Transparent Collage Papers With Napkins

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Catherine Rains

Catherine Rains

Жыл бұрын

Learn to make transparent collage papers with napkins and tissue that look like expensive rice paper.
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@tomasinaconti4140
@tomasinaconti4140 5 ай бұрын
I love creating these too! Freezer paper. Reynolds’s freezer paper taped (painters tape) to your table so it doesn’t roll up. It’s reusable and the bottom of the tissue/napkin stays smooth and you can create texture.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 5 ай бұрын
Such a fabulous idea!
@donnacarraway9182
@donnacarraway9182 2 ай бұрын
Great technique! I really appreciate that you are sensitive to and talk about the importance of copyright rules!! Yay for you!!💕
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 2 ай бұрын
Glad that you enjoyed the video. And I totally agree that addressing copyright is very important when you are incorporating other people's artwork into yours!
@jentrujillo9110
@jentrujillo9110 11 ай бұрын
Cat you can use the liners in cereal boxes they work great and it peels off seamlessly!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
What a fabulous idea. I believe that is one of the papers I used to create these papers on. I agree, they work great. I robbed all my cereal boxes to create these!
@TodaysSpecialMinis
@TodaysSpecialMinis 3 күн бұрын
I did this with a design I drew and colored on a piece of napkin a long time ago. It was something I had intended to use as a journal cover, but never got around to making it. The thing is - I found that napkin and the glue does get brittle over time. My cover was chipped in a few places, sadly. I could still use it - it would be a little distressed or I'll have to just bite the bullet and make it all over again. Thanks for sharing your makes. I never thought about a napkin being copyrighted. Interesting. But I also don't think people are just going around selling just glued napkins as is - people usually incorporate them into some kind of altered art. I actually don't have printed napkins, I wish I had designs like the ones you have - they're lovely. But I can't seem to find pretty designs like I see lots of people on here using. The ones from Dollar Tree aren't worth buying and I don't wanna pay a lot of money for napkins that I'm just gonna use in crafts. Sigh.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience with making these. Have you tried using gloss medium instead of glue? I'm thinking that might hold up better over time.
@elizabethlessner9512
@elizabethlessner9512 5 ай бұрын
Experimenting with napkins and different papers brought me to some of the ideas that you have demonstrated. You have clarified what works and what doesn't which really helps. I always wondered what to do with the layer of the napkin that had a slight imprinting on it. I figured that it probably wouldn't show up if I tried to save it like I do with the napkins. I took this a bit further though after having problems with some special papers that I bought and that were so fragile that they tore way too easily. So I put glue on the back of these papers to give them more strength and it did help. Some needed more reinforcement so I used tracing paper and glued the paper onto it. That worked much better. So then I even took another step and just spread glue on the tissue paper...some that I had that was just plain one color and some that had print. I even painted some colors onto the plain tissue/tracing paper. I have a folder for them so that they are ready for me to use. I love the translucency of the look of just the plain tracing paper and the glue. The plain colored tissue paper also is awesome with just glue on it. All in all.....for mixed media...how could any of this be wrong?
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 5 ай бұрын
I love all the experimenting you did to make this technique work even better. Thanks so much for sharing it all with us!
@debcox7839
@debcox7839 11 ай бұрын
Hi Catherine, I discovered your you tube channel just yesterday and am enjoying your content very much. I just signed up for Collage Kickstart! Im so glad you mentioned it in your video. I look forward to playing together!!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Deb for the kind words about my channel, and for joining me for COLLAGE KICKSTART. I would love to see what you create as a result. You can really use any of the papers that I demo on YT for the final collage project as long as you use the same paint colors to create them. Enjoy!
@dthomp06
@dthomp06 11 ай бұрын
Love this idea!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@fattitude2001
@fattitude2001 11 ай бұрын
I used rolls of clear contact paper as my base. I cut it into manageable size pieces then taped them plastic-side up (paper-backing-side down) to pieces of cardboard boxes to keep them from rolling up. You never pull the backing off the contact paper. You’re just gluing onto and peeling off of the plastic side. Freezer paper would work well, too, just be sure to put your glue on the shiny side of the paper, not the plain paper side. :) ❤
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
What a brilliant version of this technique. Thanks so very much for sharing.
