Transforming A John Deere 4020

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[@daviddill4314]

Good to see you jump right in and "Get er done". Always pay attention to the old timers as their knowledge is not replaceable. Be thankful you have someone like him to ask questions. Keep up the good videos and looking forward the next one.

[@lordchaa1598]

Great advice, I lost my grandfather last year. The loss was far greater then just losing a beloved family member. We also lost his encyclopedia like knowledge on all his equipment and systems he set up to minimize manual labor. I’m grateful for everything he taught me over the years and I can only hope I can live up to his expectations and keep his dream alive and well.

[@deepsubmergence9357]

4020 was one of the best, versatile tractors that ever rolled off of the assembly line.

[@heshy14]

The 4020 revolutionized the brand. Many new features made it a classic. I would love one

[@RalphBellairs]

Always nice to see Pepper supervising the renovation work!😸

[@jmit5650]

The 4020 with a roll bar, fenders and a canopy is one sharp tractor. I used to run a 4020 pulling a five bottom plow and a 3020 pulling a four bottom plow. Showing my age. Great video.

[@wayner806]

We had a 4020 LP and it was 3rd gear for a 4 bottom and not many acres in a day. It wasn’t near as much HP as the diesels but dad is still using it today.

[@jmit5650]

We were plowing sandy sandy river bottom ground. Not hard pulling at all.

[@wayner806]

@@jmit5650 Ahh! Thanks for the update. I remember running that tractor and breaking plow on 1/2 mile rounds and at the end of the day it felt like you could spit across what you turned under that day! Laura and Grant’s 4020 sounded good when it started. Lots of memories of home for me. Have a good day.

[@jmit5650]

Good memories.

[@brentkelsay3439]

Dad had a 1966 Ford 4000 pulling 3-14s, a good old tractor. But my uncle had a 3020 with a 4 bottom plow and an AM radio bolted to the fender. The hot setup for a teenage boy!

[@barryc2253]

Back in the mid 1960’s when I was about 10 I started helping my next door neighbor who had a small farm in Massachusetts. He had a 1929 Ford tractor that had steel wheels on the rear. Once or twice a year we would take out the tractor which had a 36 inch saw blade on the front and cut dry, split firewood into either 12 inch or 16 inch sections. Watching you and Grant working on old equipment brings back fond memories.

[@donwilliams3626]

Laura, you are a real inspiration to other young people. Leading by example, "this ratchet paid my way through college". Just think once upon a time this tractor was the " WORKHORSE of its fields!

[@jvin248]

Really like this series of bringing old equipment back to work. When all the stores are out of DEF you'll still be able to get work done! And no banker chasing your loan payments (that's the best part).

[@Rob89139]

I really love watching old equipment being brought back to life. Hope to see you doing more like this

[@lindanelson8400]

I agree 👍 the Welkers are pulling stuff out of the tree line all the time, turning it into something useful. The recent one is a Ford diesel truck made out of four trucks into one. Pretty resourceful.

[@KeithSizemore]

Same

[@MB-ld4sr]

I think it’s a waste of time but she has the money to waste

[@LostButMakingGoodTime]

A lifetime JD fan… the 4020 may be my favorite. Especially with the full fenders with the quad headlights underneath. Takes me right to my childhood. If I had the means to have a collectible tractor, it would be tough to pick just one, but the 4020 would be at the top of the list. I would live for parades! 😁

[@mikecliff2367]

Laura. There is still a special John Deere program that will sell you the rollbar for that Tractor at cost. Would be in the neighborhood of less than $1500. It comes as a complete kit to be a folding rollbar for that Tractor. It is a safety program and you get just the rollbar through the Deere dealer. I got one and put it on my 1976 Deere 2040.

[@marvinschabacker4207]

I put one on my 4020. Definitely feel safer.

[@mikecliff2367]

There is also a special program that pays a percentage for the ROPS. It is called ROPS 4 You ... The official name is: National ROPS Rebate Program and it is also part of "National Tractor Safety Coalition".

