Garnt Now has the Same Music Taste as Connor

[@千反田奉太郎-c2q]

TheAnimeman loves music more than anime. It's obvious.

[@myrealusername2193]

TheMusicMan time

[@mechashadow]

His list above anime is much longer, you been knew.

[@Condor-gb1xp]

lol he sucks at it too

[@demonicakane2083]

​@@Condor-gb1xpnah he's good musician

[@LazyComplicator22]

@@Condor-gb1xp He sucks at it too? So you mean he sucks at Anime and also sucks at Music? Music one makes sense, but how do you even suck at Anime lmao?

[@InfinityDude88]

I agree that the lyrics in songs aren't as important as the musicality and overall quality. After all, pieces of music that aren't songs can still be deeply impactful and tell a story as Garnt said. I still don't think this properly addresses Connor's original beeps and boops argument though given there is so much that goes into music other than lyrics and notes.

[@kylekgh]

Very much depends on the artist. As Joey said with Kendrick the lyrics matter massively.

[@erhanjpg1467]

how are you commenting on this 2 days ago?

[@EmptyHand49]

@@kylekghWell he better hope it does because music part is lacking

[@SoundsOfTheWild3]

Some genres I think are geared towards lyricism like genres that depend on story telling such as Folk, Country, and singer/songwriter. Other genres singing is more important like Opera and R&B, while other genres instrumentation is the most important like a lot of Jazz and extreme metal.

[@SoundsOfTheWild3]

Cringe lyrics can make a song unlistenable, but when an artist is really good at it like Pink Floyd or Tool then it can really make the song special.

[@crigonalgaming1258]

There are songs where lyrics don't even matter, then there are songs where the lyrics are everything.

[@tomhubbard8510]

5:50 Joey: "Do you think it might be because I'm a classically-trained musician... and you're a fucking idiot?" Connor: "Nah."

[@tescomealdeals]

And Connor's correct, because any musician who tries to tell you that they have an inherently deeper appreciation for music than you or thinks that "classically trained" actually means anything is both an idiot and a pretentious snotwipe. Coming from a musician

[@canti7951]

​@@tescomealdeals That genuinely hurt to listen through lol. Joey did say he had a very pretentious snob phase with anime and movies. Maybe he's still going through that phase with music.

[@tescomealdeals]

@@canti7951 oh 100% lmao

[@medfiksa]

@@tescomealdeals​​⁠​​⁠Connor’s knowledge about videography is far deeper than mine. I can’t (and consequently don’t) appreciate certain tricks and intricacies, meanwhile he does. I don’t think Joey’s acting like a snob, he’s not talking about gatekeeping appreciation through knowledge, but how having deeper understanding gives you another POV. At least that’s how I perceived it.

[@beegyoshi1685]

@@canti7951 he is still on that phase on anime for sure tho

[@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu]

I grew up listening to system of a down when i was 10. I never knew what the hell they were saying most of the time. Especially as the first album i had was hypnotise which is their most off the wall album. I still loved it.

[@vladyugay64]

Ah yes, famous "WAKE UP akfhdhfhrjek MAKE-UP ajdhfjrjtjskor SHAKE-UP"

[@allright29456]

MF DOOM is probably the middle ground example where it didn't have to make sense as long it flow and rhymes well, because most people can't even catch the lyrics even in the 10th plays. Even though it sometimes felt like a bunch of words mashed to rhyme generator, there's a lot of deeper meaning and layers of entendre that can be explored for who is interested in to the lyricism. Oddly enough for me there is several times I misheard a lyrics just to realized it is a part of the entendre.

[@burro43]

Kendrick Lamar might have been the best example to bring up

[@mikehawk8984]

I totally agree with Garnt and Conner weirdly enough. I like lyrics, but they're like the garnish to the song. I think that's why I like a lot of foreign music or opera as well, because I don't hear the actual words that they're saying it's just another instrument to me 😅

[@PranadonNakaseths]

Garnish....

[@malclmhexed5978]

Joey mentioning TPAB threw me for a loop I’m not gonna lie lol

[@Mindonicon]

Same bro😮 i was like, man of culture

[@zotaninoron3548]

The lyrics to Still Alive by Jonathan Coulton make that song that song.

[@soulslider5117]

Connor when a concept album comes on

[@WeirdTroll666]

music is such a strange topic

[@Greg56_]

one of the most popular mediums is a "strange topic"?