@debracomeau8927
@debracomeau8927 11 ай бұрын
Great tutorial Catherine! More lovely collage papers! Thanks!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😊💗
@karenjoy9997
@karenjoy9997 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your time, and teaching your chemistry adventures. I learn from your vids all the time. I’m recovering from dental surgery, so I will probably binge on you. Lol. 🦋🐝😅
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 8 ай бұрын
Hope that you are healing fast and easy. I'm honored to be part of your healing process!
@jeanieferretti4203
@jeanieferretti4203 25 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤ Great ideas ❤
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 23 күн бұрын
So glad! Thank you so much for watching!
@junkjournalsvideos1649
@junkjournalsvideos1649 11 ай бұрын
I have always just used plain old plastic, works 100%. Thick sturdy plastic used for packaging, covering school books, even those thin ones used for packaged fish. Thank you for these lovely ideas.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
I have since found other plastics that work well too. Like plastic file folders. Thanks for watching so many of my videos!
@ludmilaschicchi8278
@ludmilaschicchi8278 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for all the fantastic info. I just found you. I subscribed at once. You are a great artist and instructor. 😊
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 8 күн бұрын
You are wonderful! Thank you so much!
@suebowen9876
@suebowen9876 11 ай бұрын
Been doing the exact same thing today !!!!!! I use cellophane ( the sort that flowers are wrapped in ) as my base and find it works well as long as you let it completely dry before peeling off. A top tip if you are having difficulty separating napkin layers use a small piece of sellotape to the back of the napkin and gently pull to separate layers .
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
Amazing the timing! Great tip Sue.
@marcellaruledge663
@marcellaruledge663 10 ай бұрын
you never mentioned using freezer paper - I use that all the time and it works great. I also do this with fabric - makes great book covers as well as collage papers but it's a bit thicker with fabric. fine for book covers - iPad covers, etc.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 10 ай бұрын
I agree, freezer paper works great as well! Love the idea of doing this technique with fabric, brilliant!
@user-sz9wo3zx4g
@user-sz9wo3zx4g 4 ай бұрын
I saw another collage artist use baking parchment paper on which she placed her paper to be glued. Worked beautifully!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 3 ай бұрын
Yes that works too!
@Cyrilmc222004
@Cyrilmc222004 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Catherine I really really enjoyed watching you create these beautiful and wonderful pieces. They are so wonderful for all collage and card making too. Please stay safe and well too xxxx Mags ❤❤❤❤
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 6 ай бұрын
So glad that you enjoyed this art demo, and will enjoy adding these papers to your artwork.
@youtubeexercise7894
@youtubeexercise7894 11 ай бұрын
Hi Catherine, just found you yesterday and I love your ideas!!!!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Welcome!
@77clgreen
@77clgreen 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your great techniques. I always have parchment paper!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 10 ай бұрын
You are so welcome! 😊 Thanks for watching
@helendilley420
@helendilley420 7 ай бұрын
That's another great paper technique to add to the collage papers from the fab 5 day quick start course . Thank you.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 7 ай бұрын
Yes this one would be great to your collage paper stash!
@53jpr
@53jpr 3 ай бұрын
This worked well on file folders. They peeled up beautifully.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 3 ай бұрын
Amazing! So glad to hear it!
@samjackson7270
@samjackson7270 11 ай бұрын
Hi Catherine, thanks for sharing your tips. I have signed up for your CK. 😊
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
Thank YOU for watching the video. I'm thrilled that you'll be joining me for COLLAGE KICKSTART!
@youtubechannel9190
@youtubechannel9190 11 ай бұрын
Yes, I have taken collage kickstart and can't wait to take more of your classes. That five day class made me a permanent fan! It was the first time I didn't feel anxiety when trying to compose collages. Your organization of the class and the process gave me the confidence that I could do it. Thank you. Could you share where you got the text napkins please? Really like them. Can't wait to try this process. You make everything look like so much fun and your positive attitude is contagious. Please keep teaching us!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
Your loving feedback about COLLAGE KICKSTART made my day! I'm thrilled that this class showed you that you have the skill to create "good" collages. I would love to see them. As for the napkins, I bought them a long time ago at TJMaxx. If I find them again online, I'll be sure to let you know!