[@robmorgan9337]

Laura, impressed with your determination and desire to learn. Keep up the good work. Just a quick tip….you’ll get more lifting capacity for your box blade if you install the lift cylinder with the rod (shaft) end pointing up. This is due to the differences in the surface area of the piston caused by the area of the shaft side being smaller than the other side. Example (simplified): if hydraulic pressure = 1000 psi; cylinder diameter = 2 inches; shaft diameter = 1 inch. The 2 inch diameter end will exert approximately 3140 pounds of force when 1000 psi hydraulic is applied. The 1 inch shaft end will exert approximately 790 pounds of force when 1000 psi is applied. That may make a difference in the operation of the box blade. God bless and stay safe!

[@ikesrepair7565]

But what motion is created by those forces? Higher force extends the shaft (lifts the box blade) and lower force retracts the shaft (lowers the box blade). The shaft being up or down on the box blade makes no difference in operation.

[@larrycase2762]

In the 60s, my grandfather had a JD4010 and a 4020. In the summer when I was visiting the farm, I would help, very little, to attach an 2 row cotton picker to the 4020. That was really something special as before that it was hand picked. Good memories.

[@richbowser9500]

great idea scrapping the cab and loader, fenders will make it a perfect light duty tractor on the farm. i remember when those tractors were new and everybody was amazed at how big they were , times change.

[@rweisele]

Laura, there were 8,645 gas synchro-shifts made, 9,240 gas powershifts made, of course by far the most 4020s were diesel tractors. Good workhorses, and they took a beating, and stood up!

[@rmsatt1608]

We had a 4020 Propane tractor most of my life. If you don't know there is a grease zerk on the throwout bearing be sure to grease it because it's a pain to split the tractor just to replace that. The other weak spot are load shaft seals.

[@mikemullay5622]

When you can it would be a good idea to retrofit a rollbar onto that old 4020. Once you get the fenders you can mount some lights on the old girl as well.

[@jerrybauman6927]

I spent many many hours on a JD 4020 in the late 60's working for my uncle in North Dakota. What good memories. No cab but had a fender mounted am radio. I'm hard of hearing in my right ear from leaning over the speaker listening over the drone of the diesel, but would not change that for anything. Loved that time in my life.

[@230e4]

The 4020 is a popular tractor, ran a few Diesel 4020's over the years but never a gas powered one. The box scraper and mower look real nice. Nice work! 👍

[@wayner806]

I grew up driving a 4020 LP. The tank was at very front and stuck at the top of the hood.

[@230e4]

@@wayner806 That's cool. My neighbor has a 1066 International LP with the raised hood like that.

[@wayner806]

@@230e4 Well that’s cool too! I never saw a 1066 LP. Thanks

[@rodlappin6147]

Grew up driving a 4020 Diesel, you will start finding 3rd or 5th as your go to gear pretty soon. Can't wait to see it all cleaned up and put to work.

[@SpatialDragon]

I remember when my Dad put the first cab on one of our tractors, it came off a new Ford Bronco, it was 1968. We were so happy to have some cover, Dad spent 18 hours days during plowing and planting then harvest. We had 500 acres and our tractors were all small like that one. Lot of childhood memories there.

[@martys5435]

I spent many an hour on one of those 4020's when I was a kid. Talk about bringing back good memories!! ❤️

[@ge3186]

Growing up our neighbor had a 4020 tricycle front, always loved that old thing as a kid

[@robertschauer376]

The 4020 looks so much better w/o the cab and the loader. Great Job!

[@orangecrush315]

Great call on removing that loader! The tractor is beautiful! Such a classic! 💚💛 Can't wait to see what y'all do with it from here!

[@WilliamCooper2005]

Love this! I don’t have any tractors made in the last 30 years, mainly because I can’t afford them but I also like the character and the ease of working on the old tractors.

[@ebla83]

I grew up with a 3020. Those old Deeres are fantastic machines. You will be happy with it!

[@corona123ify]

Laura and Grant what a great post, and that 4020 is a beauty. Watching you all working on that tractor brought back memories of growing up on a dairy farm in Wis. and all the fixing we had to do on tractors and other equipment. At one time my dad and I were working on tractor, I was under the holding a wrench while my dad was trying to loosen a bolt and a shard of metal fell into my eye. To make a long story short I ended up with a lot of pain and eye an infection that took a couple of months to resolve and heal. Looking like a Pirate in high school was not cool! My point is that you, or anyone working on a farm must always be safety conscious from thinking about safety risks in that tasks at hand. Think about loose clothing, safety glasses, gloves and footwear. As a big from the beginning of Laura Farms I have encouraged many to subscribe.

