragedy gonna tragedy, and it would upset the status quo. Here's what I think is going to happen in at least the near future: Vashtorr is going to become a major power if not another proper Chaos god, we're going to see the Dark Mechanicus and Iron Warriors (with Perty) get some love in the tabletop, maybe Dark Guard, too, if we're lucky. Emperor's Children are going to get a refresh with a focus on those sweet, sweet Noise Marines and with Fulgrim as a Daemon Primarch (probably the exact same model for 30k). Lorgar and Corvus will come back as playable Daemon Primarchs for reasons (and as a pair because gotta have both). The Aeldari, Leagues of Votann, and T'au will be forgotten in GW's own pile of shame. Probably more Tyranid shenanigans that ultimately go nowhere. Necrons have been getting a mild refresh, and their recent books have been pretty solid, if not mind-blowing in a big-picture kind of way. Probably more Flayed Ones lore with the next Ruin/Reign/Profit books. Orks are doing entertaining things with Gaz. Probably more of the same. And the status quo will never change because there's no money in it.

[@grantkruger3689]

@@Erebusdidnothingwrongish As far as I've read, Legion is a good start. In the HH series, the Alpha Legion show up again in Deliverance Lost, and they have a good short story in the Primarchs anthology two books on from that. As mentioned in the video, Shroud of Night is also good.

[@GotrekGurnisson]

Honsou the crossbreed Decimus Typhus (or a marine beneath him) I’d like Ahriman to be relevant. His books are fun but have 0 effect on anything Kharn killed everyone interesting in the world eaters so womp womp A lot of sons of Horus would be interesting

[@Elduroto]

I'm really hoping you get out of your situation, I'm sorry you are going through this.

[@HorizonIsHere1337]

Whoa, what a cliff hangar of an outro. Would love to help you out bro when your ready. Love your content as always bro. You've done amazing to get the channel this big in such a short period of time.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

THANKS MAN

[@Big_Black_Knight]

I kinda would want to at least a short story about how Vheren Ashurhaddon lands in modern setting because i think it would be cool to see his ideals about honor, tradition and his disdain for chaos corruption crash with state of traitor forces.

[@vake1234]

nobody. want. erebus. BACK!!! unless he dies more horribly than anyone could imagine.

[@Matt-md5yt]

by Kharn since Erebus did him dirty

[@kahunab7400]

Erebus did nothing wrong!

[@MMP-lj5xp]

I pray that you are able to improve things regarding your end message for this video. Thank you for the great content you’ve provided so far and being an incredible member of the 40k KZbinr community!

[@guitardunce7571]

I love the fanart that indicates that Kharn is, relatively speaking, the calm one in the group of Angron, Lotarra and Kharn.

[@Jamison-kh5wu]

We love our midterm schedule I get it too. I spent 12 hours yesterday writing like 6 essays

[@antii001]

when you started talking about the alpha legion i was fully expecting it to be about ingo pech and was pretty surprised it wasn't honestly because i would love to see what's going to happen with him

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

SAME but I decided not to because I made a video about him already

[@jamesjjameson1632]

Im gonna say what I said to a friend of mine once "Honsou got that dawg in him."

[@TheGostalex]

I fell you. Just finished the exam session.

[@judsonbates1359]

Eidolon and Sevatar are musts. If both are still alive. In particular, I think that Sevatar would offer so much to the current storyline. How cool would it be to be able to choose a Traitor Legion that hated Chaos as much as the Emperor? One that had a sense of honor, if you could call it that, but that was not in any way “good guys.” Or, you could make them a depraved warband and not affiliated with Sevatar. Eidolon would be interesting if he either has some internal struggle about what the Legion has become or if he has conflict with Fulgrim - making the Legion dynamic much more interesting.

[@josephstrouth519]

Zso Sahaal of the night lords. I can't stop simping for that confused but well-written boy. He doesn't like chaos. He doesn't like the imperium. He liked Curze to the extent that his entire existence has been based around the scarecrow man

[@josephstrouth519]

I can't edit my comment for some reason. His strong sense of justice also makes him arguably a better person than the humans on the imperial world he inhabits in his novel. And he gets a consenting human girlfriend through his vlad the impaler vibes

[@Leman.Russ.6thLegion]

Death guard option: Decius. The young buddy to Garro during hh, who became lord of flies.

