What YouTube Has Taught Us | S5E20

[@LuisSanchez-fm4bu]

Scott you mentioned that your target audience for your videos are viewers between 19 to 35 years old. I'm 50 and love your videos. They have helped me to improve my journey in miniature painting. Thank you and Nijon for sharing your knowledge with us!!!

[@ryanlopezdevinaspre]

I'm 45 and didn't discover any mini painting KZbinrs until I was about 40, and Scott and Jon are my favorite of the bunch 😊

[@kingkreaghan]

This was a great episode! It was super informative and eye-opening. As one that was getting ready to start a channel, this helped more than you know. I actually recently decided to hold off and push more on Instagram first. You guys never disappoint. Thank you both for the knowledge and time you give!

[@erikbraun473]

I'm 41 and Scott's videos are the ones that without fail I make sure I watch every time they come out.

[@isisnmagic1812]

I'm 57 and only got into the hobby four years ago and Jon was my first youtuber I watched, then Scott, Vince and many others followed and my painting and collection has grown and improved. I love all they do and Daryl is a blast.

[@billdefranza4927]

This. I'm 48 and you guys are two of my favorite KZbinrs.

[@CCMinis]

Thanks for the shout Scott! Fantastic discussion on the nitty gritty of KZbin!

[@isisnmagic1812]

Just subscribed to your channel dude.

[@52Miniatures]

Thanks Jon! I like me too 💜

[@Lefti4life]

Scott, in terms of giving out loot to players, don't underestimate giving your players stuff that isn't tailored for them. Some of the coolest moments will come from a player discovering an innovative use for a piece of gear that they've just been holding on to

[@AlexisGraf]

I’m a sucker for good cinematography which is why I love 52 Miniatures so much. Those videos are so beautiful and engaging

[@TheRoamingbison]

I agree, and I enjoy his low key humor. MS Paints is also beautifully shot and has some of the humor that we enjoy in these guys.

[@gggfx4144]

On the LOTR model size, I think Rick Priestly explained why they were a smidge smaller than others; they were looking for a way to reduce production cost because the IP license naturally cost quite a lot, so the way they did it was by slightly reducing scale and making more models a single-pose clip-out rather than a multi-piece-multi-pose as were many of their other lines at the time

[@sushimandaddi]

Also I’m 90% sure that the Easterling model is forgeworld, forgeworld has always been a different process and resin than fine cast

[@lordgoblin8517]

hell yeah cant wait to listen to this at work

[@metagrossle]

Beat ya to it.

[@alexpaintstinythings]

Loved this episode - to answer the question you asked towards the end, I like videos where I like the presenter, and relate to their POV in some way - I think that's come through on the videos I make now too - people have told me they love the humour, the sarcasm and then the direct ot the point nature of the videos I produce - I'm not the best painter, but I like to help people get back into painting - but this episode was super nice to listen to - loads of food for thought! Thank you :)

[@jackcapybara9335]

Currently have this playing while I'm at work, wishing to be home painting to this. Anyways I wanted to convey in more than just a view and like that you guys are insanely inspiring and I continue to come back to you on not just this channel but the individuals as well. I've learned a lot and continue to practice and keep trying to get better because you guys are making things so approachable and fun. I'm somewhat new to the hobby and absolutely love it. So seriously thank you. I've got like 30 minutes left of this to go 😅 excited to see it though!

[@figureartout]

Thought , I'd drop a second comment, thanks guys for all the advice listened to this TUP vid 3 times and its now saved too 😁

[@ZeehcTunococ]

What I value in a KZbin video are 3 things: 1. Information density: the video respects my time and is not bloated with fillers to artificially create engagement; 2. Humour: are funny moments well punctuated and my cup of tea; 3. Personality: is the presenter well spoken, and the topic presented with humility - that is, without pretence of sophistication, and spoken plainly and clearly.

[@brandon.paints]

Jon, maybe Daryl should do the ad space in your videos 👀

[@LarsStrandenArt]

Fantastic episode! Loved the youtube shop talk, tons of great insight and valuable advice for the tiny baby creators like myself out there :) Found Scott's channel randomly back when he painted the Chef bust I sculpted for Mindwork a few years ago, totally caught the bug and now I'm a certified Goody PP shooting anything from you, Jon, Vince and a ton of other mini creators straight into my veins on the reg! Moms make sure your kids stay off of minis YT 😅

[@tabletopalchemy]

Someone has already probably mentioned this, but one thing I learned thru various rpg resources that has proved extremely helpful is that any *vital* information or item or whatever that must be learned, gathered, met etc by players should not be gated behind a die roll. Maybe there’s a letter the players need to read to progress story/adventure; don’t leave it up to dice to see if players can read it, rather let the dice be used t to see if they can “get into the room” to get the letter. And of course there are three plus ways to get into the room. Hope that helps a little bit!

