John Danaher talk Philosophy of BJJ and About Travis Stevens

[@Sr.D]

I just practice both, and i can't recommend enough to everyone to do it, if you want to be well rounded practice 70% jj and 30% judo or vice versa if you prefer tachi waza, judo and bjj are meant to be together, ignore all the vs crap and embrace Kano's vision.

[@Zobokolobozo]

I would say 50% wrestling and 50% no gi jiujitsu for street defense/mma. You wanna be the best at jiu jitsu the sport. 100% gi practice is probably the way to go.

[@rhidiandavies1991]

The amount you should do of each depends on the club you train at. With my judo club we probably train 80% throws and 20% ground work during normal training and then do pretty much 50/50 on friday's randori session i.e. 4 minute rounds of tachi waza, followed by ne waza, followed by tachi waza continuing to ne waza after a throw, and we tend to drill ne waza after too. So I just do a bjj session maybe once a week or even every fortnight to get some fresh ideas for training. But yeah I agree that everyone should at least try both because, chances are, if you like one you'll like the other. If there were more hours in the week I'd do more bjj but between judo, fitness, and strength training it's hard to make time for everything as it is.

[@treroney4720]

Don't forget wrestling if a gym is close to you

[@Trevor4tb]

Wonderful

[@alLEDP]

@@SereneJudo Well said.

[@Swaze742]

John Danaher is the #1 philosopher of grappling. I train at 10th Planet Jiu-jitsu and now im inspired by Stevens and Danaher to train judo and BJJ.

[@nicomedina2379]

Travis, one day we will meet. Im a judo and jiujitsu black belt. I compete high level jiujitsu and do some judo at a good level in Spain. So you're a big inspiration. Hope this words encourage you keep going like always. Thanks for all!!

[@anarchic_ramblings]

Other well rounded guys to check out are Dave and Dan Camarillo, Koji Komuro and Flavio Canto.

[@fredsamuels6407]

That gorilla jiu-jitsu!!! Fuck yeah Dave's amazing.

[@jacobchamblee8592]

2016 Olympic Silver Medalist Travis Stevens!

[@g8eo3]

Bro...I think I can just watch Travis roll all day. I love the techniques he uses. It's like really seeing the art in full display. Bravo

[@Algebrodadio]

I'd like to hear some comments about the IJF's ban on judoka competing in non-judo grappling. How does that affect Travis and other grapplers who may want to cross train?

[@FormidableOne]

Grugknuckle - This reply is late as hell, but Stevens talks about how he used to send letters to the IJF to compete in BJJ and they ignored every single one so he stopped trying.

[@TravisStevensgrappling]

I think it was the right thing to do for the IJF as an organization.

[@XieTianXieDi888]

Well, that got real very quick!

[@roryvanderleeden7675]

@@TravisStevensgrappling from a self preservation of the IJF organisation perspective, from a preservation of the sport itself perspective or from an it's the best for keeping the purity of judo perspective?

[@roryvanderleeden7675]

@@TravisStevensgrappling not arguing just curious.

[@askmagnus1]

How does everyone forget Dave Camarillo? He was writing books about cross training the 2 arts years ago and won in both sports a long time ago.

[@xelarrexelarre979]

🙌

[@ludoka58leo]

So true...

[@thuglincoln7699]

I trained with Travis for a year or so at Jason Morris' school when I was a brown belt, like 10 years ago almost. He's no joke man. I rarely did randori with him, but i remember one time there were like no people at the club that day for some reason and I think he'd been minorly injured at like the German Open or something, so he was there, and i was, and like nobody else. Man I couldn't even grab onto him properly - it felt like drowning in the ocean.

[@davidmichael6913]

I would support a Mixed Grappling Arts Association that promoted matches between Mixed grappling artists. I'd love to see grapplers from different arts backgrounds compete against each other without being constrained by purists laws and rules but to allow all grappling arts moves allowed. Submissions only, and no strikes. A UFC only for the grappling arts. I think it would be a big money maker with huge prizes for the contestants. The audience is already there just waiting.

[@belikeh20]

David Michael Quintet is what you want to watch & promoted by UFC.

[@bluurgh]

Travis, can we see the move at 3.20 with sound?

