"They literally call themselves 'decepticons', that doesn't raise any red flags?" -Best human quote.
@djt08031996 Жыл бұрын
"Until he was offlined by a cosmicly empowered Starscream" - the real best human quote
@CommanderCaseyReviews3 ай бұрын
@@djt08031996 frfr
@Devcon5 жыл бұрын
A remarkable trait that humans have: none of them were taken offline by a Cosmically-Powered Starscream
@nathan124165 жыл бұрын
🤦🏻♂️ lol
@xmarksthespot13725 жыл бұрын
Thank Primus!
@PallysCafe5 жыл бұрын
Lucky us 😅
@VicEntity5 жыл бұрын
Just you wait
@Awesomest9154 жыл бұрын
Actually he destroyed a couple cities.
@avery96275 жыл бұрын
Im fine with human characters so long as they contribute to the story beyond just being a audience proxy. One of my favorite moments is when Fowler helps Bulkhead just by talking to him.
@undrhil5 жыл бұрын
I liked the episode on Animated "This is Why I Hate Machines" where Fanzon is sent to Cybertron (on accident) with Ratchet.
@Sasquatch-ff1pj5 жыл бұрын
I always put humans in two categories. Necessary humans, and unnecessary humans. In Prime, G1, and animated had necessary humans who made some degree of sense being in the plot. The movies, pretty much all the other series had unnecessary humans that added nothing to the plot, and typically just are in the way.
@gutsmasterson24885 жыл бұрын
Sasquatch 2099 What about in Rescue Bots?
@Sasquatch-ff1pj5 жыл бұрын
@@gutsmasterson2488 wouldn't know in that case. Kinda outside my age range and interest. From what I understand about the show and said in this video. My guess would be more towards necessary humans. Being first responders in emergency situations. These people would make sense being in the plot. Part of my determination is: do the people make sense being there. If you cannot justify people being involved or adding to the plot. Then they are unnecessary humans.
@Hillbot985 жыл бұрын
That talk between them gives me chills everytime. Such a memorable and nice moment. P.S. now that I think about it, most of the episode Fowler was talking to Bulkhead helping him get through his mission
@all-stargamer99135 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely on Bob Budiansky's side with this argument. If they're on Earth, they're gonna run into humans. And they have to learn about Earth life somehow. What matters is the quality of the human characters. If they're written well enough that they're genuinely interesting, and don't take the majority of the focus, then I like it when these shows, movies, and comics have humans.
@evanbao935 жыл бұрын
@@jakeproven256 Then that's Budiansky's problem and not the premise he gives to justify it
@gundampeacekeeper5 жыл бұрын
Jake Proven in the 2000s with the minicons I liked the humans
@delibirda93365 жыл бұрын
Me too. Why not?
@callumcrane2415 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@Hillbot985 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree too, I never thought of it that way before
@NivMizzetFiremind5 жыл бұрын
I love the relationship between Jack and Arcee in Prime. It just feels so organic and she makes an excellent friend for him with him helping her get over her rage and ptsd. Watch Prime people!
@Silver-Kaitou2 жыл бұрын
Please! For the love of Primus!
@jakomioftherose24342 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I love that about Prime. Especially that heart-clencher at the end. Arcee: Keep in touch, Jack. Don’t make hunt you down.
@Wolverinefan6162 ай бұрын
Prime was an amazing show
@misterbadguy73255 жыл бұрын
My favorite ever observation about humans in Transformers was in response to a post about whether Transformers have sex: "Are we sure, based on Transformers shows, that humans have sex?" Also you can just hear poor Chris trying to skate around the Kiss Players stuff.
@waterking745 жыл бұрын
Kiss players: *you will never escape*
@Bearded_Bream5 жыл бұрын
Just imagine the horror of someone on Patreon requesting a Kiss Players episode 🤣
@ProfessM5 жыл бұрын
@@Bearded_Bream I hope no one is that cruel to Chris.
@Spartan-Primer5 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessM Inb4 this comment inspires that someone to request Kiss Players the next time Chris opens up Patreon sponsor requests.
@waterking745 жыл бұрын
ProfessM you be surprised
@nil9815 жыл бұрын
Agent Fowler is the best human to feature in a transformers series. He is awesome! I especially like how he can stand up to starscream torturing him and even show no fear towards megatron.
@barrybend71895 жыл бұрын
Agent Fowler isn't the first FBI agent in transformers tv shows to team up with the Autobots. In Cybertron there was one as well as a paleontologist.
@nil9815 жыл бұрын
@@barrybend7189 we dont talk about cybertron.
@edwardo68344 жыл бұрын
Patrick Milewski I agree he’s my favorite
@redalert9233 жыл бұрын
@@edwardo6834 agent Fowler, cade yeager and sari sumdac are my favorite human characters even the animated supervillains
@Johnlennonbeathiswife3 жыл бұрын
@@nil981 OUR WORLDS ARE IN DANGER
@chaoticneutral79765 жыл бұрын
Alexis: I made a marshmallow Starscream. His arms are crossed because he's mad at all the other marshmallow Decepticons for annoying him. Do you like it? Starscream: (choked up) It's fine.
@Robofrog1005 жыл бұрын
WHY WOULD YOU CAUSE ME SUCH PAIN
@ratbat10725 жыл бұрын
No
@leoryff9795 жыл бұрын
@@oreopug7986 It's a reference to The Office.
@callumcrane2415 жыл бұрын
Shiiiiiiip!
@foldabotZ4 жыл бұрын
@@callumcrane241 Yes, is my ship too. If only I had an Alexis toy(preferably an action figure) to go with my Generations deluxe Starscream.
@171QA5 жыл бұрын
My favorite TF human would be Charlie Watson. Her relationship with Bumblebee was so endearing, I would love to see her interacting with other Autobots like Jazz or Ratchet and even Optimus Prime. I hope we can see more iterations of her in the future.
