Are You A Pro Painter? | S5E22

[@G3arsguy529]

Intermediate 2 gang rise up!! 😤💪

[@carminesblade1625]

Ring announcer voice; coming in at 89,000 paint pots the man who can't eat in Greece, finesse over mess Scott the miniac! At 88,500 paint pots, this man owns so much paint he sunk his house under the water table, the multicolour maestro, Ninjon! Welcome to trapped under plastic!!! Ps I'm sorry my brain made me do this 😅

[@DnDad]

Long time fan and fellow Minnesotan, you guys rock! Thank you for all the help with painting.

[@Markenst0ne]

First of all, this should be called the Minjon Ranking Scale. Secondly, for Miniac, I took your survey recently and said I appreciate your technique and how to videos the most, as the way you explain things (like the airbrush 101 video) truly makes me feel like I completely understand the topic after watching it. Now that I understand that I'm a intermediate 2 like a lot of people, videos that could explain some of these advanced painting techniques like NMM or OSL done to the granularity of the airbrush video would be great. Maybe there should be a painting course to have you go through each of these categories???

[@alexanderdiogenes8067]

Yo, I mega appreciate this mini therapy/philosophy session during the preamble ramble re: "not every meal in your lifetime needs to be a banger."

[@evinoshea5215]

I agree that painting to your fullest ability was the best thing that I did to improve, gain confidence, and pull together all of my skills. I really appreciate that this podcast has encouraged me to paint models to a very high standard (relative to my own skill) - it has made me better and more satisfied with my painting.

[@grombatmole]

Totally agree re competitive minis games. I’ve always had the most fun playing narrative games with friends. Things like Mordheim and W!RCC10K would be awful hardcore competitive games BUT are delightful story generators. Great to hear more coop games from Jon that I can play!

[@gggfx4144]

This was a really useful topic; made me think about the gaps in my painting skills, now I'm trying to paint more mindfully and work on some of those

[@mightyawesomeminis]

Great topic and discussion! I think the difference between the various tiers is going from painting within the limits of your abilities, to being able to paint within the limits of your imagination.

[@aaron.h.paints]

If you receive product for review purposes that is definitely considered being sponsored (according to KZbin anyway). The IRS agrees too because they want you to pay taxes on the value as part of your income.

[@FrostFire600]

Love the Sure't!

[@richardregner219]

Loved this breakdown, thanks.

[@matttd9490]

@26:15 great analogy !

[@claymanning2729]

Long time fan here, I have a topic idea for an episode! What if both of you were judges and had images of like 5-10 models and you guys both go through your process of what would be at the top, and what models would be needing improved. I think it would be fun to see how you guys approach judging differently, and might be interesting to see how you work through that. Cheers

[@evilpeachesofdoom]

wow, great topic, great great topic. This was huge, let me be the (insert prior number of comments here), the way to look at something into colors, highlights, shadows, depth of color mixes and the way they blend. I just use color pencils to help me create a palate of understanding to help with how my painting will turn out. Also, crayons work well too. Blending and the depth of blending is crazy. I work backwards before working forwards with my colors and blending, but learning everything is important.

[@Miniaturesanonymous]

Thank you for making my monday better

[@savannahbrewer6161]

Ninjon is allowed to like golden demon, nobody is allowed to take the joy he finds in it, but liking something doesnt make it objectively good.

[@bluething3D]

Good is a subjective term. Objectively good is an oxymoron.

[@Miscast]

Get the mattress and with sponsor money you fly me over and sleep on the mattress and I don't leave

[@Yesbryn]

I'm with you on enjoying co-op and RPG sessions more than competitive games. I'll still play competitive but I love getting a whole table together and sepnding the time on a group activity that isn't all about outdoing everyone else.

[@stankshop]

Great episode, but the summaries of each of the levels had confusing analogies. Please re-explain using ducks. Also, it's very comforting to hear you both gawk at Sam's painting speed. Thank you.

[@SnyperMac1]

As I’ve gotten farther through this podcast, just as a reply to Jon: you don’t necessarily have to value red up to orange or pink. You can value red up and keep it red it’s just an odd process. You have to get between orange and pink to get that result, so something like a bronze or sunny skintone will help you to get there

[@RealGyouza]

Growing up we generally had snow by ot on Halloween. We always bought costumes big enough to wear over winter coats and snow pants

[@milgram12]

Love the thumbnail lol.

[@brandonburrow8632]

Movie recommendation! Tucker & Dale vs Evil. Pretty sure Scott and his wife will like it.

[@SnyperMac1]

I live in Ontario Canada, not too far from MiniWarGamer Dave and it was over 80°F here on Halloween. I couldn’t even wear a costume because i couldn’t stop sweating

[@pvrhye]

I'm nowhere near a pro painter, but that ethos about just working on something until its good was installed on me in my art program at university. Problems happen every time. You either despair, or you do one of the trillion things you can do to fix it.

[@milgram12]

A good way to know you are in the high intermediate stage is that your likes drop off. People like to encourage beginners, and they’ll stop to look at pros. But if you are intermediate there is nothing to see, move along. Not being bitter, just an observation I’ve made.

