Trashtalk on Lancer: Manticore

[@NayrAnur]

I WANT TO HURT YOU- Come here. I WANT TO CAUSE MUCH PAIN AS I POSSIBLY CAN- I am a normal mech.

[@suckonfatman6027]

Chill, i'm a nice mech. I just hate the enemies of the godhead.

[@NayrAnur]

@@suckonfatman6027 What better way to deal with the enemies of the Godhead than to castigate them, eh?

[@oliverwirth42]

Remember the ABCs of close quarters combat: Always Be Castigating the enemies of the godhead

[@DDespicable]

What if u do it super early in a session? Are you out of the game until next sesh at the earliest or will the gm just drop ship in the next clone in line with a brand spanking new suicide mech at the end of the scene? I dont think i wanna live in that universe?!

[@SONGS5665]

There is something hilarious about using a walking nuclear tesla coil. And to think that this isn't one of the most insane mechs. I love this game already.

[@amandacelia5204]

Playing a Manticore Pilot isn't for everyone, but as I'm playing a penal colonist that now is a pirate, it is the perfect mecha. They'll never catch her alive. Also is hilarious to see the reaction of other players, every time I make an attack that also makes me some damage.

[@commakand1844]

Castigate the Enemies of the Godhead is the best Core Power name to date.

[@gman1515]

It's not the core power though. It's just a trait. it's core power is the charged exoskeleton.

[@cibrig8719]

Execration of the names of the unworthy dead on calendula hits hard too

[@aldar8240]

@@gman1515 Destruction of the Temple of the Enemies of RA is pretty up there too though

[@MrFoundryguy]

I remember first finding LANCER randomly one day and then reading the Manticore and Pegasus traits and deciding "This is now my new favorite mech game." Castigate and Destruction have been a running joke between me and a friend for years now.

[@Peztllence]

¿%:? EXTR!UDE GUN

[@o.hybridity6501]

Manticore features one of the absolute silliest weapon/talent synergies in the game imo. Double catalyst pistols and Gunslinger III in a target-rich environment mean you can potentially proc I Kill With My Heart twice in a single quick action if you roll well-slap that shit on a tuned-up Tortuga with some HA kit and CQB support and you can burn down the world.

[@DashingSteel]

"My main goa! is to blow up! And act like I don't know nobaday! HAR HAR HAR!"

[@heyfell4301]

I imagine this is the ideal mech for a oneshot. Flashy, powerful, full of personality and makes for a pretty epic finale when the pilot inevitably goes down in a blaze of glory.

[@CrossBorderNerds]

Pretty sure coming back from death isn't that simple in both the fluff and crunch.

[@bunnywaffles1190]

If you are playing as a lunatic who WILLINGLY pushes their mech into CEotG Mode, then whatever drawbacks "revival" might have or even just permadeath should NOT be an issue for your Lancer IC.

[@VGM00021]

Sounds like a good match for the Nuclear Cavalier talent. Time for a little HOLY WAR!

[@DaBlueIghuana]

FOR GODHEAD WE CHARGE (our systems to overheat)

[@joshuasmyth3115]

Manticore is probably my favourite mech for any psychotic character. Designed to be thrown into the middle of everything and cause ungodly amounts of suffering.

[@InchonDM]

DM'S GUIDE TO HORUS MECHS: MANTICORE As in real mythology, D&D's manticore is a wacked-out-looking monster with a man's head, a lion's body, and a tail that fires spikes. One difference that D&D manticores have is that they have the wings of dragons as well in most cases, making them quite dangerous as any flying enemy is. They are basically covered with spikes and other pointy bits, so getting close to them is a bad idea. One thing that's NOT different, though, and you might not expect this, is that manticores speak Common. The original manticore was of Persian origin and was very similar to the Egyptian sphinx, the only difference being that it usually skipped the riddle portion to go straight to the kill-and-eat-people portion (its name literally derives from "man eater"). The manticore's voice is usually described as "like a trumpet", which is to say loud and arresting, and likely used for little purpose except to surprise, trick, and then mock you. D&D manticores are quite dangerous but not ridiculously so, and often get picked for use as boss encounters for low-level parties as they can handle multiple people with all their attacks without being too instantly deadly.

[@adzi6164]

2:15 too bad it's clarified: a clone may be an almost flawless copy, but it is still not a revived consciouness of the killed pilot. Not that important in gameplay, but rather important philosophically

[@sephapplewhite8477]

You misspelled *terrifying*

[@heyfell4301]

That seems pretty cool, actually. Someone who thinks death won't matter, then gets "revived," notices how they lost a part of themselves with this cloning and then is suddenly way more scared of death since they now know the cost of resurrection.

[@xalrath]

@@heyfell4301 there is a very good adventure path for Lancer: Field Guide to Suldan, which features this as a plot point. short version: a real awful piece of shit couped his way to being in charge of a world, with the help of the nice lady who told him "hey I can make you immortal." she knew she was lying. he didn't. Julian Ambrose Khan, First of His Name, Twenty-Sixth Of His Clone Lineage, had gone a little weird towards the end, and as a result got overthrown by a popular rebellion. Julian Ambrose Khan, First Of His Name, Twenty-Seventh Of His Clone Lineage, would very much like his throne back please, and still has the keys to... most of his superweapons. the one that does not pick up the phone when he calls anymore is probably not worth worrying about

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

​@@heyfell4301Reminds me of Log Horizon

[@nuclearattackwombat8390]

The point of the Manticore is to remind people that tabletop RPGs aren't just about winning, they're about telling a story. Sometimes tragedy and loss makes for a better story than "Huzzah, everybody lives!" Or maybe you just want to run your Lancer pilot as a drugged-up adrenaline junkie who deliberately pumps HORUS propaganda directly into his brain and literally rolls a die before each fight to decide if this fight is "The Big One", with his inevitable replacement being an estranged sibling trying to figure out WTF went wrong to make him that way.

