TWO HOUR VOICE LESSON (MUST SEE)

[@8flyhawk]

Hi Zhea, thanks for all the informative videos, they have really helped with my transition so far! Would love to be included in the giveaway! My voice has always been a big source of dysphoria for me and your videos have been the most helpful thing so far in actually helping both change my voice and educate me on the mechanics behind changing your voice! You are a true inspiration so please keep up the amazing work, you are a lifeline for trans people everywhere! xx

[@TransVoiceLessons]

Hi!!!

[@8flyhawk]

@@TransVoiceLessons Oh my gosh, thank you so much!! I can't believe this but thank you, I have sent you an email and I can't wait to work with you!!!

[@thrivinginamber2642]

congratulations Lewis~ the rest of us can give ourselves a win right now by practicing vocal bridging exercises to open up our range~

[@juliaf_]

Omg congrats!!!

[@juju5768]

Congrats o/ so happy for you ^-^

[@tjc128]

I'm at a point where I feel confident in saying I'd have no use for a lesson, and that's largely thanks to your videos. So, while I'm not here for the giveaway, I am here to provide metrics to the algorithm gods.

[@jayyva]

As a cis guy this was super interesting to watch, this was great content and super informative. I've been interested in voice control for cosplay/crossdress purposes and your channel explains it very well, maybe I'll take some lessons one of these days you two are great teachers

[@ScribblyDoodle]

Omg not every cis person commenting is an egg. Let's just try not to assume anyone's gender identity and let people be whoever they are. This content in super interesting regardless of how you identify. Literally every cis commenter on this channel gets called an egg and it's annoying. Isn't the whole point of this movement NOT to tell people who they are or what they should be, and honour whatever pronouns people tell you?

[@ScribblyDoodle]

@@GoTEnjoyerMatt your point? Vocal feminization is also interesting to: voice actors, actors in general, D&D folks, singers, people interested in vocal anatomy, voice pathologists, cis gendered drag queens, or trans allies who just want to understand more about the process of transitioning. Personally, I'm a beatboxer, and I spend all my time experimenting with my voice and learning sound effects. I would LOVE to be able to gender bend as a vocal effect. Where better to look than the trans community for that information?

[@ScribblyDoodle]

@@GoTEnjoyerMatt yeahhh I guess that's fair. I was taking it too seriously, and it's not really my place to say anything.

[@DaBezzzz]

Having Clover demonstrate the same things really helps pinpoint what were supposed to hear, because I can contrast with differences between your voices and find the thing they have in common more accurately I feel. I also love how you (Z) have very exact answers for things, like your explanation of why hoarseness happens. Really helpful VOD! Edit: this comment was made before I heard Z say exactly this about Clover 😅

[@TransVoiceLessons]

Agreed! I'm so happy this was helpful!

[@BeccaBecca71]

Im with you, Is this comment on several videos, or this video on repeat I do hear the difference but also Clover sounds the same, ex 02:03:40 Clover has a wide range of sound !!

[@mayamihime]