@catherinepreston-andrews2361
@catherinepreston-andrews2361 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting thank you
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@jkatz58
@jkatz58 11 ай бұрын
I am loving you videos, such wonderful and fun ideas. Can't wait to try them. I was wondering if you could turn your camera to "landscape" for the demo as it would make the video view larger and closer for those of us with aging vision. If you are filming for Instagram you probably can't change it but I thought I would ask. Keep the wonderful videos coming no matter the view orientation. Thanks for sharing your creativity!!!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
You guessed this correctly as these were originally filmed for Instagram Lives last year, which of course are all vertical. I just moved my art demos to KZbin, so they will all be horizontal moving forward. However I will have 40 from last year that are being loaded onto KZbin over the next several weeks. I very much appreciate you choosing to view all my videos, both vertical and horizontal🤪😌❤️
@rachellee.9389
@rachellee.9389 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for advising your viewers about stealing artwork. As the mother of a professional artist, I am more than aware of plagiarism (plain speaking, it is STEALING) by various Chinese companies such as Ali Express, Temu, and their ilk. The government and companies do nothing to stop this outright violation of an artist's rights/talents. Sure, American-made products cost more but remember that buyers are paying the artists and American workers and other 'middle-men' for their work. I'm on SS only, and if I can afford to pay the extra money, so can everybody else. (And no one should use the excuse that they can't find American-made goods because I have found several websites online that specialize in them.)
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you. Artists should be compensated for their work. With using napkins and other similar items for art, artists just need to make printed materials into a unique new piece of art.
@itsjudystube
@itsjudystube 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately copyright law is different in each different country which is why nothing can be done. The general opinion seems to be that once you put a design out on the Internet, it is in the public realm. One suggestion I read was to post an image in low resolution which isn’t suitable for printing off screen. In general you can get a pretty good idea of a piece of work without it being in high resolution. Or put a watermark on it. Using pictures from magazines could also be classed as breach of copyright especially some of the wonderful photography in National Geographic. However these pictures undergo such transformations that they are barely recognisable at the end. I’m happier to use altered images as inspiration for my own work, rather than using as is.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 3 ай бұрын
@@itsjudystube I agree copyright is very tricky and hard to enforce. However, images on the internet on definitely not in the public realm. The key to using copyrighted images is to change them enough so they appear as a unique and different piece of work, enough so that the original artist could barely recognize or claim it as their art.
@rachellee.9389
@rachellee.9389 3 ай бұрын
@@itsjudystube Although excuses for stealing are made by thieves all the time, it still doesn't make up for the loss of time, effort, talent, income, or recognition by the artist. Anyone who believes it is no better than the thieves themselves.
@PaigeNicoleKomar
@PaigeNicoleKomar 3 ай бұрын
I saw Royce Hunt Bell so this with diamond glaze, resin, Rust-Oleum clear matte spray, etc and she had amazing results too! I wanted to find out if I could just do mod podge or polycrylic so that's how I happened upon your video. Thank you so much for the info! I'm using freezer paper (waxy on one side and paper like on the other which I think it's like butcher paper) or the plastic wrapping for like the IOD transfer books and both work well... (We are using her 18# decopauge tissue paper!)
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 3 ай бұрын
Fascinating! I'll have to check out how Royce does this. Thanks so much for sharing what you have discovered.
@jeanninethames2523
@jeanninethames2523 6 күн бұрын
Such a fun thing to do. Just subscribed…
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 4 сағат бұрын
Thank you for subscribing! So happy to have you here 😊💖
@allisonjames2923
@allisonjames2923 7 ай бұрын
I use resealable bags as the surface to glue things onto that I want to peel off later. I cut them so they’re just one layer & the inside provides a great surface for making glued papers like this. Just watch out for bags that have an area to write on as your papers will stick to that, but otherwise they peel off really easily once dry.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 7 ай бұрын
What a fabulous and cost effective solution. Thanks so much for sharing!
@avanellehansen4525
@avanellehansen4525 11 ай бұрын
I use the inside of plastic dogfood and potting soil bags as splat mats. They are non stick for gluing too.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
BRILLIANT idea! What a great way to recycle and give a new purpose for art.
@mayahayward8589
@mayahayward8589 Ай бұрын
I love all your ideas! Your videos are easy to follow and your voice so calming 🙂. Please could you tell me what the little snippet of music at the start of all your videos is... I love that too!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist Ай бұрын
You are so kind to share such loving feedback! Unforunately I don't know what music I used as I licensed it a long time ago, and then forgot where I got it!!
@lisaholtz1176
@lisaholtz1176 11 ай бұрын
Freezer paper or pallet paper probably will work too. I’m going to give it a try.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
Yes those will work as the base to create these papers on.
@lisaholtz1176
@lisaholtz1176 11 ай бұрын
Just wondering where can I find tea bag paper? Is that just small empty bags that you buy and open up?