[@MrBluemanworld]

Now I respect Travis Stevens. To be so hard-working and to be be so devoted, automatically demands respect.

[@Yupppi]

It was very well said about piece of the puzzle. People often want to learn the last step of the process, no matter what the subject, like getting out of a hold or say have a degree in something, and completely ignoring all the steps that lead to that point. Like why are you in the hold in the first place? There's multiple steps that lead to that point that you should know how to avoid and the last hope is trying to get out of it instead of preventing it. And like with a school degree the paper doesn't mean a thing, but all the years of learning before the degree.

[@mattmay9601]

I am an old judo guy who is doing bjj now. Trying to get bjj guys to stand up is like trying to herd cats. If I want to clear a room I just say "Anybody up for doing some judo?" And it is not like I am Teddy Riner or Travis Stevens. I can't even get them to do drills or even ukemi. I have given up. BJJ is just this weird sport where people get unbelievably good at fighting off their backs with their legs wide open or wrapped around another man. The only martial art not to focus on balance. They may do a takedown every 6 months or so but it is never practiced regularly so nobody gets any good at them. I know there are world champion BJJ guys who can wrestle but I do not care about them. I think blue belts are being poorly served. They should be taught both ground and standing grappling but everybody stays in their "comfort zone." And apparently, for many, that is on their buts.

[@uncircumcisedcircus]

When I tell BJJ guys this they just say "learn to pass the guard better" and that is sort of the end of the conversation. Then I tell them to start winning world titles in MMA and i might listen to them.

[@faizmahd8069]

I’m a long time practitioner of BJJ and I also do judo and I will say the same thing about Judo when it comes to ground work. They are almost completely clueless on how to effectively and efficiently control and submit an opponent on the ground. Of course there will always be Judokas who are good at Newaza just like there’ll be BJJ practitioners who’ll be good at take downs but on average, they appear not to be. Also, I think another reason why a lot of BJJ clubs don’t practise stand-up is because of lack of space and more possibility of injury. Most BJJ practitioners are hobbyists and they train 2 to 3 times a week, so in their mind why waste time doing standup when they could just simply work their ground game. To conclude, I 100% agree that on average BJJ guys should have good take downs but I just don’t see it happening anytime soon.

[@venik88]

A yoko is kind of like a guard pull, so he was saying he doesn't want to become a guard puller in judo, or a sacrifice thrower.

[@tomwalker389]

Wrestle all the way through school. Start Judo young. Save Jiu-Jitsu for you 20's.

[@nyuzoo]

go take your meds schizo

[@davidcabreramartinez4892]

Shut up chino

[@J3unG]

Uh...no...you got it backwards and start judo late teens while your fucking body can take it. You WILL go back to ju-jitsu when you are older (notice the spelling, NOT that bullshit BJJ garbage).

[@bradley617]

Tell that to my buddies that wrestled…. And major neck problems and can’t do bjj.

[@davidverdugo6266]

Totally agree, judo is a young mans game. Its very tough on the body and takes alot of coordination that is difficult for adults to learn. Kids should start judo at 4 or 5 yrs old just 2 times a week and then wrestle 2times a week. The other days just do basic athletic stuff, playing tag, jungle gym, hiking etc.

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

I get where John is coming from, but after re-listening to Travis's episode of The Lex Fridman Podcast and also listening to both episodes of that podcast with his Sensei, Jimmy Pedro on and hearing him talk about Travis, I wouldn't count on a lot of people like Travis coming around any time soon. He's an unusual cat. His mind is a 💎.

[@uncircumcisedcircus]

The elephant in the room is high level judo is hard to compete at yet alone win, if you're good enough to medal in the Olympics in it then you can compete in ADCC easily.

[@danielmeyers550]

Everyone is different and has their own approach I went and started wrestling with a high school wrestling team

[@foxybrown2]

Good decision i was thinking the same thing.

[@irish_failed_guitarist]

excellent grappling philosophy and all-encompassing.

[@odeonhealingfrequencies2743]

spot on analysis. I train with some high level bjj guys that have below high school wrestling standing abilities.

[@FR-ty5vn]

What an amazing tribute by a true genius - that wristlock Travis got i learned from his app and have been catching people with even inside their own guard.