The graph part was extremely useful for me, thanks for another awesome stream! As Zhea said, this stream will be edited and split into separate videos, in the meanwhile, I made some timestamps in case anyone need it: 2:13 Introduction 3:41 Voice Inside Of Your Head 5:44 Scholarship for PoC 7:17 Clover's Introduction 10:20 Ear Training on Vocal Weight 11:32 Clover's Heavy vs. Light Exercise Demonstration 14:11 Zhea's Weight Demonstration 15:37 Quiet Feminine Voices 17:27 Loud Light Voice Demonstration & Gender Perception of Weight 19:10 Simple Weight Exercise & Erasing the Lower End 22:25 Vocal Weight vs. "Chest/Head" Voice 22:45 Hoarseness & Vocal Health 30:21 Vocal Hygiene & SOVTEs (AKA Softies) 37:14 Breathy Light Sounds & Clover's Favorite SOVTE 40:58 Heavy and Light Fry/Creak 43:50 Avoiding Breaks Between Modal/M1 and Falsetto/M2 & Is Falsetto Bad? 48:27 Loudness vs. "Intensity" 52:15 Spectral Tilt/Rolloff 54:50 Weight Breakdown on VoceVista 1:02:52 Clover on Brightness 1:05:03 The "Nasal Misconception" 1:09:24 TVL's Group Lessons 1:10:47 Ear Training on Fullness (Resonance + Weight) 1:16:55 "Give me a reason to learn voice alteration" 1:19:44 Hollow Falsetto/M2 and Fullness & Cute/Vtuber Voice 1:22:07 Overfull Voice 1:26:06 Overtone Singing 1:32:13 KZbinr Zhea Shows Her Claws 1:32:16 Zhea's Fullness Graph 1:35:03 What is Hollowness? 1:36:50 Fullness Graph: Hollow to Fem Full 1:38:40 Fullness Graph: Masc Full to Fem Full 1:38:57 Fullness Graph: Masc Full to Overfull 1:39:17 Fullness Graph: Masc Full to Overfull to Fem Full 1:40:09 Fullness Graph: Masc Full to Semi-Hollow 1:41:00 Fullness Graph: Masc Full to Semi-Hollow to Fem Full 1:42:24 Fullness Graph: Overfull to Hollow 1:43:13 Fullness Graph: Z (Fem Full > Overfull > Hollow > Masc Full) 1:44:43 Fullness Graph: A (Hollow > Small w/ Neutral Weight > Masc Full) 1:45:50 Fullness Graph: C (Overfull > Light w/ Neutral Size > Masc Full) 1:46:50 Fullness Graph: Heart 1:49:43 Fullness Graph: Star? 1:54:04 Clover's Fullness Graph 1:56:05 Do TVL Work with ESL Speakers? 1:57:50 Fullness Graph: Squiggle 1:59:16 Singers and Voice Gender Alteration 2:00:36 Transmasc People On and Pre-T's Voices 2:02:37 Perception of Fullness 2:05:25 Vocal Pain & Muscles 2:07:26 Wrapping up Q&A & Superchats 2:09:04 Zhea on Dysphoria and Internalised Transphobia 2:12:28 Clover on Voice Being a Habit and Emotions 2:14:30 Clover's Larynx Range & Larynx's Effect on Resonance 2:17:40 Zhea on "Located Resonance/Vibrations" 2:20:35 Clover on "Mixed Modal/Falsetto" Voice 2:22:42 Throat Tightness 2:23:52 Zhea on Singing and Feminisation 2:26:00 Plugs & Wrapping up

[@TransVoiceLessons]

Holy shit this is so helpful. Thank u queen ❤

[@bandana_girl6507]

As I'm going through trying to pick out what parts are most important to edit together, this is so useful. Not having to jump half a dozen times to see if I'm at the part I was looking for, too early, or too late is wonderful.

[@NuclearMozart]

As a DM for Dungeons and Dragons, I have found this extremely useful. Thank you both, I will keep up with your channel!

[@mx.pixiedowner4593]

It was so nice having the two of you in one stream! Having two different points of view and styles of teaching is really neat to listen to ^^

[@OhighOSkater]

The control that you both have over your voice is very impressive

[@TomWinspear]

This is awesome, listening to both of you morphing smoothly from one voice to another is mind blowing! The scholarships stuff is so wonderful. You are glowing in this video and look so happy and proud of what you have created

[@TransVoiceLessons]

Wow, thank you!

[@znfi]

I'd love to be able to ask questions without anxiety getting in the way but these livestreams are so much help to me either way so thank you!

[@Meliae]

Hadn't had the chance to listen through until now. Honestly, this is one of your most helpful "videos" on your channel. Beforehand, I could not figure out how both weight and resonance played together (despite kind of understanding them separately). Something about Clover's demonstrations just really made things kind of click. It could also be because the two of you were working off each other too (as opposed to just 1 speaker). Not saying I suddenly mastered my voice because of this, but it has allowed me to actually move beyond the first few steps and learn how to practice now. Thanks

[@sloanesmith3795]

Your video on how to practice helped get rid of a lot of guilt I felt about not practicing enough. Now I practice more often and have more fun doing it! Thank you!!

[@AlyssitGoods]

Unfortunately I couldnt really participate as much as I wanted to. Was listening to this while I drove. But Im checking out that weight chart once I actually get where im going. I also enjoyed hearing you two collaborate and work off each other. Here's to future live streams! 🍷

[@vivianangel5873]

I loved watching you guys play around with resonance, weight and other vocal parameters around the 1 hour mark.