[@wyoguy9720]

Surprised you didn’t mention Decimus at all.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

True but the Jago cliffhanger is too tantalizing

[@wyoguy9720]

@@livefromtheblacklibrary I completely agree, I’ve mentioned to you multiple times that I’m a zealous Sevatar fan. He’s my favorite character in the entire setting. Maybe he became a grey knight, maybe he was executed. ADB may revisit it just for closure. His evolution in the Long Night was fascinating with his epiphany of what he eventually deemed as the true enemy.

[@drachir7146]

​@wyoguy9720 I think Jago being quite a practical man, would end up becoming a Grey Knight therefore giving the Grey Knights the Precognition of the Night Lords

[@jw7500]

My main concern about Sev, is how in the world is he still alive? Like, he isn't in the eye of terror and should be in DA custody. At this point he should already be beyond his natural life span.

[@wyoguy9720]

@@jw7500 I personally think he’s dead in the modern setting, and that he died some time after the heresy either my execution or in the service of the grey knights. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

[@xMoobyx]

Just finished the video and i really hope you the best and i hope the community helps you with your goals. I lnow you told us a bit more in depth in your iron warriors video. I really wish you the best in your journey to a better future, much love ❤

[@729060]

The fact that Sev has most of his appearances in short stories or as a side character in someone else's book I will never forgive. On top of the fact that its strongly implied that he becomes the founder of the Space Sharks but that we will never get a book on exactly how that happened.

[@blackmonish]

"The Emporer rising from his throne, ass-ramming the gods of Chaos, before decapitating all four of them with one hand, while doing a guitar solo with the other" < "Khan Kills Erebus"

[@albe8479]

jesus christ, wish you the best mate

[@thatfrog05]

I personally want to see Decimus. They guy who replaced talos, come back to the setting. Especially since the nightlords have been becoming more popular

[@ramblingcollector3165]

Same though! Decimus possibly being not only the son of Septimus and Octavia, but also essentially the progeny of all of First Claw considering his armor setup, it’d be really cool to see a character centered novel about him and his crusade against the Eldar!

[@sumwherenotgud3386]

Kibre was part of the Justerin before the Horus Hersey he became part of the mournival after Istaan III

[@Sleepynotlazy]

As for loyalists we want back, my main man Malakim Phoros is really underrated.

[@L00ww]

who is that?

[@g.sergiusfidenas6650]

​@@L00ww Chapter Master of the Lamenters

[@Sleepynotlazy]

He has the coolest titles. Lord of Ruin and the Watcher of the Deeps.

[@grantkruger3689]

Some proper Lamenters books would be nice.

[@champcpr]

How do you “ship” in anyone in Chaos, let alone a World Eater who’s only capable of Anger and bloodshed? Lol😅

[@chuckschultz1745]

I fell in love with Gendor Skraivok skipping across the first wall, prancing about, deluded about his own abilities, and after challenging Ralderon to 1v1, weeping for his life like a coward. In the half chapter he showed more dimension and detestability than 90% of 40k's edgelord bad attitude villians. I would really love to have him back, and hopefully not made a paint by the numbers chaos bad guy after his time with his swords deamon in the warp.

[@tristanwood1308]

An absolute Erebus sweep!

[@yamibakura8597]

Kronos, I love and support you. Keep up the good work and do whatever you need to. I hope you can get out and live the life you want to.

[@memeshort7189]

I love you Chrono I love you so much. Run run run baby

[@eskil5306]

Suggestion for you regarding the money situation. If you have a close friend you trust use their bank account as a piggy bank, have the money taken out into physical money and stash it away for later usage.