[@corona123ify]

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[@michaelwilliams7481]

You now have the tractor down to the bare bones. I am so amazed what you three can do. Love from Mike.

[@user-rs8hs1wu7p]

I've got a friend that still uses his 4020's and a 5020 to this day. His dad purchased them new back in the 60"s. These tractors have been overhauled a couple of times and still use them daily

[@dcsblessedbees]

I drove one of those as a kid on the farm. Great to see ya fixing it up.

[@patrick-mccabe]

Grew up on WI farm (live AZ now), and even when had other big big green toys, had a 4020 and 3010 that became farm utility tractors. Both rebuilt a number of times. Lots of fond memories, from raking hay to moving wagons on farm yard. Thought you'd likely remove the aftermarket cab and loader. We did have a JD loader on our 4020 for period of time, eventually removing it when had larger tractor with loader. Will enjoy watching the 4020 be restored. Hope you go full distance of engine, hydraulics, paint, and JD sign badge.

[@shawnschoppert8540]

Clean look, no cab or loader, that tractor looks really good!

[@collincolston8443]

This 4020 brings back a lot of old memories. When I was 18 & 19 I worked on a big ranch just outside my hometown. I put many a mile on this tractor mowing pastures.

[@jls1045]

Great buy on the 4020. It cleaned up nice! I drove a 4020 diesel (no cab) back in the 60's. Loved that tractor! Watching this video brought back a lot of memories. Thanks for another great video.😊❤

[@user-cm5iy9dq8h]

Loving watching you make old equipment workable again. I have been watching and following you guys for some time now and I really enjoy your videos. I am 61 years old but I grew up on a small family farm in western New York and spent many many summer days looking at the hood of a 4010 diesel and winters also as we used it for snow plowing. Watching you with this 4020 brings back so many memories. Keep up the great work. *Just a small note to Laura, Your Hand is Not a Hammer!!! Please use one.

[@joho9708]

Green Acres is the place to be. Farm livin' is the life for me.

[@user-po7bp7oz1k]

Laura the tractor looks so much better with out the cab.

[@fitch8363]

That tractor needs a roll bar. The farmer on the farm next to ours was killed when his Farmall H rolled over and killed him in 1962. Almost lost another neighbor when his tractor slipped on a muddy bank, rolled and crushed his pelvis about 5 years after that..

[@marioescanuelas8167]

Oh man! I wanted to see it all cleaned up! Next time.

[@josephcooksley3219]

Funny i bounced around on a 4020 but with out a 3 point linkage ... in Canada ... used to stand on its hinds legs when pulling A Pull Type Combine ... lol ... Great Machines lol😂😂😂😮

[@1lilfarm]

You had the scraper on a forklift and neither of you thought to just lower the forklift to raise the wheels up to attach the hydraulic cylinder? I know, you just needed to show off your muscles! Tractor looks a lot better now. Open station will definitely be quieter on you than that metal cab. 👍👍👍

[@Foomba]

That was so satisfying. After that wash it even smells new.

[@PatrickGilmore-yf6hx]

I live in Yankton SD, I can tell you that we have a club for tractors like that 4020. They are growing every year. Pretty awesome to see those old tractors still running and in great shape,

[@dalejohnson2936]

What is the name of the club? Facebook page etc?

[@vanessalivengood3223]

I was raised on a farm in N. Central Texas. And I was raised like young man. I'm the oldest and then my little sister. We could do anything there was to be done on a good busy farm. We raised cantaloupes, watermelons, cattle, 2 big gardens and much more. Liked your video. Stay safe. We had all John Deere tractors. We had a 4020 that my daddy bought brand new around 1974 with a cab. I loved that tractor. I spent a many a many of hrs on it. And we never had roll bars on any of our other tractor. Just use common sense and you'll be safe.

[@K.J.Ray421]

I grew up in the 90's on a small beef farm that is sadly no longer operating. Every haying season, we would borrow my great uncle Clarence's 4020 with the Year-A-Round cab on it. Instead of a loader, it only had a plow blade we would remove every summer. Because of the Syncro Shift, that worked better to bale hay with than our Case 830. I miss living on a farm, can't wait to retire and find some land in the middle of nowhere.