[@marisa_nyaa]

I learned so much! The weight vs size chart really helped explain so much to me. Also it was really great to see Clover too I hope you bring them back again! ❤️

[@Amber-gv6vo]

Such an amazing stream! The vocal weight / resonance graph example in particular was a real eye-opener for me. So yeah, big thanks to both of you 😊

[@TransVoiceLessons]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@josie2173]

Thanks so much for this livestream! It was so great watching you two move through the shapes on the chart and just have fun with these different aspects of voice. Really helps demonstrate how you can play with these qualities to explore them rather than just banging your head against them trying to get a "perfect" voice.

[@ameliaceleste5535]

Thank you for the ear training, learned a bunch with the hollow-full-overfull parts.

[@samanthabanxxx8599]

It's insane how much free content you guys put out, thank you so much! One thing I understood for sure though is that vocal coach is still a must (for me at least), because I feel like I'm not progressing enough. Like it feels like I'm not training my voice enough and not sure if I'm doing it right. I managed to achieve that kind of trans voice when you have larynx high and you just speak normally but from your throat kinda, and i like how it changes my voice, but no idea how to get better from there. So yeah definitely gonna need some actual lessons some time soon.

[@emme1494]

Such a great stream! Loved the weight/size demos and moving through different shapes on the chart. Moving from hollow to overfull was super helpful.

[@aziztcf]

I can't begin to thank you enough for your work, even though my practice regimen is terrible everytime your upload pops up I do a few "ahs" and "heat from fires" :)

[@felixsmith4841]

Ive been on T for quite some time, but my confidence is low bout my voice. I got the oppertunity to start my own podcast and i went with it. So much appreciation for this post, hoping i can ease my dysphoria with the resources im finding

[@KillerGween]

Thank you so much for answering my ask on the livestream! I'm looking forward to those lessons, Z!

[@mycelia_ow]

lol that username, I love it 😆 and that profile picture :)

[@KillerGween]

@@mycelia_ow thank you 😅😊 I came up with the name because twitch's censors didn't like my first attempt. And I drew my avatar myself!

[@juliaf_]

The stream was amazing :) it was super helpful and informative, and at the same time entertaining!

[@hannahkamphof4690]

Don’t think my first comment went through. Thank you both of you for an amazing live stream! I look forward to many more when you make more! Good luck everyone on the giveaway!

[@FearMyWreath]

please keep the stream archive up (as unlisted maybe?) even if you split it into smaller videos! it's great to be able to see the whole thing in context and skip back and forth through it

[@mycelia_ow]

wait she usually takes them down?

[@FearMyWreath]

@@mycelia_ow she mentioned in the stream that she might not leave it up since she would prefer to post the stream as multiple shorter clips

[@dr-ozone]

The weight / fullness discussion helped a lot! Thank you!

[@snewpiee]

Thanks for the stream and giveaway opportunity!

[@hatgirlgorillatag]

What a great stream! I feel like I learned so much just from listening to the two of you. All the stuff with hollow and over-full on the graph was especially useful. Thanks for keeping the whole VOD up!

[@Jessafur]

Thanks again for hosting this session! It was a pleasure to watch! Best of luck everyone in the giveaway 💜

[@mycelia_ow]

Oh dear, Clover has such an infectious and incredible smile :) really made my day much better. and of course Zhea is looking amazing and cute as usual 😊

[@RynnHeldeD]

Dang, I missed the livesteam but hopefully, we can watch it again and again anytime. Thanks for all those useful ressources!

[@ManikinOfficial]

I learned so much from watching this stream. Thank you so much!

[@AsgrimWhat]

Thanks for all the amazing resources!

[@entraptana]

Forgot to comment after the stream but it was so so wonderful!! Coming back to it today to refresh my memory, thank you for this stream, it was so helpful!!

[@kalis51179]

Great stream. I am still a bit new to this and have a lot to work on with my voice control but the graph exercises helped me understand what I am hearing and what type of adjustments need to be made

[@jadude378]

Writing for the giveaway, but the part where clover separated the higher and lower frequency really helped me understand vocal weight.

[@FARSIDEOBSERVER]

I loved the graph with the quadrants! That was so helpful :) I was really having difficulty with the exercises but seeing you both "draw the letters/shapes" with your voice really helped me to overcome my mental block with all of this!

[@lp4969]

This is super interesting, I'm taking all this info for my acting!

[@bach315]

Thanks so much for the lovely stream ❤️ Wonderful to meet you Clover!