[@TravisStevensgrappling]

I’m glad your getting those wrist locks

[@FR-ty5vn]

Travis Stevens thanks 🙏 - the more i watch of your stuff - the more I appreciate your level...

[@reyg7028]

Whet Travis was saying was he doesn't want bad thorws in Judo to be rewarded .In BJJ you get awarded two points for a takedown that in Judo would be considered a Yuko (advantage ) .The next highest is Wazzari (half score) and finally Ippon (full score/win)).What separates a Wazzari from an Ippon is that the Uke (one who thrownn ) lands with greater force . In Judo the slam wins ,as opposed to BJJ where it is a disqualification . Rey G. 4th Dan Judo & Shodan Reno Gracie BJJ

[@anarchic_ramblings]

waza-ari :P

[@internetenjoyer1044]

yuko no longer exists

[@jedijudoka]

To add to your comment, ippon is landing flat on the back, landing on the side awards waza ari

[@jimmynich4791]

@@jedijudoka Been a while since I've done Judo but I think you're not allowed to just pick up and slam either. I think you can only grab the legs standing as a defence as well?

[@jedijudoka]

Jimmy Nich slamming as in dake age is illegal, but from belly down, picking up and dropping on the back, idk. In today’s rules, you may only touch the legs when both players are engaged in ne waza. Even grazing the pant leg with your hand while either player is standing results in shido.

[@AertPietersz]

Thanks for posting this. You're a phenomenal grappler.

[@tommyurso1811]

one of the best videos and interviews i've seen

[@kallepikku4991]

The only problem with Travis is that he's too modest. People don't know him coz his not making a big fuss about himself. You need wordy guys like Danaher and Joe Rogan to talk on his behalf.

[@judotherapy9810]

Shorai training with Dan Camarillo @ Fresno judo October 1st 2022!

[@bilalkhares9337]

Could this 'over-speclialisation' lead to the issues with other martial arts effecting bjj in the same way?

[@hipqban169]

There was a time when jiujitsu was king bc nobody knew about it...now the world has caught up. Judo and wrestling are essential to complement Bjj and make a proper grappler out of you. I started Bjj first and now I’m as excited to practice judo and wrestling. A bit of Muay Thai also goes a long way

[@martialartsaddict9966]

I did it the other way around. I started doing Judo first, then went into BJJ. I'd love to get back into Judo again, as it would definitely help with my BJJ stand up! Are you interested in the philosophical side of Judo? If you are, I've made a video about Judo Philosophy on my channel. Please check it out and let me know what you think 🙏🏾

[@devriestown]

Boxing as well

[@darkphantom454]

Congratulations! Way to go!

[@PimpDaddy1508]

Your fight against Ole Bischof ist still legendary in Germany 😄

[@TravisStevensgrappling]

It was a great match

[@davidtice4972]

I wrestled and did years of Judo and then trained in Brazilian jiu-jitsu which I thought was great because it was all on the ground.

[@alexeyepifanov2684]

Trevis is an acting legend of Judo

[@Rollsgracie4]

And some of his boxers and kick boxers maybe they just want to learn how to get out of triangles and I am locks for the street I don’t know high-level or a super high-level anyway but I get his point but I always thought he said to learn escapes first that’s how you break the fear and that’s how you finish people by learning all the escapes for the first year makes a lot of sense

[@martialartsaddict9966]

Yeah, I think that does make a lot of sense. I took that path. However, 8 years down the line, I'm still trying to escape 😂!!! Are you interested in Judo philosophy? I've made a video about Judo Philosophy on my channel. Please check it out and let me know what you think 🙏🏾

[@HugeStirz]

Travis vs khabib would be a great scrap!

[@chadwhite1198]

Please show the move at the 3:20 mark!! BTW, this is a great video. Thank you for posting it!

[@jpeete]

That move at 3:25. Would like to see it with sound.

[@matiasorfen]

great video, thank you

[@isaiaharevalo]

So lucky my son fell into all 3 starting at the age of 5 to 7. Last year won a UIL high school state championship as a freshman and looking for 3 more. As kid ranked #1 nationally by USA judo for a couple of years. National Judo champion..and countless bjj tournament. We will see what the world has in store after he goes to a D1 Wrestling college

[@davidtice4972]

I have the 4 DVD set by Travis Stevens Critical Concepts for BJJ.