[@WeirdTroll666]

@@Greg56_ strange as in it having infinite interpretations, music is the soul of man

[@eliteblueplayz9972]

Yeah it really is because it's subjective vs subjective

[@Mindonicon]

@@eliteblueplayz9972W pfp

[@crazyBloodmonkey]

It's still crazy people didn't know what pump up kicks was about. Legit first time i heard the song i was like "this us catchey but it's crazy how messed these lyrics are." I really don't know how people didn't know lol.

[@fauzirahman3285]

This is such a great wrap up to what people feel about music.

[@ReaperOfBenefits]

The Best way to describe it with me is the way the lyrics sound in the song make the song what the lyrics are and mean dont matter at all

[@Thepotatohidingintheshadows]

Yes This is me This is why I’m able to listen to Japanese music No idea what they’re saying but it scratches an itch I didn’t know I had

[@vidcas1711]

Same here, I listen to a LOT of City Pop and other genres of Japanese music. Not understanding the lyrics isn’t a big problem for me. If anything, the translated lyrics can be pretty generic and not all that meaningful.

[@erhanjpg1467]

What's the song called that goes beep boop boop bop boop boop beep?

[@darkangel7589]

I read that in Mr. Krabs’s voice

[@darkgriffyn9798]

Nobody's Real by Powerman 5000

[@tomhubbard8510]

Popcorn by Gershon Kingsley.

[@stunt95hstdt89]

Thats me listening to Yoasobi. I dont have a clue what their songs are about, but they are fucking bangers. All I need to know. Thats probably why I dont like most of the music from my own country. And yeah, I didnt know turning japanese either. When I think of 80s I think of Depeche Mode.

[@siaorihara]

What I look for in music is when I visualize a river/feel like I’m floating in the ocean. Like the music turns into a river. Which is why I hate rap cause it looks like a car crash. People have gotten pissed at me cause i said that and rant that some rap flows like water but all the ones I’ve heard don’t or give me a headache/make me sick.

[@panfarmld9664]

Me looking at guilty gear strive new season pass character trailer : ...(눈_눈)"Yes i agree"

[@seabass8193]

Honestly as sometimes nonsensical as guilty gears music is I actually really like the lyrics

[@Gsjsjdhkslsls]

The good songs have banger music and lyrics that do not only stick with you but also tells a story that hits different in some way or another. I get Connor bc he doesn't like reading, so he doesn't have appreciation for story telling. In Garnt's case, idk if it's just his adhd brain or his guitarist brain that only thinks about riffs 😂

[@suntannedduck2388]

As someone that cares about the sound, the structure, I couldn't care less about lyrics. It depends on the spin of the lyrics/theme. But to me the complexity/simplicity can be more a thing to me. No matter the genre. The artist's style or complexity or catchy little bits matter to me. I even have a SoundCloud playlist about key parts I love that stick to me and all structure of the sound. I can take lyrics but I don't ever care for lyrics. To me they need a spin for me to listen to the lyrics. Discoholic Movie Love to me was a nice spin on a love song, or vocal chops as a fan of EDM. To me lyrics being memorable is something which chorus/drop ones are but otherwise the odd other parts can to a degree. But the sounds are more then the words no matter how they are presented. The sounds from instruments or sounds and structure. Sometimes they sound weird due to how it's spoken/mixed. You fill in your own gaps. Sometimes it sounds a certain way the lyrics. But I don't care if it's correct. Lyrics videos/karaoke will always mess with things. Yeah fitting it in especially when singing yourself yep. It doesn't always make sense or always fit but how it's mixed/pacing. I am not a musician. I appreciate complexity/simplicity and how it fits the technique I seek usually. I use an app, but no music skill, I understand the techniques by hearing but I don't completely get it. I do my own weird techniques. As far as the app offers. But I cared before I did that. I am no expert still. I don't know music theory but some people don't but still appreciate music. Or some did do it without reading music. I don't always care about meaning but sometimes meaning is fine. To me.sounds matter so much, the meaning can ruin it I care for the sound more/zone out to the sound. The lyrics are like talking how much do I want to focus on that I have more to focus on. Being critical/always understanding everything in media can be too awkward. So just enjoying it in a zone off way is fine. Then again different languages not understanding happens too but still appreciating even if the words could be dark and deep and your like uhhhhhh. But the sound is good. Same as in our own languages. I can enjoy old music, the music videos. I still like the Aardman animations for their ads or the sledgehammer music video. Or the wall or shock the monkey. I still enjoy the sound or others. I don't listen to them or others really. I listen to modern EDM but if I hear other songs from other people's tastes and they are catchy I don't mind. Yeah the meaning like Joey points out for some are like yep that makes sense. Some are catchy but some are very particular of meaning. But so e present them in a particular way. Think heard of some, but never heard their meaning. To me it's like with games I can sometimes tell they had fun, or do this and that and I'm like that complexity or some particular angle to the techniques in a game's design.