[@cyrusmann5443]

ngl, from my experience things always get better bro, my parents used to be neglectful and argumentative until dad went sober, and now things have gotten better, two of my friends had horrible step-dads and both ended up going away, hope the best for you. also what I REALLY want is more sons of malice content, even if ik it will never come

[@Infinity_Coda]

One of the coolest things that the World Eaters army update did was introduce Lord Invocatus. He's a brand new character, not tied to the Heresy, with his own war band who very much represents a rising star amongst the legion's various fragments with really cool lore and a distinct identity as being able to ride through the sky on his juggernaut. I'd love to see more of that sort of thing from the traitors, and I think Death Guard and Thousand Sons could really benefit from that. Especially Thousand Sons tbh, since Magnus' presence kinda drags them down and keeps them way too dependent on their rivalry with the Space Wolves imo

[@ChroniclesofAzazel]

Myself, and I assume many of us, stand ready to try and help you out once you're ready! With your video qualities as wonderful as they are, I can only imagine how much better they will become once you're in safer surroundings 😊

[@gadzilla6664]

Great video and list. One character that I think you missed is Zso Sahaal of the 8th Legion, which is understandable because he's from a fairly old book (Lord of the Night, 2005). I'd love to see his return, with Mita Ashyn in tow.

[@justinhoyt5982]

Yay I like this guy

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

👀👉👈

[@odinlindeberg4624]

I'm fine with Sevatar not making it to M42, as long as ADB gives us some information on what happens to him from the SoT and through into the scouring. What I do want is Decimus. A model and a book about him attempting to unite the legion, as well as outlining how he uses his ability to see the future as a fighter and strategist.

[@gagetaylor54]

Kharn has another modern appearance in “Shroud of Night”, by Andy Clark, in which he’s (as almost always) portrayed as an unstoppable monster. My fav scene in the book is when the main Alpha Legion Marine tries to leg sweep Kharn, and it does jack-all to him, being described as “feeling like he kicked the leg of a dreadnought” (Edit: posted this before you talked about Kassar, my b :P )

[@theezekarion164]

Talon of horus got me into the hobby. 5 years $55,000 All thanks too Aaron Dempski-Bowden.

[@brandonlamb5694]

I would thoroughly be stoked to hear more about Sevetar. Definitely one of my favorite traitors and a character with a lot of depth. I also agree with your comments on Abbadon, how he needs to be more of a character rather than a plot device.

[@incredibleIDKFA]

Awesome list but I'm missing doom rider here 😂 Also best of luck with your situation at home

[@michaelo5665]

"dark king" maker?.... I see what you did there lol. that would be the ultimate coup for Erebus.

[@scrappertherapper3520]

I adore Honsou, by far my favorte traitor marine besides Talos, and you're right, the man is a complete menace who doesn't ccare about honour or the glory of battle, he just wants to win and that's it, though I will mention this, you confused his Geneseed, he is in reality a cross of Iron Warrior Geneseed and Imperail Fist, hence he is called the Halfbreed adn hated throughtout a bug part of the legion.

[@sergentharker7182]

Id love Sevatar to come back, even if he's been like twisted by the warp into something like a Warp Talon with a chainglaive it would be super cool, especially if he's like a warp entity enforcing Night Lords justice and not one of the ruthless sadists like a lot of his brothers 😊

[@_brushie]

Eidelon is alive and had a chat with Fabius in the Fabius Bile trilogy Clonelord. One other note I think will make you wanna read it (if I remember correctly), Lucius is mentioned and in the same room, Bile pretty much says, "You're not even gonna talk asshole?" and doesn't have a line of dialogue in the book. I don't wanna spoil anything, but lets just say what you think he should be doing for the Emperor's Children is pretty closely described in the book. Also Noise Marines are featured through pretty much the whole trilogy.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Shit I REALLY need to get to those books

[@Catterjee]

​@@livefromtheblacklibrary An Omnibus was either just released or just about to be released

[@unclesamlore]

Khayon is a character i miss so much. The black legion books are top 5 favorite 40k books ever for me

[@davidgoebel2829]

I bet we will get more Sevitar story in the presumptive scouring series. Maybe not as a main character (still possible tho) but something to update his lore for a potential return in 40k.

[@ichbineinberliner1776]

I would like to see Izzakar Orr again from "Ashes of Prospero" I really loved the banter between him and Njall.

[@o.w.n.1327]

Since you mentioned Kharn and his novel I am gonna mention our pov character of the novel. Dreagher, I don't care when he died or how he died. I just want to know what happened to him. Dreagher was such a likeable marine who was there with Kharn on Skallathrax but that's it. We never learned what happened to him. What will happen on Skallathrax will broke Dreagher I have even think that he would succumb to the nails. He fought and kept kharn safe while he was in coma and believed he would be the only one to unite the legion. And then Skallathrax happens and knowing it was kharn who broke the legion who was supposed to unite it. Dreagher will go crazy.