[@littleasalamiumbradragonfi6365]

Thank you! This was a super fun stream, and I really enjoyed meeting Clover. Much love to you both 😽

[@TheRealQuiv]

So sorry I missed the livestream.. I just rewatched the whole stream and I learnt quite alot, from you answering stream chat questions and Clover demonstrating. I learnt more about vocal weights and loudness. Wish to book lessons from the website, but money is an issue.

[@thrivinginamber2642]

Everything you're explaining is very helpful, especially coupled with practice exercises from voice/singing training videos. It's also useful to have one or more vocalizations as starting points, as a way to park my voice so it's in a ready shape to slip directly into speaking, which works well after having warmed up.

[@thrivinginamber2642]

Just like using "mmhmm" and similar vocalizations to kick into speaking, dipthongs can kick us into using overtones, and we can modulate it from there.

[@thrivinginamber2642]

oh, I just found a video showing alto, mezo, and soprano singing the same note, which illustrated perfectly how it's about adjusting my range and letting the pitch follow~

[@aaliqq]

WE MADE ITTT HAHA loved getting to know Clover today!!

[@Pokutay]

The flexing part was super rad, definitely spending some time in the lab mimicking that (poorly) later

[@TheWarpathZone]

Just tuned in as the stream ended, excited to rewatch and see what I missed!! Huge thanks to the both of you for putting this on :):)

[@danibreslin5774]

First time I was able to actually catch a livestream and it was super fun. Hopefully I can catch more in the future

[@embracing_cassie1635]

When you talked about nasal sounds I'm like 'hmm well us Aussies are buggered then' 🤣 But definitely helped me learn some new ways to help make my voice more comfortable, thankyou

[@hiavie]

Your work is great and helpful for the whole community, thank you Z and Clover.

[@BR1967FE]

missed the live, but watching the replay 👍 great 👍 info, thx, love ya!

[@athenebujard9819]

Woo giveaway! It was so cool to see the larynx shenanigans with clover! I don’t really care how useless it is for voice feminization/masculinization, it’s still really cool! Also, this has been a very fun stream that has been very insightful to me! Every stream I attend, I feel like I’m learning so much (which I am)! Thank you guys so much!

[@sinterrussell3340]

Thank you so much for the stream! It was light amidst an otherwise physically stormy day(besides the lightning dancing around).

[@gezasrajfas2882]

Awesome livestream! Very great graph presentations and demonstrations next to them. Stay great and thank you again for this wonderful evening😊

[@Starhawke_Gaming]

Watched the live feed and really appreciate everything you both do! Sorry about your camera issues, hopefully you can get them fixed for the next live video!

[@JohnNolanBruce]

great live stream and looking forward to more in the future. Also commenting for the giveaway but this channel is a great resource already and I am excited to see it grow.

[@witorudo1086]

Thank you so much Zheanna and Clover

[@balrog7771]

This live was awesome and perfect! All of it were super useful for me. Thank you, love your work so much! ❤️

[@viomusardathefluffysealgas9347]

Thanks so much, sound is magic

[@minkanjin]

Switch to Dvorak keyboard layout to type even faster

[@xKumei]

The graph and examples at 1:35:03 were amazing. It would help anyone who isn't quite getting to the voice they would like.

[@PetraBrown]

Yes, M, N and G are nasal sounds, yet M seems the softest nasal sound of all Zheanna, so is G when followed by N as in reign. Love from Petra-B❤

[@dee_embee]

thank you so much for this, you’re both wonderful teachers! 💖

[@The10100111001]

That was a lot of fun! Clover is fantastic, i'm looking forward to future streams with them

[@no_uhhhh]

Thank you so much for all the amazing voice resources💕

[@QuinnYouTube]

This was it for me. I kept thinking my resonance was the problem and was straining my muscles trying to raise it. I thought it might take me years. But it turns out I just needed to shift my weight and now I have a usable voice! Thanks Zhea and Clover!

[@sickickick]

this is so helpful, thank you zhea. i cant believe you do giveaways so massive! youre a great help to the community :')

[@mikapeach4599]

Zhea & Clover make such a great duo, I like it!

[@Nitchellinian]

It was so helpful when I see the quadrant with hearing actual examples! Thank you Zhea and Clover for excellent livestream!