@ShahPhilLeotardo5 жыл бұрын
Dr Arkeville is the best human
@joeygamer53874 жыл бұрын
@@ShahPhilLeotardo "YOU TURNED ME INTO A MECHANICAL FREAK!" He was never seen again Charlie Watson and Bumblebee were an awesome team, very heartwarming
@johnnygyro22953 жыл бұрын
My favorites are the Sumdacs. True, Sari might be cheating since she's a techno-organic hybrid, but that was an interesting plot in itself.
@battleupsaber4625 жыл бұрын
When are we going to get *Humans: The Basics on Transformers* ?
@Darkkrebs5 жыл бұрын
And you've been watching…WHAT on this channel? 😑
@_V.Va_4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that just this channel?
@silverwizardess79214 жыл бұрын
*ba dum tiss* 😎😂
@shadowsnake51334 жыл бұрын
@023 Studios your point? I think I would want to know about the war my basically destroyed but somehow still running 2009 Volkswagen jeda is doing... SERIOUSLY WE FORGOT TO CHANGE THE OIL FOR 5 YEARS, HOW IS IT ALIVE AND NOT A SAFETY HAZARD? WHAT THE HELL IS THE GERMANS DOING TO THEIR CARS, BLOOD SACRIFICES?
@pancho8554 жыл бұрын
@@shadowsnake5133 Maybe your car was a ghost.
@superaustin63834 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad Rescue Bots gets mentioned lot of people tend to ignor it. And Dr Morocco is one of my fave Human Villains on the franchise.
@plantainsame20492 жыл бұрын
the Chad Dr Morocco versus the Virgin Silas they're in the same continuity yet Morocco didn't need to cannibalize Autobots to make his robots he realized that he could just make it like Hasbro does see transforming things exist we know this because of the toys duh I theorize that the reason the transformation Cog is a thing is due to the fact that they need somewhere to safely remove their parts to stop them doing something like accidentally shoving a tire through their Spark
@moonwhooper Жыл бұрын
@plantainsame2049 transforming things exist yes, but they're not living beings like cybertronians
@jinkwon84105 жыл бұрын
The Burns family will always be my favorite group of humans... really makes me wonder what would've happened if they met the Decepticons.
@infiniteoctopaw5 жыл бұрын
Same! The burns family is literally the perfect example of humans done perfectly. They only add to the show. I’d be terrified to see the rescue bots have to deal with a Decepticon. They are not fighters. They’d probably have to call in bumblebee and Optimus for help.
@johnnygyro22953 жыл бұрын
If Deceptions had to show up, maybe the Constructions could've worked? Have them pretend to be allies like they did with Grapple and Hoist in G1, before revealing their true colors?
@Frogadier_002 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine if there was a crossover episode with Prime and Rescue Bots where it's in the Prime show POV? that'd be incredible!!
@plantainsame20492 жыл бұрын
I kind of feel like the Rescue Bots would kick ass as you know they actually can do their job while the Decepticons are the world's most dysfunctional Army while I am new to this fandom basically well I've known it since I was little but you know I never got to the full Obsession I still feel like the Decepticons are a bunch of idiots who barely know what they are doing and just get lucky
@jacksonhopp2003 Жыл бұрын
@@infiniteoctopaw If I’m being honest. The rescue bots are probably the closest thing we’ll get to Cybertronian civilians (Cybertronians that didn’t choose a side). They’re not warriors per say, just regular people ending up on a planet that’s not theirs.
@twistedaxles91262 жыл бұрын
"Where is our screentime?" "The humans have taken it!!!" "You failed me yet again Michael Bay...."
@gavo79115 жыл бұрын
You can FEEL Chris trying his hardest not to bring up Kiss Players lmao
@mariostarfan202 ай бұрын
i don't blame him
@ITweeaboo5 жыл бұрын
I love how Chris side steps saying anything about Kiss Players
@magusreaver5 жыл бұрын
IKR
@knexxpert5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s for the best.
@ITweeaboo5 жыл бұрын
@@knexxpert imma become a patron just to make him go through it lol
@Maswartz2265 жыл бұрын
@@ITweeaboo You monster
@Jormyyy5 жыл бұрын
Kiss Players?
@HenryLouis215 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with Bob Budiansky about the storytelling potential between a human and a Cybertronian. Some people say that the human characters are the most unnecessary part of the franchise and that no TF movie will be good until they remove all of the humans. Granted that critique comes mostly from the movies and I don't really agree on that critique because human characters are sometimes the best part of any Transformers story.
@MichaelAlexKawa5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with both you and Bob Budiansky.
@thajarajkumar23605 жыл бұрын
Transformers are robots not human
@TheDaxter115 жыл бұрын
bumblebee proved humans can be done right in the movies, hell even some of bays human characters werent that bad
@HenryLouis215 жыл бұрын
@@TheDaxter11 I agree. To be honest, my favorite human character in the Bayverse was Attinger and Savoy. Yes, I know people are going to say that they are the bad guys and they killed all the Autobots. But to be honest, they had a good reason to do so, they believed that what they were doing was the right thing and wanted to secure a better future for humanity. Tho their actions where wrong, they had every right to do so. Attinger was concerned for the future of humanity and Savoy wanted revenge by killing all Cybertronians.
@mrheroprimes5 жыл бұрын
@@HenryLouis21 I agree with you there I do think it's the stigma for the dislike of human characters in Transformers was caused by the bayverse. but I can also see the other side of the argument given that the internet pretty much render the need for the Autobots have a human guide obsolete because all they need to do is hack in the world wide web and learn everything they need to know about humans and earth in a matter of seconds. I wll say Transformers Prime and Transformers Animated had the best humans characters.
@matthewmatthew981 Жыл бұрын
In good TF stories, humans are a counter-balance. In bad TF stories, humans are dead weight.
@thedorkknight96843 жыл бұрын
As of right now, I'd say my favorite humans in the series are probably the Burns Family from Rescue Bots. The interactions between the two sides are just so wholesome! Heatwave: This human thing is NEVER going to work out, nobody will ever soften the frozen abyss that is my Spark. Cody: *Exists* Heatwave: Heatwave: Scrap.