[@DaronSchmit]

This is the copium I need ❤

[@MyOwnLanguage]

I thought of something funny, next time you have Vince on the show say “Hellllooooo every BALDY” I was literally laughing out loud when I thought of that at work earlier.

[@U_N_C_L_E_Mike]

Where would understanding the mini and the best angles make your list?

[@toogreytogame]

The interesting point around tools is that better you become, the less you will rely on premium tools. A cheap size 6/8 with a good tip will end up being your workhorse.

[@ryaneasterling1556]

I really have the opposite opinion about competitive vs cooperative games. I feel competitive games are better games 4/5 times, but cooperative games are fun just because your playing with friends and your friends are fun to do things with. Near the end Jon was talkong about how people dont get mad at eachother, but thats a personality thing and self control, a good game should be enjoyable even when you lose.

[@lordblackstorm4903]

Not afraid to say that I have been a beginner for the last 20 years! But I am trying a little harder now. Currently testing with oil paints…will see I guess.

[@TheGeppywizard]

Anyone else feel they pop back and forth between several of these levels on a seemingly random basis? Just me? Cool. 🙃

[@asgardianodin6480]

Jon it sounds like you need to paint up one of the Cosmire minis to get Brandon Sanderson's interest then you guys play a game of magic and paint some minis.

[@CygnusMaximusXIII]

I change my own oil... It costs less, and I can be sure the drain plug isn't cross-threaded or destroyed by some random kid who doesn't care about my car at the oil change place. I can also be sure it's actually filled properly, that the gaskets are lubricated before the filter is installed, etc. Why would I not?! Also, the "vulture claw grip" is really common in people on the autism spectrum, and just because folks don't understand how it's effective, doesn't mean it's not.

[@schwegburt3002]

Ninjon . . . you sound so much like me when it comes to competitive games. I start off tabletop pvp games all happy and gracious. But eventually I feel the devil in the back of my head start to bubble up and it's like Mass Effect 2 Sovereign "Assuming Direct control!" and I just get cranky and irritable. The rational part is saying "Calm down" but the part of my brain behind the wheel is all grumpy.

[@bunionsandcabbage6764]

Trapped Under Plastic: Come for the Tendies; Stay for the Merit Badges

[@SeerIbarelyknowher]

1:57:10 big brain 🧠

[@clubjer]

This sounds more like a gradient from beginner to an advanced expert. To be a "professional" implies that you've graduated to a point that individuals or a company are willing to pay for your talent and expertise to such a point that you can make a living from painting. Painting for box art and receiving a paycheck or steady commission are professionals. I'd even include KZbinrs like Scott and Jon who have sponsors, ad revenue and Patreon as professionals as this is how they make their living.

[@heikkitakainen1600]

2 weeks just went by? Im sure the last episode came out last monday.

[@ZachC-130]

Jon, I need an stl of your samurai. Don’t make me buy a bunch of bits from a game I will never play.

[@toogreytogame]

The higher you rise, you won't abandon washes, contrast etc but you'll start to use them in different ways; as a filter for example.

[@tabbyplays930]

I... don't know where I fall in these.. a lot of things in the intermediate "rankings" i know how to do... but.. I dont wet blend. I understand it, but hate it.. 🤷‍♂️ I've been painting 20 years, but y'all better than me.. I do just army paint though usually

[@CCMinis]

On the competitive vs co-op gaming discussion, try team wargames - 2v2! Best of both worlds, if you're loosing at least you're loosing with a friend. Team tournaments are such a good time

[@thesqueaze6509]

Reese Reese's Reesies Figure it out.

[@RenMomoDotPog]

Guess I'm an intermediate 1, and I don't really wanna go beyond that, so that makes me a bad painter :/

[@billdefranza4927]

Dude, anybody but Carolyn.

[@Slayernuke83]

Gotta disagree with Jon on that space marines don't include random cultural bits. Look at the new Dark Angels Terminators and the Blade Guard both have european knight helms

[@maxwellrpower]

Honestly I think GD's biggest problem is the current generation of painters probably mostly grew up under the 'everyone's a winner' theory where every kid gets a participation ribbon so no-one feels left out. No art competition is ever going to be totally objectively fair in my opinion. Doesn't mean I think it's perfect but people really seem pretty whiny sometimes. I dunno, I was born a grumpy old man, I can't help it so don't hate me for my grumpy old man opinions 😂

[@asuranshadow9491]

Wait, the painting levels aren't pay to win!?!

[@theOGBitSlinger]

Trapped under mattress

[@clishaml]

Trapped Under Plastic, the podcast that, in another universe, is definitely about My Little Pony.

[@JPGotrokkits]

I got paid to paint once or twice. Technically professional, but not professionally technical. Long live mediocrity!

[@DydraLIVE]

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[@Hobbymonstergames]

Dang, beat me to it lol

[@jc7997aj]

And here's your prize .........🖕.

[@Hobbymonstergames]

Hayooooooo first

[@jc7997aj]

Oh you get a prize too....🖕.

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[@tmsdnmrk]

@trappedunderplastic Scott, wasn't it your goal to get featured on "Do not miss this week" by Volomir? Where is the celebration?