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
@@lisaholtz1176 amzn.to/3qC8tiM Follow this link to buy it!
@annbrockman3086
@annbrockman3086 7 ай бұрын
Freezer paper works very well....just make sure you use shiny side up!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 7 ай бұрын
Yes, this does work well. Thanks for the suggestion!
@puresunrays80
@puresunrays80 4 ай бұрын
I'm going to try adding glitter. 😁
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 4 ай бұрын
Excellent idea! I've added all types of things, including glitter, with amazing results. ENJOY!
@myrapatinart
@myrapatinart 7 ай бұрын
Have you tried the shiny side of freezer paper? That's what I do my watercolor batiks on that involves lots of melted parrafin. Then my batiks just pull off so I can then iron off all that wax.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 7 ай бұрын
That is a fabulous idea!
@bjingmaine
@bjingmaine 11 ай бұрын
I was faced with a choice of shower curtain or shower curtain liner at the Dollar Store. Chose the clear liner but then I was sure it was too thin… hooray, works perfectly!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
I also use a shower curtain liner to dry my papers. Now have 3 for when I go super crazy making papers, which is often!
@deborahshearon5855
@deborahshearon5855 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this, shower curtain liner will be my work surface😊
@jacquiericard5190
@jacquiericard5190 7 ай бұрын
You can use wax paper or parchment paper. It pulls off beautifully!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 7 ай бұрын
I agree those also work very well.
@maryjowilliamson1276
@maryjowilliamson1276 20 күн бұрын
I wish this was demonstrated on full screen!🥺
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 18 күн бұрын
Me too! It was originally filmed for Instagram and then placed on YT. Most of my videos are horizonatal.
@cathydale104
@cathydale104 4 ай бұрын
Hi Catherine, I was just wondering how archival this would be. Would the fact that you would be adhering it to your artwork with an acrylic medium prevent the white glue from yellowing? Great video. Definitely going to try it.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 4 ай бұрын
Good question. If you want this process to be archival, use medium instead of glue. Hope you have fun with this one!
@missdeesaccount
@missdeesaccount 8 ай бұрын
Can you use Parchment paper? To apply the glue to the napkin I mean. Thanks Catherine ❤love your videos!! ❤😊
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 8 ай бұрын
Yes, I believe parchment paper would work.
@Sparkleberry7
@Sparkleberry7 7 ай бұрын
if you go around your edges with the tip of your brush you will seal it & can get off made paper .....hearts
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 7 ай бұрын
Fabulous idea, thanks so much for sharing!
@PaigeNicoleKomar
@PaigeNicoleKomar 3 ай бұрын
Also, if you lay the napkin down face down, you get more of the Matte side on your good side and glossier on the back. We are using her 18# decopauge tissue paper also... Hope this helps someone ❤
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing the tip!
@tonybounsall214
@tonybounsall214 3 ай бұрын
PVA or acrylic medium will not stick the polyethylene or polypropolyne. So white garbage bags, construction plastic sheeting, freezer paper ( shiny side only) , dry cleaning bags stretched over a piece of matte board. It is reusable and in expensive.😊
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 3 ай бұрын
All excellent suggestions! Thanks for sharing.
@Merletth
@Merletth 28 күн бұрын
Try the bag out of a cereal box. IT IS WAX COATED and works well
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 26 күн бұрын
Yes, that is a great alternative!
@jcramatte
@jcramatte Ай бұрын
Bags from a cereal box work well, too.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist Ай бұрын
Yes they absolutely do!
@yasminneder
@yasminneder Ай бұрын
I think that using the glue directly in the collage, would work perfect. Why do it before? The napking would get trasparent anyway.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist Ай бұрын
Because usually I don't want to commit by gluing directly on the collage. I like to lay my potential papers all around a collage to see what potentially would work. Gluing directly on is also a good option, I just love lots of options so usually don't.
@susansuval5129
@susansuval5129 11 ай бұрын
What is the advantage of coating these things with the clue rather than just using them as they are?
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
Good question! It gives you the option of moving these all around to try out where you want them before gluing them down permanently. This way you can try out many different translucent collage elements and see what fits into your design best.
@Nicolesms72
@Nicolesms72 11 ай бұрын
Would this work with gel medium instead of glue?
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
Yes in part two of this demo I actually switched to fluid medium because it is archival.
@LuceMazerolle-Richard
@LuceMazerolle-Richard 3 ай бұрын
Have you ever tried using freezer paper? I think it might work.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 3 ай бұрын
Yes it should.