@Cybermat475 жыл бұрын
“Master technology allowed humans to horrifically mutilate and contort their bodies, in order to become more marketable.”
@mitchfletcher23865 жыл бұрын
Nah. It made them more flexible.
@shadowsnake51334 жыл бұрын
@@mitchfletcher2386 I mean, we can fit inside a 3 meter diameter sphere, so yeah, I can see that. Or was it feet? I don't remember... oh well, try not to die attempt to fold yourself person who's going to test this to spite me.
@pancho8554 жыл бұрын
@@shadowsnake5133 *LET'S JUST SAY IT'S GOD DAMN MAGIC, OKAY?!!!!*
@Khronik_4 жыл бұрын
I can turn myself into a marketable plushe
@defunctgoosebumpsaccount4 жыл бұрын
That's why i hate Season 3 of G1
@President_Starscream5 жыл бұрын
Those squishy little buggers are a real pain in the thrusters sometimes.
@thomastakesatollforthedark22315 жыл бұрын
Just bomb em if their so annoying
@President_Starscream5 жыл бұрын
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 while that would indeed bring great joy, it is more practical to enslave the fleshlings to harvest the earth's resources for us.
@thomastakesatollforthedark22315 жыл бұрын
President Starscream is it though? Humans require great amounts of food, life short lives, take forever to breed, and waste 8 to 10 hours a day to recharge.
@President_Starscream5 жыл бұрын
@@oreopug7986 while some Cybertronians do indeed seek close relationships, even those that humans might interpret as "romantic", I have no time or patience for such trifles. Though I do admit that there's a bit of a love/hate thing with me and Megatron. I love to hate him.
@President_Starscream5 жыл бұрын
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 all we really have to do is give them juuuust enough freedom to let them take care of their own maintenance and they will. After all they already have the necessary infrastructure in place for such things. Aside from that we'll just use them till they're used up. No point wasting energy killing them when we can work them to death. Though we will have to do something about earth's militaries. Humans are surprisingly good at making weapons.
@DinoLoverGaming10 ай бұрын
I like the concept of a Transformer adopting a human orphan, it sounds very inspiring and wholesome. Plus the adoption process could make for a very entertaining subplot.
@CarmenCards5 жыл бұрын
I think the best human in transformers lore is Chris Mcfeely
@OtakuUnitedStudio5 жыл бұрын
Seconded! He's in Animated, isn't he?
@SarettaMcQueen7834 жыл бұрын
My favourite human character will always be Alexis from Armada series. Sensitive and strong at the same time. The bond between her and Starscream is something special and unique. I love them!
@danc61675 жыл бұрын
My 3 year-old and I watch The Basics every Saturday together. He was very excited to see the rescue bots (bo-bots as he calls them) and their friends, the Burns family
@koolmckool70395 жыл бұрын
Some of my favorite Transformers characters. Sari Sumdac (half and half, so it counts) William Fowler (BANANAFISH) Kade Burns (Pipizza)
@plantainsame20492 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how is it that Cody's blonde Cade is a ginger which is rare and Danny and Graham have two different shades of freaking brunette
@koolmckool70392 жыл бұрын
@@plantainsame2049 Genetics are weird man. My cousin has blue eyes, despite almost everyone else having brown eyes.
@plantainsame20492 жыл бұрын
@@koolmckool7039 they are
@arjunthemadlad5 ай бұрын
I genuinely wonder if Kade loves pizza more than this own job as a firefighter.
@stephen26245 жыл бұрын
This is gonna sound like pure fanfiction but I'd love to see a future Transformers series with the Autobots fighting to free the human race from a Decepticon-dominated Earth with previous human characters brought back with new positions and motivations. The Witwickies being the main humans aiding the Autobots and keeping them hidden, Rad, Carlos and Alexis as leaders of a Decepticon cult (Rad being the founder, Carlos being the preacher and Alexis being the stabber in Starscream's name), Kicker not only being the grandson of Dr. Arkeville but also piloting Nemesis Prime while fueled on Dark Energon with Misha as the only surviving witness and prisoner who escaped Kicker's wrath with the young human-Cybertronian Sari Sumdac as her adopted daughter.
@reptilitronousprime92135 жыл бұрын
That sounds awesome!
@TamiyaRyouko5 жыл бұрын
That could be given the right written and tools incredible
@Gaia_BentosZX55 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a certain story in transformers fiction, which introduces furmanism... But I can't put my finger on it, can I do less?
@smashley46615 жыл бұрын
That sounds awesome!
@neptuneplaneptune33675 жыл бұрын
That....realy sounds like Fanfiction. Also i dont think you ca integrate all Karakters so easeley in ONE Universe unless we say Shokvave foused all the Universes into one.
@jefferyquick32805 жыл бұрын
Best Humans: Coby, Bud, Lori, Colonel Franklin, Professor Suzuki, Sari, Jack, Miko, Lieutenant Fowler, Raf, & Charlie.
@chey60735 жыл бұрын
Jeffery Quick But Jack is so boring!
@jefferyquick32805 жыл бұрын
@@chey6073 I'd rather have boring Jack than Irritating Kicker.
@ShahPhilLeotardo5 жыл бұрын
The Transformers Prime brats were the worst part of the show especially Miko she’s worse than Daniel from G1
@lukebaldock46725 жыл бұрын
Sari is worse
@vonfaustien39575 жыл бұрын
Sari has no place on a best human list for obvious reasons
@carktheshark5 жыл бұрын
I actually like humans in Transformers if they have a purpose or push the story forward. That's why Sari, and the TFP humans (except for Jack) I actually like and why I like that Cyberverse doesn't have any humans. Don't add them if they don't have a purpose!