[@k00_ma]

connor should really listen to aphex twin, especially if he likes people like daft punk. very cool music to zone out to and no lyrics at all

[@FoxCoffeeGaming]

Is there a deeper meaning to too much volcano?

[@blueberriesinmycoffee1234]

I noticed the song and artist from the thumbnail, and they seem to be really, really obscure at least on spotify. Maybe people will check it out? If so, kinda cool

[@TheOutsider1115]

With Connor's music taste, I'm kind of shocked they haven't mentioned Death Grips for him to listen to.

[@tamikash]

I'm like Joey, I listen to the lyrics mostly. And sometimes I resonate with it and it makes me cry. Daft punk is kool tho.

[@geminidawn7315]

What is the meaning of the Vapours Turning Japanese? "[The Vapors] explained that it is a love song about someone who lost their girlfriend and was going slowly crazy. Lead singer Dave Fenton said: 'Turning Japanese is all the clichés about angst and youth and turning into something you didn't expect to.

[@johannesmayer3059]

I just learned the right lyrics of smooth criminal :)

[@xspeczy4564]

I'd argue lyrics are important. How else am I supposed to search for a song? Type in the search bar "What's the song that goes like Da da daaaa da, da da da-da da-da da dadadada" ???

[@PharaohDom]

Damn, this was the DEAD LAST place I ever expected to see Kendrick discussed.

[@YightLagami]

It depends honestly. Japanese songs I can disassociate with how good the lyrics are so they don’t necessarily matter to me. I think in songs where I can understand the lyrics, I want them to at least be decent.(no Cringe or weird phrases)

[@aaravv3938]

JUST WAIT TILL YOU HEAR UNDERGROUND BUDDY

[@SoundsOfTheWild3]

Depends on the artist. Some are really good at it and some are really bad at lyrics.

[@redcomn]

Does he listen to enter shikari sorry you're not a winner now?

[@lara_spithfire]

Joey be just like me fr

[@quarksarranged]

Not listening to the lyrics is like watching an anime without audio. Maybe some of the fights or animation will convey a meaning or be spectacular enough to be a W but it will not hit the same. Rengoku vs Akaza would look interesting to most people but with the story, voice acting, music the emotional response is just orders of magnitude higher. Sometimes you need to learn to attune yourself to the style but this is the depth you stand to gain.

[@simiosinople2045]

"trash taste" because you cant get sponsors with a podcast called "shit take"

[@bastionsea2829]

Nature vs nurture

[@Camade14]

I'm so sorry that Joey had to listen to Connor and Garnt yapping nonsense

[@lozano7420]

I thought I was the only one that doesn’t pay attention to the lyrics.

[@DP-mv7ph]

lyrics are not that important to me bcs i listen to a lot of foreign songs anyways to me the most important part is the vocal tone of the singer like for example if your song has a nice beat and good lyrics idgaf bcs if your voice sounds like shit to me i cant listen to it anyways and thats my main problem with the singer björk like i love her beats and i love the weird visuals but every time she starts to sing i have to turn off the song bcs i cant stand her voice at all but for the singer Sade i love her voice so much and thankfully she has good lyrics and good beats too but even if the lyrics were bad i would still listen to her bcs i love her voice

[@ShadowEclipex]

I am very similar to Connor and Garnt when it comes to music. I rarely understand lyrics the first few times listening to a song. I am partially surprised that they didn't bring up the thing were you come up with a whole mental music video while listening to a song. XD

[@shalimj]

Nah man I’m such a poetry guy and art guy I love drawing and I think that translates lyrically and sonically, it hits me in a much deeper level that’s why I LOOOVE Kendrick Lamar’s to pimp a butterfly because despite being lyrically dense and “woke” it still is very sonically pleasing and even Mr morale and the big steppers, but not even that I still remember crying to the Black Swan Art film from BTS and how the dancer moved and the violins idk man just hits me

[@shalimj]

Yap aside I agree with Joey

[@g100-w6j]

Kendrick and BTS black swan ohhhhh you're so REAL

[@bex6638]

I'm the Joey of my friend group in terms of taste in music except, I'm glad I don't have a podcast because when discussing it comes across as pretentious. 🤷

[@viktorbryce951]

Here is the distinction, singing or lyrics is just that Singing. Music is on instruments thusly why they are called "Musical Instruments". When listening to quote Music it should just be instrumental with just the Musical Instruments. When you listen to Singing that too should just be singing of lyrics. Song is the conjunction of the two being combined. That's my view and break down of it. Because I can like the Singing or vocal/lyric aspect but dislike the musical instruments entirely or vice versa. And then you've the songs that accomplish both and those are just unforgettable.