[@jerryjezzaberry5009]

Eidolon plays more then a bit part and actually does a fair few of the things discussed here in the book genefather. Honestly the fabius trilogy made fabius and the 3rd my favourite group maybe in the entirety of warhammer its excellent and I really cannot recommend it enough

[@Batlord_Carcas]

I am a major Noise Marines fan, owned an army of them since high school

[@WatchThatKilcam15]

the goat is back!

[@mrtrista007]

hang on hang on ... no Argel Tal!? id call it heresy but i guess this is the lack of heresy.... Anyways great vid, just miss Argel

[@IRCannonFodder]

Death Guard does need a small series like the Night Lords. Lords of Silence was a nice start but if they could have more and different outlook on being a plague marine. Something other than, I am a puppet for the Grandfather rawr.

[@ismaelbigot7302]

Good video. Your opinions on 40k are really cool and I love your channel. It's good that you're able to do your own stuff beside and take care of yourself. Thx!

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

THANKS MAN THST MEANS A LOT

[@ismaelbigot7302]

​@@livefromtheblacklibrary you have really interesting ideas and understanding of the lore, it is refreshing. It is incredibly important to stay focused on what is important. Making less videos isn't a problem, as long as you're satisfied with your results. Your videos are sufficiently good to justify any time taken doing them, and I enjoy them even more by knowing that they don't impact your life in a negative way. (Also, I really hope that Erebus come back so we can hate him even more)

[@richardvaldes3959]

12:50 I laughed so hard at this depiction of the iron warriors

[@gilbertgarnica7896]

I wanna see more Orks, World Eaters, Dark Angels, Kriegsman, Chaos Knights, Dark Mechanicum, Grey Knights, Alpha Legion, and Nightlords!!!!

[@stertrack520]

Honsou : *drops in a book the most grusome and grimdark gore show in all of fiction* *leav without further elaboration*

[@BearCavalryWasTaken]

I’m really happy you mentioned Kassar he’s a really obscure guy but I love him, also no one mentioned the Alpha Legion warp entity in the epilogue of the book

[@Schwartzbruder1]

Khayon might sound like a mary sue to some but to me he makes sense as one of the super powerful Chaos Lords that make up the Black Legion. Just imo and headcanon because Black Legion is supposed to be the Ultramarine equivalent for Chaos. There should be a super strong Chaos Lord for that represents the original 9 traitors within the Black Legion. All the other names guys from the codexes are already their own separate thing.

[@AthosJosue]

Grulgor is alive? First time I heard about it. It would be cool having Garro back in some way (maybe as a saint?) and grulgor as his nemesis.

[@b1on1k638]

I think that’d be cool if Fulgrim didn’t come back. If the Emperor’s Children got their army with Eidolon leading them instead of Fulgrim because Fulgrim just doesn’t give enough of a shit and he’s busy being hedonistic. Also it wouldn’t make sense to have a resin and plastic daemon Fulgrim model.

[@tanavast4140]

I’ve never donated a cent to any streamer or KZbin membership, but when you get your Patreon figured out, I’ll make sure to slide you a few clams. Hang in there dude IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT

[@Evohunter7]

I would love to see another book on the Lords of Silence. Have the imperium try to retake the planet. Or the Word Bearer’s take revenge.

[@hairyteddy2]

In the novel Storm of Iron by Graham McNeill where we first meet Honsou,, it is said that his genetic heritage is both Iron Warrior and Imperial Fist gene stock. This is why the majority of the Iron Warriors hate him so much, because he carries their most hated enemies gene seed within him. I don't recall reading that Honsou's heritage is Iron Warrior and Word Bearers. However I haven't read the novel Angel Exterminatus, so the author may have changed his origin story.

[@tornadic_brigadier7868]

Great list! Although a little off topic, I do wish we got some new Thousand Sons characters, yes we have Ahriman and Magnus. But that is it, which is disappointing. We also don’t really know what the legion is up to other than invading Fenris and them invading the Stygian sector which we don’t know if chaos is still control of the sector.