@carktheshark5 жыл бұрын
@023 Studios you are right about it being feeling a bit empty! I wish they had continued those little human/transformers interactions (the news reports, the funeral). It's so weird that the Transformers are fighting all over Earth, and yet no humans are around. It's very strange
@carktheshark5 жыл бұрын
@023 Studios idk I really liked it! I liked seeing human and transformers interactions evolve because if aliens really invaded then that's exactly what we would do. I'm also part of the younger generation, so instead of being cringey, it's more funny to me.
@carktheshark5 жыл бұрын
@023 Studios he probably would have been at Starscream funeral, vlogging
@rainbowblade28155 жыл бұрын
Carrie Thomas Makes sense good point👍
@nil9815 жыл бұрын
I actually like Jack Darby, Miko I like also, raf is my least favorite of the prime series though he did have some good moments. Though nobody tops agent Fowler as a human character!
@Slith3rdLegion5 жыл бұрын
No humans. Then whose going to celebrate Decepticon Day every year!?!
@JoleneBlake5 жыл бұрын
I've always said that humans are NEEDED for proper Transformers stories; they give a point of reference and contrast to the Cybertronians. Without the dumb fleshies, the Transformers become basically just big, metal humans themselves. (In other words: Budiansky was right.)
@chataclysm21125 жыл бұрын
I'm inclined to agree but there are cases where the story worked incredibly well without any humans and where their inclusion would have been detrimental, like MTMTE for instance
@TheBigExclusive5 жыл бұрын
Beast Wars was just fine without humans (not counting that one episode).
@twistedgaming91855 жыл бұрын
@023 Studios Unless they're other aliens.
@Biorythym5 жыл бұрын
“Just big metal humans”....I fail to see the problem.Besides 90% of all TF human characters are awful. That’s not hyperbole, how many of the characters in the above vid would be considered a “tragic loss” if they got squished by a big metal foot?
@carbootstudios24595 жыл бұрын
You sure, Jolene?
@xRaiofSunshine5 жыл бұрын
I’ve grown to like Miko a lot, and Sari is always best girl :]
@JeffreyPiatt5 жыл бұрын
Sari grew up to be Princess Twilight Sparkle. I want a MLP Equestria Girls Transformers crossover Toy line badly. Twilight Sparkle driving Bumblebee. A great casting gag.
@ShahPhilLeotardo5 жыл бұрын
Miko is horrible she’s the only human character that is as annoying as G1 Daniel
@lukebaldock46725 жыл бұрын
I like miko better than sari
@Leobreaker18125 жыл бұрын
RaiOfSunshine I agree Miko took the Prime series over when she was placed in the the wreckers and fought using the battle suit, she fought them using wrestling moves.
@zachbahamutson54774 жыл бұрын
Jack Darby's always been my personal favorite human character mostly because one obvious is literally saying you're worthy to be a prime then you got to be up there technically Jack is the first organic Prime. I mean I absolutely adore him he's a good human character that I actually can relate to a lot having grown up without my own father while also being in high school at the time of prime airing. Also his relationship with Arcee is by far my most favorite Transformer human interaction. Also he was ballsy enough to blow Arachne as a ship. You got to get the good credit you also willingly spared Megatron but I mean honestly I don't blame him as ratchet said about him he was a lot like Optimus when Optimus was still Orion Pax.
@haveacalmheart3010 Жыл бұрын
Alright, I'm gonna say it: My personal favorite parts in any transformers series is the interactions between Cybertronians and humans. I love it, it can range from wholesome to pretty thought provoking. I especially love when human culture rubs off on the Cybertronians (OP playing sports in G1, Bee playing video games with Raph in Prime, The Autobot team watching TV in Animated (again Bee playing video games with Sari) Bee & Sideswipe appreciating music in RID 2015, cybertronians using human sayings, the rescue bots watching rented movies, etc.) The dynamic a human and a transformer can share, I believe, can really be something special and interesting.
@ihhh174 Жыл бұрын
No wonder why you're dad left
@emilystewart61755 жыл бұрын
Awwwh, ending it on that picture from Rescue Bots was a nice touch
@twistedgaming91855 жыл бұрын
It pretty much ended the cartoon on a good note... until Rescue Bots Academy happened.
@Alesiopdv5 жыл бұрын
Hey rescue bots academy is pretty good...though I do miss the burns, we only get cody and in small doses...
@diegos73375 жыл бұрын
My favorite humans where Cody and brother and Lori, from Cybertron/Galaxy Force, also the ones in Transformers Prime, Jack and his band, and of course the original ones from the G1 Continuity the Witwickys!
@SpiderHam5 жыл бұрын
This has given me a new appreciation for humans in Transformers stories!
@CourtneyCoulson4 жыл бұрын
I don't get why humans are so controversial in this franchise, I think the issue is bad characters, doesn't matter what species it is. Put it this way, do you want to watch Wheelie or Hayley Steinfeld? Transformers Prime hit the perfect balance, bot-centric stories were just as compelling as the ones where they bonded with their humans. It was all well written and all the characters were great. I can't believe I like Miko so much, I would adopt her.
@pierceplaysstudios2453 жыл бұрын
You like miko?!
@havenspringer3 жыл бұрын
What if the cybertronians and humans were parallel species, beneath human flesh and blood vs cybertronian flesh and energon,
@husariuspl1173 жыл бұрын
@@pierceplaysstudios245 Miko wasn't bad honestly I can see why some might have been annoyed by her at times but I personally didn't minded her much
@pierceplaysstudios2453 жыл бұрын
@@husariuspl117 Mike constantly put the other two humans in danger and just to get "cool pics". Also she NEVER listened to the bots and always fallowed, and than she being there slowed the mission down for the bots because they had protect her instead of going on the offensive
@husariuspl1173 жыл бұрын
@@pierceplaysstudios245 constantly? She did a couple of times but not often and she learned that and while she's still not fully careful she did ended up helping How many times did she slowed down the mission? It happened around the beginning sure but again...not much often
@robinblue8205 жыл бұрын
Personally, i like human characters. As long as they are written well, the human/transformer relations are some of my favorite parts. Maybe that’s why rescue bots is actually one of my favorite transformers shows
@plantainsame20492 жыл бұрын
it is surprisingly good considering it's one of the younger target audience shows of a franchise that's literally made to sell us hunks of practice giving all those things it is a f****** great show and yes this is mostly bias leave me alone this is my childhood
@silverwizardess79214 жыл бұрын
I grew up with the Armada crew so, no matter how annoying, Rad, Carlos, and Alexis will always have a special place in my heart. But I really like the human characters in Animated and Prime as well.