[@TravisStevensgrappling]

Thanks for all the support!

[@JKT6]

What is the guard pass at 13:13. Thank you! ps great video, such an inspiration!

[@retardno002]

+JahanT It's a shortcut to getting caught in a leglock, I wouldn't recommend it. He was safe because he had much weight on his right leg and his balance is outstanding but unless your name is Travis Stevens, that's not a guard pass.

[@eternalelitist1936]

JahanT looks like a variation of the São Paulo pass

[@green4tobase]

Your link is spelled wrong mate! Keep working hard brother,love ya stuff.

[@Shikami85]

My husband is 36, wants to try judo and bjj, and now seeing Travis dealing with so many injuries, I’m scared of him practicing. Are these kind of injuries inevitable?

[@louisbutler1584]

Your husband won’t be training anywhere close like an Olympian level judoka like Travis and I doubt he would want to, he’ll be fine, maybe a few broken fingers here and there

[@tommyrq180]

Yes. If he’s serious about learning the sport. Yes.

[@larryzach7880]

You have to find a Judo club that understands the limitations and the extremely steep learning curve that accompanies starting later in life. If your husband is in top physical condition or at least has a natural functional athleticism, he will be fine; he just needs to be careful. If he approaches this as a lifetime study and realizes he's not training for the Olympics, but I know several guys who started in their 30s and were always careful to leave a gallon or two in the tank during their first few years of training. As they learned and advanced, they were able to turn up the throttle safely.

[@armelchiza3771]

Guys, what do you call the crazy roll at 0:32 ? Thanks in advance.

[@Fabyfakid]

It's hard to tell because of the camera angle but it looks to me like a yoko guruma or a similar sacrifice technique.

[@entrenamientoyfitness]

Hi! Would I watch the newaza move with sound?

[@jimmyalderson1639]

Idk if i agree that the throwing ability has increased since the 1950s For most of the world sure, but we don't have many Yamashitas, Saitos, Kimuras or Mifune's anymore

[@HungGarEarthBender]

Can you show the move at 12:21?

[@chirodr98]

Would love to see that turn over technique in detail.

[@roarblast7332]

This is why freestyle judo is so interesting me. Or even kosen judo. It rewards a variety of grappling skills. Penning, throwing, and ground work. I could see that being very useful for mma.

[@mh.1.]

Exactly my thought. It could be very effective in the future if marketed well due to how well rounded it is. But hey, that’s just my personal opinion

[@oscararielresto3388]

Show the technique with sound!!

[@charlesprice6973]

Seems judo tournaments dont want any Associations with bjj moves. It wants to remain separate. I dont see that remaining as time goes by. There will be in time if we remian a hybrid or a combining of the both. Because If a league starts up that allows both witb proper points and is backed by a majority of ppl. Then the others will fall behind. Money follows ppls interests . Idk i can enjoy both. And a hybrid would be a welcome

[@breathingbeing]

Isn't Sambo a complete system then? I understand the need of incorporating stand up but why is Judo any better than say Greco or Freestyle wrestling? And isn't GSP a complete grappler without Judo?

[@GrimKage]

imagine being a master of bjj, nogi, judo and wrestling

[@fredsamuels6407]

Lol that inverted triangle Kimura!!!!

[@victorbenedicto8930]

Awesome fight Stevens. I'd have raised my flag for Stevens. ( retired ref)

[@ygustavo]

its actually NAGE waza and NE-Waza . Tachi waza +Sutemi waza = NAGE waza

[@lmjr0419]

show the move, travis....you're a beast!

[@PierceSunderseatsRAMEN]

I could understand where the sentiment comes from that it could be unwanted to have one discipline overlap into the other. The separate disciplines have come to be naturally and it would be absurd to try and reamalgamate them in the practical definition. We are in a new age where the ancient is recognized and the modern is embraced. An individual can come to understand each concept individually and organize the knowledge in their own brain in order to come to their own understanding. To have a fighter that grapples two different disciplines is the same as having a grappler of one discipline that has any other discipline like Kung Fu for example that takes their.... fuck. You guys get it. End.