[@charlievizthum6515]

It’s kinda soft confirmed that the Sevatar founded the space sharks after the events of prince of Crows and the long night so it doesn’t really make sense for him to come back. It would be nice to finally get a book on that though.

[@pipeline789]

Isn't Luther chained up within the rock? I read that in a Dark Angels book, where they used this fact to break Astelan. But I don't remember it very clearly, maybe Boreas lied to Astelan here.

[@Svenskiii]

The Flayer guy from the ADB NightLords books! :)

[@siberian1804]

Imo for sevatar: he is alive and he will come back and try to Reunite the whole legion and make the night lord a proper legion, and with this (as example the kill team) make the night lords codex for tabletop (and so new books) its a big hope and kinda "exagerated" but i wanna try to believe it

[@madnox9538]

Guys you forgot the Painted Count, his 10000 years of punishment should be over. He should already return to 40k. The Night Lords get at least one somewhat competent Meme Character.

[@johnnyscifi]

In all fairness, dreadnoughts aside theres no loyal marines still alive in 40k from the HH Edit: dreadnoughts AND Fallen/Risen

[@CalebAdams]

Awesome video idea! This was super fun, looking forward to other iterations of the series!

[@coltonlong7562]

I hope Vorx just goes home to chill with his beast men and make plagues.

[@indrys7719]

I think we need more of Decimus from the Night Lords. Like he’s the new leader of the Night Lords, and we’ve heard nothing. How?!?

[@Terribads]

There seems to be a long-term and growing theme of even the traitor primarchs being less than the favored henchmen of chaos and being eclipsed in importance by some captains... or ded, yo.

[@ajax542]

I want Erebus to return only to be killed by the most painful way possible.

[@coldfire-blitz3122]

Lmao 9:05 what you mean is Angron copped a feel

[@allystermack2439]

It wasn't even Angron, it was mentioned in the hh book 'betrayer' that Kharn had awarded the blood hand.

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

I think Kibre would be pretty interesting to bring back; not only for the reasons Chrono mentioned (excellent though those reasons are), but also because we could potentially have a sort of insight into the sort of duality of the Black Legion. On the one hand, there's the official line that they're a whole new legion - the "legion of the Long War" - and on the other there's the whole issue of a good chunk of them (especially the veterans and leadership) being ex-Sons of Horus, at least some of whom, like Abaddon and Kibre, participated in the betrayal and murder of those of their legion brothers who chose to stay loyal to the memory of Horus. Bonus points if we get a character representing the ironically-named "thrice-cursed traitors" - those warbands of the Sons of Horus who refused to join Abaddon and/or spit on their primarch's memory - like Vheren Ashuraddon to represent the other end the ideological spectrum to Kibre and Abaddon: that Horus wasn't weak and that the Sons of Horus still deserve to be the first among traitors without denying who they are. Granted all of the characters in this video would be a treat to see again in some form or another!

[@stoops187]

I really hope they bring back Decimus and Sevatar, Night Lords need some more screen time.

[@FnRenner]

No worries. The good thing about Warhammer on YT is that when a channel stops posting videos for a week or forever it's not really a big deal due to the oversaturation of the subject material on the platform. Viewers rarely notice until long after the fact.

[@xzenitramx666]

Ok what is it with the demon piña colada? its more goofy than anything

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

The WHAT

[@xzenitramx666]

@@livefromtheblacklibrary thats how I like to call the daemonculaba since its very goofy similar to the broodmother .

[@studcummings230]

Quality over quantity. You’re stuff is actually good and doesn’t need to be pumped out with surface level attention.

[@mobiusZero2]

Sons of Malal space marine warband. As for your situation I wish you the best of luck as I have own problems not been properly employed.

[@JunoMeHistory]

Hey man, I recently discovered your channel, since im very new to the hobby and 40k as a whole - the ending kinda hit me out of the blue - I myself come from a very abusive household and know pretty well what youve described in the outtro, I think a patreon would be a great idea, and id love to pledge once you do have the ability to open one, since i'd love to help anyway i can

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

THANK YOY MAN THAT MEANS A LOT 😭 I hope I can soon but my concern is paying income tax

[@JunoMeHistory]

@@livefromtheblacklibrary no problem man, I just hope things get better for you soon