[@HedoniteOfPaint]

Since you asked. I watch 3 categories of videos when it comes to hobby. I watch you both for seeing your cool project and learning new techniques or concepts from them (almost always). I watch Eons of battle and similar for the chill entertainment value. And lastly I watch TUP and Paint Perspective from Siege studios for the hobby chat and comedy. Aside from that I love the work of you both and combined its just top stuff keep it going! 👏

[@frederikschulze8218]

fun fact: the newer LOTR minis (the Easterling stuff for example is from around 2021/2022, pretty new) are actually the product of a slight scale creep, the older stuff was even smaller in many cases. also: Forge World Resin and Finecast are not the same thing, finecast used to be the term for "GW Resin" that is no longer used for new releases and has been reworked for the existing range to make it easier to use. current GW Resin is different from the original Finecast and that is still different from Forge World. "Finecast" comes on round sprues and FW comes with chunky casting gates

[@xgymratx83]

It’s been a while since I listened, but here we go again… I just started reading Dune myself and didn’t expect a literature discussion straight out of the gate. Well done guys!

[@jaylonreidhead157]

Loved this episode! One of the things about creators that keeps me interested is good story telling. I can see things visually in my mind very well, so I will listen to KZbin painting tutorials and see what they are talking about. However, when there is interesting storytelling, I'm drawn to actually watch the video because there is something special or different about it. Or maybe someone screwed up and managed to fix it. Stuff like that. The journey of painting.

[@mikeparker9812]

So Jon's channel is my favourite painting channel (sorry Scott) because for me it has just the right amount each of humour, education and entertainment. I always enjoy the starts, even when he gets help from that Daryl bloke. Even my wife watches with me, and she doesn't do the hobby. She watches yours too Scott :) Keep doing what you're doing Jon 👍

[@kylelammers971]

I really enjoyed the episode! Keep up the great work!

[@PopeJrod]

Scott, for leaving story seeds in your RPGs try to always follow the rules of 3, as in have 3 ways for the PCs to find that information: e.g. 1. Make a Knowledge check 2. Let them overhear information from sentries or other NPCs 3. The PCs find some kind of travel record, not gated behind any kind of check. You don't need to do this for everything, just the points that are needed to advance the plot. Happy Gaming!

[@Miniac]

big advice

[@cyriltournier]

That's good advice. You can also freely give some info to your players. "You hear / notice /see..." And have them roll only for the finer details.

[@DaronSchmit]

For what it's worth, I think Daryl does a good job of establishing the vibe of the channel in each video and I don't think it would have the same effect anywhere else in the video. I wouldn't mix it, but that's a classic "guy who would watch the videos anyway" thing to say.

[@billdefranza4927]

Can confirm, CC Minis is awesome and I hope his channel grows.

[@CorruptedQuill]

with the star wars ttrpg probs- i really like how Numenera does it with something called " i know a guy" basically you give a certain resource to your players and at any point they can say "I know a guy". this could be someone that is knowledgable about certain artifacts, can hack items or whatever the player needs in that moment. I like how it build lore but also connects the players further to the world. You can also have a roll determining what their relationship is with the person too

[@collinl5023]

Love the podcast! Modern GW Resins are really good these days, though Finecast has been gone for years now. That Easterling is 2-3 years old atp. Lots of LOTR is still resin, it's overpriced but generally high quality stuff imo.

[@darrinscott6612]

GMing advice for Scott as a long-time GM and TTRPG designer: what you're looking for is the concept of "failing forward." The principle is that a failed check should always have consequences AND progress the story. For instance, the player characters fail to hack a security door (which is the only way forward). Rather than the door just not opening, the door does open, but it sets off alarms. Or, they want to persuade a police chief to give them access to something in their evidence locker which they need to discover the bad guys' plans. They fail the check, but the consequence isn't that they never see the evidence, it's that they have to do a favor for the police chief, or maybe the burn a bridge.