@christopherbravo1813 Жыл бұрын
my brother and I grew up on Transformers Cybertron. Bud was our favorite, hands-down.
@transformer03 Жыл бұрын
The issue with Rad, Carlos, and Alexis is that they took up too much screen time. It makes sense for kids/preteens to be somewhat annoying, but it was too much. Alexis is kind of forgiven because she had that one episode with Starscream, which redeemed her in the eyes of a lot of fans.
@christopherbravo1813 Жыл бұрын
@@transformer03 you would not like Masterforce then.
@peterdanior45385 жыл бұрын
I really have no problem with Humans, some of my best friends are Human, but I don't want them to be the focus of the Transformers Universe. That was one of my problems with the Bayverse, too much Human stuff.
@myriadmediamusings5 жыл бұрын
If the Human stuff is tied in with the Transformers stuff it’s fine IMO. This is why Charlie’s story succeeded decently and Sam’s story failed so hard.
@peterdanior45385 жыл бұрын
@@myriadmediamusings Exactly, Sam's entire relationship with his parents, them thinking he was masturbating, his mom getting high, had nothing to do with the Transformers and was a complete waste of time.
@peterdanior45385 жыл бұрын
@023 Studios Yes, but I'm watching a movie about Giant Alien Robots, not about an Average American Teenager
@twistedgaming91855 жыл бұрын
@@peterdanior4538 Who wants to "mate with the female" that badly.
@peterdanior45385 жыл бұрын
@@twistedgaming9185 I actually like that bit as it does involve the Transformers interacting with the humans. And honestly it would have been funnier hearing an autobot talking about Sam rebooting his CPU or performing a maintenance check on his drive shaft, than his mom talking about it
@TamiyaRyouko5 жыл бұрын
0:40 and even romancing them Tf Shippers: very poor choice of words
@TheDONing14 жыл бұрын
Fred Perry: Reality can be whatever I want.
@Khronik_4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDONing1 ⚠️ HORNY DETECTED ⚠️
@TheDONing14 жыл бұрын
@@Khronik_ The only way you'd know what I'm talking about is if YOU read it too!
@leo11lim5 жыл бұрын
Rescue bot taught me why human are worth saving in the aligned verse.
@chey60735 жыл бұрын
Leo Lim The Burns are top tier human characters
@koolmckool70395 жыл бұрын
@@chey6073 Kade is my favorite Burns. Every line he has is great.
@trika915 жыл бұрын
Kool McKool I like Kade and Heatwave’s dynamic of always hazing each other, but the best human/bot pairing is Dani and Blades. Blades is afraid of flying and is nervous in general, but Dani helps encourage him and shows that he can do more then he thinks he can. Their relationship is the first I’ve seen a bot heavily rely so much on a human before.
@koolmckool70395 жыл бұрын
@@trika91 Agreed there. Kade may be the best Rescue Bots human, but Dani and Blades are the best pairing.
@zachbahamutson54774 жыл бұрын
@@trika91 I got to say the best human cybertronian interaction has got to be Jack Darby and Arcee, I mean Jack basically was the one who was able to get Arcee to let go of Vengeance and other things he never told her to stop being angry at arachnia no no no don't let it consume your life basically. I also liked how Jack basically became her Rock emotionally well also being one of the only humans willing to stand up and tell him to go screw himself. Well played Jack will played.
@GeorgeCowsert Жыл бұрын
One concept I wish got some love is the idea of a human scientist looking to "upgrade" humanity with transformer tech, believing that the merging of organic and technical life would make humanity a suitable replacement for Cybertronians. Whether it be working with the Decepticons to do sketchy research, to convincing the Autobots to find ways to cybernetically enhance their human allies, all that matters is making humanity capable of surpassing the Transformers.
@simonlin9192 Жыл бұрын
I do not think humans are capable of surpassing Cybertronians or any other advanced species in the galaxy humans are too weak even in real life humanity is weak and will never change
@Rex101112 жыл бұрын
The relationship between Armada Starscream and the humans and the role they played in his arc, Alexis especially, is my personal favourite human involvement in the franchise. Really made them feel important
@alexlemonds28385 жыл бұрын
Powerglide:"Hey, bubbles." *turns head.* Seaspray:"Yeah?" *shows photo of Astoria.* Powerglide:"Human girlfriend. You?" *shows photo of Alana.* Seaspray:"Alien mermaid chick." *they high five.* Powerglide:"Right on, right on." :P
As a human I naturally have a soft spot for the human characters. I have favorites like The Witwiky family, Jack, and Sari(she counts right?) But my real favorites are the humans that don't turn into complete dicks and turn on the Autobots when it's the Decepticons that orchestrated the flattening of our cities. I'd like to believe we're not that dumb.
@christopherbravo1813 Жыл бұрын
I *wish* I could believe we weren't that dumb.
@infiniteoctopaw5 жыл бұрын
I think rescue bots and Transformers animated did humans perfectly. The Burns family is perfectly complementary to the team. Ditto Sari for TFA.
@Noaher2565 жыл бұрын
Agent Fowler is the greatest thing that has ever been conceived by man
@castleguard_of_xbox3607 ай бұрын
*deep inhale* "PRIIIMMMEEE!*
@thewebsurfer29192 жыл бұрын
I really like Sari Somdak, and wish she would pop up in more TF media.
@Silver-Kaitou2 жыл бұрын
The Unicron Trilogy, Animated, and Prime host some of my favorite human characters to date. Miko and Bulkhead's relationship was just... so damn good.