[@KillerOrca]

Some people just wanna see the world burn, and if they gotta be the spark, well.

[@camtube55]

I have cloned myself 30 times. My mission now is to figure out why Only clone #27 immediately bought the manticore license and went full horus.

[@CitiCite184]

Brb making a manticore pilot name Hayato who has a trigger for bath-time

[@devincolborn523]

Now Killer Queen is gonna be stuck in my head all day... not that I'm complaining. XD

[@watcherofmemelords7967]

Killer queen has already touched your atlas.

[@FlyingRefridgerators]

I watched this years ago, and I still come back to watch it now and then because it brings me so much joy. Manticore is my favorite mech, and the delivery here is hilarious - especially about death in the game.

[@Chaoslizard]

This comment might be a little out of left field: But, have you considered making a video about Roleplaying in Lancer? It might be interesting to hear about what it's like in Lancer vs. other RPGs. I know you sprinkle it around here and there and the Lore video series it a real treat and very inspiring, but something specific might be useful. Or just fun!

[@Chaoslizard]

Consistent, quality content. My kind of youtube.

[@uhBriefcase]

Killing it with these Lancer videos!

[@ian5395]

"wait, what?" Shush commando! Be silent!

[@WarmthOverCold]

Thank you for getting me to listen to Killer queen.

[@rachnussouldrinkerlibraria5640]

I dont plan to die, but if i do, then i will make sure that i have some souls to cushion my fall into hell

[@btchaplin7859]

When you’re playing Horace, but you feel like you wanna play Harrison Armory too

[@masterzoroark6664]

wanna make a Manticore that looks like a jumping spider and pounce at the enemies to taze them And that tp manouver sounds like something a Mourning Cloak would love (as technically you could separate someone from their budies by switching places with this one quite unfortunate sod) And well- CASTIGATION CAN TAKE MANY FORMS

[@yetisnowmanthing3381]

KILLA QUEEN DAISAN NO BAKUDAN: BIT ZA DUSTO

[@Shattering_Comet]

By far my favorite Horus mech

[@solemnjohnson570]

5:42 does it pop his core passive too?

[@11dragonkid11]

yesssss

[@solemnjohnson570]

@@11dragonkid11 gotcha so he's a god dang tesla coil on legs?

[@RainbowGod666]

Manticore: either you reference ARGs or JoJo, no in-between

[@rita6355]

The monument mythos isn't really an arg

[@gman1515]

Someone please correct me and tell me where to find the rule in the book if im wrong, but nowhere in the book does it say burst areas dont include the character using them (unless they are an attack, which is specifically stuff like skirmish, barrage, quicktech, etc.) So destruction of the Temple of the Enemies of RA would nuke the manticore as well if it popped would it not?

[@11dragonkid11]

yes

[@hraughr]

explode :Commando pops in:, hah, the dude knows something about exploding

[@michaelcharlton5972]

Why don't we get the Vlad pinned down nex? :)

[@lucasfv1357]

YS ATUM VRAMA PRESH

[@yungo1rst]

hmm, i would bet unlimited power jokes are rampant with this mech. sounds fun for a brawler type.

[@that1guy-u-no38]

If you talk about long rim mechs please do zheng I like Zheng alot

[@cedrickulacz8468]

Now that the manticore has an alt frame now, who's looking forward to THAT TrashTalk? X3

[@ten_of_diamonds7575]

Is the wing gundam considered a Manticore?

[@Tyrannmon]

Ok manticore is now my favourite mech because I have fallen in love with lancer mech rpg that why it my profile picture what do you think it’s my Personal mech so any other mechs in the comments would like to be friends hehe

[@wormwoodbecomedelphinus4131]

Nothing stopping you from taking Blackbeards berserker NHP and then ejected whilst your autonomous mech throws itself on the nearest enemy. Its not castigation but self destruct damage is pretty good still. Just saying.

[@banansa4778]

Yea play suicide mech and get a stuck with a massive price tag to build another because dingus AI thought walking nuke was cool.....

[@Paradockzz]

everything is 3D printable

[@sirderik]

This mech shows a major flaw with the lancer setting, when you remove failure states of a setting as death, federation dissolving of plausible possibly of failure of danger, the fact that you can't have family still alive if they haven't jumped(time difference makes you generations older) the mechs can be 3D printed, like nothing matter so fuck it anyway no sacrifices matters nothing can fail... Big Reason I have never seen lancer ran 100% in the book.

[@11dragonkid11]

You do know that's a joke and that you really do die when you get killed right? The clone thing just let you continue your character with further complication because your existence might very much be illegal. Otherwise you just make another character in the same license level.

[@nuclearattackwombat8390]

I agree that removing the failure states in an RPG can really trivialize things - it's a big reason why I prefer GMs who ban the various Resurrection spells in D&D and Pathfinder. That being said, death in Lancer is very much a failure state. Your character dies. Period. They are *gone*. You can get a new character with mental and/or physical trauma and a sorta-working imprint of the old character's skills and personality, but that's it. Having everything 3D printable means that losing your *stuff* doesn't matter as much - unless it happens mid-mission when there's still another two scenes to go. I think the book even suggests putting the players into dire straits where they don't have easy access to a military grade printer and have to get creative with their repair and resupply.

[@paulmahoney7619]

I mean, you’re still fighting for something. Maybe what you’re fighting for becomes effectively unachievable in your lifetimes.