[@emmaf4548]

Thank you so much for this stream, really helped me understand vocal fullness and how it connects to resonance and weight with the chart and examples.

[@olishobbyscene1643]

really great stuff. You should get this also out to the world as a podcast.

[@Karasu095317]

Wow so much fascinating things I'm learning, both of you are so good at explaining these complex and really fascinating concepts about voice and sound. I'm still at the very beginning of my transition (haven't even made my new social media as a woman yet...), but I'm lucky that I can start on my voice right away from the start. I plan on using the free exercises on this channel for a while to get started, but I would love to join a group course or book some lessons on their site someday! I'm looking forward to getting into practicing my voice, learning to pay attention to all the details, but also playing around and having fun. Such a good vibe on this channel, thanks so much to Clover and Z for your incredible work!

[@thrivinginamber2642]

Zheanna, can you record lots of people making the exact same pitch sound, like a middle C or the E above or whichever one everyone can make that also has good resonant or illustrative qualities, then put them in a video with each of them played one after another, so we can hear the differences in timbre across the board. Or even record each person twice, once before warming up with a completely cold unmodified morning voice and once at the end of a voice session completely warmed up. It would be very useful resource hearing the underlying resonant qualities back to back across lots of people for the same note.

[@celestiaf675]

Honestly, the best part was using shapes to demonstrate resonance and weight to the masculine/feminine tendencies! Thank you and Clover both, so so much for all your help! Also, does Clover also have a KZbin channel by chance?

[@TransVoiceLessons]

Clover doesn't have a YT. We are gonna be doing more together on TVL. :)

[@celestiaf675]

@@TransVoiceLessons Awesome! I look forward to watching it!

[@chloesirena]

This was a great video; I really enjoyed seeing visuals that were changing along with the sounds!

[@TransVoiceLessons]

Thank you very much!

[@AzuraHorizons]

By the way, thank you so much for keeping this VOD up! It's been great to listen to on my commute to and from school! I've been running into problems finding time to practice, so it's nice to have one time every day where I know I can get something in (Hoping for more listenable sessions like this for when I get through this whole 2-and-a-half hour stream lol)

[@DrBreakalot]

Hey! You asked if you should do more of these streams, maybe one a month. Please do! Seeing people having fun with their voice really gives me motivation to work on my own voice.

[@rafaellab]

Great stream. Thank you both.

[@ambrisabelle]

Hi Z! Loved the stream and love your videos. I wouldn’t have been able to live my best life without you.

[@ghostbug4503]

Thank you for the stream and your hard-working contributions!

[@wonfii4776]

i only caught the second half but ill be watching the full thing thru later

[@finalsparkle7181]

Thanks for the video. I learned a lot!

[@TheAlex726a]

I love the stream, it was great! 💖 The weight/resonance diagram is SO helpful

[@DN-mc4mz]

I didn't see this live, but this stream really helped me make sense of what I'm doing incorrectly with my voice. Thanks so much! Also loved the references to Brood War 🙂

[@aidananderson9350]

Enjoyed the stream, throwing my comment in for the all-powerful RNG

[@mycelia_ow]

papa bless the algorithm 🙏

[@RippleVT]

This has been helping me so much thank you♡

[@bobmcnamee34]

That was fascinating. Thanks for all your videos

[@zeldayounger2394]

This stream was so so great, thank you!!

[@lysandrabasile7977]

Thank you so much for this! It's been a huge help!

[@Josbird]

NICE i was looking for a jumping off point for a drive tomorrow this is perfect

[@xrisandpip2791]

Wow. Thank you for this

[@amyduck5241]

Thank you both so much for the stream!

[@joshhoehne8281]

You are an inspiration, and I hope I win the lessons. Of course I wish we all could win, but. . .

[@MofuRabbitt]

Awesome stream!

[@ellerysionnach8539]

That was wonderful, thank you both!

[@dkir5933]

Thank u so much for this ^^ Lots more to work on so imma enter the giveaway as well

[@beccatodd2590]

Thank you for doing what you do! I’m learning so much from your videos!

[@ellysewilliams8899]

Thank you, that was so helpful.

[@Emi-uq3ts]

Loved the stream, thank you

[@pathosframe]

Thank you for the stream!

[@nataliecrow8716]

Hey :) Putting in my ticket for the possible giveaway! Your videos have been very helpful so far in my voice training.