@McJulieO
@McJulieO 11 ай бұрын
To salvage the 25 waxed paper pieces, I wonder if you could apply heat & THEN peel it off??.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
I could do that, however its much easier to just make new ones on a surface that works!
@kanamichelle7404
@kanamichelle7404 8 ай бұрын
Freezer paper works too.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 8 ай бұрын
You are right!
@sherryleggett1612
@sherryleggett1612 Ай бұрын
Is there a difference in copyright between making your own copy on paper of someone’s design on China which is definitely a violation of copyright and using the actual item that someone was selling and that we bought? We aren’t copying, we bought that design on the napkin and used the exact item?
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist Ай бұрын
Good question. You can use the napkin you bought on an artwork, however if you sell that art it could be considered copy right violation unless you significantly change the look of the napkin used so it has a different meaning and/or appearance than the original.
@srost6855
@srost6855 29 күн бұрын
I don't think that's quite right. Whether you sell it or not, using it as is is using someone else's design if it remains visually the same or similar. It's not about the sale, per se. It would be worth defining that a little more/better for folks.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 28 күн бұрын
@@srost6855 Copyright with collage when using other artists artwork as part of the collage is tricky and up for many interpretations. However, the guidelines I have always used is that it is ok to use art from other sources as long as you significantly change the meaning, basically transforming it into a totally new expression, maybe to the point where no one could identify the original artist. Also if you use artwork created before something like 1927, it is usually copyright free, although there are exceptions if the family of the artist still owns the copyright.
@dinabaughman8731
@dinabaughman8731 2 ай бұрын
Can you tear it after?
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist Ай бұрын
Yes, these can be torn, and then glued to a collage.
@andreaslightangels
@andreaslightangels 5 ай бұрын
Copyright law: just ptutting the writing under the tulips chamgrs the original enough to circumvent cpoyright law. Ethics dictates altering original enough that original is not discernible. I am not a copyrights lawyer, but worked at a patent and copyrights office for many years.😊
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 5 ай бұрын
That is exactly what I understand and follow regarding copyright of found papers. Thanks for confirming what I have read, and have been practicing.
@sue8237
@sue8237 11 ай бұрын
Plastic bags - trash or kitchen, work, too!
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
Great tip!
@renig5059
@renig5059 11 ай бұрын
Great papers…who did you mentioned you watched doing this⁉️🤪
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
I even listened to this video again to see who I could have mentioned and still couldn't figure that out!
@renig5059
@renig5059 11 ай бұрын
@@catrains.artist at 22:28 someone called Nikki Rowe but not sure how u spell it maybe u can send me the link… much appreciated 🥰
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
@@renig5059 Ahhh Nikki! Yes you are spelling it correctly. Search for her on IG by that name, but her username is very complicated, although her name should lead you to her. She was the inspiration behind this demo!
@bconsilio3764
@bconsilio3764 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think that is accurate. I think you can sell napkin art just like buying fabric that you purchased and make something with it and sell it.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 4 ай бұрын
You can sell anything, including art made with napkins. The issue is around copyright. If the artist who designed the napkin discovers that art was sold with their art on it, they could sue. Its unlikely this would happen, however it is copyright infringement unless you alter the look of the napkin so that the original artist could not tell its theirs. With this technique, that is possible, make it totally unique and yours.
@sandramurphy7933
@sandramurphy7933 4 ай бұрын
Mary Engelbreit designs fabric. You can buy and resell it as fabric. If you make something with the fabric and sell it, expect a cease and desist letter from her attorneys. Small scale, you can likely get away with it. If you advertise it for sale, no. You're using someone else's work for profit.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 4 ай бұрын
​@@sandramurphy7933 Exactly!
@TrueLoveX1027
@TrueLoveX1027 11 ай бұрын
❤❤❤ this! Thanks SO much for all of your time, effort and supplies that went into working this truly beautiful process out. Can’t wait to to start working on this myself! 🩷
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 11 ай бұрын
You are so welcome! Thank you for those kind words, I am so happy you're enjoying he videos, have fun!
@juliastanbury9245
@juliastanbury9245 5 ай бұрын
The bags inside of breakfast cereal packets are brilliant for non stick art surfaces for glueing and peeling. I cut them open into a sheet. I'm in the UK so hopefully they're made of the same material in the USA. It's worth a try.
@catrains.artist
@catrains.artist 5 ай бұрын
I agree that the inside of cereal bags work great for this paper. They are made the same in the USA.
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