@umbraeclipse85525 жыл бұрын
Honestly, only one time did a human hit me in the McFeelys, and that was Sari when she found out the truth.
@96megatron5 жыл бұрын
I thought the Live-Action Humans, along with Aligned was pretty interesting. Rescue Bots Humans are probably the most well-written. I think a Burns family working with the Live-Action Rescue Bots in Spin-off TV Series Crime/Natural Disasters/Search and Rescue would be interesting. With maybe the Stunticons as a guest villain. Or other Decepticons. With some Autobots guest-starring to help out. Ratchet, Wheeljack(causes some Natural Disasters). Seymour Simmons, Sam, Mikaela, Lennox, Epps, Santos, General Morshower, Alexis, Dutch, Jack, Miko, Raf Danny Clay(RID 2015), Cade Yeager, Joshua Joyce, Dylan Gould, Harold Attinger, General Morshower, Agent Burns are some of my favorite human characters.
@botaniccal4 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely on Bob Budiansky's side. One aspect of the live-action movies I'm a huge fan of is that humans aren't helpless weaklings that need Autobot protection. Humans, from the first movie, were shown to be more than capable by themselves (in the first movie, for instance, Scorponok gets gunned down and nearly obliterated before being forced to flee, and Megatron gets knocked down and damaged by missiles. A lot of this comes to a head in the fourth movie, where humans begin making their own transformers and killing old ones like Ratchet). Useful humans is a trope I rarely see in sci-fi, because humans are always portrayed as primitive bugs for evil alien invaders to squash
@Yamanosei953 жыл бұрын
I actually liked the human villains in Transformers Animated, a decent way to do world building and to show not all of the villains need to be Cybertronians or aliens in general
@plantainsame20492 жыл бұрын
actually they do all need to be aliens cuz you know everything's an alien I'm an alien You're an Alien it's all just a matter of perspective yes I know I'm being a smart-ass
@fightingmedialounge5192 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't say smart plantain.
@luigiboi4244 Жыл бұрын
I agree, and I also love that Headmaster is just a play on the old Headmasters gimmick.
@leorblumenthal52395 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite stories involving a human in Transformers was the mobster who found a damaged Megatron in the original run of the G1 comic, issue #13. I don't remember the mobster's name, but after Megatron comes to his senses, the human impressed Megatron enough for the Decepticon leader to leave him alive (albeit under arrest) rather than squash him for the human's effrontery in using Megatron in his bank heists. A very well written story by Bob Budiansky. My next favorite story would probably be Verity Carlo's appearances and character growth in the IDW comics.
@Blu_Moon_VA5 жыл бұрын
Optimus: "We autobots are programed to protect the source of life. For us that means the All Spark. Yet, you organics are also life so we must protect you as well. But how is it that you create these new, smaller organics?" Sari: *Whispers* Optimus: *O_O*
@johnmooney58294 жыл бұрын
For some strange reason, I'm seeing Raf and Jack passing Biology/Anatomy notebooks off to Rachet.
@CapnShades26 күн бұрын
The idea that Sari knows that kind of thing at eight years old has always been highly disturbing to me Which is why I prefer to imagine she said something totally incorrect but equally objectionable specifically to a giant robot alien.
@jayaldridge95205 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Basics on the Witwicky. Love Generation 1 cartoon.
@MichaelAlexKawa5 жыл бұрын
This is probably my favorite episode of The Basics, as it showcases just how essential humans are to the many series of The Transformers. I don't mind series like those of the Beast Era, or ones that take place exclusively on Cybertron that lack humans, but ones that purposely avoid using them, which in reality has just been Cyberverse so far (even though RID 2015 had a major lack of them), is what irks me. And the reason I feel these new series are doing this is not for story reasons, but because of all the fans that bitch about humans. For me I enjoy the human element and sometimes gets bored with Rock'em Sock'em Cybertron stories, which is what the Machinima series were, and I fear the upcoming Netflix series will be. At least Cyberverse is fun enough and story driven to be forgiven for the lack of flesh bags, and Beast Wars is a masterpiece compared to most Transformers series. Also as for your question about favorite humans, Lori would be one, so would Sari. I always had a soft spot for Astoria since that is my favorite G1 episode. And since I always defend a "certain series", it was cool that you included The Kiss Players in this video.
@mrheroprimes5 жыл бұрын
I think the stigma for the dislike of human characters in Transformers was caused by the bayverse, which put way too much focus on the humans and not on the Transformers, and the human weapons work against the Transformers when they shouldn't work at all. but I can also see the other side of the argument given that the internet pretty much render the need for the Autobots have a human guide obsolete because all they need to do is hack in the world wide web and learn everything they need to know about humans and earth in a matter of seconds.
@ls_rus46664 жыл бұрын
Lack of equal focus on both transformers and humans and humans sometimes being extremly anoying gave this idea a bad name
@MichaelAlexKawa4 жыл бұрын
First off who made you my master, you can't tell me what to do. Second I will always defend art, even if it is not to my liking. With that said, yes the Kiss Players are a bit "cringe worthy", and even I find some of it questionable to say the least. But it is not anymore "perverted" , or "pedophilic" than most movies and shows made by Disney or Nickelodeon, which never get called out for the same crime. And don't presume I am a "creep" just because I was impressed that the Kiss Players were not omitted from the video.....they are a part of Transformers history, just like the Bay movies, which are just as bad, just saying. And whom ever reported the reply the first time I made it, you got some nerve. I was insulted by the above comment and I am just defending myself.