[@sapphon]

def. learned to make sure the mic's are working before starting!

[@figureartout]

In one of my own DnD game it became a running joke that there was always a Indian charter named Jerry whom ran every general goods store, what the party didn't know is that he was the BIG BAD.

[@isisnmagic1812]

I'm 57 got into the hobby by chance four years ago, and ninjon was the first youtuber channel i watched and subscribed to, then miniac, vince and his hobby cheats, then others just caught and kept me, yes Alex and Brent I'm talking to you too.

[@KahlAlphOrkius]

Book Suggestions outside 40K: Shogun - James Clavell Lonesome Dove - Larry McMurtry Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card Memoirs of a Geisha - Arthur Golden

[@rpgsa2007]

Listen to audible while painting!

[@gregwhite6005]

Scott, I ran a lot of Edge of the Empire. I ran it more like a group improv session. We would group think cool star warsy results for the setbacks and advantages etc. When it comes to failure in the SW universe think of this: Leia tries to reach Obi-Wan and fails. R2-D2 tries to travel to Obi-Wan and fails by being caught by Jawas. Luke tries to clean R2 and fails but sees a clip of Leia. Luke to spot the Tusken on top of him. Kenobi fails to convince Luke to join him. Han fails to avoid the tractor beam. The rescue attempt of Leia fails miserably. The team fail to account for the tracking device. Chewie fails to get a medal.

[@TerrierHalo]

First of all, Miniature Memorial to a Good Boy is the only paitning video that has given me any kind of emotion, people who haven't watched it are worse off from it. I don't remember when YT changed up how videos were presented to people, 2016? And I remember a guy I used to watch for a video game I played back then changed his titles, and he would just say 'Sorry about the title, but I have to make a living' and it seemed to work for him. What I am saying is that I don't get angry over milldly clickbait titles, they're part of what you have to do in order to have it as a job, to simplify things a bit. It's how people act in the video that matters more. But with that said, no matter what title and thumbnail people put up I hardly ever leave the echosystem of what I am usually watching. When I decided to paint again I searched for an entry, and that was Adam, and from there he mentioned Vince, Sam and then Minjon and Niniac and then at the end Scott and Jon here on this podcast. This is the vast majority of my hobby videos, and that's because someone sane said 'Yeah this person is an okay person' and so on and now the time I'm willing to spend watching these videos full. But with all that said, how old is Sdub there in 2016? And where did he go? ;)

[@sebr20]

Joe Abercrombie is so good. I loved the whole series. Read both trilogies and the books inbetween in the last three months. Hate that it's over.

[@JustinPivinski-cm2rh]

I love the skits Jon. I hope you don't get rid of them.

[@edpacca]

Late to the party here, but for me I just love watching minis get painted. That's mostly what I'm coming for. Recently I have found Jon's titles and thumbnails don't entice me, because they often don't imply that you'd be painting a mini - and then down the line when I eventually watch it I find out that it is actually about painting and I enjoy it. But the thumb and title put me off, as they seem a bit clickbaity. Maybe I'm not your target audience, but it's a fairly simple desire. I want to watch people who are great at a thing, doing the thing. One huge reason I absolutely love EOB is the consistent videos where he just paints a mini and I get to enjoy the process. Big fan though, just saying don't underestimate people just wanting to see you do your thing without fighting the algorithm :)

[@caiohcoutinho]

On channels that I love and why (excludin Ninjon and Miniac): WargamerGirl, initially because it used to be focused on Warmachine mostly (still owns the title for best batreps on Warmachine) and now it's because of the community; Dana Howl, I was hooked since the first video because of the retro-synthwave vibe, also nice humour; MiniWitch, because of painting miniatures and I love her magentas and purples; Justin Wong's, cause the dude is so funny and I like to have fighting games as a good background noise. In most of those, there was a least a single video where I could relate personally with the person behind it, during some kind of struggle (emotional, psychological). I think that's what really hook me to the person and sticking to the channel. The openness, transparency... Sorry for the wall of text

[@D13Hobbies]

What videos I enjoy: 99% of the time when I am watching a video I am actively hobbying. I enjoy the feeling that I can sit down and hang out with a hobby buddy and get some time in. For me, the best part of the hobby is kit bashing - so I love it when you guys do seemingly off the wall crazy sh!t: i.e. let's build a crazy chaos titan or modify an eldar jet bike. That being said I am vested enough to sit and listen to almost anything you want to talk about (obviously).