[@Wolfedge75]

IIRC there's a subgenre of Japanese music called _denpa_ songs, with deliberately nonsensical lyrics and strangely catchy music. So yeah, that's purely *_beeps n' boops._*

[@namanjain9672]

Joey's humble brag.

[@gidehabtay]

Always cringe

[@jaripruim]

"Jujutsu kaisen is mid" sure Joey just pretend that you actually watched it my guy

[@Ryan38475]

its music not a book :|

[@TLMHaru]

Most music with lyrics is ass because most lyrics are complaining about basic life events.

[@quarksarranged]

Joey is so based for the To Pimp a Butterfly take.

[@Jepze158]

I don't why Garnt even tried to act like he listens to rap when it is pretty obvious he doesn't.

[@quarksarranged]

@@Jepze158 a lot of people listen but don’t really *listen*. They’re insensitive to the culture and don’t get much meaning from it.

[@dwagserts4etfes]

Hearing garnt and Conner talk about music makes my brain hurt

[@saadmanalam7283]

But they''re right too. It's just all beeps and boops innit?

[@dwagserts4etfes]

@@saadmanalam7283 maybe it’s just cus I grew up listening to exclusively rap music but the idea that they don’t even pay attention to the lyrics is weird as shit to me

[@aokyoutsuki7744]

​@@dwagserts4etfesas a game ost listener lyrics feels like a an untapped white noise that only registers every now and then

[@gnt163]

reminder that Garnt was in a band

[@elmatador2139]

​@@saadmanalam7283It's communication, even outside the lyrics the music is trying to convey something and saying it is just beeps and boops is like saying that talking is just making noise, when it is really making noise with the intention of conveying something to you. It can't "just" be noise otherwise it isn't talking or isn't music.

[@tomhubbard8510]

Connor: Music is just beeps and boops. Pink Floyd: And disciplinary remains mercifully Yes and um, I'm with you Derek, this star nonsense Yes, yes Now which is it? I am sure of it So, so you think you can tell Heaven from hell? Blue skies from pain? Can you tell a green field From a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil? Do you think you can tell? Did they get you to trade Your heroes for ghosts? Hot ashes for trees? Hot air for a cool breeze? Cold comfort for change? Did you exchange A walk-on part in the war For a lead role in a cage? How I wish, how I wish you were here We're just two lost souls Swimming in a fish bowl Year after year Running over the same old ground What have we found? The same old fears Wish you were here

[@acraze2287]

I agree with Joey, but he just repeated the exact same point like 50 times in a row

[@archangelarielle262]

I just like Elliott Smith because I want to heck myself.

[@LargeOhioSon]

it is such a dumb philistine take to think that lyric need to "have meaning". Yeah, no, the human voice can't just be an instrument. A drum is allowed to keep a consistent beat to maintain a rhythm, but if you get the same effect by just repeating the same phrase over and over then those are just "pointless lyrics."

[@morpheus2615]

I am with Conner on this one, i too am Monkey brained and music is just beep and bloops thats why i love EDM so much, doesnt matter if its hardstyle where they use really clear anime quote or techno where they say some random/kinky shit.

[@tomhubbard8510]

Connor: Music is just beeps and boops. The music: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJvbf6Gnich7nsksi=VjfyQ8kNTPE7FrHy

[@traplandpewb]

Calm luh

[@darkangel7589]

Does anyone else have a music taste that’s all over the damn place??

[@Draco9052]

Joey is so insecure with himself, he has to be the centre of attention in every scenario. If he isn’t different from the popular opinion, then he immediately has a migraine 😂

[@EmptyHand49]

Nah Joey is actually the least insecure of the three. Cool profile pic tho

[@blurb9319]

He’s literally taking the role of the sensible one here, wdym

[@elmatador2139]

He is the most passionate about music, so what? Why are you making a big deal out of it. They were asked to talk about music and clearly Connor isn't passionate and Garnt is a little passionate so Joey did most of the talking.

[@Jepze158]

@@EmptyHand49No need to defend yourself, Joey.

[@sidp5381]

Oh, I guess the Brits have a similar sense of taste