@MichaelAlexKawa4 жыл бұрын
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 All told I had to step back and really think about how I feel about your comment and the subject in general. In a way I see what you are saying and I actually agree it made no sense to make a series like the Kiss Players. I really don't know what TAKARA/TOMY was thinking when they greenlit the idea. The sad fact is it kind of ruined the Binaltech Asterisk line, which I am more of a fan of to be honest. I also hate the fact that the only official figure of T-AI from RID (2001) is the one designed by Yuki Ohshima, the creator of the Kiss Players. Even though there is a lot worse out there than the Kiss Players, I do agree it has no place within Transformers, and in a way I think it has made some fans more sensitive to any type of "fan service" in Transformers series. I guess what I mean when I say "defend" is not really defending the content (even though I don't dislike it as much as others), but I guess I just hate when others make even speaking about it as taboo within the TF fan community, and if someone even mentions it they are some kind of creeper. Love it or hate it, the Kiss Players is a part of the history of this series we all love...maybe a dark part and a WTF were they thinking part, but still a part of the whole that is The Transformers.
@cyberprime93555 жыл бұрын
In all honesty, In-universe humans, as long as they are well-written, have a good background, and even relatability to some degree, humans can be welcome into the brand. Kicker is not one of those people though. I'd say Sari Sumdac and Agent Fowler are good examples of what well written humans act like. I can't get one scene out of my head from TF Prime: Fowler: *Honks horn excessively* Come on, Move it! (Or something like that). *Car pulls off to the side* Optimus: Was that really necessary?
5 жыл бұрын
OK I'm gonna make this unmistakable,crsytal clear,100%,without the shadow of a doubt, THUNDERCRACKER!!!!
@myriadmediamusings5 жыл бұрын
Thundercracker’s my favorite Decepticon so I also hope he’ll be Basic’d soon.
@Spartan-Primer5 жыл бұрын
The other two got Basics. It's only a matter of time.
@abdullahimran53375 жыл бұрын
This video made me realize the importance of human characters in transformers so they are slightly more tolerable for me now (except the good ones I'm alright with them)
@tylerherr42882 жыл бұрын
imo theres a good balance between too much human and too little rescue bots and prime was perfect im my eyes
@twistedgaming91855 жыл бұрын
As long as it's set on Earth and disguising themselves as vehicles, human interaction is inevitable. Who wants basics on Cliffjumper? (he's getting a new toy in Earthrise)
@gezi0752 Жыл бұрын
I hate when humans are too big of a role, but it is somewhat of a necessity if transformers are on earth. I just don’t want to the humans to be the main characters. That was definitely the worst part of the live action movies, is that even some of the most prominent autobots like ironhide only had 13 minutes of screen time in the movies, and the decepticons usually had almost no character or personality.
@erikbjelke44113 жыл бұрын
Humans in Transformers are like humans in Godzilla films. If the characters are good and their story is strong and meshes well with that of the Transformers, they add depth and character and stakes. If those things are not true, they're something boring you fast forward through to get to the part you really want to see.
@dekaw91385 жыл бұрын
Hi I’m Chris McFeely and I wanna tell you about The Humans.
@skybyte5 жыл бұрын
Where is my Raoul rep? Two bangin episodes in G1, the most wholesome and natural transformer-human partnership I've ever seen. And he's the only human I've seen yet who always gets himself into and OUT of trouble. *after getting shot with a rivet gun* "That's what I call a riveting experience!" - tracks "I don't know why I hang out with you, man." - raoul "Foo on this jive! My main machine's in trouble!" How is that not incredible?
@Erik-fn7kj5 жыл бұрын
OH I TOTALLY AGREE
@chaoticneutral79765 жыл бұрын
Bring back Raoul!
@AngelD.JimenezАй бұрын
Can we take a moment and appreciate that the human protagonist in this franchise were amazingly brave even in their scariest moments? Third movie Sam wasn’t scared at all and took down star scream with a grapple hook and bomb, Cade grabbed a alian gun and started popping heads off decepticons, Miko in a power suit and beating the crap out of the decepticons, Raff having a hacking duel with SoundWave, Jack going to cybertron alone, and Lenox just standing in front of Megatron for a exchange. I know I missed a lot of humans, but come on, they seen some shit, and they done some shit!
@kakarotimus_15 жыл бұрын
But were there any humans offlined by a cosmically powered Starscream?
@ShahPhilLeotardo5 жыл бұрын
I wished Daniel, Carly & Spike were offlined by cosmically powered Starscream.
@rayn0577 Жыл бұрын
I find the human characters more enjoyable when they actually help to advance the plot. Jack, Miko, and Raph started out as just kids who got caught up with the Autobots by accident, but in various Prime episodes they were able to lend invaluable aid to the bots. Episodes like Scrapheap, Crisscross, Deadlock, Orion Pax Part 3, and Hurt let the kids really prove they could hold their own among the giant alien robots.
@infiniteoctopaw5 жыл бұрын
Transformers fans: All human character are the worst!!!1!11!! Me: * Laughs in Rescue Bots *
@KRBrickBot5 жыл бұрын
Human interactions with the Transformers certainly helped the stories stand out from the many similar transforming robot franchises that have humans be the creator and master of all the bots. Yet the latter formula is still prevalent for the kiddies. Looking at you, Korea originals!
@originaluddite5 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with this taking more of a thematic than a chronological journey into the topic - that would have taken some planning. A request for a future (and similarly diverse) topic - non-human organic aliens.
@shadowdramon015 жыл бұрын
4:21: Who’s also the daughter of Flint and Lady Jaye from G.I. Joe
@parkercomley81265 жыл бұрын
The G1 Witwicky's, Sumdac's, Prime companions and Burns families are best.
@kirbyfanprime5 жыл бұрын
Due to the rather disjointed way I ended up in the fandom, the human that left the hardest impression with me early on was Circuit Breaker. She was the first human character that could fight on an even playing field with the Cybertronians, even with some solo kills to her record, but her hatred led her to lash out at both sides indiscriminately. Being confronted by Unicron nearly left her catatonic, but she pushed through with pure hate and stunned him long enough for the Autobots and Decepticons to present a unified front and go on the offensive. I struggle to think of any other human that was that directly influencal to the conflict and made that much of an impact.
@RingoLoadagain5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Chris, I really had no desire to see a video about humans in the Transformers universe, but you actually managed to make it a fun and interesting watch, as with all your videos.