[@JadeCatMinis]

I would be so mad if Jon removed the funny skits from the beginning of his videos! I love them!

[@JadeCatMinis]

I loved the miniac video where he painted a face with the other guy! It's so good! I made me really want to pull out some faces and try painting them. Usually I put on helmeted heads over faces cause I just can't paint a face I really like. I haven't gone to TMX but if Miniac had the face painting class I would so want to be there for it!!!

[@ehwhat5759]

I listened to this on Spotify already but had to come here to say that Jon calling Joe Abercrombie “feel good” is insane

[@oleww50]

1:50:31 I actually love you’re intro, great music and brings nostalgia of a good to ahead to be watched 🙂❤

[@samlivera4915]

John is spot on, my love for a KZbin video comes mostly from the KZbinr, who made it.

[@hydecleese8877]

If I ever dove into making KZbin content, it would just be me doing my hobbies and sharing that with whoever wants to watch. I wouldn't paywall any content behind a subscription and people would just donate because they enjoyed it.

[@sunlizard13]

Don't put info you want your players to have behind a dice roll. One of the best things I ever learned for running games.

[@ryanpowell90]

@Scott: Regarding the part where you talked about talking to the camera while painting getting cut out of most videos; I think that it would be cool as short-form content to maybe post some snippets of those rants. Yeah, they may not be pertinent to the video, but they may be just out-of-pocket enough to get a laugh and a like from. Keep up the good work you guys, and LONG LIVE THE INFINITE PREAMBLE RAMBLE!!!

[@benytreeide568]

Jon, never lose Daryll. Maybe Daryll becomes your ad read personality.

[@johnbobbryan]

I full support a TUP book club, it could be another fun tier on the patreon. Also Scott should 100% read Joe Abercrombie! One of his works is being adapted to a series soon too.

[@sovietbear1917]

Painted a siocast model for the first time a few weeks ago; those mold lines persist! Every time I thought it was OK, I'd notice bits of the line i just went over. I eventually said to heck with it and painted with some lines on it.

[@jonasandersson1296]

I plan on starting my own kitbashing channel in a few months so Im here with pen and paper like a full on *takes notes* meme

[@jasonjacoby8420]

You better keep the skits!!! I need Darryl in my painting videos. Easily the best part

[@Samsminis]

The #1 thing that has caused me to unsubscribe from a channel or stop watching a video is a bad script. I would say that I'm in the "intermediate" stage of my painting journey, and I'm really tired of the videos that have footage of a person painting but don't have something interesting or engaging to say about what they're doing. I'm not British but I would use the term "faffing" to describe what I mean. There are some smaller channels that I really like, and enjoy their enthusiasm but I can't make it through a video because they run out of things to say part way through, so I skip to see the end result. Anyways, I don't normally tune into your podcast but watch both your regular videos. I enjoyed this discussion.

[@jensburkhardt4006]

Recommendation for further good SF: Dan Simmons' "Hyperion Cantos" nice adventure style start develops into deep philosophical narrative

[@marantzdantz9685]

I've watched Seven Samurai........ maybe 500 times now. I'd call that a conservative number too. I can give an academic level lecture about the film, what you're seeing, what that means, the characters depth and development. Seriously, 500x at least. Some people call it the greatest film ever made. I don't like that as I feel it's not truly representative. It's the greatest film that was, is, and ever will be for numerous reasons.

[@paintedbear89]

For me it's the personalities. Seeing people being authentic and genuine is the biggest draw. People like TUP, BMC, MM, Squidmar etc have such strong personalities and personas that just invite the viewer to keep coming back

[@johnbruce4004]

Refreshing to hear you pair shooting the breeze about You Tube creation. You both offer teaching in a relaxed, approachable and inclusive delivery. Sounds brown nosing but that's your hook to me.