[@1963Bonde]

Always fun and interesting. Laura in tight bell bottoms, ain't half bad either ❤😊

[@brianclapp3259]

If you squint, every tool is Snap-On .. lol. I will agree that that ratchet from HF is almost indestructible and never fails to get the job done. Definitely enjoy the older equipment restoration and usage. Y'all are doing it right

[@hull99]

Wow, I use to drive my uncles 4020 tractor on his farm back in the early 70's. It was used to pull the hay bale cart on his farm. Brings back lot of good memories!

[@MikeAdermann]

Another great video... One suggestion, be sure to check the axle bearings where that baler twine was wrapped. That dirt and twine can cause them to go bad, and it is better to fix it now than later when they fail. PS give Pepper a scratch behind her ears for me. 😀

[@lordchaa1598]

This brings me inspiration to get my grandfathers old 4020 back and running again. Thank you 🙏

[@chriswoolley8967]

The ole tractor runs pretty good. You will be amazed how much better it will run once you rebuild the carb and upgrade/replace some ignition parts. Those old straight cylinder motors will run forever and pull hard.

[@sixthmanU]

My grandpa owned a 4020 for years and it broke his heart when he sold it after he retired from farming. After you removed the cab and loader, just brought back a lot of memories. Looking forward to following your adventure in cleaning and fixing this tractor up. Does it get a name???

[@bigredgreg1]

A name? How about “The 4020”? Simple, easy to remember, and respectful! 😂

[@bradmccormick358]

That tractor brings back a lot of memories. Looks like all that's left is a step and fenders...and maybe a ROPS. Thanks for the videos.

[@MrCrazycook8]

The John Deere 4020 was an agricultural tractor model made by John Deere from 1964 to 1972. The 4020 is significant for its great popularity; over 184,000 units were built. It was the most popular tractor of its time

[@norm-nas]

True but, only about 8000 gas were built

[@joediamond8210]

I worry the 4020 is considered old.They were manufactured, as mentioned betweem 1964 and 1972,,,,,exactly all the years I spent in college. ..... joe

[@bendugas8632]

First time seeing your channel, very interesting watched three videos in a row. From a retired fisherman to watching farm machinery and grain being sold thank you for sharing.

[@jersincl]

Geez Louise.....Laura you got monster strength holding that up while he set the bolt !

[@ld5714]

Good morning Sunshine! You and Grant are very lucky to have access to that older gentleman and his extensive knowledge and experience. He will be invaluable to you and you are fortunate that he will be able to pass along much some of his knowledge to the next generation as that knowledge and experience is truly a national treasure. You made great progress on the tractor and I look forward to following the progress in upcoming vids. Have a great week and you guys be safe. Larry, Cental Valley, Ca.

[@mustangdbest220]

Love the videos, and the 4K quality. If you have the newer iPhones, you can enable HDR, which would look amazing

[@kroadie3936]

Working on these projects is just so rewarding,Laura farms and team.

[@TheNCGardener]

In the crazy world we now live in, this channel shows us what life should be about. So relaxing!

[@keenanmcclure1038]

We have a 4020 that my Grandfather bought new. It is now kept inside and used occasionally. These are great tractors and still very useful. We have some friends that have these and still use them as well. Thank you for the great content!

[@jehdwebster9152]

I bought a 1965 4020D ten years ago I put a 148JD loader I put hearing pads on the trabs and engine, also heater on coolant . But when it got down to -16°F the fuel jelled with hay to feed a gas tractor would be nice. Love following your channel from NWMO.

[@contreemanjones917]

I'M 63 I DROVE A 4020 MANY HOURS IN THE 70'S FARMING COTTON AND SOYBEANS IN THE MISSOURI BOOTHEEL. THANKS FOR THE TRIP DOWN MEMORY ROAD SUBBING GOD BLESS

[@TomRowan777]

Yay Laura! What a fun challenging project! Looks like all this old girl needs is som tlc! I enjoy how y'all think things through out loud and invite us onlookers to understand the mechanics and the decisions you make based on common sense, safety concerns, and recycling materials into deer stands. This video was very well done and it's fun to follow along with you all. About 6 of my buddies have your hoodies and the new guy at work has reported back that his wife and 12 year old daughter are now hooked on Laura Farms! Thank you all for sharing your wonderful life with us. We ❤ You!