@videogollumer Жыл бұрын
10:11 On the cover for the Star Trek crossover, the three armed orange alien in a yellow shirt is Lieutenant Arex. He served as stand-in for Ensign Chekhov in Star Trek: The Animated Series, which aired a few years after the Original Series ended.
@schmidington4 жыл бұрын
I like Melissa Fairborne's role in the comic series, from opposing them at first to becoming a military liaison and leading the co-op missions. In that regard I also enjoyed Fowler in the Prime series. He was important in maintaining the transformers remain out of the government's sights thus keeping the military at arms length.
@AnonEyeMouse2 жыл бұрын
My favourite human interaction had to be Buster Witwicki going toe to toe with Shockwave in a mech suit.
@cooler16795 жыл бұрын
I love the friendship the Autobots have with the human friends they make, mainly the human children there friends with. I want the human friends of the Autobots back.
@lynear37562 жыл бұрын
I love the title so much, it's like we're being told the basics of ourselves
@TheGenuineDWNUT5 жыл бұрын
My favourite humans would have to be the kids, Fowler and June Darby in Transformers Prime along with Silas and MECH. This series is soooooooo good!
@cubeddoubled15435 жыл бұрын
Miko kinda annoyed me though
@Jetblast012 жыл бұрын
It's always great when the human characters actually contribute something to the plot. Even if it's small as being a native point of contact on the planet to help teach them about how things work or go as far as Jan who saved the planet from Deathsaurus' giant space fortress.
@Thunderwing885 жыл бұрын
I always flashback to 80’s Saturday morning when I watch one of your The Basics. Usually on the day it’s published, Saturday morning!
@marcusmukhtar49443 жыл бұрын
Dude the cut to all of the clips of people in the beginning was awesome and a little nostalgic.
@QGvon5 жыл бұрын
i grunted when i saw this week's topic, mostly because the movies were ruined by the humans, but I watched knowing you would tell the honest truth, and I was not disappointed. The Transformers WERE merely visual effects. As always, you were right about everything else. This is what I love about your insightful and thorough content. You have made the only enjoyable Human topic video on Transformers.
@magnuslauglo53565 жыл бұрын
Your knowledge is staggering and inspiring as always. I love how you effortlessly mix footage of human characters from various version of the TF mythos.
@Kurotitan71255 жыл бұрын
Transformers Cybertron, Animated, and Transformers Prime Humans are the superior human characters, you cannot change my mind
@chrisschirripa59174 жыл бұрын
TeamDinosauria21 Miko.
@kennethsatria66072 жыл бұрын
In terms of relationships I love Jack and Arcee the most, they play off one another so well in both serious and casual moments. And while Arcee is usually the responsible one she also has a fun and competative side like when she went along with beating Jack's bully in a race.
@Canoby5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to say, I'm a little sad you didn't title this one "The Basics on Puny Flesh Creatures"
@RexBlazer15 жыл бұрын
I've no problem with the human characters at all. My only gripe is with how some of them are written, like with how IDW's humans were seemingly antagonistic every time they appeared (minus the FEW allies the Autobots had). Truth be told, before I stopped shipping, the one ship I supported was TFP's Jack Darby with Arcee.
@RogueTwo5 жыл бұрын
In all fairness, the antagonistic attitude was a direct result of the Decepticon invasion of Earth during All Hail Megatron while the Autobot were out of commission. A conflict that cost over billion human lives and nearly brought civilisation to it's knees. It would have been weird IMHO if that HADN'T left humankind with a very negative view of the Transformers.
@derekcolbeeuy89425 жыл бұрын
There's even lewd stuff about the ship
@lizerdspherex5 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of artists that would agree :)
@nil9815 жыл бұрын
Shipping cybertronians with humans is the only thing worse than a cardinal sin that I can think of. Its absolute HERESY!
@RexBlazer15 жыл бұрын
Patrick Milewski depends on who you ask.
@misterpeterman5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of crossovers, Ghosts of Cybertron has been a lot of fun. Peter Venkman making threats to the ghost of Starscream is a riot.
@legionbeast4 жыл бұрын
I'm personally fond of Jack Darby from TF: Prime. Despite being yanked into battle by Arcee, he hit the ground running and realized how much bigger it all was than anything he was doing. He integrated more smoothly with the autobots than either miko who treated it as a game, or raf who... is just kinda there. His bond with Arcee was also exceedingly deep, going farther than just being friends as Jack was the only one of Arcee's partners who didn't get slaughtered, and in fact, was able to outwit Arachnid and destroyed her ship and also finally let Arcee open her heart back up to allow herself to be more than a stoic "robot".
@Lukusprime4 жыл бұрын
Let it be known that on November 9th, 2019, Chris McFeely had to mention Kiss Players and show Kiss Player figurines in a serious presentation about human interaction with Transformers. They say that he is still recovering from the mental scarring to this day.
@TamaTamatadpole5 жыл бұрын
Based on premise I think the human characters in Rescue bots are probably the best fitting and some of the more unique partners in Transformers
@Soyelsistema30002 жыл бұрын
9:38 THE BEST VILLIAN HUMAN
@cromanticheer2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I really loved the breakdown & comparison of the role humans take in each series. Sari Sumdac is probably my favorite Transformers human. I found the way her character & story evolved to be genuinely compelling. She starts the show as an isolated rich kid and spends the series triumphing through some rather remarkable trauma to become an equal to the rest of Team Prime. Her emotional moments in the episode "Transwarped" legit make me cry. It's great. Y'all should watch Animated, if only for Sari.
@TheStriderSyd5 жыл бұрын
I always felt sorry for the "Kelly" character in TF:RiD series. (seemingly to be X-Brawn's unknowing owner) She always seemed to get caught up in whatever TF conflict was going on. Even when deliberately trying to avoid it, she was often "blown up" ala'TeamRocket in many episodes.
@Tiggeralt5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the fan reaction to human characters is more a response to the "kid sidekick" role many of them play than anything else.