[@eenerzz]

Book Recommendation: The Lies of Locke Lamora series by Scott Lynch | Malazan Books of the Fallen series bby Steven Erikson (starts with Gardens of the Moon). Both are simultaneously fun and good engaging writing while also being deeper like those small shelf literature works Jon was talking about. I felt like the English translation does the Witcher books badly - it's too simple and choppy for me. I watch Vince V because I know I'm going to get an in-depth explaination of not only technique but theory I watch Ninjon becase I know I'm going to get a unique perspective, and I know there is going to be a dose of 'chill, theres a lot of ways to do this' I watch Miniac because I'm going to get a lot of paint time on the model in question, and some immature humor I watch Ataraxia becase she's a badass woman, and will give it to you straight. Also because she shows you the variety of different viewpoints across the YT spectrum I watch AC Miniatures (Twitch) because he's relatable, and despite being in the masters level he makes you feel comfortable. He makes room for review, and has a wide talent cross-section that isn't elitest. I watch Zambies (Twitch) because she's so fun, also a badass woman, and I get to see lots of paint time for the technique in question I watch Lyla Mev because she's a fresh take, and a different perspective - Like I'm not perfect but let's get better together. I (rarely) watch squidmar really only for Lukas' painting content - but it pops up in my feed way more often than anything else.

[@evilpeachesofdoom]

Once you GM enough and get an understanding of how you want to world build, you will find a natural way of getting players to feel like they are moving forward. Fail forward, was great advice. Also, if the murder hobos are just killing and not learning, make them understand why brute force and killing isn't always a smart solution. You can force them to understand how knowledge could be a better solution. Put a player in danger in a way that keeps getting more and more dire each time the players "hit that item with a stick" type solution. Make them pucker a bit.....bait that mouse trap.

[@robertlasitter5284]

I watch/listen to LOTR and The Hobbit all the time while painting. I’ve seen Fellowship well over 100 times.

[@SavageBloodWolf]

TLDR; The best way to preform well on KZbin is “expose yourself on the internet” 2:15:00 🤣🤣🤣

[@playaway69ify]

@Scott My friends and I are a very experienced RPG group and I have recently finished running an FFG Star Wars campaign for them - you talking about what to do when players fail really made me think of all the things we've learned over the years about how to keep a game moving forward. In Star wars it's actually a mechanic built in, effectively think of your players checks as seeing 'how well' or how 'badly' the check goes, you as the GM can decide that there is a base set of info they are going to get either way (hopefully enough to progress the story, but that's up to you), then use the results on the dice to spice up that base result, lots of successes and advantages, great, problem solved - failures and threats can mean they get the core info but they misinterpret something that puts them in more danger like a less optimal route to the objective etc. Anyway I could literally write pages on this stuff but feel free to reach out if you want to talk more, always happy to help out a new GM!

[@Heimdall1987]

I was hoping you’d do an episode about the European Golden Demon like last year!

[@SeaofSpears]

If you like the space opera of Dune Scott I can definitely recommend the Culture series by Iain M Banks, especially the first and last few books in the series. Best sci fi I've ever read.

[@adityam7866]

You should build the Tikbalang or new JSA Mechazoid, the Unicool is so clean and perfect, virtually no cleaning or mold lines, just glue and DONE

[@HuntingHeresy]

The Brian Herbert prequels to Dune are much easier to read.

[@argoth231]

Ya gotta check out the alien books. "Nightmare asylum" being my favorite

[@MikeNmurdoc]

I finally finished painting 18 of my 30 drukhari reavers! Ran 2 bricks of 6 in my last game Tuesday and they got SMOKED 😅 but double bladevaning big bricks of troops is fun

[@gabrielmccray3457]

Joe Aberecrombie is definitely worth a read

[@TheLateNightPlayers]

Love the insight and peek behind the curtain, but every time you guys said “channels with 500 to 1,000 subscribers” I kept sighing. I’ve been at this for a few years now and have yet to break 200 lol.

[@davetrack2950]

It’s safe to assume that the person writing a book paid attention in English class.

[@joshconfer209]

On the subject of on-topic KZbin videos i have recently stepped away from watching certain creators because they integrate patreon, membership and merch into the video at key moments like learning sections or reveals. Takes me out of the experience because you want me to worry about your paycheck and not the content I'm actually here for. Feels even worse if I'm on a platform where i cant skip ads or block the constant barrage of back to back advertising.

[@MrFraknak]

Scott, giving us an essay on why he's not that great at evaluating if stories are great or not. Alien romulus was amazing! Lol face palm

[@SinEternal808]

Tup before work, hell yea!!

[@michaelhull7560]

Have to be that guy and recommend the Red Rising series be added to the TUP book club. Would love to see what y’all think!