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

The development in Jiu-Jitsu has only come because there aren't strikes. They don't train that way anymore. Its not REAL progress. Its progress in the vacuum of sport BJJ under a very specific set of rules. It funny how Johns idea of the future "well rounded" grappler is what we used to call basic Jiu-Jitsu 20 years ago. "Progress" LMAO A typical Jiu-Jitsu class 20-30 years ago would be Judo throws, double and single leg takedowns and 1-2 punch/kick combinations along with striking and defending strikes on the ground and standing. These days a typical BJJ class starts in inverted guard or ashi garami. It funny to hear John say EXACTLY what I've been saying for the last 15 years.

[@tomwalker389]

Is Kayla fighting Papa Smurf?

[@dp1569]

This video should be called "John Danaher talks about some guy named Travis".

[@김천재-c9j]

I train 1 day Judo and 4 days BJJ a week. Bjj I can train everyday but Judo can't. Judo is tough sports.

[@TravisStevensgrappling]

Yes it is.

[@김천재-c9j]

@@TravisStevensgrappling wow are u Real Travis? I am your fan!!!👍👍👍

[@CarlosIrigoitia]

Why is the guy in 3:50 a white belt though?

[@TravisStevensgrappling]

Only been doing judo a few months

[@bono894]

I think I'll just casually go to Europe for a judo seminar this weekend.

[@TravisStevensgrappling]

I'm not sure I understand what that means?

[@bono894]

@@TravisStevensgrappling Lol. I was just being a smart ass. Danaher mentioned about your work ethic that you often will pick up and go to another country on the weekend for a seminar or tournament. I actually really admire that. I wish I had that kind of dedication.

[@Rollsgracie4]

John believes you should learn escapes first he’s kind of contradicting himself a little here but that’s OK perhaps perhaps

[@uncircumcisedcircus]

Izzy sort of proved he was wrong, and im not an izzy fan.

[@performancecartel]

I agree with him. If it's an only BJJ situation and you can eliminate any threat of a submission because of your escapes or just defense in general then the likelihood drastically increases that the opponent will fall into the 1 or 2 submissions you are decent at. It's just a time thing. It's more exhausting to be on the attack then to have efficient escapes and catch someone on a mistake by them

[@geniusiknowit]

Bench press technique isn't good. Fix it and you'll be able to add more weight to the bar instantly.

[@BJJBushido]

Lol bench press is probably 1 of the 100s of different exercises he goes through weekly. His job is to be an excellent grappler, not an excellent crossfitter.

[@geniusiknowit]

+BJJBushido Why do the exercise at all then, if he's just going to do it poorly? A few minor tweaks, and he'll be able to exercise with more weight, which will help him get stronger, and he'll also save a lot of unnecessary wear and tear on his shoulders.

[@TravisStevensgrappling]

+Lobo Rojo I would l like to hear why you think it's not good. I work out of one of the top rated gyms in the united states who have crafted a lifting routine that has taken me from a national level play to fighting for Olympic Medals

[@geniusiknowit]

+Travis Stevens I definitely wasn't critiquing your entire regimen. On the bench, it looks like your elbows start off fine, but quickly flare way out, butt comes off the bench (hard to tell, might just be clenching your glutes), feet might be a little too far forward (hard to tell with the camera angle) and you even bounce the bar off your chest. The way your shoulders move at the very end of the rep leads me to believe you're not keeping your scapulae retracted. Also at the end of the rep, the barbell appears to be over your face instead of your chest (again, might just be the camera angle, but based on the bar's shadow, lateral path, and how close you already are to the rack before you start to rack it, probably not). It didn't look bad bringing the bar down for the first rep (until the bounce). Maybe it was your last two reps of the day and you were tired. If so, not that big of a deal, it's normal for form to degrade a bit by the end of the workout.