[@michaelratliff7775]

Definitely one of my favorite Tractors! 👍

[@lylestout4133]

Grew up on a 3010. Recognize every inch. Very impressive that no fingernails were broken. When putting a cylinder on the box scraper, LOWER the box, don't manhandle the axle. Your back will thank you 20 years from now.

[@stevevanvalkenburg5449]

When I was in high school, the John Deere 4020 and IH 806 were "king of the hill", the biggest and best tractors we used. Loved driving them. Now, they are just a small chore tractor compared to what we use every day.

[@rhwall]

The 4020 was the first tractor I drove on my grandparents farm in NE Montana. I spent many hours summer fallowing in that non air conditioned cab, good memories.

[@davidknudson6382]

There is something cathartic about cleaning old equipment and tools.

[@darkiee69]

Laura, if you're not going to use the cab, get a roll bar for it. That way you're a little safer if it should roll.

[@glennspreeman1634]

Those cabs were worse than nothing! Rollgard are good idea.

[@CandC_Farms]

There should be a ROPS for it. The cab I have on my 4320 (1972 model, similar cab) has a ROPS system in it.

[@lynwessel2471]

At one time John Deere had a 70% rebate for 10 & 20 series roll bars for tractors that didn't have one. You can find several aftermarket brands as well.

[@stephenbrown571]

Ok safety sallies put your helmets back on.

[@Captain-Max]

Pretty sure that cab isn't ROPS rated. Better it be gone.

[@crit62]

It is amazing I have any hearing after running our 4020 as kid. The Cab was so insanely loud. We also had a water cooler on top that would dump water on you every time you hit a big bump on a hill or terrace. Ah memories...

[@scottfristoe6468]

I worked with my uncle's 1969 4020 for many summers in eastern Nebraska when I was a teenager. Great little tractor. Would be great if you could find a vintage AM radio for yours. Ours had one in a big metal box that sat on the fender. Keep up the good work!

[@billries7204]

I bought my 69 4020 about 25yrs ago at auction in January in ohio. Drove it home about 40 mile trip. Was i ever glad it had one of those cabs on it. Like yours the cab was the first thing to come off when made it home. Good luck with the old girl !!

[@robcates2383]

Exactly what I was thinking , Grant! Cab would make cool addition to a deer stand!!!!

[@cornflake73]

My father-in-law sold his four team horses in 1939 for a John Deere B with iron wheels and a two-bottom plow. He paid $900.00 for them both. He told me how that had improved his operation and that he didn't miss those old hay burners. The next year he cut off those iron wheels and welded rims on for rubber tires which made it much better to ride on. He had that tractor till he passed away. She ran like a million then too. He was quite the farmer; he could wear the same dungarees all week and never get any grease or dirt on them. He could get more done in a day than any kid could in a week. Laura: I love your video content and I always admire your attentiveness to the situation. you ask before making moves that involve others, it is called safe operations. It does make me lament when I see those lovely smooth hands with freshly done pretty nails get into the grease and grime. Wear some gloves young lady, for me please. I also note that the hair is nicely brushed and groomed in the beginning but halfway through the hair is in a tight bun to go along with those hands. You are not afraid to go in there and do your share, which is admirable. You are a team player. I bet hubby is proud of you too.

[@bobelston7024]

Hey Laura and Grant!! Love your channel!! Laura I have missed your “BYE” at the end of your last two videos. Hope you bring it back. BYE😊

[@brucewatkins7163]

So nice to see how beautifully "handsome" this tractor is without the cab and loader!!!

[@vincentriley8953]

The original battery box was mounted underneath the platform that you stand on and there is a step kit you can buy that will make it easier to get on and off the tractor

[@glennspreeman1634]

What a cobbled up mounting arrangement on that loader and cab! Being in there was really dangerous! Bet both your dad's could be good resources.

[@norm-nas]

that cab was probably a Hiniker and it was just as it should be, it's not going to jump up and bite you. the loader was adapted from another tractor and it worked, not dangerous either from the seat. Those tractors are too light to use a heavy loader anyways.

[@NewtownGraphics]

I spent many hours on a 4020 back in the late seventies. That and the Ford 8600 were my favorites. Both very reliable and powerful. Brings back memories.

[@paulfeise3972]

The 2 pieces of equipment you bought and restored I think you got a heck of a deal on and the tractor I think will be a good thing too. Good work

[@annmurphy5507]

For the Off Road Games: Once you wrap your brain around how those big tires work, you won’t need to white knuckle the steering wheel. Also, understanding how the torque of the engine works will help you. Plus, Rory WILL want you to succeed in HIS creations!!! You go girl!!