[@icamarillo121]

I worked on Alien Romulus and was listening to the podcast lol also Dune 2 as well but you guys fuel my work

[@trappedunderplastic]

That's amazing! What did you do on Romulus?

[@coreyburge8663]

Great video! Jon, did you ever hear back from Joe?

[@Shredzilla_666]

Just roll credits over the still, like a 70s TV show.

[@stefanczolk5183]

1h Preamble Ramble and I am hee for it!

[@bryanbosse5513]

@ninjon you gotta try the new Thrawn books, or the republic commando books, or maybe palpatine. They are all fire and much newer

[@lilalexei01]

I loved the dog mini video, @Ninjon Might not have been a big hitter for clicks, but it hit me right in the feels.

[@dreadtrain2846]

In a plane crash, never put your oxygen mask on. You WANT to pass out.

[@MatthewSmith-h3x]

This is a great comment section…FOR ME TO POOP ON!

[@caiohcoutinho]

"The problem is they're all murder hobos" hahahahahahah Said every GM that has ever GMed ever in the entire history of GMing

[@tay13666]

Book recommendation Another Day, Another Dungeon by Greg Costikyan. Nothing deep, nothing heavy. Just lots of fun with a bit of a spoof on role playing games.

[@CandellieStudio]

It's funny how many videos I'll watch knowing full well I have absolutely no intention or ability even to come close to the same result. It's the people, it's the both of you, it's Alex at 52 Miniatures, it's Boylei Hobbies and Gamey Builds, it's Juggz (the podcast) in all these channels it's the people not the process. If some of it sticks or I use something great. Have a great day.

[@bunionsandcabbage6764]

You guys should totally auction 1 ticket to Vinceycon for charity. With Vince's okay, of course.

[@anthonygavel9146]

Joe Abercrombie is the shit! First Law Trilogy needs an HBO adaption.

[@sushimandaddi]

37:00 audio fixes

[@Draven-rf4bw]

Don’t change the skit placement Jon, those are hilarious, and anywhere else would break up the flow

[@quitamgogh]

Scott, re Dune. Think of it, facially, as a an allegory of the middle east/oil/climate change. It’s also an exploration obviously of authoritarianism, charismatic leaders, and the power/danger of religion. Amongst like a thousand other themes.

[@ErikFrankhouse]

Use that threat as a fail forward mechanic. Yeah they fail, but have it tell them what you need but also a warning is sent to people hunting or tracking them. HELL or the empire when they go to leave!

[@casperchow5024]

Jon your winning entry piece is this year. Not last year.

[@billdefranza4927]

The State of Play is also great.

[@spencerreed8403]

Books stormlight archives and mistborn

[@U_N_C_L_E_Mike]

Definitely, with book 5 coming out at the end of the year, it's the perfect time to start.

[@type6]

What if, while they're trying to figure out the planet, they get bad information. Say, they find out it's one of star wars frozen planets, but then they show up to tattoine poorly equipped for the elements?

[@craigpattenden]

Oh my god Joe Abercrombie, I couldn’t recommend him enough!!!!

[@OvantheWise]

How important is it to everyone that the person your watching has a “studio” like appearance to there videos? I have never really cared as I like to see all the half finished projects in the background from time to time. Though I understand if the desk is clouded that can be distracting. It feels like so many KZbinrs record in what feels like a studio and that takes a small amount of the character out of it for me. But I’m curious to know how everyone els feels.

[@chrislear8881]

Scott, the word you are looking for is hermeneutics. 🙂

[@makaero1504]

I'm not sure you'll see this but here's some unsolicited thumbnail/title feedback as a member of your core audience based on the discussion; I didn't click on Scott's Nuln Oil video (yet) because my initial impression was that it was trying to sell me something. Is your favourite paint slowing you down? Felt like you had a better paint for me to buy, and I'm kind of over getting excited for paint ranges at this point. This is incorrect of course but that was my instant impression. If the tagline had the 10 tips thing I'd have watched it. I prefer to know what I'm watching, that title tells me nothing so I infer my own meaning and get it wrong. Jon's titles are honestly mildly enraging and I watch because I know that it will largely be a good video anyway. I suppose that means the packaging is not for me but to attract new clicks, I do occasionally roll my eyes hard enough to not bother though. Petty and probably worth the trade off for you, but I think there's a middle ground. Scott's titles tend to grab me 9/10 times. TUP is incredible, makes my commute fun for a day.