[@scottphillipsau]

Travis, I'm not being critical or disrespectful in any way, and congratulations on your medal - you are a true hero :-) There is nothing wrong with your lifting routine. That being said I'm a powerlifter (and a shitty BJJ student) holding multiple national records and I bench 484lb weighing under 100kg. LoboRojo is correct, small technique modifications could add a LOT to your bench immediately, and more importantly reduce the strain on your shoulders and rotator cuffs, reducing the potential for injuries. There is more than I can really put in a youtube comment but you would really benefit from a coaching session with a high level powerlifter. That being said, if you are INCREASING the weights (or amount of reps) you can lift every session, then don't change. My experience is that average technique reaches a plateau quite quickly, and it becomes very difficult to put even 10kg of improvement on. Your delts and tris are small muscles and when you use them for too much of the lift it puts an upper ceiling on your potential. Small things that most people wouldn't notice, but you are an elite athlete so it might benefit you. A few points. 1) Grip the bar HARD, like your life depended on it, with your wrists straight up as opposed to using the palms like a platform for the bar. When your wrists are tilted over its almost like a partial americana, makes you very weak in a certain range of motion. 2) Feet need to be further back and knees need to be constantly pushing apart. This creates a stable base no different than stable base in fighting. It should feel like your feet are connected with your traps, pressing into the bar. 3) Before each rep reset by pulling your shoulders back as hard as you can, this saves a few inches of travel each rep, which adds up. 4) When you lift off before the first rep imagine you are squeezing a squash ball between your shoulder blades and push your chest up as high as it will go. Take a deep breath with your core locked, and take the time to feel the ground under your feet pushing your back into the bench, which creates the most stable platform for your to put kinetic energy in a single plane of motion. 5) Your ass is lifting off the bench, creating a a weird range of motion. Think about the most EFFICIENT bench press you could imagine. It would be putting the finite amount of kinetic energy you can output through a SINGLE plane of motion. Straight up, straight down, like you are on rails.

[@slick222]

The butt scoot, 50/50 era killed BJJs effectiveness in fighting. People have been saying this the whole time. "Old school" BJJ has good takedowns and prizes combative positions.

[@raphaelgracia551]

Sound is awful. Isn't there a better version?

[@robbryden4982]

Where is this gym based does anyone know

[@TravisStevensgrappling]

Rob Bryden my gym is located near Boston MA

[@robbryden4982]

Along way away from the UK then mate. Same looks like a class gym

[@death4127]

catch wrestlers have both tewaza and newaza . savage grapplers

[@jeremypaulskinner]

Catch wrestling is for hipsters.

[@death4127]

Lol josh.Barnett a hipster??

[@jeremypaulskinner]

jay Yes.

[@death4127]

Catch wrestling will help your jiujitsu a lot man. I should know

[@jeremypaulskinner]

jay It's all grappling.

[@lonesurvivor7921]

Why don't we just merge bjj and judo, around the world and be done with it!

[@anarchic_ramblings]

Why not throw Nascar in there too? Driving is important.

[@railroadtrash09]

I think the problem is the traditionalists over each house. I agree with the nascar guy though.

[@m5a1stuart83]

There is Judo with Kosen Ruleset...

[@tomwalker389]

4:32 I always thought Ole Bischof looked like a constipated version of Greg Kinnear.

[@donbread4895]

Judo is father of BJJ

[@JEFFMAN90]

And Japanese Ju Jutsu is the father of Judo

[@diosantana2659]

vote down came from someone who got leglocked surely

[@sirtrevis]

Something happened. He gained weight, grew a belly, and has not been in the spotlight. ... He get hurt?

[@kristianris976]

He retired from international competition

[@tommyrq180]

Like every elite competitor, he’s always hurt and will always be hurt. But he doesn’t have to make weight anymore-hooray!

[@sirtrevis]

@@tommyrq180 Ah. They were talking like he was going to break into MMA. It did not look like it. I just got got done listening to his interview with Lex. Yeah. He has done his time. Good for him.

[@Pifagorass]

Looks like Travis has lots of injuries...

[@madtrade]

high level grappling and specially judo is god damn brutal

[@DLites151]

Anyone who sits down at the start of a fight deserves to be stomped.

[@ex0ja]

OK then add striking into the mix lol

[@thedesertsux]

Bjj guys wish they could be olympians haha

[@JEFFMAN90]

BJJ guys don't care about the Olympics because it's overrated

[@BlakeAndrewz]

horrible fucking audio

[@2eatspam]

I want sound with the move