[@johnnye747]

Hi Laura, maybe I missed it but as a small detail, you might want to pull scraper hubs off and at least repack and adjust wheel bearings. Even better to go to auto parts store and get new bearings, races and seals 🦭. Probably less than $30. If it were mine and I didn’t do that, a wheel would fall off in the ditch in the mud the very first time I used it. Don’t ask me how I know 🤣.

[@v1rotait23]

I was smiling away watching this episode of you 3 pulling things apart and scraping off the gunk. I was dying slowly waiting for the degreaser foam to be sprayed all over the tractor before washing off with HP water. I hope you're able to get it all cleaned up ready for a new coat of JD paint. Looking forward to some quality TLC on this old girl. As for the younger one here, who is not named Pepper, she's just fabulous as she puts her hands to anything mechanical. Laura, you're a farm woman of class and high quality, who is not afraid of getting a bit mucky. ❤

[@TomRowan777]

Okay. Here's a solution to Laura's music-free conumdrum: Step 1: Laura plays her favorite tunes on her earphone and belts out some songs and dances. Step 2: Laura tells us what song she appears to be lip sinking and dancing to. Step 3: Laura's adoring audience, (us,) replay the tune separately in sinc with Laura's jam session! Step 4: We are dancing with Laura as she spins us thru her bean fields killing us softly with her songs! The 21st century offers really bizarre challenges to overcome! 😮😂❤

[@altonjames1677]

I agree with you about the chain hoist, it can be a very useful tool.

[@Pinion512]

Fantastic tractors. Those old 40 and 30 series were pretty popular for a while. We never ran them, but it seems like I saw them everywhere coming up.

[@maxime3343]

Great video as usual, thanks Laura & Grant ❤

[@dstoneburner]

My family had two 4020s as the main tractors and farmed about 400 acres in northern IN!

[@frritter8253]

In the late 1960s, the 4020 (and its 4010 older brother,) were the most popular, stylish, powerful, and functional tractors... JD set a whole new plateau for the competition. This lucky one found a wonderful home.

[@keithpfrang2114]

Best addition we ever made to our 1972 4020 was the roll bar with a canopy. I’m sure you can find a roll bar but, finding a canopy will be tough. Finding one that’s not bent is another matter.

[@BoilerRoomRadio]

Can't wait to see the deer stand Grant!!

[@Jerry0153A]

You can torch the baler twine to speed up removal. What a fun project!

[@walterchapin33]

Please put ROPS on that tractor.

[@BradHolkesvig]

I was 9 years old in the winter of 1962/1963 when my step-Dad bought a new 4010. I got to try drive it twice that summer but after getting it stuck twice, I had to wait until the 1964 season to drive it in the fields cultivating and plowing. He bought another 4010 that year in the fall so we had two tractors each pulling 5 bottom 3 point hitch plows. The 4020's started selling in the winter of 64/65 I believe.

[@richardpedersen9189]

Love your videos, Laura! Follow thru on the 4020 project 👍

[@blakegibson2654]

The standard 4020 equipment (3 point anyway was a Riper 3 or 4, Bottom plow. Offset disk, leveling disk, field cultivator. 2 or 4 tow lister & or bedder. & a 4 or 6 tow Lilliston Cultivator, scrape blade, bush hog. Planter, & two grains wagons, gravity. That’s was the average guys ensemble with a 4020. Interesting stuff on the used equipment your posting

[@larrybolhuis1049]

You will be HAPPY to have that cab off. As a young man I spent many hundreds of hours in a 4010D with an aftermarket cab and the noise is just captured inside that thing. Being in the open air is (most of the time 🙂) much preferred!!

[@ronniehahn1885]

Sorry folks, been busy with the primaries. What memories! I am a retired truck driver now, but when I was a teenager I was living in the piedmont of NC working on a very large dairy farm. I pulled a chuckwagon with a JD 4040 narrow tire to feed the cattle. Best time of my life working on dairy farms. I was running bobcats when your daddies were young men. Did you get your Pete to stop over heating?

[@leesorensen3077]

Years ago I bought a set of 8-point sockets for when I find old implements that have square nuts. Don't use them often, but boy are they handy.